Newbie Formula -will it work

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hello guys l just joined the forum and my head is spinning already with plenty of great info, really trying hard to avoid the info overload state. l have been trying to make money online for a while now but have not made a cent. l recently tried my hands on direct linking ads to fat loss factor and tao of badass l started with $50 dollars now there is just $10 left.l closed all the campaigns and am trying something else.this is what l am doing right now.
l put up a blog Insurance Guide. l post articles from article directories to it with the backlink to the original source.l just ping and bookmark it hoping to get some amount of traffic and running ppc ads (not adsense since it will take a lot of time to get approved).

my questions are
is this a good idea/will it work.
if it will please suggest some other methods of getting targeted traffic and things to improve the blog in terms of seo.
if you think it wont you could suggest another strategy that l can work that will pay.




these are my available resources
desperation
6 hours of work time
a domain name-
autoresponder
3 approved articles on articlebase
and ..thanks ahead guys
#formula #newbie #newbie help #ppc #work
  • Profile picture of the author ClearSolution
    With resources like that, I think you need to make a plan and expect some income 60 or 90 days from now. Winging it and hoping money will come from any ol' report will never work. Just take a course and stick with it for a while.
    Your plan should also include PAYING for certain things like traffic. Not now, of course, but if you ever expect real success, you will ultimately have to come out of pocket to feed your business .
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  • Profile picture of the author HansDavid
    Looks like you are not really familiar with web design.

    If I may, suggest, try to invest $147 for a niche-web design. There is web designer in the WSO section named Verena. She's very professional and can design awesome niche websites in a week. She also provides unique content based on your keywords. I am one of her satisfied customers therefore I recommend her.

    If you have no idea about how to build a website and the technical stuffs, outsource. If you try to do it on your own, then you will waste time and energy.

    To be blunt, you need at least $800 to kick start an internet business. This is for building website, buying necessary tools, outsourcing and getting paid traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author redfinger
      l know html 5 and css3 ..presently learning php and mysql..
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  • It's normal to be frustrated because at first there is a lot to read. I would suggest reading more on different income streams, seeing what interests you. It's absolutely normal to dish out money in the beginning because you see first hand what works and what doesn't. When something doesn't work you start asking the right questions (hence this post).

    For your blog you need to look into how to get traffic to it. Look for free traffic sources first that's targeted. How are you currently monetizing from your site? How do you plan on monetizing from your site? Are you a consultant, a professional in the field? Maybe you should look into building a list, and try and scale it to 5000+. You can make good money on that in several ways. Maybe look into offering a free eBook or something of value to make people join.

    Personally the blog is dull, you have many grammar mistakes and don't even capitalize on your words after a sentence which makes you lose credibility. Not attacking you but this does drop your visitors. You also want to make the look more appealing, look into websites that convert or retain visitors and see what they do. Check out websites with low bounce rate.

    There's still a lot to learn, but you need to have patience. This is key, if you come here looking to get to point C and you haven't even got to point A you will be like the rest of people looking to make money online but haven't found a way for the past 3 years and get frustrated.

    I think you're asking the right questions. Keep being resilient and you'll find what you're looking for.

    Best,

    Kefka
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    • Profile picture of the author redfinger
      Originally Posted by Kefka View Post

      It's normal to be frustrated because at first there is a lot to read. I would suggest reading more on different income streams, seeing what interests you. It's absolutely normal to dish out money in the beginning because you see first hand what works and what doesn't. When something doesn't work you start asking the right questions (hence this post).

      For your blog you need to look into how to get traffic to it. Look for free traffic sources first that's targeted. How are you currently monetizing from your site? How do you plan on monetizing from your site? Are you a consultant, a professional in the field? Maybe you should look into building a list, and try and scale it to 5000+. You can make good money on that in several ways. Maybe look into offering a free eBook or something of value to make people join.

      Personally the blog is dull, you have many grammar mistakes and don't even capitalize on your words after a sentence which makes you lose credibility. Not attacking you but this does drop your visitors. You also want to make the look more appealing, look into websites that convert or retain visitors and see what they do. Check out websites with low bounce rate.

      There's still a lot to learn, but you need to have patience. This is key, if you come here looking to get to point C and you haven't even got to point A you will be like the rest of people looking to make money online but haven't found a way for the past 3 years and get frustrated.

      I think you're asking the right questions. Keep being resilient and you'll find what you're looking for.

      Best,

      Kefka
      thanks. l think l will work on the blog for now while l expand my knowledge in im and webdesign. l do enjoy coding
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      • Profile picture of the author redfinger
        thanks guys..from your response l have learnt a lot..in summary l need
        a plan
        patience
        study time

        l think l will work on my blog...lts obvious l have to redecorate and watch my content.

        my next question how do l get targeted traffic to my blogs and someone please tell me how to thank someone cos l want to thank you guys and cant find the thank you buttonnn!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    I see lack of confidence in your post, A drought of it.

    Your problem: You're changing money making streams very quickly before getting the profits. How will you make money if you keep the work half done, Where is the patience?

    see?
    l recently tried my hands on....
    And made no money.
    .l closed all the campaigns and am trying something else
    if you think it wont you could suggest another strategy that l can work that will pay.
    You don't expect anything from this method too?

    I will highly recommend you to stick on one process at a time. Don't get confused. just pick up the easy one, of your interest and start working on it until you get success.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author robbiestone
      I agree with the guys above, you have changed industries already and coming across as trying to throw mud at the wall until it sticks.. but! it's very common and was there myself.

      Really have a think about what you enjoy or what area you can see yourself writing about and not getting bored. Investing $50 thesedays in PPC won't get you far so look at creating an authority site and ranking it naturally, rather than spending money it looks like you don't have at the moment.

      Take time, it's a business not a quick fix

      These are things you will and are learning about, we have all made mistakes ourselves or learnt from the wrong direction. It's part of the learning curve until you do find your feet.

      Back in 2007 my string of mistakes were

      - Changing my mind constantly on what niche to go into
      - Registering way to many domains, hosting which all adds up. In my first year online with SEO i racked up $1500 in costs due to this
      - Wondering if a niche will make money .. if products are sold in the niche, they it will be profitable. It just depends on time, work and how much competition

      All my issues made me much more wiser and the same with the others here. You then find your feet and produce something profitable.

      Sorry for the long post but the first few decisions on where you are going online can be the most important

      Oh and your insurance blog does need a overhaul, your http://insuranceteller.blogspot.com/...urance_10.html post for example has no lines between paragraphs and can look spammy.

      Get some carriage returns inbetween paragraphs to make it look much smarter and easier to read.

      Patience is the key big time in online marketing as the others have mentioned

      Robbie
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  • Profile picture of the author HansDavid
    If you are good with web design, then design some awesome templates for 5 or 10 niches and sell them. This is much more profitable for you too.
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi Redfinger,

    1. Get into a HUGE NICHE with plenty of buyers

    2. BUILD A LIST around that niche

    3. Get them onto your list by offering something FREE that is high in demand
    and is of high quality and is useful

    4. Offer paid products at the back end of your sales funnel

    5. Offer recurring paying products that pay YOU every month
    into your sales funnel.

    Keep building your email list, add products to your funnel, test,
    tweak until you see GREATER CONVERSIONS from your traffic.

    Testing is everything!

    Test your squeeze page, test different price points on your sales pages,
    test your email messages.

    TEST, TEST, TEST!

    Sorry that this isn't anything you were originally looking at but it will
    save you months of frustration of finally figuring out that building
    a list in a spending niche is the way to go.

    Learn as much as you can about list building and creating products
    as you can my friend.

    You are at the right place for that!

    Have a great Friday.
    Regards
    Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    To win with any form of marketing or traffic generation, you need one of two things: Money or time.

    If you have TIME to do the tedious B.S. like research, design, link development, etc. and can understand how search engines "think" you can make as much money as you want. It's a long road, and you will go through a lot of trial and error - mostly error - but you will learn a lot and in a couple years what's currently daunting will seem simple.

    Or, you can save up a real budget - $50 isn't enough - and pay someone to do all of that crap for you. You can pay developers, you can pay marketers, you can pay strategists, and let them figure out the details.

    Most of us started with a lot of time and not a lot of money, and if we were successful we ended up with a lot of money and not a lot of time. In the 15 years I've been doing this, there are a few things I've learned:

    1. There is no magic formula that you just "haven't figured out yet". None.

    2. The people who seem to make money today without doing any work had to do a lot of work to get there.

    3. Everyone who is "known" in their field was once an unknown. No one "got lucky" - they took deliberate action to become successful.

    4. The people who can make $20K in an afternoon by sending out an email didn't get that list from crap resources like Fiverr, 7search, etc. and they didn't do it by giving away PLR content. They built it by offering something of value.

    5. It's OK to quit. All the time you see people saying crap like "Never give up!" - it's B.S. Not all strategies will work. Not all strategies that worked for someone else will work for you. You have to know when to fold.

    6. Learn how to budget - both your time and your money. Allocate a certain amount of money to promoting something new, and stick with that amount no matter how well or poorly it does. It should be at least $1,000 worth of marketing dollars (for reference, my own test marketing campaigns are no less than $10K). But whatever that budget is, stay the course until you've spent it all and review your results. If you did well, repeat it. If you did poorly, you'll understand why.

    7. Don't spread your marketing budget out too thin, you won't get enough data to understand why it didn't work. If you take $1,000 and allocate it to one source, you will know whether that source is a good or bad investment by the time you've spent through it. If you split it up among 5 or 6 different ad sources, you aren't giving any of them enough of a chance to know if their traffic converts. You'll lose it all.

    8. Multivariate Test the shit out of everything. Buyers from different traffic sources convert differently for different reasons. A person on Facebook is in a completely different mindset than a person searching on Google, so a page that converts well for one source of traffic may perform horribly for another source. Test different sales copy, different colors and styles, different placement of elements on a page. You'll be surprised how the most insignificant things, like the color of a button or whether a logo is on the left or the right, can affect the conversion rates of your pages.

    9. Track and measure everything. You need to be able to understand your data - take a course in Google Analytics if you need to. Click data only shows you what you're doing "right", you need to understand where people aren't clicking and why.

    10. Visit the WSO section, but do it ONLY to LOOK. You don't know what you want yet, and you will be mesmerized by wordsmiths like me who know how to get inside your head and make you buy something. DON'T buy anything. But DO read the sales pages - when you see one that makes you want to buy it, stop. Analyze the words, the phrasing, the color scheme, the use of bold and highlighted text. Understand what it's doing and why it works, then follow the same method on your own pages. All of the SEO, marketing, etc. in the world is no substitute for good copywriting.
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    • Profile picture of the author john01bohan
      To win with any form of marketing or traffic generation, you need one of two things: Money or time.
      I agree with this.

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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    I took a look at your site, and maybe I'm missing something.... where's the monetization method?

    I see you're posting articles, but what's your plan to make money?

    You'll never make any money is you aren't monetizing your site. The insurance niche pays big money for adsense clicks... you should have adsense optimized all over the place on that blog.

    Can you make money with it, sure. Will you without trying to? Never.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Pillay
    You gotta put a lot of energy into appearance dude. Even if you have great content, you people are gonna leave if your site is an eyesore
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  • Profile picture of the author ericando12
    The best strategy is :
    Find a longtail keywords
    write usefull article about it,ping it
    Before you must have a professional design for your website to attract more buyers.
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    • Profile picture of the author redfinger
      wow..l feel like a million dollars already...okay l am really high right now all love..thanks guys..still no body told me how to say thank you...am gonna save this page on my system..definately
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      • Profile picture of the author Meharis
        Originally Posted by redfinger View Post

        wow..l feel like a million dollars already...okay l am really high right now all love..thanks guys..still no body told me how to say thank you...am gonna save this page on my system..definately

        redfinger,

        "no body told me how to say thank you..."

        You can press the button that says "Thanks" in each of the answers that helped you.

        Meharis
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

          redfinger,

          "no body told me how to say thank you..."

          You can press the button that says "Thanks" in each of the answers that helped you.

          Meharis
          The thing is, you don't get a thank you button to push until you reach 5 posts. He has reached that now, but hadn't before.

          Terra
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          • Profile picture of the author Meharis
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            The thing is, you don't get a thank you button to push until you reach 5 posts. He has reached that now, but hadn't before.

            Terra

            Thank You, Terra,

            Honestly, I didn't realize the 5 post.
            My true intention was showing him how to do it.

            Meharis
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            • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
              Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

              Thank You, Terra,

              Honestly, I didn't realize the 5 post.
              My true intention was showing him how to do it.

              Meharis
              I didn't think otherwise, I just didn't want him to become confused when he didn't have one.

              Terra
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        • Profile picture of the author redfinger
          Originally Posted by Meharis View Post

          redfinger,

          "no body told me how to say thank you..."

          You can press the button that says "Thanks" in each of the answers that helped you.

          Meharis
          Lol..now l see it.thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author ShutupAndEarn
    I just tried going to your link (http://insuranceteller.blogspot.com/) and am getting a "blog not found".

    I hope they did not ban your account?
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    • Profile picture of the author redfinger
      Originally Posted by ShutupAndEarn View Post

      I just tried going to your link (http://insuranceteller.blogspot.com/) and am getting a "blog not found".

      I hope they did not ban your account?
      l tried experimenting with cpaleads by adding their widgets on my insuranceteller.blogspot.com following a video l saw on their site and zam my blog was gone ...it was like someone from their office waived a magic wand it the blog just ran faster than olsen bolt...l put up a better one it here Insurance Facts ..please tell me comment on-

      -the interior decor
      - better seo improvements
      -one method of getting traffic
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      • Profile picture of the author redfinger
        l want to say thank you to every one for their mentorship..but something interesting came up today.. my former blog broke up with mee l was testing
        a widget from cpalead on the blog to see how it would work and it just left without saying gooodbye...so l put up another one Insurance Facts.

        why did my blog leave and l want to know if you owned my blog which traffic technique will you use..thanks again
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by redfinger View Post

          why did my blog leave
          You unwisely hosted it at Blogger.

          There are only really four (partly overlapping) groups of people (in "internet marketing") who use Blogger ...

          (i) People who are unaware of the unnecessary risks

          (ii) People who imagine that those risks are all problems that happen "only to other people" and that they'll be ok "if they stick to the terms of service" (this is nonsense but a lot of people believe it )

          (iii) People who don't know that you can have your own reliably self-hosted WordPress blogs without even paying anyone a penny for the blog, the theme or the hosting

          (iv) Very few people who still imagine that "they must rank well because Google owns Blogger" (seriously, there are still a few people who believe that - it's also nonsense).

          Google Suspended My Innocuous Blogger Blog
          Squidoo/Blogger as primary website
          Blogger and deleted blogs?
          Blogger blog removed
          Wow Blogger Deemed All My Hard Work Spam
          Is blogger blogs worthy?
          have blogspot energy?
          is Wordpress really a better choice than Blogger in my case?
          Blogger Hosting...Is that ok??
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          • Profile picture of the author 2ndopkate
            Ah well, the Blogger exercise gave you some experience working with a blogging template, but Alexa's right. Don't count on it as your main blogging platform. There are tons of places you can get free WordPress tutorials so I would spend a few hours learning the basics or a WP installation, setup and admin.

            After that, start collecting a series of WF posts you consider the most helpful on a topic you find interesting. When someone asks a question about one of those topics, just post a link back to it. You'll build a reputation as an expert and a helper. Eventually you'll have a legion of fans simply by providing access to helpful posts.
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            • Profile picture of the author FelixFuturi
              Originally Posted by 2ndopkate View Post

              Ah well, the Blogger exercise gave you some experience working with a blogging template, but Alexa's right. Don't count on it as your main blogging platform. There are tons of places you can get free WordPress tutorials so I would spend a few hours learning the basics or a WP installation, setup and admin.

              After that, start collecting a series of WF posts you consider the most helpful on a topic you find interesting. When someone asks a question about one of those topics, just post a link back to it. You'll build a reputation as an expert and a helper. Eventually you'll have a legion of fans simply by providing access to helpful posts.
              Now that is helpful! ::: clap ::: clap :::
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            • Profile picture of the author redfinger
              Originally Posted by 2ndopkate View Post

              Ah well, the Blogger exercise gave you some experience working with a blogging template, but Alexa's right. Don't count on it as your main blogging platform. There are tons of places you can get free WordPress tutorials so I would spend a few hours learning the basics or a WP installation, setup and admin.

              After that, start collecting a series of WF posts you consider the most helpful on a topic you find interesting. When someone asks a question about one of those topics, just post a link back to it. You'll build a reputation as an expert and a helper. Eventually you'll have a legion of fans simply by providing access to helpful posts.
              great idea but l already just started this blog l can't be jumping around on different ideas and word press does not allow you to add ppc on your blog and that is the aim of this blog to make my first dollar using ppc
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              • Profile picture of the author trayvonsghost
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                • Profile picture of the author redfinger
                  Originally Posted by trayvonsghost View Post

                  You need to jump to a different idea cuz you ain't gettin' nowhere in the insurance niche. It's one of the most competitive markets around and you don't even know what you're doing, lol. You flying blind right now and that ain't gonna work.

                  Go to Niche Site Project 1 Overview | Niche Pursuits and follow dat case study. It's free and it will get you on da right track, dawg. And don't be hatin' and ignore what I say, cuz ima get you da right path. You feel me?
                  l am checking out the site now.what am doing with the insurance blog is just posting articles l think is of great help.later on l intend to add ppc and keep posting interesting articles.are u saying it won't work.
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          • Profile picture of the author redfinger
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            You unwisely hosted it at Blogger.

            There are only really four (partly overlapping) groups of people (in "internet marketing") who use Blogger ...

            (i) People who are unaware of the unnecessary risks

            (ii) People who imagine that those risks are all problems that happen "only to other people" and that they'll be ok "if they stick to the terms of service" (this is nonsense but a lot of people believe it )

            (iii) People who don't know that you can have your own reliably self-hosted WordPress blogs without even paying anyone a penny for the blog, the theme or the hosting

            (iv) Very few people who still imagine that "they must rank well because Google owns Blogger" (seriously, there are still a few people who believe that - it's also nonsense).

            Google Suspended My Innocuous Blogger Blog
            Squidoo/Blogger as primary website
            Blogger and deleted blogs?
            Blogger blog removed
            Wow Blogger Deemed All My Hard Work Spam
            Is blogger blogs worthy?
            have blogspot energy?
            is Wordpress really a better choice than Blogger in my case?
            Blogger Hosting...Is that ok??
            which free hosting do you think l can use..l just check out biz.nf and 00webhost..any suggestions cos l dont want to start again
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by redfinger View Post

              which free hosting do you think l can use..l just check out biz.nf and 00webhost..any suggestions cos l dont want to start again
              Of the ones I know about, I think the best, longest-established, safest and most reliable is probably Byethost. The only "difficulty" I know about there is that you need to install WordPress manually rather than with a one-click installation. However, this isn't really a problem, because it's more secure than installing it with one click, anyway.

              Second choice perhaps Freehostia?

              Then maybe 000WebHost?

              There are others, but those three are well-known, well established and don't put any of their own ads/buttons on your sites, anyway. (And all three of them will give you a free subdomain just like Blogger will, though owning your own domain-name, not registered through the hosting company, is much better).

              If you don't ever want to have to move again, I would perhaps look at Byethost. I know professional marketers who have hosted there successfully for years, having started with their free hosting. You can upgrade there in future and not need to move, perhaps? Many people do ...

              (I've never hosted with any of them, myself. This is all second-hand information.)
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  • Profile picture of the author TallGuyArman
    In my opinion, I would get focused on only one niche for now, and stay consistent in your blogging, marketing, prospecting etc.. The real formula to your success is hard work, consistency, determination, and motivation.
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  • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
    The best place to start off online is ALWAYS a marketplace such as Ebay or Fiverr. All the marketing is already done for you. Experiment with everything else on the side until you get a hit.
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    I would not even think of using Adwords, Insurance keywords have some of the highests cpc's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Emma215
    Neat. But try to write/buy some original content.
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  • Profile picture of the author sirtiman
    Before you'll burn your money again, I suggest you to focus how to get fast cash for your money in your wallet. Paid traffic is not recommended if you are desperate.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    What ever you do STOP jumping from one thing to another! I'll give you a tip! It does not matter what opportunity or product. Its all done the same way! The key with online marketing is yes traffic and the 2nd thing is conversion. Also understand that it does not happen fast if you are new. There are many traffic strategies both free and paid. I suggest starting out using the free methods which work just as well by the way and learn to send that traffic to your webpages and then getting them to convert. Once you do that then you can start scaling and testing with paid sources once you have something you know is converting. Also as you get more experience you can use ppc to test the coversions real fast of your web pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author webrankingseoservices2000
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    Try to make more visible. You have to work, a way long journey. Get ready to pay for more traffic. Do not worry, Everybody was a beginner at some point of time.
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