Quick Question About Domain Names

by matthewd 17 replies
I found a domain I want to buy for a new project, but the ".com" is taken. This has brought a few questions to my mind.

Are the other options worth it such as .net or .org?

And, not counting backlinks or on site SEO or anything, JUST the domain name, is the same domain w/ hyphens in between the words just as relevant in Google as the one w/o hyphens? For example: not counting anything else would "warrior-forum.com" be as powerful as "warriorforum.com" when someone searched "warrior forum"
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  • Profile picture of the author mistyone
    Hi Matthewd

    I too, am interested to know the answer to that. I will subscribe to your thread to read the answers, with interest

    Cheers
    Misty
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
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    • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
      I would think if your domain name was keyword relevant, it would matter. There is some speculation that including a hyphen in multiple word domain names is better for SEO, but somehow I doubt that it is true. Probably some non-sense rumor the registrars started spreading.

      The TLD matters in .com vs anything else. If you type in a search phrase with no spaces in the URL bar the first thing most browsers will do is look for a .com. Then a .net and then a .org. I don't know how it proceeds from there.

      Also if you type in domain.com and domain.com is not found it will try .net and .org. Again I don't know how it proceeds after that. .COM is always better, with the exception of a non-profit or cheritable type of organization's site. Then you would want to opt for a .org.

      If it were me, I would use the following course of action...

      If a .com is available, I get the .com and also check to see if the .net and .biz are available if it is a commercial domain, as in something that will generate a revenue.

      If the .com is not available then I try to come up with another name. If I can't come up with a better name, then I would get the .net and .biz domains. If their availability is limited, then I would change the name entirely. I never want to risk being confused with someone else's domain.

      Some exceptions are, if I can afford to renew the domains year after year, then I will make certain that I get all of the major TLD's like .com, .net, .org, and .biz. I am starting to consider registering .tv domains as well.

      .mobi is worthless in my opinion... but there may come a time when that will be needed as well, because they may design mobile devices to automatically seek out a .mobi like your pc browser automatically looks for a .com.

      In your case you have some options. If a .com is taken or whatever other TLD you want is taken, go ahead and register the .net and .biz domains if you can afford it. I'm not sure what your financial situation is. Then try to backorder the .com domain name. GoDaddy provides a service for this. Also there is a possibility that you may be able to buy the domain.

      Does the domain actually have content on it? Or is it parked with one of those junky made for adsense sites? If it doesn't have content (real content), then you may be able to acquire it pretty easily. If it does have content, then you may have to pay $1000 to ??? to acquire it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jhongren
      i have heard that .org has more credibility, just like an organisation. is it true?
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      • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
        I seriously doubt it. .org is supposed to be for non profit oranizations. Now I have heard of people trying to get backlinks from .gov and .edu sites. That won't apply here, because you definitely can't register .gov and you can only register a .edu domain if you are an accredited school.
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  • Profile picture of the author seomonster
    Originally Posted by matthewd View Post

    I found a domain I want to buy for a new project, but the ".com" is taken. This has brought a few questions to my mind.

    Are the other options worth it such as .net or .org?

    And, not counting backlinks or on site SEO or anything, JUST the domain name, is the same domain w/ hyphens in between the words just as relevant in Google as the one w/o hyphens? For example: not counting anything else would "warrior-forum.com" be as powerful as "warriorforum.com" when someone searched "warrior forum"
    Don't get too hung up with domain names... it accounts for about 20% of the ranking factor (on-page optimization and link building have more effect on your ranking).

    But as a rule of thumb - .com, then .org, then .net. .info's are not as great because they are often used by grayhat/blackhat spammy site builders.

    Also, no hypen is better, and keep it as short as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author rapidtronics
    I really think it all depends on how GOOD your webiste is. If people like it, they will come back. As far as being ranked by the search engines, .com is always best, but I have had great luck with .org and domain names with hyphens. Sometimes it is easier to read your key words if they are separated by a - . If you find a good domain in .org, .net or with a hyphen, go for it! But ALWAYS take the .com names first.
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    • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
      I will use my domain for example. I opted for jjpmarketing.com instead of jjpinternetmarketing.com. I didn't want a super long domain name. Now some of the search engines send me traffic found based on the keyword "marketing".

      Make certain the major keyword for your niche is in the domain, and be sure to include it frequently on the pages, and in the links of your site. I have a lot of "insert niche here" marketing type of categories on my blog.
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      • Profile picture of the author matthewd
        Thansk for all of the advice. I knew I count on the Warriors to help me out here.
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    Originally Posted by matthewd View Post

    I found a domain I want to buy for a new project, but the ".com" is taken. This has brought a few questions to my mind.

    Are the other options worth it such as .net or .org?

    And, not counting backlinks or on site SEO or anything, JUST the domain name, is the same domain w/ hyphens in between the words just as relevant in Google as the one w/o hyphens? For example: not counting anything else would "warrior-forum.com" be as powerful as "warriorforum.com" when someone searched "warrior forum"
    .com obviously looks more professional when it comes to selling and it is easy to remember for the people who are actually going to type into the address bar.

    Similarly, including hyphens makes it more difficult to type into the address bar.
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    • Profile picture of the author Takuya Hikichi
      Originally Posted by lakshaybehl View Post

      .com obviously looks more professional when it comes to selling and it is easy to remember for the people who are actually going to type into the address bar.
      I don't see domains ending .com extension will obviously look more professional.

      Would a business look more professional by having 800 as US toll free number than 888 toll free? I don't think it does.
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      • Profile picture of the author dancaraya
        I would say .net is close to .com. I've seen .net dominate in the 10 millions of results. So the extension of .net is no worry. I would NOT recommend putting hyphens between your words because it reduces your traffic.
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        • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
          Hikichi San... that is like comparing apples and oranges. It isn't the same thing. But they are the same in this respect. If a person doesn't know the TLD or the first 3 digits of a phone number, which one will they try first? The 800 number and the .com.

          But as far as it being more professional, I agree with you to an extent... It really doesn't apply for phone numbers, but there is a trust factor when it comes to TLD's. A consumer is more likely to trust a .com than anything. They still trust .net and .biz, but not as much as a .com. Of course that is only one of the factors, there is also the site content that plays a big role.
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  • Profile picture of the author imb
    When it comes to Google, what matters most is the vote of other websites to your domain. Even if you have a really long .tk domain with lots of hypens, if it has a lot of related sites linking back to you, you will still rank well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Ellis
      If you select anything other than the .com domain, you WILL end up driving traffic to the .com equivalent.

      People typically associate domain names with a .com extension. I'm guilty myself… I've been visiting a few .net domains for quite some time and I still find that I sometimes type in the domain with the .com extension.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sylvan
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        just remember humans are creatures of habit, many are so used to .coms that they instinctively type that instead. try to rearrange words in the domain you want or use different terms but still get a .com
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        • Profile picture of the author Suthan M
          i dont know why, but i predict the .me can really hold its fort against .com . the .me looks to be more powerful and simpler to remember if you get the right kind of names.

          Example:
          Google.me
          Yahoo.me
          Twitter.me

          What do you think ?
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