Are services the way to go?

by Jordan Hunter Banned
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Hi WF,

Complete WF Noob here though I've read quite a few threads in the past to help out with different problems. I guess my question is pretty straight forward, I'm looking to make some extra money and I am able to do web design, seo and write fairly well.


Can I offer my services in the complete websites section or warriors for hire?


I'd be looking to bundle everything as authority sites as I've already been able to produce several personally that have had great success (just about $100 each site each month) and a couple for acquaintances that are also making them about the same amount.

Any thoughts would be helpful, thanks!

Jordan
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Warriors for Hire would be your best bet
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      You asked if services are the way to go . . .

      Just understand that if you provide a service, you will get paid according to the time you spend personally.

      A better model is to train others to do the grunt work (outsource) and you focus on the marketing so they have plenty to do.

      The best model, in my opinion, would be to create a product once and then sell it over and over again. You do the work once, and get paid (as a result of your marketing) for many years to come.

      There's certainly nothing wrong with providing a valuable service. Just understand that you are essentially an hourly employee working for a client.

      Good luck to you,

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      • Profile picture of the author searchnology
        I would agree here...leverage as much as you can.

        Good luck!

        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        You asked if services are the way to go . . .

        Just understand that if you provide a service, you will get paid according to the time you spend personally.

        A better model is to train others to do the grunt work (outsource) and you focus on the marketing so they have plenty to do.

        The best model, in my opinion, would be to create a product once and then sell it over and over again. You do the work once, and get paid (as a result of your marketing) for many years to come.

        There's certainly nothing wrong with providing a valuable service. Just understand that you are essentially an hourly employee working for a client.

        Good luck to you,

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author keo3
          I totally agree. I think you should sell you knowledge. There are a lot of people looking to find information about web design. You will go a long way and serve more people if you do that.

          Hope everything goes well for you.

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    • Profile picture of the author webrankingservices2000
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      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      Warriors for Hire would be your best bet
      Yes i agree, that is best place to sell your services
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Another vote the for "warriors for hire" section.

    You could even try running a WSO in the regular WSO sections.

    Whichever route you go, I recommend offering a few review prices to get some cred since you're new and all. Lots of people are cautious about sending money online to people they aren't familiar with. Once you get a few reviews from trusted warriors.. your thread will convert better than it will in the beginning when no one knows you or your service.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You should consider Warriors For Hire, but also take your talents by the horn and truly put it on overdrive. Start your own site offering your services, and promote it everywhere in the right channels online. You have the information on this forum to help you out with marketing.
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    • Profile picture of the author JEasy
      WFH is a great place to start. I look there regularly when looking for people to help me get certain tasks finished on schedule. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author DFTskillz
    Warriors for hire seems like a good idea but don't limit yourself there, you can expand yourself if you can contact specific people on other forums who require a site to be produced
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Put those talents to *building* a service rather than *being* a service. Build the next Aweber, Prosper202, etc and charge a monthly fee for it. Why put in hours of work to sell a $100 site once when you can build once and sell something for $20/month an infinite number of times? Once you find your customers, you can go vacation in Hawaii for months and still have revenue coming in.

    Not ready for the subscription stuff yet? Then build a product. Make a WordPress plugin that helps businesses solve a problem or earn more money. That's not as difficult as it sounds -- stuff like "popup customer surveys" or "adding a link to the top of the page based on user location" can help certain businesses earn more. Sell it for $100 over and over, rather than selling a website just once.

    If you really prefer to be hands-on with individuals, then you want to be a business consultant, not a "web designer and SEO guy". Your service is increasing a business's revenue, not writing code, content and backlinks. Those are just the details of how you do your work. Focusing on them is like hiring a contractor to remodel your bathroom, and have them try to sell you on what brand of grout they use instead of what the bathroom should look like at the end.

    If you can convince a business you'll add $10,000/mo to their bottom line, they will happily pay you $30,000 to work with them for a few weeks. The trick is having enough experience to actually pull it off -- to know the right marketing strategy to boost their traffic, the right UX skills to design a website that'll convert more of those visitors to customers, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Miranda
    The fastest and easiest way to start is to sell a service.
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    • Profile picture of the author VinnyBock
      Originally Posted by Steven Miranda View Post

      The fastest and easiest way to start is to sell a service.
      If you already have something to offer, you have an advantage over most self proclaimed "newbies". Most of us have no idea what to sell when we're first starting out.

      If you can offer quality services, that's definitely the way to go... There is other places other than this forum as well. This forum is definitely one of the better places to start selling, but don't limit yourself...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Stevens
    Sounds like you already have a successful service in place but, I would suggest you get some reviews for your service as well that's normally what people look for as well as post count so they know you have been here for awhile and not just popping in Good Luck!
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    • I think they are anyway. I'm doing websites in the evenings and weekends and pulling in quite a lot of cash. If you have any questions, drop me a PM.

      I wrote a guide (just finished) on what I do and how I do it. There's a link in my sig which for some reason I can't get to work so I'll paste it below for now

      Website Services Guide

      I'd love some feedback on it as really no-one has seen it yet.

      My suggestion would be to target Craigslist and attempt to pull in 2-3 jobs a week. Sell the website itself cheap but upsell other services. EG. Hosting and maintenance for $25 a month or so. It'll take a year or so but then you'll be pulling in $3k or more per month from just the support end.....
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan Hunter
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    Thank you everyone for your input! I can understand the hesitation with noobs to the site and review copies seem the best route at this point to show my seriousness and investment into establishing a relationship with them.



    Any suggestions on the amount to offer review copies, ie 50% off or free? Is there a certain protocol here on WF for review copy amounts?


    During that time I will will also put together an information product on my step my step formula for ANS.


    Thanks guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author unknowncat
    It's harder to scale services than products, but it's easier to ensure bread and butter from services than products. All the posts here are pointing you in good direction. Best to earn from services as you are building and selling your products. That way once you've gained momentum selling products you can either drop the services or outsource and scale. Best Wishes!
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