I Am Totally SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!! I Might As Well Just Give Up!!

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Alright Warriors

You're going to have to bear with me because I am seriously having one of those days, where I'm thinking whats the sodding point. You Just Might As Will Give Up Completely If You Are Not Allowed To Use Paypal To Accept Payments from customers.

I was just in the process of setting up two websites, one was going to be a coaching website and another was going to be sort of a deal blog/website

My Paypal got permantly shut down two years ago. So I can never use them ever again. However alot of membership scripts, affiliate based comission compays (JVZOO) uses paypal..

I know there are merchant account but most of them wants to charge something per month to use. But as yet I don't have any members etc...

2checkout now doesn't allow you to sell ebooks/videos that you have got resale rights to..

I know I need something that will even still accept payments from people using paypal.

Btw I am based in the UK

I'm just having a nightmare at the moment.. I want to get things finally up and runnning by the weekend.. But now I'm feeling not a chance..
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  • Why not use clickbank?
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      For the same reason he can't use 2Checkout, I think: it seems he just has "resale rights" to whatever he's hoping to sell.

      You might be able to use "ClickSure", though, Byron, if you're willing to do business with them: they're based in China and seem to accept absolutely anything and everything that other networks won't touch for a variety of ethical/legal/other reasons (which may be why they've had their own PayPal account limited).Could be worth investigating, though? Good luck!
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    • I believe there is a $50 sign up fee.. Then I have heard that there fees for admin are quite high...


      Also not sure if I will be able use clickbank for my deal blog/website where I am selling products that have got master resale rights to... I know I could use it for my membership site part
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    • Hey Byron,

      I know that feeling of "I HAVE to launch my site by X date"

      Sometimes for me it is so intense, it shuts me off to "answers"

      It's like, there could be a tidal wave coming, but I've just gotta get my site "Live"

      There are ways around your situation..

      What about a paypal account using another member of your family's name..

      I recently opened a paypal account here in the UK (2 months ago) and managed
      to jump through all their hoops to get it verified so I could receive payments with no limits in 2 working days..

      Hang in there mate and NEVER give up..
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  • Are you saying your account was not only shut down but you are also permanently banned from PayPal?? Is that even possible? You can't open another account?
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      Yes - it's quite common, Joel.
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    • YES BANNED FROM PAYPAL...
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  • Byron, I think the best way is to use family members account for this reason. I personally know some people who are doing it because for one reason or another paypal have banned them.
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    • That is awful advice.

      In 99% of the cases there is always a reason why you get banned, shut down, closed, excommunicated or in any other way cast out from something. You broke the rules. tried to shortcut, game a system or simply didn't take the time to LEARN the rules and fumbled your way to a ban.

      Using someone else- specially a relative - as a workaround is pure egoism. What happens when the ban hits them by your actions? (yes it will happen again)

      This is the same mentality where people take credits on their kids because they can't get their own (for good reason).
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  • Why don't you ask someone trusted who doesn't use PayPal to create and account for you? I think you won't have any problems because of that.
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    • I asked my mum ages ago and she didn't want to know... I haven't really got any other business partners at the mo. No one else believes in what I am doing online will make money apart from my WIFE
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  • the best solution would be to create another paypal account. if there's a wheel, there's a way!
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    • Wheel??

      Are you related to this person? lol

      This is the second time today that the phrase, "If there's a will, there's a way" has been misspoken. So surreal....
    • Couldn't you form your business into an LLC and then open a business account with the business name/EIN number? That would not really be in "your" name and it would prevent a friend or family member from having your income look like their income when tax time rolls around.
  • If checkout process is your problem try using
  • You have been banned from Paypal for 2 years, but your setting up a coaching website. So if you plan on doing coaching Im going to assume that you must have been doing IM during the last 2 years right? So what have you been using? Use that. Or are you just planning on having a coaching website when you have done nothing for the last 2 years?
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  • I'm a little confused how someone who is going to offer coaching (to ANY community) cannot afford the $5-$30/mo for a merchant account?

    But anyway... I use stripe.com and it works quite well.

    Here's a little chart of the "free" (no monthly payment, processors I came up with)

    Code:
    Processor                            Percentage	                 Plus Transaction Fee
Payza (AlertPay)                   2.50%                        $0.25 
Stripe.com                           2.90%                        $0.30 
Google Checkout                   2.90%                        $0.30 
Paypal	                         2.90%                        $0.30 
RegNow (mycommerce.com)    4.90%                        $1.00 
2Checkout (2co.com)             5.50%                        $0.45 
Clickbank                             7.50%                         $1.00
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  • Just about everyone that does enough business eventually gets hit with the paypal ban. The company is borderline illegal with their business practices. However unfortunately they are still a necessity to get your full potential out of a pay website.

    I've been banned several times but that does not stop me from getting new accounts. And I do not feel one iota of guilt for doing it. Because I did not do anything wrong in the first place to deserve a ban. A Majority of their bans happen when you have a sudden influx of business. It's like an automatic software trigger, and it's complete BS. Plus when they do ban you or suspend your account, they hold your funds for up to 6 months, which in the real banking world IS illegal.

    So no, I absolutely have no problem circumventing their rules - because they circumvent the rules themselves.

    The best way to do it is to get a business license or some form of tax ID for your business. I don't know how they do it in the UK - but here in Illinois we can apply for a tax ID number online free of charge - and you can get one new one every day. Then you go to paypal and get a business account. Then you'll also have to change your physical address. There are many places online where you can rent temporary mailing addresses. And then finally you'll need to change your computer's IP address from the one that you used for your previous paypal accounts. You can usually do this by resetting your modem - but you'll have to check this on your own system.

    There are a few things they usually track to link accounts together, they are:
    -Physical Address
    -Tax ID number
    -IP Address
    -Any credit cards or bank accounts linked to the account

    Right now I'm on my 4th paypal account and this one has been going strong now for probably 5 years. It's a pain in the rear, but you learn to live with it.
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    • Heres an idea, Use cryptocurrencys No chargebacks , No being banned
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  • After reading this thread, I seriously hope you reconsider offering "coaching" when you don't even have $50 to open a Clickbank account.

    Save up $50, open a Clickbank account, sell some of your products and once you've made a few hundred thousand you could consider offering coaching. I know the WF mentality is for any idiot to create a "product" but it's not a good idea to charge people for coaching if you can't even figure out how to process payments.
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    • Clickbank is for the membership site only.. What about the deal site???
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  • ok I might be able to use clickbank for the membership site one.. But what about the deal website that I was thinking about doing??
  • It's really easy to get another or multiple paypal account - all you need is a new bank account coop etc, a new email address and a new mobile telephone number.

    I found that I needed a new account when I got scammed on ebay and it was not difficult to setup first I got the new ebay account and then I got the new paypal account.

    Kind regards
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    • My wife has already got an account at the same address which is currently unverified.. If I upgraded it to business what will happen then? Will paypal shut it because of my account??

      At the moment we are only buying stuff not selling anything
  • why are u so bent on resale rights ebooks then? How about creating a brand new ebook from scratch?
  • Can you incorporate your business and open a new Paypal account that way?
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    Byron,


    You can use Wepay.com - the SAME exact thing as paypal and works better in my opinion or payza.com


    These are both wonderful alternatives.


    Less fees, and faster withdralwls half the time.
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    • I just come across eway which is a merchant account
  • I'm curious what you did that got you banned from PayPal in the first place.
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    • There is a lot of reason why you can get banned from paypal whether good or bad.....
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  • For the past two years I have been doing other things than concertrating online. I have been a full time career for my dad who had cancer that's all
  • No worries Everything got put on the back burner as the say goings.. But now I'm trying to get back into things and back up and running
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    • I'm not confused at all. Here's what you said that landed you on my shit list...

      It doesn't matter whether you were planning to do so or not. The fact that you see nothing wrong with it is where we part ways permanently.
  • If you are serious about making money, you should know that you need to spend money to make money.

    You say that people get banned from PayPal all the time for various reasons. True. However, many people who get Limited get limited because they will not prove who they are to Paypal. Most people who get banned for life present a serious threat of fraud or financial loss to PayPal.

    I want to give you the benefit of a doubt, but it seems hard to do with what you have so far presented. Exactly what kind of coaching do you plan on offering to people? And, are you qualified to offer that kind of coaching?
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    • Bill

      I know exactly where you are coming from, you need money to spend money.. I fully understand and respect that.. But people do not have unlimited funds to spend.... If you're going to give me a lecture then maybe chose another day Not in the mood for it...

      If you are here to advise what payment processor there is then that's fine....
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  • I second using Clickbank. I use it for my membership site and it works great! The fees are similar to those charged by PayPal and Clickbank has really cleaned up their image.

    The $50 is a one time fee (if you do a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc account there is a discount) and it's worth it as they handle all the tax info, pay the affiliates, and deposit directly to your bank account each week (if you set up direct deposit).

    If you are banned from PayPal - then CB kinda feels like your best option.

    Cheers,
    Coby
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  • Have you looked into Google Checkout, Payza or any of the other payment processors?

    There are plenty out there, and using Google Checkout won't ruin your reputation like some others may. How about a JVZoo or WarriorPlus button?

    If none of the other options to process payments work for you, then get another account.

    What would you tell a client if they said they're trying to sell products but their paypal account got shut down? Follow that same advice.
  • Can you have a family member or spouse sign up for Paypal for you and use their account? Have you looked into Google Check Out, Nochex, Pro Pay, or Shrill? These are ones I have heard of people using. Good luck!

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    • Google checkout is changing over to something else, correct??
  • OP, I say you should give up mate.. this game isn't for you.

    ^ My advice
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    • Well that might be your advice but I am definately not going to give up.. Where there's a will there's a way!!
  • You might as well because their will always be obstacles..
  • Why is this thread even this long?

    The answer is simple:

    1. Use friend or relative to open account under their name (and geez don't f#(% them over)
    2. Incorporate your business (cheap in most countries) and get a business account.

    /thread.
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    • My wifes already got an account but it's unverified.. All my concern is that once we go ahead and get it verified and then upgraded to business account.. If there will be any issues at all
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  • PayPal stealth. Problem solved.
  • I use payoneer beside paypal. With that card I can withdraw my money in any atm. It has credit card payout method , check payout method, very cool. =)
  • Seriously OP just give up, this isn't for you, you do not have what it takes. This much is evident from this whole pathetic, whiny, topic.
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    • Thankyou. Glad it weren't just me.

      Too many excuses, and blaming of external factors.. The phrase 'Nut up, or shut up' comes to mind.
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  • Losers give up, winners keep going.
  • Go punch a tree. Go for a walk. Take a day off. Get some sleep and by tomorrow you will be ready to get back into the battle.
  • Hey buddy, also in the uk, so seems like your saying that Paypal shut you down... best alternative right now is to find a friend business partner in the uk that has a Paypal that you can negotiate terms with and from there you will be good to go... please message me if you need any more advice
  • What you need is a friend that has an active pay pal account to get you going. Make friends and become more social in your arena. Also, get motivated right now. Read the book:
    Timid Salesmen Have Skinny Kids!
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    Try ClickBank? Don't worry, I'm sure there are solutions. Like someone suggested before, maybe aks somebody else close to you to open a PayPal account that you can use to receive your payments from customers.
  • Wanted to chime in quickly and say that I think you should consider the advice to at first launch a Clickbank product of your own while you are figuring out how to get another Verified Paypal account. You have to keep moving forward regardless of Paypal I also would suggest looking at Clicksure as well but they are not as good a platform as Clickbank. It is always preferable to own and sell your OWN products and not as difficult as you think! Also, if you haven't already done this, put together a written business and marketing plan complete with milestones, budgets, goals, strategies, etc. PM me if you would like an outline of successful ones I have done as an example Good luck!
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    • Just wondering if that's legal or not??
  • Have you considered using Authorize.net? They're a pretty solid merchant account.
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    • Just speaking to them now, and they advise me that I do need a merchant account to use them...
  • To get another Paypal account, use another business license/entity/ban account or partner with a friend, business partner, relative, or family member. Of course, they should be trustworthy and you need to explain your business to them. You may even want to offer them a percentage of your profits.
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    • Just actually sorting things out with autorize.net
  • Make sure to read their terms of service, then try and stay in the game.
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