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The money is in the list... How big is yours?

by rodelu
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We all know that the real money in Internet Marketing is in the list. I was wondering if you would like to share how big your list is, how you built it (solos, WSOs, etc) and in what niche.

It may be an inspiration to other people, but please don't inflate numbers

Anybody?
#big #list #money
  • Profile picture of the author ZachRobinson
    My is list has about 0 people
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Coe
    +250 plus list of highly targeted subscribers. I was mainly using craigslist, giving a guide out for free, get a 5-10 subs a week from that. But I just launched a WSO and my subs spiked after offering free updates and case studies. I'm not big in listing building like many others, so I'm happy with what I got.

    Hope this helps you
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Which list, I have hundreds. You should never have one list, If you been in the Im industry enough you should have many niche lists.
    Some of my small lists can earn me more than my big lists.

    I also doubt any real marketer will give you the right numbers. Its our trade secret, we don't divulge numbers or websites.
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    • Profile picture of the author MartinBuckley
      I have a buyers list of over 1,500 customers and a list of over 3,000 subscribers to a free money making report I offer on my website.

      All the best,

      Martin
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    • Profile picture of the author redeem54
      How are you keeping your list satisfied, are you using articles, blogs, newsletters, emails, videos or etc?

      I struggle with what to send to my list on a daily basis as regarding something of value.

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
        Originally Posted by redeem54 View Post

        How are you keeping your list satisfied, are you using articles, blogs, newsletters, emails, videos or etc?

        I struggle with what to send to my list on a daily basis as regarding something of value.

        James
        Hi,

        You can keep your subscribers engaged by just sending them PURE
        CONTENT EMAILS...

        OR...

        ...You can direct them from your emails to your blog where there is
        great content for them to read and that can help them with there
        online business etc etc.

        Once you have produced an archive of content on your blog/from
        your emails etc, you can then re-use or re-purpose that content
        and place them into your automated email sequence.

        This way you don't have to worry about creating an auto-responder
        series of messages and you know that awesome content is going to
        automatically go out to them and build relationships for you.

        You don't necessarily need to send them something everyday!

        The first few days yeah you can send them 5 - 10 high quality emails
        or ones that link to great content etc.

        But it sounds like you are giving yourself too much to do in too short
        a time.

        Study what other successful marketers are doing, you will find they
        aren't sweating out masses of great content everyday but they use what they
        already have to their advantage.

        All the best hope this helps.

        Regards
        Gavin
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        • Profile picture of the author rodelu
          Originally Posted by gcbmark20 View Post

          Hi,

          You can keep your subscribers engaged by just sending them PURE
          CONTENT EMAILS...

          OR...

          ...You can direct them from your emails to your blog where there is
          great content for them to read and that can help them with there
          online business etc etc.

          Once you have produced an archive of content on your blog/from
          your emails etc, you can then re-use or re-purpose that content
          and place them into your automated email sequence.

          This way you don't have to worry about creating an auto-responder
          series of messages and you know that awesome content is going to
          automatically go out to them and build relationships for you.

          You don't necessarily need to send them something everyday!

          The first few days yeah you can send them 5 - 10 high quality emails
          or ones that link to great content etc.

          But it sounds like you are giving yourself too much to do in too short
          a time.

          Study what other successful marketers are doing, you will find they
          aren't sweating out masses of great content everyday but they use what they
          already have to their advantage.

          All the best hope this helps.

          Regards
          Gavin
          Thanks Gavin, this is what I was looking for, thank you for your comments. Sometimes something like, "Hey, I found this great post about _____, go check it out...." can go way further than a spammy email trying to sell them something we haven't even tried.
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      • Profile picture of the author rodelu
        Originally Posted by redeem54 View Post

        How are you keeping your list satisfied, are you using articles, blogs, newsletters, emails, videos or etc?

        I struggle with what to send to my list on a daily basis as regarding something of value.

        James
        I know what you mean, and it can be a lot of work, but it is also satisfying (for me at least) when you get somebody thanking you for the value you gave them. Thanks James
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    ok here we go again, but how long is a piece of string ey?

    Its not the size that counts its how we use it? yes, I am talking about email marketing.

    I have made $12,000 from an email list of just over 1000 people before, but I had to prep them, and give them lots of good stuff first. But whoever said this marketing stuff is easy.

    Its not the size of your list, its how good you can communicate and give value that will determine you succeess I always think.

    I know marketers with over 300k list, but they do not get any resuts, cause they spend their days spamming. Not a good thing. You can make a good monthly income from a list of a few thousand, possibly even less if you treat them right. Treat them like your best friend, and email them like that and see what happens. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author eClicker
      Hey Celente,

      Was that list you have built around the IM niche?


      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      ok here we go again, but how long is a piece of string ey?

      Its not the size that counts its how we use it? yes, I am talking about email marketing.

      I have made $12,000 from an email list of just over 1000 people before, but I had to prep them, and give them lots of good stuff first. But whoever said this marketing stuff is easy.

      Its not the size of your list, its how good you can communicate and give value that will determine you succeess I always think.

      I know marketers with over 300k list, but they do not get any resuts, cause they spend their days spamming. Not a good thing. You can make a good monthly income from a list of a few thousand, possibly even less if you treat them right. Treat them like your best friend, and email them like that and see what happens. :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author rodelu
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      ok here we go again, but how long is a piece of string ey?

      Its not the size that counts its how we use it? yes, I am talking about email marketing.

      I have made $12,000 from an email list of just over 1000 people before, but I had to prep them, and give them lots of good stuff first. But whoever said this marketing stuff is easy.

      Its not the size of your list, its how good you can communicate and give value that will determine you succeess I always think.

      I know marketers with over 300k list, but they do not get any resuts, cause they spend their days spamming. Not a good thing. You can make a good monthly income from a list of a few thousand, possibly even less if you treat them right. Treat them like your best friend, and email them like that and see what happens. :-)
      You hit the nail in the head, it's how good you communicate and give value, I love that. I believe that we can change the responsiveness of the list by focusing on giving value instead of "how much can I make". Thanks Celente, this is the kind of response I was looking for!
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  • Profile picture of the author shane_k
    oh god, I sure hope this doesn't deteriate into one of those "the money is not in the list it's in the (fill in blank here) argument threads where people start splitting hairs


    Anyway, I have a few lists for myself and a few that I run for clients.

    One of my clients has a list of about 100 people but it is great for them because the subscribers are very responsive, and it's easy to drive them into my clients store.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by rodelu View Post

    The money is in the list... How big is yours?
    The biggest list isn't normally the highest income producer at all.

    Income depends far more on targeting, quality, expectation-setting/fulfilment and continuity processes than on "numbers of people".

    I'm not making some abstruse/theoretical/pedantic point. It's a very realistic, practical point of enormous potential signifiance to most marketers. On four occasions over the last three years I've done six-month-long split-tests of listbuilding from the same traffic, and on each of the four occasions the bigger lists (and they were significantly bigger) produced less income.

    It really is all about quality, rather than numbers: in this context, quality is what you can take to the bank.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982
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  • Profile picture of the author Romeo90
    The money is not in the list.

    The money is in a highly targeted,responsive list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    It'll be 1 larger once you sign up.
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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    How can be the size of list INSPIRATIONAL to others?

    Instead you might have asked how you make relations with your list? what is your approach to get attention of your list? might be more significant and inspiring.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    The size of the list doesn't really matter. I have a 80k list that I have a lot of trouble monetizing, whereas a list that I started building recently - numbering in the 800's - has already made me three sales today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
    I have numerous lists, in numerous sub-niches, but then again I've been
    building since 1996. I honestly find that size matters a lot less than how
    you use it

    I've built my list through content creation, running affiliate programs, PPC,
    social media, free giveaways, JV's, purchasing co-reg leads (back in the day), SMS text marketing, selling physical products via platforms such as Ebay and Amazon with "bounceback" offers embedded in the product, solo ads, cross-promotions and list-building co-ops, speaking presentations in both the IM and local biz communities, and probably a dozen other ways

    Willie
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    • Profile picture of the author rodelu
      Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

      I have numerous lists, in numerous sub-niches, but then again I've been
      building since 1996. I honestly find that size matters a lot less than how
      you use it

      I've built my list through content creation, running affiliate programs, PPC,
      social media, free giveaways, JV's, purchasing co-reg leads (back in the day), SMS text marketing, selling physical products via platforms such as Ebay and Amazon with "bounceback" offers embedded in the product, solo ads, cross-promotions and list-building co-ops, speaking presentations in both the IM and local biz communities, and probably a dozen other ways

      Willie
      Thanks Willie for stopping by and participating. I know you've been around for a long time and I've always admired you. I guess doing IM in the mid nineties was not easy, correct?
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      • Profile picture of the author luane
        I love this thread...more golden nuggets in this than in some WSOs I have bought.
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      • Profile picture of the author Willie Crawford
        Originally Posted by rodelu View Post

        Thanks Willie for stopping by and participating. I know you've been around for a long time and I've always admired you. I guess doing IM in the mid nineties was not easy, correct?
        There were fewer people doing it back then, so you had to learn a lot
        of things on your own, but even back then, you were told to build a
        database, build a relationship with members of that database, and sell
        them goods and services that they needed and wanted.

        I don't think that it was really easier or harder back then. I simply
        found one or two people who were living the lifestyle that I envisioned
        and modeled them. To this day, I still model a lot of what Jim Daniels
        was doing back then.

        Willie
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        • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
          Man I remember him, isn't this is site been up forever. My Top 10 Mobile Business Apps in today's BizWeb eGazette he built it before 2000 lol.
          Originally Posted by Willie Crawford View Post

          There were fewer people doing it back then, so you had to learn a lot
          of things on your own, but even back then, you were told to build a
          database, build a relationship with members of that database, and sell
          them goods and services that they needed and wanted.

          I don't think that it was really easier or harder back then. I simply
          found one or two people who were living the lifestyle that I envisioned
          and modeled them. To this day, I still model a lot of what Jim Daniels
          was doing back then.

          Willie
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  • Profile picture of the author Geenius
    I launched my blog last week and now have a list of 93 subscribers.

    Now I'm working on creating relationship, trust, credibility with them, and then ultimately PROFIT.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    I have more than 10 lists in different niches. the least number of subscribers in the list is 50 and the maximum number of subscribers is around 2560.
    I build my lists by giving WSOs.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethriley
    I have a few lists, some that I use and some that I don't due to email companies changing their policies whenever they feel like it.

    All together I have around 90,000 subs.

    Methods:

    PPL

    Ad Swaps

    Facebook

    A few Solos :confused:

    Cheers!
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