Looking for membership site solution that does EXACTLY this

by Taika
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Hi,

I have been doing A LOT of research to find out a technical solution for my upcoming membership site, so far without success. It would need to be WP-plugin OR if not, then it needs to be one ***damn robust solution that does practically everything including making me espresso and giving me mind blowing bj, every day.

EDIT: The following needs to be done with regular PayPal business account WITHOUT PayPal payments pro service:

It needs to have the following functions: Ability to create BOTH unlimited (or at least several ) INDEPENDENT ("flat"/non hierarchical) recurring payment (weekly/monthly/yearly) membership levels with option to have at least one trial period(s) each AND UNLIMITED (or large) number of separate one-time payment products.

Ability to accept PayPal payments and being able to redirect to upsell page RIGHT AFTER successful PayPal transaction (instead of log in/register page like some solutions does) . Ability to first sell one-time payment membership , then recurring payment membership by using the payment flow I described. Ability to have one time payment and recurring payment sales infinitely and "mix" them in whatever order I choose until finally when the customer has gone thru all the upsells and downsells and hits the last "no thanks" button he/she will be redirected to the log in/reg page and the "system" will give access to whatever he/she ordered.

Solid affiliate system they (affiliates) can trust or smooth integration with iDev. Ability to pay affiliates in real time via paypal.

Rest are Ideals:
Ideally the ability to assign separate aff.comissons levels to each affiliate.

Ideally amazon S3 file protection.

Ideally ability to have pay-per-view based products (independent from other products/membership levels)

Ideally ability to sell posts / pages with "teaser" content.


No ducktape stuff , or whatever it is called in english. It needs to be one goddamn solution (no zillion plugins please)

Does it exists? Thanks.

EDIT: I have tried to upgrade to payments pro (which would open me more possibilities to find out right membership solution) but paypal does not like non U.S citizens, even those who are not from "trouble" countries. Does anyone know how to get this freaking payments pro, and why they make it so difficult?

EDT: the espresso and bj part is joke, so feel free to introduce non wp-plugin solution as well, if it otherwise meets the criteria. I can have my espresso and bj from elsewhere, and they do not even need to be integrated with the rest of the solution....would be nice to have both from the same service provider in my local area tho.

Taika
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  • Profile picture of the author Teravel
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  • Profile picture of the author Taika
    Thanks,

    Sorry, I forgot to mention; all this needs to be done with regular PayPal business account WITHOUT PayPal payments pro service. s2member does not do that (it limits the membership levels if not using payments pro). Also, on the list of features it mentions about membership levels " Free, Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum." as an example. This leads me to believe that the levels are hierarchical (even if they are independent they are limited if not using payments pro.)

    I hate it when salespage does not mention if the membership levels are hierarchical or independent...I have gone thru about 15-20 different solutions salespages, most of them never mentions this critical information. Have gone too many times thru process of purchasing, creating user info, downloading, installing, configuration, etc only to find out that the plugin/software can create only hierarchical levels, or it does not support the sales flow process I am looking for (and did not CLEARLY mention on salespage about the payment flow options), and then asking for refund cos the solution is dead in the waters and finally unsubscribing from the "updates" that I dont need...waste of time.

    btw, I have tried to upgrade to payments pro (which would open me more possibilities to find out right membership solution) but paypal does not like non U.S citizens, even those who are not from "trouble" countries. Does anyone know how to get this freaking payments pro, and why they make it so difficult?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Check out Digital Access Pass. From my own experience and research (it's the software I use) it has probably the most features and flexibility of all the membership plugins I have seen.

    I would recommend you check out their documentation area as you will be able to get a much more indepth idea of what's possible.

    http://digitalaccesspass.com/documentation/
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      The most comprehensive, all in one, no plugins solution I know. It's pricey but you get what you pay for.

      Membergate

      Good luck,

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  • Profile picture of the author Taika
    @WillR,
    Thanks, but I have tried DAP as well, while the features are impressive indeed it does NOT do EXACTLY the sales funnel flow I described.

    It has upsell tree plugin that they sell separately to get close to what I want with PayPal business (without paypal payments pro) tho, but it is not exactly what I want. For some strange reason it insists that if I want to sell recurring payment product/membership it has to be the first product on the funnel and they even say it is PayPal issue. NO!, it is NOT paypal issue if using the flow I have described (where customer completes transaction for every product he/she purchases on the funnel separately and will be always redirected to the upsell/downsell until finally he/she has had enough and hits the last "no thanks" button and gets redirected to log in/reg page, giving the access to everything purchased. How do I know it is possible for both PayPal and to have such code/software that does that? Cos I have used Membersnap which allows this payment flow, but unfortunately it has other limitations (hierarchical levels being major one) so it is not the right solution either.

    @Steve,
    Thanks, that is one of those I have not looked into yet, or do not remember (this research has taken longer than I care to admit)...hopefully I find it to be winner. I am willing to pay premium price if I could only (dear God/ Buddha/ Krisna/ Cosmic force of Universe/ King-Penguin/ whatever) find the solution I want.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheddarben
    If you don't find EXACTLY the product you want AND you are willing to pay a premium... perhaps you should have it built.
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    • Profile picture of the author vickybabe
      I just purchased Instamember a few days ago. I have not gone through it completely, but i believe that it will do most if not all that you want it to do. I know for a fact that it does a few of those things. Plus it is a plugin
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  • Profile picture of the author Taika
    @cheddarben,

    Probably. Altho, I should have chosen my words more carefully. By willing to pay premium I mean premium compared to cheaper solutions there; I can pay, say, $1000-$2000, or around $200-$300/month. Having one built from the scratch would cost probably more like $10k-$100k , not to mention months if not year or more to have it developed...a site offline can not make me money.

    I find myself in strange situation; there are lots of membership site solutions that have all kinds of crazy features that I have not even heard of before, yet they lack these rather basic things: independent membership levels, PayPal "optimized" salesflow, solid affiliate system. The major bottleneck for me is the payment gateway....http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...europeans.html, if I lived in U.S I could have corresponding paypal and/or merchant account and payment gateway would not be issue, and there would be instantly dozens membership solutions that would have also all the other features from my SHORT , basic list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Taika
    @vickybabe,

    Thank you. I have sent them ticket earlier...waiting their response. If it does all that jazz..PERFECT!
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  • Profile picture of the author rondo
    Instamember should do all of that, but you can only set 2 affiliate commission levels - one for "regular" affiliates, and one for "exclusive" affiliates.

    Google for a demo.

    What do you mean by realtime payments? If you mean instant commissions you'll need to use jvzoo or digiresults or similar affiliate system instead of instamember's own affiliate system.


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  • Profile picture of the author Taika
    @rondo,

    Thank you. Yea, I ment instant commissions...but InstaMember is starting to look good option if it can do "all that" (except instant commissions for affiliates). I think will give it a try...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    aMember is a good solution for membership sites (although its not a WordPress plugin, which I find ideal actually... since WordPress is a software package developed for BLOGS not membership sites).
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    You are asking quite a lot. No membership solution does everything. Even the ones that claim to do it all, fall short in one area or the other (integration, affiliate management, customer portal to update billing info, no api, list building, access management, upsell trees, dunning management for bounced cards, etc.). You have to weigh what is most important then pick the least EVIL one that does most of what you want. Cross your fingers and hope the developers add the rest of the features you need. Or just build your own solution from scratch if you are willing to invest the money.
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    • Profile picture of the author bwh1
      Originally Posted by roblawrence View Post

      You are asking quite a lot. No membership solution does everything.
      I dito that one.

      And maybe you let us know what you already tried, tested, looked at so people don't spend time to write posts for stuff which don't do EXACTLY what you want.

      On that side, have you looked into the Profit Theme with Zaxaa integration. Both are from the same company and work seamlessly together.

      That would fit most probably best for what you want to accomplish.

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  • Profile picture of the author Vector Graphics
    I own Instamember and Membersonic. I am sure that Instamember does everything you need for your membership site.

    I have dealt with their support and they are awesome so I would have to say Instamember is the way to go. They should be able to answer any questions you have quickly!
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  • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
    How did everything turn out? Have you started your membership site yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author onlinebizgiant
    Buddy, why don't you try to outsource it? I'm sure you can find somebody in the fourm, elance or Odesk and post your job. Before get into the agreement, ask all your questions to see whether the applicant knows his stuff. Focus your attention on more profitable things than worrying about technical things especially when you can outsource it. Make sense?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ian Ralphs
    Have you looked at Membermouse (as the platform - NB Its a WP plugin - but rock solid enterprise level) and Stripe as the payment processor?

    I think you'll find that the options with MM can cope with your requirements, and Stripe is great.

    And when you register with MM, for under $300 they offer a service where they will give you a 1hr consultation and then set up your site for you.

    this is the route I am going for with all of my membership sites.

    Hope this helps
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    • Profile picture of the author roblawrence
      Originally Posted by Ian Ralphs View Post

      Have you looked at Membermouse (as the platform - NB Its a WP plugin - but rock solid enterprise level) and Stripe as the payment processor?

      I think you'll find that the options with MM can cope with your requirements, and Stripe is great.

      And when you register with MM, for under $300 they offer a service where they will give you a 1hr consultation and then set up your site for you.

      this is the route I am going for with all of my membership sites.

      Hope this helps
      Do you know of any examples running member mouse?
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  • Profile picture of the author bobby_shahzad
    Hey,

    I would recommend you Constant Continuty - Membership Management Software . It has everything you need except the affiliate system.

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