The higher the price - the more money you make?

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I'm trying to figure this out...
Lets say you have a product selling for $97 (that is WORTH 97)...or you have a product selling for 497 (that is WORTH 497)...which one would you make the most money with?

Obviously, it should depends somewhat on what kind of prospects you get to look at your salespage, as well as the market you're in.

But I've heard many gurus say: "If you want to make more money, sell a higher priced item".

What are your experiences? Can you make as much money from a 97 dollar product as with a 497 dollar one (on the premise that the products are both good ones and worth their price)

Right now I'm in the spot where I have a great product for 97 dollars, but I could easily put some more really good information in there and make it into a 497 dollar home-study course with audio, video and the whole shebang. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it'll be profitable or not...
#higher #make #money #price
  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    Your price points will affect sales volume.

    Which route is better, depends upon how your target
    market respond to your specific offers and price points.

    You'll have to test these options for yourself.

    Also...

    Consider developing a sales funnel where you have a
    low-priced front-end product to get more people 'in
    the door' and then present your higher priced products
    on the back-end.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

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    • Profile picture of the author svedski
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      Your price points will affect sales volume.

      Which route is better, depends upon how your target
      market respond to your specific offers and price points.

      You'll have to test these options for yourself.

      Also...

      Consider developing a sales funnel where you have a
      low-priced front-end product to get more people 'in
      the door' and then present your higher priced products
      on the back-end.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      Of course, that's why I'm struggling to figure out which is the best.
      My thinking was that someone here has sold products at all pricepoints and could tell, with plain numbers, which product brings in the most money.
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      • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
        Originally Posted by stolpioni View Post

        My thinking was that someone here has sold products at all pricepoints and could tell, with plain numbers, which product brings in the most money.
        No one on here can possibly tell you how your market
        is likely to respond to your offers.

        Amateurs guess. Pros test.

        Dedicated to mutual success,

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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by stolpioni View Post

        The only thing I'm trying to figure out is whether or not it'll be profitable or not...
        To put it mildly, it's usually very much easier to sell a $497 product to someone who has already bought a $97 (or $197) product from/through you and been delighted with it, than it is to sell a $497 product to someone de novo.

        You're clearly talking as a vendor, but this is true for vendors and affiliates alike: as an affiliate, I can sell plenty of $97 products to people with whom I've built relationships using only the continuity-process of an autoresponder email series. I can't sell many $497 products that way (not that you need to, to make it pay?), but once people have already bought one or two products on my recommendation and not been disappointed, then it's a whole different ball-game.

        Originally Posted by stolpioni View Post

        My thinking was that someone here has sold products at all pricepoints and could tell, with plain numbers, which product brings in the most money.
        Nope ... nobody can possibly tell you that (and you'd perhaps be wise to ignore anyone who tries to - they can't know: only you can know that, by discovering it through testing and your own experience, in your own business).
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    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
      Originally Posted by Shaun OReilly View Post

      Your price points will affect sales volume.

      Which route is better, depends upon how your target
      market respond to your specific offers and price points.

      You'll have to test these options for yourself.

      Also...

      Consider developing a sales funnel where you have a
      low-priced front-end product to get more people 'in
      the door' and then present your higher priced products
      on the back-end.

      Dedicated to mutual success,

      Shaun
      This ^

      Assuming like the OP says that you have a product that is worth $97 and another that is worth $497 in most cases people don't want to "commit" with a $497 investment straight off the bat unless of course you are proven in your field.

      However if they love the $97 product and it does what you said it would do than a $497 on the backend can work well for sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author BamIPD
        Random thought. Has anyone tried this?

        Send an email for a $97 product, take the buyers of them product and send them an email a week or so later stating they owe for the 2nd half of the payment for an additional $97.

        I'm sure everyone will unsubscribe from your list, but it could be interesting to see how many people fall for it and pay up. It's extremely dishonest and is going to kill your business, but could be a fun experiment.
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        • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
          Originally Posted by BamIPD View Post

          Random thought. Has anyone tried this?

          Send an email for a $97 product, take the buyers of them product and send them an email a week or so later stating they owe for the 2nd half of the payment for an additional $97.

          I'm sure everyone will unsubscribe from your list, but it could be interesting to see how many people fall for it and pay up. It's extremely dishonest and is going to kill your business, but could be a fun experiment.
          How could doing something "extremely dishonest" and that would "kill your business" ever be a "fun experiment?" :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Veo
    I'd have to go along with Shaun on this one. Guessing is the wrong game, you have to do some testing.
    And it's true that no one here can't tell exactly how your market might respond. Also true that if high priced product is offered to the right segment of the market, they'll be as easy to sell as cheap ones.

    You should first brainstorm a bit:
    -Are there any other products being sold in your target market with bigger price tickets?
    -What do they offer that might justify the price? If there are, it means some people are willing to pay bigger bucks.
    -Who are those people?
    -How can you reach them, where do they hang out?
    -What's your email list like?
    -Would they buy higher priced products? Consider doing a survey, ask them.

    And then we get to a more in-depth issues like positioning/differentiating yourself or your brand from the competition and marketing, psychology, etc.

    Consider actually making that higher price product and offer it! What's the worst that can happen?
    Don't be afraid of failure. Fail fast, if you have to, then you'll know what to do next time. However it may sound to you right now, failure brings clarity if you're tough enough and committed.
    I failed quite a few times before finally nailed it! So have many others.

    Do your homework, research your market the best you can, and if the signs seem right, go for it!

    All the best,

    Veo
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  • Profile picture of the author 1Matthew
    I agree with Shaun and Alex above, furthermore, I suggest researching your main competitors who offer similar products or serve a similar customer set. If they currently sell to this audience at the $497 price point then you have a much better probability at that price point.

    In my experience, for new products we always look at the competitive set and price ladder of similar products that serving the target customer. Ie. if I am in selling say choc chip biscuits for $2 per packet of 10. I want to sell a box of 30 same biscuits for $4 per box. However i don't want to risk making the product unless I know there is demand for it. I will research to see whether (1) my competitors sell biscuits at a similar price point, (2) is there a value proposition that attracts my current customers to consider trading up from $2 per packet to $4 per box and (3) have I attracted a new customer by offering better value at a lower price than my nearest competitor.

    As to your profitability, that's not possible to comment without knowing your cost base.

    If no competitors then consider a market research survey to see whether they would pay $497 in return for XYZ.

    If all the above boxes are ticked then your chances of success increases. Delivering your promise is now in your hands.

    Hope this serves you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Stolpioni,

      The way I look at it, your customers are always the best judge of your products and services. Members of the forum can give you somewhat educated guesses based on their own experience, but that should never supersede your own research into your audience.

      Your customers will know what price they are willing to pay for a product, what features the product they want should have, what type of guarantee they want, what additional or follow-up products they will buy, etc. Great marketers know how to ask their customers what they want.

      As others have stated from their own experience, it might be best for you to begin selling a lower end product, one that presents little risk of loss for the customer and then add other increasingly expensive products on the back end of your funnel. You will be teaching or training your customers that they can trust you (if your products are valuable to them) to provide them with quality products at increasingly high costs.

      Hitting a stranger with a $497 product is a tough sell, in most cases. I would suggest starting low with inexpensive products and lead your customers step by step to higher priced ones. The critical key is to give them what they want and always make it a high quality offering.

      Good luck to you,

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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    The higher the Quality - the more money you make. That's it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Money
    Ultimately you have to test but the higher you charge on a quality product the more you can pay affiliates. You can also afford more in advertising cost. PPC, banners...etc
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  • Profile picture of the author Sushiman1111
    One other point: It's not an either $97/or $497 choice. Both products should be tested at various price-points ($87, $79, $109, $107, etc. for the cheaper product; $397, etc. for the more expensive one) to really see. Ref Portland's comment above.
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  • Profile picture of the author svedski
    Thanks everyone.
    I'll make it worth 1000 bucks..and try to sell it for half. If people don't buy, I'll go down to 400, 300, 200 and all the way to 97.

    In that way, everybody wins.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidAtias1
    I think that the price is not factor..
    And if so, I think that $97 product will make you more money than $497 product.
    Let me explain you why:
    Your goal is to build long term business, so it's means the real equation is:
    More Buyers = More Money
    When you got 1 buyer, you got his details(email, name,etc), now, you can sell him more than once, so you need a lot of buyers to sell them again and again and again...

    Hope you got my point,
    David
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    • Profile picture of the author jorgesil
      This has long been a concern with entrepreneurs, not just internet markets.

      As a businessperson, your goal should be the highest PROFITS.

      Profits = (#sales x price) - overhead

      Price is determined as the intersection of the supply and demand curves. The number of sales, which reflects demand, will be determined itself by the price.

      It's your job as a marketer to find that "sweet spot."

      This is why never ending split testing is so crucial in online marketing.

      For example, you might set up one test where you start out at $1000, and then decrease by a hundred or so every time they click off the page.

      And at the same time, set up another page that starts off at $300, and then gives them ONE chance to buy it for $97.

      Whichever makes you more money PER VISITOR is the winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark .W. James
    It all comes down to supply vs demand.
    factor 1 : using your method.. the customer should be able to atleast break even.
    factor 2: there is no cheaper competition out there
    factor 3: your customers have bought something cheaper from you and have liked it. i would pay $97 for a product based on reviews... i would pay $497 based only on previous experience with a seller
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    • Profile picture of the author janicej
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      Wouldn't a less expensive product be the one of choice for a larger audience? If you sell something very expensive, fewer people are likely to buy it unless you have a really good reputation.

      So if you sell a good product cheap and convince your customers that they're in for a real bargain, you might be able to make more money in the long run - especially if the product itself is a hit that will get you a lot of positive reviews. After that, you can get good sales for future products with almost any price.
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      • Profile picture of the author 1mattonline
        Agree with Shaun....

        Higher price will evect sales volume. So in theory you need more quality traffic than when selling a lower priced product. But then again it all depends on how your traffic responds to the offer.

        It may happen that your high price offer is seen by 20000 prospects and your lower price offer is only seen by 10000, and the lower price product made more money.

        It comes down to a quality product in front of targeted leads.

        No one can answer your question without testing and experience the outcome of the product.Ttesting it will give you the answer, and the knowledge to grow your sales in the future.

        Best of success to you.
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  • In my experience, it's always been easier to sell 1 unit at $497 than to sell 10 units at $47.

    Why? because, unless you're a master at traffic generation and/or affiliate JV brokering, traffic is eventually limited, and I personally find it easier to increase my product's value 10-fold than to pump my traffic 10-fold (or whatever it is).

    Furthermore, there's the leverage factor: if your product sells at $497, you can spend heavily in customer/lead acquisition (banners, Pay Per Click campaign, solo ads, Facebook ads, etc). In the other hand, if your product is priced low, you don't have that much margin and it's more difficult to breakeven on your traffic campaigns.

    Obviously, this is all assuming your conversions don't tank at $497, meaning that you can indeed provide perceived value to justify the higher price.
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  • Profile picture of the author aarthielumalai
    Well, why don't you try upselling your $497 product to your $97 customers? You could also sell the $497 product as a standalone product. This way, you'll be testing both price points and you'll know which one works better for your niche and target audience.

    For example, if your target audience is a group of people who can't afford to spend $497 on a product, but they'll buy a $97 product to help themselves, then you'll be losing a lot of customers by pricing your product at $497. So, you need to take everything into account before you make your decision, and even after that, you need to test your market and price points to confirm everything.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Originally Posted by stolpioni View Post

    Can you make as much money from a 97 dollar product as with a 497 dollar one
    Yes, you can make $400 more to be exact ($497 - $97 = $400).

    When people say to make more money sell higher priced items, what they mean is if your highest price point is $97 then that's all you can ever sell per transaction. If you have a product priced at $497 however then you now have the possibility of making sales of $497.

    Ideally a good funnel should have a number of different price points. There will be customers who only want your cheap stuff and there will be customers who want everything you have. So by only having the one price point you are limiting yourself and definitely leaving money on the table.
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