Idea: Warrior Could Make $200,000 With Just One WSO

by DAC1
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Here's an idea for one of you techy WSO people which could make you lots of money, fast... i'd pay $100 for it, no problem... even $500!

Can someone please create this tool! Wish list;
  • Outcome: A tool that can 'de-link' all previous paid links to my website that caused me to loose rankings?
  • If the tool could detect all links from other sites (I know there are tools that do this part),
  • Then the tool will somehow be programmed to show google bots it's a dead link, or if the software could somehow 'deflect' the bot so it's not associated with my website
  • A dropdown list do uncheck the sites I want to keep links from.

I probably haven't explained this idea overly well, and maybe a tool like this already exists, but i'm 110% sure it would be a best seller for someone who creates it! I'm in!
#$200 #makes #warrior #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
    Why don't you just develop it yourself? Hire a programmer from www.odesk.com and sell it on the forum. I think you can make a lot of money with it .
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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    You cannot create this tool. Here is why:

    "De-linking" would mean having access to all the hosting accounts of the people who linked to you. Since that's not going to happen the tool can't be made.

    Also, your thread title is switch and bait. I really wish the mods would close it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Saul
    isn't this going backwards?

    Are you saying you'd like to have a tool that will go on other people's pages and modify *their* page? Just because you don't like their links? Isn't that kind of a hacky hack hack thing?

    If I had a page with links to your site I would not like you to decide that you don't like them - and therefore somehow get in my page to modify my links... lol, it doesn't work that way, you can't have a software that legally goes on other people's website to modify their links!

    On the other hand, if it's links on your own page, going outwards, that you need to modify well yes, the software already exists and it's called an html editor ;-)

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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
    Originally Posted by DAC1 View Post

    Here's an idea for one of you techy WSO people which could make you lots of money, fast... i'd pay $100 for it, no problem... even $500!

    Can someone please create this tool! Wish list;
    • Outcome: A tool that can 'de-link' all previous paid links to my website that caused me to loose rankings?
    • If the tool could detect all links from other sites (I know there are tools that do this part),
    • Then the tool will somehow be programmed to show google bots it's a dead link, or if the software could somehow 'deflect' the bot so it's not associated with my website
    • A dropdown list do uncheck the sites I want to keep links from.

    I probably haven't explained this idea overly well, and maybe a tool like this already exists, but i'm 110% sure it would be a best seller for someone who creates it! I'm in!
    The software sounds nice but the execution would be problematic.
    • Outcome: A tool that can 'de-link' all previous paid links to my website that caused me to loose rankings?

      Auto de-link? Not possible if you don't own the site that host those links.
    • If the tool could detect all links from other sites (I know there are tools that do this part),

      Detecting the link is easy. A bot/script could crawl (much like Google's Bot) for all inbound links. The script could also match its own generated list against Google's links. It could then form a list of links that need removed.
    • Then the tool will somehow be programmed to show google bots it's a dead link, or if the software could somehow 'deflect' the bot so it's not associated with my website

      This is the problematic part. You're asking for someone to program a script that essentially changes Google or changes a 3rd party site. This is impossible (well, minus 'hacking')

      You don't own Google's data. They do. Because of this, you also are at their mercy to what they decide to list/keep. This also means you don't have access to change it. You can make outside changes (i'll get into that below) and hope Google picks up and ACCEPTS the changes you've given... but again you're at their mercy (if they decide, to, ignore your changes... tough luck).

      Changing a 3rd party site is just as problematic. A link on a site is essentially part of the content of that site. What you're asking to do is have the ability to change content on any site on the internet. Can you see the issue here? Obviously this isn't possible.

    • A dropdown list do uncheck the sites I want to keep links from.

      Thats a simple "script" feature and not hard to program (hypothetically assuming the REST of the script works)

    So you can't delete links off of Google or off of 3rd party sites. We've established that. You could petition Google to not hold value to certain links... but if you have a low-ranking site (not in the top 500,000) and don't spend a crap load in adwords ($5k+ a month) don't expect to have access to a Google Rep that will even be able to put through your request. When big sites (like Amazon, JC Penny, Wikipedia) have linking issues (because of malicious inbound links) they can work with their personal Google Rep to filter the links. Google's process even has a built in automation filter to try and filter out "bad" links for these higher ranking sites. This is all to keep the integrity of Google's search.

    You and I are small fish. They don't care about our sites. And since we are the "internet marketing" community... they care even less. Can we get Google to take out bad links to our sites? Unlikely. Again, remember... Google is in the business of providing the best search experience for their users. Sales letter type sites aren't a high priority to them.

    What you CAN do is change your domain/URL. This sucks, I know... but it'll "start over" your site. Because you, at some point in time... decided to "game the system" (Google's opinion) by getting as many back links as possible... they are penalizing you for it now. If they took so much effort to FIX their results to keep your site out (because you "gamed" the system). Why do you think they'd try to make it easy for you to "FIX" your site? Hell... forget easy... why do you think they'd try to LET YOU AT ALL "FIX" your site? You are a black mark to them, and as far as their concerned always will be.

    So maybe starting over is the best solution? Always play it fair. No black-hat/gray-hat techniques. Optimize your site in ways Google officially supports. Keep your site W3C valid, etc. (NOTE: Google never officially supported or backed "get as many back links as you can")

    Another option you have is to "control" your inbound links. Now... this is a little tricky because:
    A) Requires a script to run on your site
    B) Google may or may not decide to follow the script and link accordingly

    What this option would do is route inbound links to whatever page you wanted. You could even do a 301 redirect (but they'd most likely keep the link you use and not update in the future).

    What would this script do?

    Well let me give an example:
    Lets say you have www.domain.com as a site. When you do link-building you give out www.domain.com/ref.php?id=1 as the link to your site and NOT www.domain.com

    What ref.php can do is 'redirect' (using PHP's header command) to any site you want. So then you "Control" your inbound links.

    So lets say two years ago you linked www.domain.com/ref.php?id=1 and it redirects to www.domain.com but now you want to update those links. Rather than contacting every site owner to change the link... you could update the script to go to www.domain2.com or whatever. Google would, hopefully, follow the new link.




    One other option you could have in this situation is to create software/a script that gets all the inbound links (as I described earlier) then sends an automated email to each webmaster (an email gathered from their web site, or if none are found... gathered from their WHOIS record). Note this wont work for every site because email addresses in WHOIS records are sometimes hidden/protected. Also you'd be at the mercy of the site owner to update/change the link. Maybe they will/maybe they wont. But this is probably your best case scenario minus "controlling" your inbound links like I showed above.






    Lastly, There is mod_rewrite (for Apache) that you could also use to redirect based on the referring URL. Maybe try redirecting "bad" referrals to Google? But again... this is all hoping Google will pick up the new link/referral correctly and de-link/re-link.


    Because of all these unknowns and "hoping" Google takes note of your changes.... SEO is done manually. SEO isn't done manually because people don't know HOW to script things to automate (hell even the things that CAN be automated ARE). But sometimes you need human interaction. Sometimes de-linking will work a certain way... other times it wont. Sometimes there is simply trial and error. Other times it could take months of effort to get one link off. That is why SEO services are in such high demand. It CAN be a daunting task. Remember how I talked earlier about how much Google HATES gaming the system with back-links? Well that was done automated a lot of the times right? So Google would equally hate an automated process to fix black-marked sites that engaged in mass back-links before. Right?

    There are probably over 100 ways someone can fix a link or delink a link. Some require human emails, calls, etc. Because of this the process can never be done 100% effective in a script.
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    • Profile picture of the author DAC1
      Hi Brian,

      Very detailed response... thanks.

      So... starting a new site would be the logical option by the sounds of your reply. A couple of questions for you or anyone;

      1) Does the age of a domain play a part in website rankings?
      2) My current site has over 200 posts on the same topic (building inspections), so to save myself trying to think up a bunch of new content for the new site, do you think it's a good idea to 're-word' the current post and even amalgamate some of the shorter posts into longer ones, then just put new titles to give them a fresh look in Google's eyes?

      Anyone tested this?
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      • Profile picture of the author GyuMan82
        Originally Posted by DAC1 View Post

        Hi Brian,

        Very detailed response... thanks.

        So... starting a new site would be the logical option by the sounds of your reply. A couple of questions for you or anyone;

        1) Does the age of a domain play a part in website rankings?
        2) My current site has over 200 posts on the same topic (building inspections), so to save myself trying to think up a bunch of new content for the new site, do you think it's a good idea to 're-word' the current post and even amalgamate some of the shorter posts into longer ones, then just put new titles to give them a fresh look in Google's eyes?

        Anyone tested this?
        1. First the tool in the OP could never be built because you would need access to data you will never have (ie site logins etc)

        With regards to your questions:

        1. Age is a ranking factor in Google (older the better)
        2. "re-wording" the content won't do much because for the most part the content would be the same, and the url would be the same (ie no new page created)

        You would probably spend just as much time "re-wording" as writing fresh stuff, so just find new stuff to write about.
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        • Profile picture of the author DAC1
          Going back to this 'million dollar' WSO idea...

          Is there a way (like a plugin for wordpress) where you can list all the sites with incoming links to your site... then somehow block/reject any reference from that site, or that IP address etc?

          Is there any hope in this thought?

          Also, my site traffic dropped with this update:
          http://www.seroundtable.com/google-panda-20-15789.html

          Did anyone else get 'slammed' around 27th September 2012? Would love to know how you recovered!

          And then you read this:
          Google has taken a strong stance on mobile SEO, announcing there will be demotions if your site is not mobile friendly or is misconfigured when it comes to being mobile friendly. (Source: Same website as above).

          It's becoming crazy how much work is now required to have a website that ranks well... it's certainly flushed out part timers who used to make money. Fair enough I guess for quality of search results.
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    • Profile picture of the author sscot
      Originally Posted by Brian Tayler View Post


      Auto de-link? Not possible if you don't own the site that host those links.
      Hi Brian, I can develop a software for this part. The software will be spamming the link you want to de-link, till it removes by the admin of third party site.

      Problem solved...
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeMack
    Going back to this 'million dollar' WSO idea...
    Seriously, this ISN'T a milliona dollar idea. You can't create a software to make it happen. The alternative would be to hire someone to take the actions you are wanting.

    And yes, the title of this thread is bait and switch. Poor taste in my opinion.

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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    How did you get all of those links to your website in the first place?
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      As others have noted, it's impossible.

      In fairness, I guess you know that though, otherwise there would be no reason for you not to venture out and do it yourself.

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