Content is No Longer King?

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According to Peter Garety its not. As a matter of fact he says (paraphrasing) don't waste your time creating more content. There is already a glut of content and that's the primary reason for the G updates.

I'm guessing he's really referring to low quality, junk/plr content. Certainly he's not talking about high-quality, original content is he?
#content #king #longer
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ten
    I think that content is still likely metaphorically king. However, it still does seem important to find a balance between creating new content and marketing existing content, as long as the existing content is not outdated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
      Content has no choice but to be king. Without it, what do we have?
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Joel Young View Post

        Content has no choice but to be king. Without it, what do we have?
        Exactly Joel!

        What would the net be without content? The Picnet? An online phototorial? Saturday morning cartoons muted?

        Seriously, to think that content is ever going to be dethroned as king is just plain...well, I can't be mean, so umm, naive?

        Terra
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      • Profile picture of the author MarciaA
        Originally Posted by Joel Young View Post

        Content has no choice but to be king. Without it, what do we have?
        We have Nothing!



        It's that simple.


        God Bless,
        Marcia
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      • Profile picture of the author willmfftt
        Originally Posted by Joel Young View Post

        Content has no choice but to be king. Without it, what do we have?
        Very true. Whenever I say "content is king" I always put quality in front of it. Technically G updates are because of the content so he is right there but the updates are only because they found a better way to sort out the junk content from the good content.

        Quality content is always going to be king, especially in Google's eyes. Their job is to provide users with great, relevant content... if they can't do that, then Google is no more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    Heck I can not believe anyone thinks little things like this are important to debate.

    I mean heck who cares what everyone is saying...... get out there try and then share your results.....

    For me when I put out good content it tends to bring back rewords as if I was a kid.
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    • Profile picture of the author wordpressmania
      Originally Posted by Clint Faber View Post

      Heck I can not believe anyone thinks little things like this are important to debate.

      I mean heck who cares what everyone is saying...... get out there try and then share your results.....

      For me when I put out good content it tends to bring back rewords as if I was a kid.
      In my experience, I found that when the competition is low ( I use google web master tool ) like below 4000 then you can use or get ranked without unique content. But when the competition is very high you must have to provide genuine content to get google attension.

      But it depends on your marketing strategy, If you use email to get client, I think content does not matter whether it is unique or not, It only matter whether it is good enough to pleased your visitors ( it is also true for the unique articles ).
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      • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
        Originally Posted by wordpressmania View Post

        In my experience, I found that when the competition is low ( I use google web master tool ) like below 4000 then you can use or get ranked without unique content. But when the competition is very high you must have to provide genuine content to get google attension.

        But it depends on your marketing strategy, If you use email to get client, I think content does not matter whether it is unique or not, It only matter whether it is good enough to pleased your visitors ( it is also true for the unique articles ).
        I'm going to portend that you did not bring up.... G web M tools.

        Its ok I made the same mistake myself at one point.

        Please everyone to not give the search engines anymore info then they need.

        Google will look at your data and all of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlcf
    Personally, I think that content is still king. I have an Amazon review website with 100% unique content, it ranks #1 for a 3K exact keyword with zero backlinks. I think creating backlinks or purchasing them is a waste of time and money. I believe that creating a website with 100% unique content along natural backlinks will be key to long-term SEO success. Spend more time writing, not creating backlinks.

    Daniel
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
      Originally Posted by Daniel Carnett View Post

      Personally, I think that content is still king. I have an Amazon review website with 100% unique content, it ranks #1 for a 3K exact keyword with zero backlinks. I think creating backlinks or purchasing them is a waste of time and money. I believe that creating a website with 100% unique content along natural backlinks will be key to long-term SEO success. Spend more time writing, not creating backlinks.

      Daniel
      Not surprised as you say your not much for business structure.

      Funny thing is that if you do not keep a balance over your backlinks
      you will one day get hit bye a de index.

      Just something to think about.

      Glad your site is doing well without.
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  • Profile picture of the author Larry Leggett
    I mean heck who cares what everyone is saying
    I also agree here at this point. If you listen to everyone, you will have no choice but leave internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    You know something google looks at? Your bounce rate. Um....without content on your site.....how long is the viewer gonna stay there? Think about it. Then just make your site the most awesome in its niche for viewers to drop in on frequently. It's really not rocket science.

    I've never worried about optimization - I've worried about how well my viewers are going to like the sight and want to join the forum when they get there............and I've NEVER been slapped. My average viewer is there over 15 minutes and looks at several pages.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      You know something google looks at? Your bounce rate. Um....without content on your site.....how long is the viewer gonna stay there?
      This is why you never wont use google anylitik* tools
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  • Profile picture of the author ochaim
    Sounds like we're only getting half of the claim/story.

    So, what does Peter Garety says IS king, if its not content?
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
      Originally Posted by ochaim View Post

      Sounds like we're only getting half of the claim/story.

      So, what does Peter Garety says IS king, if its not content?
      Think I found the secret to the mix
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane N
    The internet consists of text content, pictures and video.

    Video has not taken over yet, and even videos need to have text content
    either written on the screen or someone narrating it.

    Same goes for informative images (infographics, etc.)

    I don't think pictures or video will be taking over any time soon.

    Best,
    Shane Natan
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  • Profile picture of the author SallyJo
    Funny thing... I have a handful of sites up that I primarily use to send people to when I meet them in other places (networking events, social outings, at a friend's BBQ, whatever) ...

    and I take advantage of the space on these sites once in a while just to "spout off" about something and put a link in my Facebook page to send people to it ....

    And these sites rank super high (which wasn't my goal, really) ... and it's all from just having honest, unique, original content.

    Content is always gonna be King, IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike50
    With the billions of Websites around the world, 'CONTENT' will always be 'KING'!

    Whether you write your own or outsource it, as long as Websites are being built content will be in HIGH demand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    According to Peter Garety its not. As a matter of fact he says (paraphrasing) don't waste your time creating more content. There is already a glut of content and that's the primary reason for the G updates.

    I'm guessing he's really referring to low quality, junk/plr content. Certainly he's not talking about high-quality, original content is he?
    I can't help but to disagree with that statement that, we shouldn't waste our time creating more content. If anything, if you're not doing alot of paid advertising... you should be creating multitudes of content in different venues, and repurposing your content to be used in different places online.
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    • Profile picture of the author sfrewerd
      Doesn't he primarily promote content curating? Maybe that's why he says 'content is no longer king' or however it was said. No need to create more when you 'curate' what's already available...I don't know. ;-0
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  • Profile picture of the author ReferralCandy
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    According to Peter Garety its not. As a matter of fact he says (paraphrasing) don't waste your time creating more content. There is already a glut of content and that's the primary reason for the G updates.

    I'm guessing he's really referring to low quality, junk/plr content. Certainly he's not talking about high-quality, original content is he?
    Yep, don't create content that already exists. Instead, help people navigate and make sense of existing content, help them find what's good, what works. Help save them time and energy instead of adding to their information burden.

    Content is supposed to help your customers. If there's too much of it, though, it can be counter-productive. What matters is that we be helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaulintheSticks
      Originally Posted by sfrewerd View Post

      Doesn't he primarily promote content curating? Maybe that's why he says 'content is no longer king' or however it was said. No need to create more when you 'curate' what's already available...I don't know. ;-0
      Originally Posted by ReferralCandy View Post

      Yep, don't create content that already exists. Instead, help people navigate and make sense of existing content, help them find what's good, what works. Help save them time and energy instead of adding to their information burden.

      Content is supposed to help your customers. If there's too much of it, though, it can be counter-productive. What matters is that we be helpful.
      Yes, I believe you have both hit the nail on the head. Unless its something TRULY unique and not just rehashed articles on dog training, why add to the clutter.

      The reason I asked the question in the 1st place is because I'm in the process of creating a blog/article site. But the more I think about it, I'm sure 95%+ of what I can share is just rehashed stuff I've learned from others and can surely be found in countless places on the web. So, other than to make money, which I don't find very motivating, why bother?

      Don't get me wrong, I need to make money like everyone else, but I want to add value if I'm going to get paid for something.
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      • Profile picture of the author LaniXO
        Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

        Yes, I believe you have both hit the nail on the head. Unless its something TRULY unique and not just rehashed articles on dog training, why add to the clutter.

        The reason I asked the question in the 1st place is because I'm in the process of creating a blog/article site. But the more I think about it, I'm sure 95%+ of what I can share is just rehashed stuff I've learned from others and can surely be found in countless places on the web. So, other than to make money, which I don't find very motivating, why bother?

        Don't get me wrong, I need to make money like everyone else, but I want to add value if I'm going to get paid for something.
        I agree with you about not feeling motivated to create something that could seem rehashed and found all over the web anyway. The only way I can think of to create content that's 'rehashed/repurposed' yet still valuable to your audience, is to provide it in a way that's easier to access or understand than other places online. It depends on your niche, sometimes even though there's a ton of websites all with similar info, not many of them are quality or easy for visitors to navigate or they're poorly optimised. If you see this lacking in the market and think you could do a better job and could really help people then you could build an authority site in a niche that's already saturated. I've done this before.

        Otherwise if you're unmotivated to do that because it doesn't seem appealing, and creating value is what you're concerned about, why not create your site/blog in a niche that you feel passionate about and actually care about? Good quality, unique content will come naturally. If you put a personal spin on it people will be more drawn to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    What is king is an original and engaging experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author mshajid
    Hmmm. The Debate is started. After Penguin 2.0 everything collapsed.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Content is what drives the internet and creates engagement. Google likes content rich sites that engage people and invoke discussion. You want to create unique content that helps people. It's easy to create unique content, your story is unique, write about that. Case studies are unique as well. What Google doesn't like is rehashed content.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikelmraz
    Emptiness is now king.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    I'm guessing that as all good marketers do his compelling headline will get people talking as it has here. Buy the product and get back to us...it's the same as the SEO is dead posts that appeared after the panda and penguin updates.

    I still think Google have difficulty judging what is good or bad content, recently as a test I threw up an Amazon review site, I used an autoblog software to put up 50 posts and then just changed the title of the posts to product xxx review and then did no more, so far three sales in a month, around 20 visitors a day.

    I'm not advocating doing this it was just an experiment as it is not a long term solution.

    Great content will reduce bounce rate, get repeat viewers and in the long term win out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anne0521
    It is as long as it's original and useful to the viewers/readers. How are you going to sell your products/services without content???

    It is still ONE of the most important factors in your site's success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
    Originally Posted by Portlandrocks View Post

    Don't create anymore content. Go back and take the half done articles that you already wrote and turn them into epic posts...
    Don't create content but create content? That's what you just said. (Rewriting/spinning is simply another form of creating) You do realize that content is anything that fills the space, right? Whether it's original or spun beyond recognition, it is still content. Text is content. A video is content. An audio is content. Whatever we put up is content. Without content we have this.

    Content is king; there is no other candidate for the throne.
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  • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
    Another great discussion topic Paul, very nice! Well, I think everyone on the internet has a severe case of ADD. We have the attention span of a gnat and we aren't going to take too much time engaging something. That is unless it really grabs us from the beginning. Maybe video is the new King as YouTube is the second largest site on the internet and certainly the largest content site in terms of traffic.
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  • Originally Posted by Portlandrocks View Post

    I actually agree with Peter (who I think originally echoed a similar statement by Seth Godin).

    I used to just try and put as many posts of content as I could on my blog. 500 words, blurt it out and try to be clever.

    Most was rehashed garbage and I would reckon that the majority of bloggers do the same.

    Then I read this: http://thinktraffic.net/write-epic-shit

    My mind was blown to read that some people spent 8+ hours on a single post.

    So I followed suit. I don't spend 8 hours - but I will spend 4 - 5 on a single post.

    Results?

    I actually get my stuff shared, because I thought about it and it was actually semi-original stuff.

    My content became multi-media without me even trying. I would just be working for about 2 hours and realize I needed to shoot a real quick video or add an image.

    So, I agree with Peter.

    Don't create anymore content. Go back and take the half done articles that you already wrote and turn them into epic posts - and then never write anything less than epic posts every again.
    I have yet to dig into the post you just linked to (off to do that now), but this is spot on. One of the best posts written about content on the Warrior Forum in a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebCod3r
    For me content + social media engagement are King. Why social media...? Just look at that fact why google create g+.
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  • Profile picture of the author Charanjit
    Its all about trends, and the next big way to rank, a few years back you could use blogger to rank easy mode, now you got youtube to rank easy mode, the next one, well facebook fan pages are ranking well.

    But for the debate of content is king and bounce rate.

    well bounce rate is a big pile of bull, let me explain

    wikipedia has a very high bounce rate, not because its poor, but because its that good.

    yahoo answers has a very high bounce rate, not because its poor, but because its that good.

    demoz has a very high bounce rate, not because its poor, but because its that good.

    yahoo directory has a very high bounce rate, not because its poor, but because its that good.

    nearly 99% of directory's have a high bounce rate, user types in what they need i.e taxi number walsall,

    ranking number one and two a directory, user clicks on directory, gets number phones company end result a high bounce rate.

    user types in a question, user clicks on the number one - yahoo answers, reads the first reply gets the answer and moves on = high bounce rate.

    user types in a phrase, user click on number one - wikipedia, reads what it means and moves on = high bounce rate.

    so get your heads out of a black hole and think out side the box,

    yes content is king if you want what?

    if you think unique content will all ways out rank non unique, how about you test it and let me know how you get on.

    hows this, ill my time where my theory is.

    you start a website - get it ranked for which every keyword it is

    and after a week ill use your content, spin it and rank for the same keyword.

    easiest method to test.

    moral of the story - social signals is king.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I see lots of confusion in this thread - just like Google intended with their constant updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    With Google, MONEY is king. If Google were truly interested in "quality" content, they wouldn't allow the intentional sabotage of the ranks of other sites through negative SEO.

    Google is more interested in making money than displaying the "best" content.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      With Google, MONEY is king. If Google were truly interested in "quality" content, they wouldn't allow the intentional sabotage of the ranks of other sites through negative SEO.

      Google is more interested in making money than displaying the "best" content.
      Finally, a cynical poster who understands how the world really works

      Money is KING and everyone is but a PAWN in Google's game of world domination. They pretended to love your content when they needed you. Now that they have a deluge of content, all content creators are essentially obsolete.
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    • Profile picture of the author PaidAllDay
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      With Google, MONEY is king. If Google were truly interested in "quality" content, they wouldn't allow the intentional sabotage of the ranks of other sites through negative SEO.

      Google is more interested in making money than displaying the "best" content.
      That's great insight and I never really thought about it from that angle. You are right, it is in their best interest to prevent affiliate pages from appearing high in the results because that will reduce the amount of money they make from paid ads.

      To put it another way... we (internet marketers and affiliates) are the ones buying the paid ads, if our content displays in the top of the serps we won't spend as much on paid ads. So they follow our link building patterns, our plugins, and our methods and as soon as we get up, they push us back down.

      I guess that is why the world's largest free site (with no commercial interest) is always at the top of the search results, like this one for Internet Marketing. I've never seen a paid ad for wikipedia... ever.
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      • Profile picture of the author africadream
        Your ability to build a company or sustainable advantage because you have a better concept or better content is over.

        If people don't develop a profound personal preference for you and your company, you'll always struggle to grow the business or even survive at all.

        it's about the relationship that you build with your community and the people in it. When you have that relationship, it's very difficult for anyone else to get their attention, or to attract them away from you.

        So, building an authentic connection and relationship is the first key to the future of business
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    • Profile picture of the author clever7
      When we say that ‘content is king’ we mean that it surpasses everything else. This is not true today.

      Even if you will publish precious content giving valuable lessons and important new information at your website or blog, without linkbuilding your page won't be displayed at Google’s first results page. Google will send it to page one hundred because of the Penguin updates, which eliminated the effect of the first Panda. The first Panda helped content producers. At that time content was a powerful king (2011).

      Now linkbuilding is more important than content. Tomorrow, something else will be more important.

      Google was very generous with us for more than ten years. Now we have to spend a lot of money if we want to get to the top.

      Many new updates will happen… Google is abusing of its power, but nobody can verify what exactly it is doing and why.

      Wish content was a very powerful king all the time, but unfortunately this old expression belongs to the past.

      I believe that this is the best answer in this thread:

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      With Google, MONEY is king. If Google were truly interested in "quality" content, they wouldn't allow the intentional sabotage of the ranks of other sites through negative SEO.

      Google is more interested in making money than displaying the "best" content.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Clever7, there would be no linking without content to be linked, surely you are clever enough to understand that.

        As for Google, sure they want to make money, they are a business entity after all. And what is their business? It is a search engine for...wait for it...searching for content. What do they rank? Content. If content weren't king, they wouldn't bother building their business around it.

        Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Clever7, there would be no linking without content to be linked, surely you are clever enough to understand that.

          As for Google, sure they want to make money, they are a business entity after all. And what is their business? It is a search engine for...wait for it...searching for content. What do they rank? Content. If content weren't king, they wouldn't bother building their business around it.

          Terra
          Hi Terra,

          Of course, you have to link to "something" which we call content. This is taking the "letter" of the statement. However, I believe the "intent" is that good content will win over bad/average content.

          And Google doesn't care about the quality of the content, they merely care about how much money they can make. If they cared about "quality", sites like Hubpages etc wouldn't continually get slapped almost out of existence.

          There's pretty good evidence Google doesn't like affiliate sites no matter how good the content is.

          In Google's eyes, money is king. Content is just a court jester.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Hi Terra,

            Of course, you have to link to "something" which we call content. This is taking the "letter" of the statement. However, I believe the "intent" is that good content will win over bad/average content.

            And Google doesn't care about the quality of the content, they merely care about how much money they can make. If they cared about "quality", sites like Hubpages etc wouldn't continually get slapped almost out of existence.

            There's pretty good evidence Google doesn't like affiliate sites no matter how good the content is.

            In Google's eyes, money is king. Content is just a court jester.
            Well Kurt,

            If nothing else, you made me burst forth in song as something in your post made me remember this part of one of my favorite ditties.

            "When the Jester sang for the king and queen in a coat he borrowed from James Dean
            In a voice that came from you and me

            Oh, and while the King was looking down the Jester stole his thorny crown
            The courtroom was adjourned - no verdict was returned"

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  • Profile picture of the author Thriftypreneur
    I also hear that...

    SEO is dead...

    Internet marketing is dead...

    List building is dead...

    video marketing is dead...

    social media is dead...

    content marketing is dead...

    infographic marketing is dead...

    and desktop PCs are dead.

    Just goes to show you how much you should pay attention to what you hear, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
    Originally Posted by PaulintheSticks View Post

    According to Peter Garety its not. As a matter of fact he says (paraphrasing) don't waste your time creating more content. There is already a glut of content and that's the primary reason for the G updates.

    I'm guessing he's really referring to low quality, junk/plr content. Certainly he's not talking about high-quality, original content is he?
    It depends. What is he promoting as a replacement, and is he doing it without content?

    :p:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Lynts
    There is something here though original content from you is king, buying PLR, Fiverr articles, and then respinning them, seriously how many people have bought those same articles and spun them, it will come to a point where its still some same article over and over and over again,

    this is why i changed to video blogging, and its on fire. and video especially through youtube is huge.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigSistah16
    I agree that content is king, but I often wonder how much unique content can there be when you look at how many people are on the internet and what they are writing about? What is there to say that has not been said before?

    BigSstah
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      Uh, Hello, Searchers don't come to your sites to stare at a blank page!

      Content is not only the king if you think about it it's the Anchor as well. Everything you do is anchored to your content. Would someone give an FB like to a blank page? Can you just put a link in the center of a blank page and expect to make millions? (actually you couldn't put the link in the page because that would then be your content).

      You anchor everything you do from your content and you get all the stuff you want to get as a result of the action people take after viewing or listening to your content.

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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        I'm not quite sure why we are still discussing this, but perhaps if put a different way, some will come to an understanding.

        Content is King, period.

        All of the other things mentioned are subserviant to the King such as traffic and link building. Everything else mentioned serves on the King's court and do his bidding. But the King still rules.

        Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author clever7
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          I'm not quite sure why we are still discussing this, but perhaps if put a different way, some will come to an understanding.

          Content is King, period.

          All of the other things mentioned are subserviant to the King such as traffic and link building. Everything else mentioned serves on the King's court and do his bidding. But the King still rules.

          Terra
          Everything is based on content but now the content's quality is not as important as it used to be before. Websites with excellent content are in the last pages because they don't have what Google requires from them.

          Now everyone must spend money to follow Google's changes, or use their Adwords account to drive traffic to their pages.

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by clever7 View Post

            Everything is based on content but now the content's quality is not as important as it used to be before. Websites with excellent content are in the last pages because they don't have what Google requires from them.

            Now everyone must spend money to follow Google's changes, or use their Adwords account to drive traffic to their pages.
            Or use other means for driving traffic to their content. Google is just one avenue out of many in the city of the internet. And it is best not to use Google as Main Street, either.

            Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author Tbyrd626
    Content will always be king.

    However, for a new blog, the "if I build it they will come" mentality is faulty.

    In terms of getting traffic to your site, good content can not be relied upon as your only means of ranking high in Google. You need to do other things to get traffic and improve rankings.

    In other words, if you are relying on just writing good content in hopes that you will eventually get loads of traffic, it's not gonna happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by Tbyrd626 View Post

      Content will always be king.

      However, for a new blog, the "if I build it they will come" mentality is faulty.

      In terms of getting traffic to your site, good content can not be relied upon as your only means of ranking high in Google. You need to do other things to get traffic and improve rankings.

      In other words, if you are relying on just writing good content in hopes that you will eventually get loads of traffic, it's not gonna happen.
      Content is very important but yes if you do nothing with that content and no one sees it then it's a waste of time.

      Great content then getting your content in front of your target audience is key.

      No one will magically send you traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Content is a poor king. It had the chances to shine with the Panda updates, but the Penguin updates are giving more importance to link building.






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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by clever7 View Post

      Content is a poor king. It had the chances to shine with the Panda updates, but the Penguin updates are giving more importance to link building.






      Are you saying link building is king?

      So tell me how link building can be done without content? Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't links link to content?

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author MelanieandMiles
    It is funny how many threads are popping up like this... All while we continue to place content on pg1 of Google over and over and over again.

    Lol... keep spreading the dis-information because you are decreasing the amount of competition for those of us who are busy with our knuckles to the grindstone.

    And... for the record.... In the last 3 weeks, we've put up several 'new blogs' that went straight to the first page with one piece of content. One teammate stuck his brand new site with 1 page of content to the #1 spot on Google for his target keyword phrase in 6 hours!
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    • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
      Originally Posted by MelanieandMiles View Post

      It is funny how many threads are popping up like this... All while we continue to place content on pg1 of Google over and over and over again.

      Lol... keep spreading the dis-information because you are decreasing the amount of competition for those of us who are busy with our knuckles to the grindstone.

      And... for the record.... In the last 3 weeks, we've put up several 'new blogs' that went straight to the first page with one piece of content. One teammate stuck his brand new site with 1 page of content to the #1 spot on Google for his target keyword phrase in 6 hours!
      You're missing the point though.

      Yes you can RANK (if you give a shit about that, right now I do not so much) easily enough with poor / not much content quite quickly if you know how to please the G algorithms with your backlink types but if your content is terrible your VISITORS (more important than Google) will not hang around and eventually G is going to figure out your site sucks anyway and stop you from ranking so either way you're f*cked.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by MelanieandMiles View Post

      It is funny how many threads are popping up like this... All while we continue to place content on pg1 of Google over and over and over again.

      Lol... keep spreading the dis-information because you are decreasing the amount of competition for those of us who are busy with our knuckles to the grindstone.

      And... for the record.... In the last 3 weeks, we've put up several 'new blogs' that went straight to the first page with one piece of content. One teammate stuck his brand new site with 1 page of content to the #1 spot on Google for his target keyword phrase in 6 hours!
      That's really impressive, especially for someone who couldn't even keep their Warrior Forum account active
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  • Profile picture of the author aarthielumalai
    Of course it's still king, and it always will be. I mean, information marketing is not something new; it's been there for way too many years. How could someone say content, i.e information is not at the forefront of this business?

    I agree that written content alone won't work anymore. People are not patient enough to read through pages of content, and sometimes, they'd prefer to listen to an audio or watch a video in it's place; but, they are all still content right?

    Google's updates were brought out so more quality content could be created, not the other way around.

    Granted, you need to market your content in order to make anything from it, but once you get the first few eyeballs on it, if your content is good enough, it has the potential to market itself (viral marketing!), so yeah, at the end of the day, without high quality content, you won't have anything worthwhile to market.

    Now, useless, copied or spun content that does not add any value to the readers is definitely NOT the king, but I'm sure we're not talking about that here.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Clark
      In my opinion, original unique content is king. If someone one is wandering around your website or blog they have respect for you right? Until they come across an article that they have read on another blog or website.

      Your credibility immediately goes down a notch. And they lose respect for you. But if you write from the heart everyday you won't have that problem.

      What I see in the online businesses is just the opposite. Marketers are saying the same thing, that is, pick a niche, put-up squeeze page, and drive traffic.

      When you copy someone else you loose your personality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sornie Samante
    YES and NO.

    YES. because if you create expert level or high quality articles above 800 words on a single page of your website with proper backlinking - linking to high PR sites and authority sites or high traffic websites. Chances are it could stand on its own merit.

    NO. If it doesn't met the above details.

    My 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author ClaraBr
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    Content is still King, otherwise we probably wouldn't be here debating this. Really good, original content has a good survival rate on the internet. Good research needs to be accompanied by a personal input, like an opinion, advice, or a new and interesting perspective on things.
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  • Profile picture of the author amcg
    I agree with those who say content is still key. Technology changes, human behavior changes but we all still want content. Without content, the medium is worthless. if you want an example, just look at the most profitable consumer business - Apple - who have the best content ecosystem on the planet. This sells iPhones and the plethora of devices that came before it/will come after it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Hill SEO
    You certainly caught my attention with the title of this thread...perhaps that was the original idea because content will always be king and presentation will always be queen!
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    The only time when content is not king, is when you are trying to sell a product that requires "No website" "No domain" just a click of a button to make $182,483 and 43 cents.
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    Content is the Drag Queen and Moolah is the King
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  • You may be able to rank without good content, but considering that the internet is first and foremost a communication channel, you're very out of touch with your customers if you don't strive to say something worth hearing.

    And even if all you do is act as an intermediary - channeling traffic to an offer that gets you a commission - the good content in that product (or the illusion of it) is the draw that makes it all possible.

    Keeping in mind, of course, that content comes in many forms other than the written word...
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    I think unique, "niche" content is still king. But clever curation can be a time saver, maybe "queen"??
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Lets see in the last ten years I have heard....
    Internet Marketing is dead.
    Emails are dead.
    Marketing on Craigslist is dead.
    Amazon is dead.
    Ebay is Dead.
    We Imers just can't get a break lol.
    I can go on and on and on. I still use all these.
    I also still get plr articles rewrite them to pass copyscape put them up and get clicks.

    I think honestly that someone wants to be the first to say something is dead.

    I will continue to plug the way I plug and when I see something not working as well will tweak it, if I can't get it to work well anymore then i will move on and come back to it next year. Internet Marketing is like clothes, it always come back into style sometime.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I should say also, I love people who love the word dead and love it when they spread that word around.

    Less competition for me means more money in my pocket.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke View Post

      I should say also, I love people who love the word dead and love it when they spread that word around.

      Less competition for me means more money in my pocket.
      From someone who wrote the book on writing:

      "Dead was the gift that kept on giving. Dead, like diamonds, was forever."
      ― Stephen King, Song of Susannah
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  • Profile picture of the author CBusiness
    Content is still king but GOOGLE is getting dangerously close to being a corporate playground
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    • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
      CLOSE! lol. I think they are where they need to be knocked down the full ladder lol. I wish a new boy would hit the block, everytime I make money with google they seem to find a way not to let you make money with them.
      I dont even do ppc or adwords with them any longer.

      Originally Posted by CBusiness View Post

      Content is still king but GOOGLE is getting dangerously close to being a corporate playground
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