Voracious niche, but no product on clickbank...

I imagine there are lots of niches with no CB product. And people are just as successful and unsuccessful on either Amazon or CB.

Research the niche and its audience. Determine if there's profit potential. One thing to remember is you'll have much more to deal with if you have a CB product. Affiliates and all the attendant responsibilities associated with them.

Hey Chris,

If the niche is large enough / had a decent demand, you should develop a product and get listed on Clickbank

Engage via the Social sphere and start building a following around your product.

As far as Amazon vs Clickbank in profitability that's kind of a loaded question considering there are variables.

Amazon only pays out 4-7 % and you've got to get your website in front of eyeballs and preferably hone in on higher ticket items for larger commissions.

Clickbank you make 100% of the profit or 50%, 40% etc depending on your affiliate program (which you should set up)...but the same principle applies..you've got to have targeted traffic.

There are tons of people making money with Amazon or both..(myself included) ...depending on the niche your speaking about I would strong consider developing a product / sales funnel, get it listed and start working on building awareness.

get it going, then focus on some Amazon sites as the secondary...it's all a matter of opinion and what you're comfortable with.

To your success
Sean

Hi Chris, are you asking "Should I produce a product and sell it on ClickBank because there isn't one there for the affiliates who want to promote something in the niche?" (Could be a very good idea, if there's a market for one, and if there are affiliates in the niche!). Or "Where should I look for a product that I can promote as an affiliate, since there isn't one on ClickBank?"

From the affiliate perspective, the commissions are typically about a tenth of the percentage they are on ClickBank (sometimes less), but the conversion-rates are typically far higher.

They're not really directly comparable, though. They're similar "business models" in some way (in that it's all affiliate marketing - at least, if you're asking as a potential affiliate!), but very different, too. Becoming an affiliate on Amazon to sell one specific product, with no other interests of your own in the niche, might be questionable, though, just because the individual commissions are so small. (I'm guessing that you're thinking of "information products", here, because you're asking in a sort of comparison-with-ClickBank context?).

If there is a demand for this niche and you can't find any products, I would encourage you to create the product yourself and then start recruiting affiliates to sell it for you.

Perhaps you are not looking for the product the right way. There are products that have numerous applications.

On the other hand, be careful with your impression that it is a voracious niche. Perhaps there are many online users looking for this topic online, but they are only looking for free information without having any buying intention.

If you cannot easily find products for this niche, perhaps this is because this is a niche without buyers.

You should make a marketing research. I read very interesting information about the importance of discovering what people are buying online and why. Many researches revealed that even though a seller had the intention to sell certain products to certain audience, the real buyers were not the ones the seller was expecting to attract.

The seller had to change his/her marketing messages and give answers to those who were looking for them, instead of trying to attract the wrong audience (the one that ‘should’ care about these products).

There are hundreds if not thousands of places you go find affiliate products. Click bank is just one of many you can look through.

Here are a list of 20 real quick....

1. CX Digital Media
2. Google
3. Affiliate Bot
4. Dark Blue
5. Click 2Sell
6. Clickbooth
7. Firelead
8. Logical Media
9. Avant Link
10. Executive Service Corp
11. Expedia Affiliate Network
12. Media Trust
13. Link Trust
14. Adknowledge Affiliate
15. Link Share
16. Clickbank
17. Commission Junction
18. ClixGalore
19. Matomy Market
20. Motive Interactive

If you keep having trouble -- just type into Google your niche + affiliate program. There will more then likely be hundreds of pages showing up.

Just go to Odigger.com and search. It's a database of many affiliate networks.

I'm in a niche in which there are no CB products and few physical products.
However, I've monetized very well by entering into referral deals with relevant merchants in the industry. It takes a bit of setting up such as unique landing pages for tracking and other non-traditional tracking methods, but it's worked really well.

Plus no affiliate competition.

Put up your own. But be careful if there isn't competition, it's either untapped, or it's like that for a reason. Niche could be a ghost town, but you won't know until you test it.

The thing about untapped niches is that once you have any kind of success with it, other marketers will copy your model and profit from it. Therefore, you should make your product as good as possible as early as possible.

Begin by asking yourself WHY there is not a product in this niche
on Clickbank. Sometimes the reason will soon become obvious.
Give this question to your subconscious mind... and then focus
on other things.

Look at what products others in that niche ARE finding affiliate
products and ask why there are on the platform that they are
on.

Begin by looking at what "appears to be" already working for
others.

Willie

You could also check ejunkie for digital products to promote.

If it is a niche with tangible products you could promote, you could check Commission Junction, ShareaSale, Pepperjam, and Linkshare.

Also, in the past when I have had trouble trying to figure out what to promote in a niche, I have realized that sometimes I am think too narrow and literal about what a niche might need or be interested in. A simple example of this might be a new mom trying to lose weight after pregnancy. Of course you want to mainly focus on weight loss products. But she would likely also be interested in beauty products (such as anti aging creams, hair shampoos, make-up, etc.), since overall she is concerned with the way she looks. Just a thought ;o)

HTH!

you can check jvzoo. I'd do research and see what the demand would be for the niche first then try to find a product.

As other people have said work out why there are no products. It's very unlikely that if this is a real niche with real problems there would be no products.

Maybe CB isn't suited to the niche.
Check Amazon (it will take you 2 minutes to check, stop being lazy).
Check Google (niche + affiliate program)
Check Commission Junction.

Stop and think if there's another related product which will suit, for example say your niche was weight loss for teenage girls who wanted to lose weight for prom (I saw this example somewhere recently) then you don't need to find a product that caters specifically for teenage girls who are going to prom BUT a general weight loss product would be fine.

If there's no products anywhere then stop and think why. Usually after a bit of thinking you'll figure out why there's none. Maybe the niche isn't as you think it is.

Yep there are new niches being created all the time and a ton of obscure healthy issues (I can name you a few right now) but the problem is if no one has solved the problem or created a cure what are you going to sell to them?

Are you going to make a bullshit cure up to sell to people? Not for me thanks.

Some tips when I come up with ideas that need validation:

1. Look on Amazon to see if there are physical and/or Kindle books selling - take a look at salels rank, comments for signs of recent life
2. Make sure you dig into some keywords that would describe your niche - it may be that you are searching CB under a certain keyword that is better described by another (Ex. Anxiety will not bring you as many returns as Panic Attacks)
3. Search Google for YOUR KEYWORDS + DVD, +Workshop, +Ebook, +Guidebook, +Seminar, +Manual, + Course, etc... each of these will return a different product type and more information on what the potential is in the niche you are investigating
4. Take a look at article directories like Ezine Articles and search for article titles to get a feel for how often they are published and searched
5. Search also Commission Junction, Ebook Junkie, Paydotcom, Click2sell, etc... as there are many other affiliate programs that can help give you a sense for what is selling. As one example, I was researching a topic for an ebook idea I had nearly two years ago, after doing a couple hourse research it became clear to me there was a much bigger opportunitiy around a physical product category in that particular niche which I built an e-commerce site around - even though I am 75%+ focused on information products.
6. Once you have a sense that the niche potential does exist, but is underserved, I would setup a blog or content site and start to pull in traffic, build an initial list and test some ideas (either affiliate products or my own intro products, reports, video series, etc...) before jumping in big-time.

Jeff

CB is not the only affiliate site. It is probably one of the best known for digital products. There are many others and also many private affiliate programs.
No product on clickbank could be a good thing or a bad thing.. How many exact match searches does it get per month? You could be on to a winner or you could spend a bit of time for nothing.
What I would do is a quick ppc campaign to see if there is demand. You could link this to a survey monkey survey and see what people who click on you ad are looking for.Maybe ask them to tell you their most burning question about the subject.
This is not a new concept. You could then develop a product around those questions people have submitted to you.
For Pay per click I like Bing Ads, Facebook, 7Search, and Looksmart.
Good luck
Graeme