Need Help: Ways to market Fiction books on Kindle

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Can anyone give me some super cool tips to get my fiction short stories on kindle to sell?

I have signed up with their KDP and have got only 2 paid sales in a month!

I have zero recognition as an author but I am sure people will like the stories I write....

I have also used up my 5 free promotion days.....

Please help!

Edit: I am ready to spend money advertising... I have full faith in my product!
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  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Hi Mark,

    May I suggest you spend a tiny amount of that on the Warrior Forum Kindle Book Club. Bryan Kumar is a genius and he has put together some awesome material on marketing.

    You can find it here.
    http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ior-style.html

    Another person to look at is Paul Coleman. You can find his site here:
    bookPumper - The Kindle Revolution | HEROES Forum

    Di
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Diana, you beat me to it! I was just about to suggest that subforum to Mark, but I didn't remember what it costs.

    :-Don

    BTW I added a review to Green Superfood Smoothies
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    • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Diana, you beat me to it! I was just about to suggest that subforum to Mark, but I didn't remember what it costs.

      :-Don

      BTW I added a review to Green Superfood Smoothies
      Thanks Don

      Appreciate it.

      I think it still costs $40.00
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        I've been spending odd moments reading "Secrets of Successful Writers" by Darrell Pitt. It's one of those collections of short interviews.

        Pitt interviewed some 50 writers in many different genres, and a common question was 'how can a writer best market himself/herself.'

        The most common answers are things like social media, especially Facebook, author blogs, basically anything you can do to put yourself in front of readers/buyers. In short, the best thing an author with no recognition can do is put themself in situations where they can get some.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

          I've been spending odd moments reading "Secrets of Successful Writers" by Darrell Pitt. It's one of those collections of short interviews.

          Pitt interviewed some 50 writers in many different genres, and a common question was 'how can a writer best market himself/herself.'

          The most common answers are things like social media, especially Facebook, author blogs, basically anything you can do to put yourself in front of readers/buyers. In short, the best thing an author with no recognition can do is put themself in situations where they can get some.
          I know it's usually poor form to quote yourself, but I wanted to add to this in a way that people who already read the first one would see it.

          After posting, I went back and skimmed through the book again. The single most common piece of advice for fiction writers, especially unknown indies, was to keep writing and building a backlist. Some of these folks are now selling thousands of ebooks a day.

          'The best way to market your first book is to write your second. And third. And...'
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          • Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            I know it's usually poor form to quote yourself, but I wanted to add to this in a way that people who already read the first one would see it.

            After posting, I went back and skimmed through the book again. The single most common piece of advice for fiction writers, especially unknown indies, was to keep writing and building a backlist. Some of these folks are now selling thousands of ebooks a day.

            'The best way to market your first book is to write your second. And third. And...'
            Thanks, John - this reflects what I've been reading in a lot of the success stories online (not Amanda Hocking level success, but people who are making $10,000+ per month with their novels).

            As an aside, I'd love to hear thoughts, from you and others, on running an author blog. I do want to just bury myself in book creation, but I think a blog is always a good way to both stay in touch and attract new eyeballs, and it's further writing practice as well.

            But what to blog about? Just your own books? That sounds boring to me...not just for the blogger but for the readers.

            Any ideas?
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          • Profile picture of the author KenJ
            Hi Mark

            I have sent you a PM

            Mingle with other authors. Go to places where they main focus is on Kindle publishing. Be there and make your self known.

            I have recently joined 3 Facebook groups of authors. I have also started following authors specifically on my twitter account.

            This means that when you do a free promo to get reviews you should get more downloads. When you offer free downloads to other authors, there is a chance that they will offer a review swap.

            I know this because I have just done it for one of my books. It's all a mater of gaining some initial traction. Once you have the sales moving you will get momentum which will help you as you publish each book.

            KenJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
    Update on my progress:

    Got my hands on a couple of guides and have started with facebook and good reads to build a base.... my ad budget is currently $30 a a day for facebook... sent in a request to good reads to list me as an author.... lets see where that takes me... will get back in 3 days time to update this.....
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    • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
      Originally Posted by Mark .W. James View Post

      Update on my progress:

      Got my hands on a couple of guides and have started with facebook and good reads to build a base.... my ad budget is currently $30 a a day for facebook... sent in a request to good reads to list me as an author.... lets see where that takes me... will get back in 3 days time to update this.....
      Hi Mark,

      I saved this thread from the WF social marketing sub-forum. This person explains how he gets leads from FB for .01 per lead. I ended-up reading a lot of this guy's threads and posts. Perhaps you can parlay his method into marketing your self and your books.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...-facebook.html

      Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
        Originally Posted by KenThompson View Post

        Hi Mark,

        I saved this thread from the WF social marketing sub-forum. This person explains how he gets leads from FB for .01 per lead. I ended-up reading a lot of this guy's threads and posts. Perhaps you can parlay his method into marketing your self and your books.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/social-m...-facebook.html

        Good luck.

        Hi Ken,
        Thanks for the contribution....I have spent quite a chunk of money behind facebook ads before and I can safely say that some of the stuff Justin mentions is very useful... esp this part
        Pay for impressions.. many people will disagree with me, but they are also paying $0.70 per click while I'm paying under $0.03
        Im running two ads on CPM and one is on auto bidding by facebook...
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  • Originally Posted by Mark .W. James View Post

    Can anyone give me some super cool tips to get my fiction short stories on kindle to sell?

    I have signed up with their KDP and have got only 2 paid sales in a month!

    I have zero recognition as an author but I am sure people will like the stories I write....

    I have also used up my 5 free promotion days.....

    Please help!

    Edit: I am ready to spend money advertising... I have full faith in my product!
    Did you get some downloads on your promo days?

    Originally Posted by Mark .W. James View Post

    Update on my progress:

    Got my hands on a couple of guides and have started with facebook and good reads to build a base.... my ad budget is currently $30 a a day for facebook... sent in a request to good reads to list me as an author.... lets see where that takes me... will get back in 3 days time to update this.....
    Can you recommend any guides for advertising on Facebook. This is something I'm considering for my newly-released novel.

    I second the recommendation on Kumar's Kindle Book Club. I'm also a member and there's some great info there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
      Originally Posted by Superior Content Creation View Post

      Did you get some downloads on your promo days?



      Can you recommend any guides for advertising on Facebook. This is something I'm considering for my newly-released novel.

      I second the recommendation on Kumar's Kindle Book Club. I'm also a member and there's some great info there.
      Absolutely!
      I got somewhere around 100 downloads? but not a single review....
      and i have shown my work to many other writers, they all really like it....

      the best guide, my friend, are the facebook adverts help team.... call them up and ask them what to do.... ask them openly for the most effective solution and for the cheapest solution, they will give you both....
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      • Originally Posted by Mark .W. James View Post

        Absolutely!
        I got somewhere around 100 downloads? but not a single review....
        and i have shown my work to many other writers, they all really like it....

        the best guide, my friend, are the facebook adverts help team.... call them up and ask them what to do.... ask them openly for the most effective solution and for the cheapest solution, they will give you both....
        Are you writing non-fiction or fiction?

        My novel seems to be doing pretty decent. 7 sales in the first three days and now 158 downloads so far with a 2-day giveaway (ends at midnight today). Hopefully that will equal some reviews - I've got two already, though not from free downloaders.

        I am finding it much harder to get reviews than expected though. People have absolutely ranted and raved about my book - quite a few saying it made them cry - but getting them to take the time for a review is haaaaard. One even said Amazon won't "let them do it." LOL

        I think one of the major issues is that the average citizen is FAR more tech-illiterate than we realize. To many, the internet is still a huge mystery.

        Then again, maybe that's just the circles I run in.

        Thanks for your advice on Facebook ads - that makes perfect sense. Do you think it's a good way to promote a novel though?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
          Originally Posted by Superior Content Creation View Post

          Are you writing non-fiction or fiction?

          My novel seems to be doing pretty decent. 7 sales in the first three days and now 158 downloads so far with a 2-day giveaway (ends at midnight today). Hopefully that will equal some reviews - I've got two already, though not from free downloaders.

          I am finding it much harder to get reviews than expected though. People have absolutely ranted and raved about my book - quite a few saying it made them cry - but getting them to take the time for a review is haaaaard. One even said Amazon won't "let them do it." LOL

          I think one of the major issues is that the average citizen is FAR more tech-illiterate than we realize. To many, the internet is still a huge mystery.

          Then again, maybe that's just the circles I run in.

          Thanks for your advice on Facebook ads - that makes perfect sense. Do you think it's a good way to promote a novel though?
          Im writing fiction...

          May I ask how many pages is your book and what is the story?
          Or if you can pass me the link, i will read it and leave a review

          How much are you charging for it?

          I have no idea if facebook ads will work for this because today is the first time im using it for this.... but it makes sense, if im going to make ads which target people who like books from authors similar to me, it should get me a proper fan base....

          lets seee
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          • Originally Posted by Mark .W. James View Post

            Im writing fiction...

            May I ask how many pages is your book and what is the story?
            Or if you can pass me the link, i will read it and leave a review

            How much are you charging for it?

            I have no idea if facebook ads will work for this because today is the first time im using it for this.... but it makes sense, if im going to make ads which target people who like books from authors similar to me, it should get me a proper fan base....

            lets seee
            Hey Mark - here's my novel here if you want to see what I'm working with: Amazon.com: The Smell of Pines: A Long Walk With...Amazon.com: The Smell of Pines: A Long Walk With...
            Sure, a review would be awesome if you like the book.

            I was charging $2.99 before the promo started, and it's about 89,000 words. I actually want to expirement with higher pricing once I've done another redraft. I have a suspicion that, much like freelance writing markets, competing on price is not the way to go, especially given all the trash getting published right now.

            Of course, I don't yet have any evidence yet to back this hypothesis up).

            I like your thoughts on Facebook ads and may look into doing something similar. Let's stay in touch about our results.

            Cheers,
            James
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  • Profile picture of the author jcadrin
    Check out the Kindle Forum! Bryan has great fiction resources in there
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  • Profile picture of the author Tinkerbell
    Mark,

    I have some thoughts. Do you have Skype? If so, my ID is ideafairy. Add me to your contacts and we will talk.

    Write more books is great advice, and so you should, but in the meantime the best thing is to find as many ways as possible to get relevant eyes on your offer.

    Tina
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    • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
      If you only got a few free downloads on your free promo day, you need to rethink your free day strategy.

      Yes writing more books does help with sales but if you are not selling any to begin with you definitely need to rework your promotions.

      For fiction it really helps to should develop a fan base using social media.

      In addition, you can still use keywords as an excellent strategy to promote your book. You just have to gear them towards your fiction genre.

      Once you get a reputation, if you have quality books, your readers will likely share them and want to buy them all and that should get things really rolling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caden
    Did you promote on other websites and tell them about your five free days? You can't just leave it all to Amazon in the beginning. There are plenty of websites online that if you tell them in advance about your free day, you would get lots of downloads, and hopefully more than just two sales afterwards. Also, is your genre of fiction what people are buying? Can you find best sellers in your genre? If you did do that and spread the word on other websites, I can't understand why your fiction books aren't selling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rmipro
    Here are a few resources that were recommended for kindle and physical book promotions by other warriors.

    No, I myself have not used them all (particularly the paid ones) but I was able to use a few of them on my free day promos and got a pretty good number of downloads.

    Here you go:

    1) Website Below Has 80 Sites to Advertise Your Book
    80 sites to advertise your book | James Calbraith

    (Btw, I'm not affiliated with the site above in any way)

    2) Here are some Facebook resources as well:

    https://www.facebook.com/indieexchange
    https://www.facebook.com/winwithebooks
    https://www.facebook.com/ourawesomegang
    http://www.facebook.com/AontheC
    http://www.facebook.com/authormarketingclub
    http://www.facebook.com/BookGoodies
    http://www.facebook.com/ebooksfreefreefree
    http://www.facebook.com/freeebookdeal
    http://www.facebook.com/galleycat
    http://www.facebook.com/iauthor
    http://www.facebook.com/IndieBookLounge
    http://www.facebook.com/kindle
    http://www.facebook.com/kindle
    http://www.facebook.com/KindleFreebies
    http://www.facebook.com/KindleKorner
    http://www.facebook.com/readingkindle
    http://www.facebook.com/TheKindleObsessed
    http://www.facebook.com/groups/341840249197060/


    These should keep you busy, but most importantly hopefully bring the results you're looking for.

    Enjoy!
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  • Profile picture of the author jumshi
    this is a great thread
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    • Profile picture of the author Mormo
      I think is a good website to learn about self publishing:

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