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How To Write An Effective Article Without Knowing The Niche?

by ilynreal
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I find a niche in Clickbank and i want to promote it. But the problem is i have little knowledge about the product. What are the tips you can give me how to write good articles if you have little knowledge about the niche?. I watch some youtube videos but i don't think its really effective. How do i syndicated my articles. Honestly i want to be an Article Marketer but me English writing is not that good I can't speak in English but my writing is not. I don't even know if it should be a comma or a period in a sentence or paragraph. But i will learn because i am a dedicated learner. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author ilynreal
    Do you write your article based on density of the keyword, do you rely on seo or should i write the way it should be written?
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    • Profile picture of the author FromBrokeToRich
      Look up the most popular keyword phrases are for that niche on Google and see what kind of information shows up on the from page. Study the top 10 sites and read through their content to get a feel for how these top marketers are commuting with the niche. Then when you go to create your own content you'll be able to communicate best with that niche and connect with them on their level.

      You don't want to just "go after a niche" unless you can truly provide value to the people who are searching for helpful information. Learn about the niche before creating any content. This is not where you look for a shortcut, instead look to provide value.
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      • Profile picture of the author ilynreal
        Originally Posted by FromBrokeToRich View Post

        Look up the most popular keyword phrases are for that niche on Google and see what kind of information shows up on the from page. Study the top 10 sites and read through their content to get a feel for how these top marketers are commuting with the niche. Then when you go to create your own content you'll be able to communicate best with that niche and connect with them on their level.

        You don't want to just "go after a niche" unless you can truly provide value to the people who are searching for helpful information. Learn about the niche before creating any content. This is not where you look for a shortcut, instead look to provide value.
        Yes i copied those 10 sites and reviewed it to know the subject, i even printed out. The question is SEO or keyword density really required to write an effective article?.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmcmark
    I agree with the points that mention by FromBrokeToRich.
    For syndication you can use social media sites like Twitter, Facebook and G+
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    • Profile picture of the author FromBrokeToRich
      Keyword density should be anywhere between 2 - 4%. Use the keyword phrase you're trying to rank for in the headline, the first sentence of your content, last sentence of your content, have the keyword phrase underlined at least once in your content, have your keyword phrase BOLD, at least once, and have an inbound link to another one of your pages. This much will get you well on your way...That's according to how WORDPRESS recommends you create a high SEO blog post and I've also used this method to rank high with articles and press releases.
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      • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
        Originally Posted by FromBrokeToRich View Post

        Keyword density should be anywhere between 2 - 4%. Use the keyword phrase you're trying to rank for in the headline, the first sentence of your content, last sentence of your content, have the keyword phrase underlined at least once in your content, have your keyword phrase BOLD, at least once, and have an inbound link to another one of your pages. This much will get you well on your way...That's according to how WORDPRESS recommends you create a high SEO blog post and I've also used this method to rank high with articles and press releases.
        I think you've been reading from a book written at least five years ago.

        Nowadays you need to be a lot more subtle: hint - a keyword frequency of 1% may be too high in most niches.

        Formulaic article writing has had its day but what is need now is better writing.

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by ilynreal View Post

        How To Write An Effective Article Without Knowing The Niche?
        Start by learning about the niche.

        Originally Posted by ilynreal View Post

        I find a niche in Clickbank and i want to promote it. But the problem is i have little knowledge about the product.
        Articles should be niche-related, not product-related, anyway. But clearly you need to see the product itself, before deciding whether or not you should promote it?!

        Originally Posted by ilynreal View Post

        Honestly i want to be an Article Marketer but me English writing is not that good
        You need either to employ a writer (syndicable articles are not going to be cheap at all, though), or to improve a lot. To be honest, I don't really understand how people whose English isn't too good can become successful with article marketing, without a hugely long and difficult learning-curve. Apologies for sounding disparaging (if I do), but I can't help wondering whether other traffic-generation methods might be more suitable for you?

        Originally Posted by FromBrokeToRich View Post

        Keyword density should be anywhere between 2 - 4%.
        Please excuse my not quite mustering the same degree of tact and diplomacy as Martin (just above), but this is just dreadful advice, and many years out of date, which the OP (and anyone else in her position) should completely ignore.

        (Submitting an article with a keyword density between 2% and 4% to Ezine Articles will get you an automated rejection by their software without your article even getting as far as a human editor. For good reasons. EZA wouldn't allow an article with that keyword density on their site. And neither should you, on yours).
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        • Profile picture of the author ilynreal
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Start by learning about the niche.



          Articles should be niche-related, not product-related, anyway. But clearly you need to see the product itself, before deciding whether or not you should promote it?!



          You need either to employ a writer (syndicable articles are not going to be cheap at all, though), or to improve a lot. To be honest, I don't really understand how people whose English isn't too good can become successful with article marketing, without a hugely long and difficult learning-curve. Apologies for sounding disparaging (if I do), but I can't help wondering whether other traffic-generation methods might be more suitable for you?



          Please excuse my not quite mustering the same degree of tact and diplomacy as Martin (just above), but this is just dreadful advice, and many years out of date, which the OP (and anyone else in her position) should completely ignore.

          (Submitting an article with a keyword density between 2% and 4% to Ezine Articles will get you an automated rejection by their software without your article even getting as far as a human editor. For good reasons. EZA wouldn't allow an article with that keyword density on their site. And neither should you, on yours).
          So it means its not for me?. How sad.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by ilynreal View Post

            So it means its not for me?. How sad.
            How about Carol's suggestion, just above? Might that work for you?

            I don't think it necessarily means that it's not for you, if you can either outsource the articles, or maybe have them carefully edited by a native English speaker prior to submission. But it's simply factual that it's going to be pretty difficult to get articles written in imperfect English syndicated to the places where the highly targeted traffic you need to attract is already reading/subscribed/looking. And there's very little (if any) benefit from having your articles published only in places where you can submit them yourself, without editorial approval.

            So, I'm not trying to say "Don't do it, whatever you do". But I am wondering whether other avenues of traffic-generation might be a better use of your time, energy, effort and so on. Only you can decide this, really.

            (I'll be very honest, here, because I think you know me well enough to understand that I'm not criticizing, but the fact that you're asking under the heading "How to write an effective article without knowing the niche" doesn't fill me with vicarious confidence for you. The reality is that I can't possibly write an effective article without knowing the niche, and wouldn't ever try to, and I hope it won't sound arrogant at all if I add the words "and I don't think you can, either".)

            See if these four posts help you to appreciate what's involved in generating traffic from article marketing? ...

            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3188316
            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7475055
            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6575732
            http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794
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            • Profile picture of the author rbates
              English is not the easiest language to learn, and certainly the grammar part of the language is confusing, even to most native English speakers.

              As far as not knowing about a topic that you want to write about, I would NEVER attempt it. What you can do is to learn about one specific part of topic and go from there, but you still must have the knowledge before you can pass on information to others.

              I like the ideas of Alexa and Rosetrees. If you write articles, do it in your native language, and use Alexa's ideas about using other methods of generating traffic for the English speakers. In this case, I would consider using two web pages. One in your native language, and one in English. Anything that you write in the English language you should have checked for spelling and grammar.

              One thing that cannot hurt you, and that is to use a signature for the forum.
              It gives the readers of your posts the opportunity to check out your site (if you have one). You don't need great English to use the signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author kinyash
    Keyword density is a sensitive area. You have to be careful otherwise google will think there are stuffed keywords in your articles and the result wont be good. I think the best thing is just write interesting stuff around your keywords and make the articles as natural as possible and the rest will fall in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilynreal
    So do i really need to learn seo before writing an article?
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    • Profile picture of the author morninjoi
      Originally Posted by ilynreal View Post

      So do i really need to learn seo before writing an article?
      No. Google has made changes that makes good quality articles rank better. Learn how to write interesting articles with great information and sprinkle your keywords into it. That way you're sure to be on track.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    I often say this to people whose first language isn't English. Have you considered writing articles in your own language? Yes, you'll have a much smaller market, but you will be writing for people who will appreciate finding an informative article in a language they can understand, rather than struggling to understand an article in English.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      I often say this to people whose first language isn't English. Have you considered writing articles in your own language? Yes, you'll have a much smaller market, but you will be writing for people who will appreciate finding an informative article in a language they can understand, rather than struggling to understand an article in English.
      This might be a good idea as in some countries the level of competition is virtually zero, sometimes in almost all niches. I speak from experience.

      The problem is there are very, very few affiliate programs available and they have dreadful commissions. On top of that, in less-developed countries people are aren't accustomed to buying informational products.

      There are workarounds so this isn't an excuse, it's just a point of view.
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  • Profile picture of the author troy23
    I would move onto something you know something about.
    It's much easier to write if you are familiar with the subject.
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    • Profile picture of the author takanomi
      You would certainly need to hire a writer who can write articles at the right level of quality (usually someone with English as a first language), and factor that cost into the cost of your marketing ... unfortunately articles written in poor English don't lend any credibility to whatever product or service the article might be linking to or associated with, in fact they have the opposite effect.

      Alternatively, as per a previous reply, only market it in your own language, or use a different marketing strategy to drive traffic, eg. paid traffic, joint ventures etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author euraffiliates
    I think writing naturally that really excites the reader should be given first priority. Keyword density must be considered but that should never make a reader bored. Now-a-days google is too much skeptical and it will never affect if an article is written naturally.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        There's another possible avenue here.

        Write the articles in your native language and hire a translator to convert them to English. Language students at university level might appreciate a chance to practice and make a little money at the same time.

        If you do hire a translator, show the output to a native speaker to see if the translation makes sense and flows properly for a reader of English.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taniwha
    Judging by your English & grammar, maybe hiring an article writer is best for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    I wonder if a better solution is to not write about things you don't know about.
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