Warning to warrior newbies...

Advice paid or not can never be a guarantee of success. There are so many variable as to why a WSO might fail for you.

You still learn from failure and you need to ask if you are better informed now in spite of the product not meeting your expectation in $$$ terms.

I bought good WSO's and also bad ones! After knowing more and more people, I know that a lot of WSO's are getting produced to make money, nothing more. They are theory, but this is how it goes...

Hey there

The natural thing for a consumer to do is to look for feedback on a product before deciding to buy right? You cannot however, base your judgment on a couple of reviews. If you're new here you probably don't know this. But alot of reviews are rigged, either product owners exchange pre-made reviews or they 'force' a person to give a positive review on your product. Now, giving review copies is not the issue, integrity is. I myself give out review copies but I don't ask people to give me 'positive' reviews. I just want them to be as detailed and honest as possible.

Also let's not pretend hype = product is great. Most products that win WSO of the day are crap, let's be honest. And the only reason why they get so much views is because the thread is getting so much attention

Never experienced this before. Most WSO sellers give good support because they don't want you leaving a bad review behind or having a bad customer experience.

You need to exercise some Judgement when it comes to buying products. While I don't consider IM to be a particularly deceptive trade, I have to admit, IM'ers use keywords, bolds, highlights, exaggeration to increase product sales, you just need to be a smart consumer and don't get sucked into these kinda sales letter psychology.

Again people want to improve their sales, so they'll say no additional cost is needed. Of course some IM'ers regard 'Hosting + Domain + AR' to be 'No additional Costs'. But still..they should be upfront about it.

Is this cheating? Hmm...maybe. But what can you do about it? This is the Nature of IM. People hype things up to get people buying their products. You just need to make sure you're not the one getting cheated.

On a final Note: Just like how there are still good men in the world (Me), there are still good WSO's in this forums. I know of some WSO sellers that put their heart and soul into their product, for that Kudo's to them. You just need to keep an open eye for those kinda people

All the best mate

Caleb Prince

Most WSO's do actually have techniques in them that would work if people followed them through. Whether the person selling that information has made money or not is another story.

But let's say you bought a product about list building, you tried list building for two weeks and then gave up. Does that mean list building doesn't work? No, not at all. It means you gave up too early.

The reality is if you follow a proven plan to make money (ie one that others are already using successfully) then there is no way you can fail UNLESS you give up before you reach success. Someone who keeps on and on will always get there eventually. How long you keep trying is up to you. The average person gives up way too soon and thus the average person ends up leaving IM a few months later with empty pockets.

There are over 56,000 offers in the WSO sub-forum, of which you have purchased 2 of them.

You cannot judge a whole set of products and based on the value you received on two products, nor the value of a community of product creators based on the experience you had with only two providers.

I have purchased many WSO offers from which I found great value that I was actually able to turn into cash profits.

Now, there are definitely junk offers and junk sellers in the WSO sub-forum, but by my experience, there is a much larger percentage of good sellers advertising great products in the WSO sub-forum.

If you can learn how to separate the lumps of coal from the diamonds in the pile, you will begin to have a much better experience with products offered in the WSO sub-forum.

If you are worried about buying a product that doesn't live up to its hype, instead of avoiding the WSO section, I would only buy from reputable warriors. People that are very active here on the forum, or people that have launched massive, successful WSOs in the past.

There will always be a good amount of junk out there, but don't let that discourage you from checking out the WSO section. There are a ton of fantastic products that you will profit from if you dedicate time and effort to.

thanks to all for the advice.. will continue to work hard ..

I rarely buy make money type WSOs. Most of them are garbage.

The only type of WSOs I buy are those that help me building my online assets.

For example:
- plugins and themes for Wordpress sites which make life easier to design any type of page I want.
- Graphic packages.
- Advertising guides.
- niche PLR products for content.

Those are the types of WSOs you should buy.

What you should of done was make reviews about how you felt about those particular WSO's, on those WSO's. How can we keep it clean here when the feedback is given in 1 big thread in the main internet marketing forum? I suggest if you really feel that way, to write that as a review of the products you are talking about.

Here's my response to your 3 points:

1 - If you do not get the support which the offer states it will provide - report it to the Mods.

If you're just hoping that support will be great and it's not - then your expectation may need adjusting.

The WSO section is now just a sales marketplace and there are a LOT of people selling stuff who have no concept of support - they just blast up an offer and watch for sales.

I think you need a realistic level of expectation.

The opposite is also true - I've had people email me demands for a refund threatening action if they do not receive it within 24 hours because they think everyone is out to rip them off and won't provide a refund which is offered, and they're genuinely surprised that I happily give them an immediate refund. I don't get refund requests very often, so it's easy for me to tell if they have a genuine problem (in which case I will refund them and work out whatever their problem was) or if they're serial refunders or just purchase with a mind to refund if they don't like the product - in which case they go in my little black book.

2 - Only you can create your success and income - don't expect it to come from a WSO.

3 - Anything that does not require any investment is likely to be long term of just appealing to beginners. Expect to spend money.

Andy

ablstars, as Bill said, there are some good offers. You just need to learn how to spot them. WSOs that promise $6,782 by tonight are probably an indication that you shouldn't waste your money.

It may also be that you need to find what you LOVE, what makes you vibrate and enthusiastic, and THEN use all the techniques you've learned to share your passion and make a difference in the field/domain you love.

If you do that, people will feel the passion and buy more easily than if you just use cold-run-of-the-mill methods (even if they are proven methods).

Very few people have the "gift of selling", and by that I mean they can sell anything. Most of us need to learn selling in a context where we are passionate about what we are selling.

My 10 cents.

I'm surprised this post is still up, I have made several posts telling the truth about wso's and each time admin deletes my posts. See by posting stuff like this we make it where people do not buy wso's and admin would rather make money.

Now lets get down to business.
A few wso's will make you money.
Out of all launches 80 something odd percent sell less than 10
It's probably 90 percent sell less than 10 here.
You have to look for those wso's that have been on for a long time, Find the old ones and see alot of replies. Are people still replying and getting help in there.

I have bought a wso where and I won't say there name but they asked for a phone number, I got three calls a day and they wouldn't stop. It was paid through clickbank, I asked for a refund and in the admin panel the person can change that to tech support.
The fifth time this happened I had to contact cb directly to get my money back.

Now with all I have written I want to say as a wso creator do not give up. Just research better. I have bought wso's I have made money at. I have bought most my wso's just for research though and tips and tricks. I know you got something out of it you didn't know.

Good luck to you and hope this post is still here by the time I click post.

You've seriously drawn a conclusion as wide as that, which uses the words "never or seldom", on the basis of buying two WSO's?!

By the way, how many times does something have to happen/not happen, out of two instances, for it to be classifiable as "seldom"? Must be "once", I suppose - because anything different would be "always" or "never", when your range of options is limited to only three different outcomes?!

1. While I am sure that insta-bajillionaire internet IM exist, the only people I personally know who have made lots of money from online or offline ventures have done so because of hard work and learnings from mistakes. Each one of us just might have to go through that to make a few bucks, if we ever do. My successes have elements that I have learned here and other similar sources - and so do my numerous failures.

2. Buyer beware

3. I am open to trying some of the WSOs as they may, or may not, work... but I am learning things along the way. There is no surefire system that anybody can employ to making a million and if there were, everyone would do it.

4. Like any business OR personal venture always weigh risk vs reward in relation to your personal income and budget.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Hi Ablstars,

I'm sorry to hear that you haven't had a great experience with the WSO's here; however, you have only bought two of them. Most of us warriors here on the forum have been in the industry for years and we've all had to go through our fair share of loosing money, mistakes and disappointments before we start seeing measurable results.

I can't count the amount of money I've lost trying to figure the IM thing out, it's has to be in the thousands, possibly tens of thousands. And to be quite honest, I still loose money, make mistakes and get disappointed, even though I have nearly 8 years of experience under my belt. That's just part of the IM gamble.

If there's one thing I've learned it's that if you really want to "make it" online with IM you have to open-minded and willing to loose a bit of money. But if you stick around long enough you WILL find the pot of gold you're looking for, but it won't be over night.

You have to stick with the training and continuously practice the methods and strategies you're learning before the heavens part and money starts pouring from it.

I hope you don't give up on us though, there's still MUCH to learn here on the WF and to be quite honest, if you dig enough, most of it you can learn for absolutely free.

Purchasing a WSO just saves time and is a quicker way to get to info that's most likely already available in the threads at no cost.

You just have to choose which one you want to invest more of, your time or your money.

Ti

Here is just my experience, I have read a lot of free reports, e-books, etc. and learned so much. I have only bought 2 WSO's, the first was awesome, very good quality and support. I loved it so much I lowered my guard and bought another WSO, which wasn't the best and far more expensive than the first. So just research your butt off and you will find good and bad. I have noticed it takes a while for the $$ to roll in, and a lot of work.