40% conversion rate yet no sales

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My site sets up blogs along with FB & twitter, a custom logo and 8 plug-ins for free. In return I ask that people purchase their hosting through me.

I started an Adwords PPC Campaign for it yesterday, starting out nice and easy. I spent £6 for 19 clicks.

I actually had a 40% conversion rate ... But here's the problem:

In theory, they were supposed to enter their details into a contact form, along with what they'd like from their blogs once they'd signed up for hosting ...

However what actually happened was that no-one signed up for hosting .. and although everyone entered their email, only 2 entered a name and what they'd like for the blog .. :confused:

Should I make things clearer on the page ?
All ads were targeted keywords i.e free blog setup, make me a blog

The link to the site is in my sig
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

    In theory, they were supposed to enter their details into a contact form, along with what they'd like from their blogs once they'd signed up for hosting ...
    Then why does it say "Build my blog, please" on the submission button?

    That's terribly "committal", isn't it? Wouldn't "tell me more, please" or something like that, perhaps be a better start?

    Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

    although everyone entered their email, only 2 entered a name and what they'd like for the blog ..

    Should I make things clearer on the page ?
    I think you should make it clearer, where you ask them to opt in, that they're not committing themselves to anything by giving you their email address.

    I think you should have the opt-in box in a more prominent position, too.

    And I think you could give a lot more information than you do, on the site, but I don't think that's actually the problem, is it? I need examples, not just information.

    If I were interested in your service, as a customer, the very first thing I'd want, expect and need to see is a little portfolio of the blogs you've designed. I suspect that very few people (if anyone?) is going to employ the services of someone as a blog designer without seeing their previous work? That's like being an article writer but not being able to show someone anything you've written. Sorry if I sound very critical, but I can't help thinking that this might be so glaring an omission that it might prevent your ever getting a customer at all?

    You're asking me to click on a link and buy hosting through your affiliate link before you've even shown me what you can do?!

    That surely can't be right?

    In your position, I'd certainly want that problem to be taken care of before spending money on traffic!
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    • Profile picture of the author 06blawton
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Then why does it say "Build my blog, please" on the submission button?

      That's terribly "committal", isn't it? Wouldn't "tell me more, please" or something like that, perhaps be a better start?



      I think you should make it clearer, where you ask them to opt in, that they're not committing themselves to anything by giving you their email address.

      I think you should have the opt-in box in a more prominent position, too.

      And I think you could give a lot more information than you do, on the site, but I don't think that's actually the problem, is it? I need examples, not just information.

      If I were interested in your service, as a customer, the very first thing I'd want, expect and need to see is a little portfolio of the blogs you've designed. I suspect that very few people (if anyone?) is going to employ the services of someone as a blog designer without seeing their previous work? That's like being an article writer but not being able to show someone anything you've written. Sorry if I sound very critical, but I can't help thinking that this might be so glaring an omission that it might prevent your ever getting a customer at all?

      You're asking me to click on a link and buy hosting through your affiliate link before you've even shown me what you can do?!

      That surely can't be right?

      In your position, I'd certainly want that problem to be taken care of before spending money on traffic!
      I spent money on traffic because I needed to see how things would go, this is a test run and PPC obviously being the quickest way to get traffic, is a good solution. I've paused the campaign for the meanwhile now until things are improved. I just wanted to see how it would go. Hence only spending £6.

      I'll get some examples up shortly. And make it look more professional. My problem wasn't how many people are entering their details, 5/19 isn't too bad, it's that they didn't sign up for hosting, without that I can't provide the service
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Servis
    Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

    My site sets up blogs along with FB & twitter, a custom logo and 8 plug-ins for free. In return I ask that people purchase their hosting through me.

    I started an Adwords PPC Campaign for it yesterday, starting out nice and easy. I spent £6 for 19 clicks.

    I actually had a 40% conversion rate ... But here's the problem:

    In theory, they were supposed to enter their details into a contact form, along with what they'd like from their blogs once they'd signed up for hosting ...

    However what actually happened was that no-one signed up for hosting .. and although everyone entered their email, only 2 entered a name and what they'd like for the blog .. :confused:

    Should I make things clearer on the page ?
    All ads were targeted keywords i.e free blog setup, make me a blog

    The link to the site is in my sig
    Could you not have it that the blog spec text box is on one page then when they confirm that they then get the email sign up form to complete the process?

    So:

    1) Tell us the blog you require
    2) Confirm your requirements
    3) Enter name and email to complete the process
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  • Profile picture of the author retsced
    You most definitely need to make things clearer on your page..

    As it stands, all you have is a couple hundred words explaining what you do, but no examples. Your site looks bland, unprofessional and doesn't do anything whatsoever to build trust.

    I know it's only a basic website your setting up, but to the complete newbie, they definitely need a lot more than an article explaining what you do, what they get etc. Put a few testimonials up. A few images. Examples of websites with professional looking themes.

    As it stands, I wouldn't even contemplate for one second signing up based on what I see (which is nothing much at all mate)

    Have you thought about getting people's contact details (build list) and then build a little bit of trust by sending them to websites you've set up for other people? Remember, trust is big issue online, and I doubt anyone is paying up front for something without having some reassurance that you're not sitting behind a computer screen with a mask and striped jumper ready to run for the hills with their hard earned cash.

    You most likely need your own blog to look a little bit more professional. Make it more trustworthy since you're asking them to give money first, and receive their purchase in 5 days time.

    I still think the best option is to build trust by building a list and sending them relevant info via email messages.

    I don't see much happening the way it's set up at the moment. I could be wrong. Have been before, and will continue to be occasionally in the future
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    First thing I'd do is remove the option to select their hosting option, instead of offering them two, just go with one.

    Next I would add more structure to your page,

    1 - Offer and opt-in
    2 - Select domain name/hosting
    3 - Enter their specific info

    Then of-course set-up a 7 day follow-up sequence.

    I've done things similar to this in the past, and when you emphasise on the "Free" aspect, the user really expects it for free, not to have to pay for hosting/domain.

    Think about the wording you use...
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      First thing I'd do is remove the option to select their hosting option, instead of offering them two, just go with one.
      Yes indeed; this, too. This must be right, one would think.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Make it shorter and easier, users hate it when it looks like they have to put in any type of "effort"
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  • Profile picture of the author 06blawton
    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people think I'm charging the potential customer?

    The "selling point" of the service is that they don't pay me anything, they simply need to sign up for hosting, which they'd need to do anyway.

    Thanks for the responses so far, they've been really helpful.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

      Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people think I'm charging the potential customer?
      You're wrong.

      We forgive you.

      Nobody thought that. Everyone who replied to you understands the business model well and clearly and has seen it 100 times before (is my guess).
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

      Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people think I'm charging the potential customer?

      The "selling point" of the service is that they don't pay me anything, they simply need to sign up for hosting, which they'd need to do anyway.

      Thanks for the responses so far, they've been really helpful.
      I hear what ya sayin' but heres the thing....

      People that are looking for "free" websites/blogs etc are looking for exactly that. The people that actually look for "free" sites are either broke or low on funds they want exactly what they are looking for, a free site.

      When they see they have to pay for hosting, they bail.

      Your business model works, and it works well - however I would recommend targeting local businesses, non-profits and churches who will all be more than willing to take you up on your offer AND pay for the hosting, believe me
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by 06blawton View Post

      Forgive me if I'm wrong, but it seems that people think I'm charging the potential customer?

      The "selling point" of the service is that they don't pay me anything, they simply need to sign up for hosting, which they'd need to do anyway.

      Thanks for the responses so far, they've been really helpful.
      Explain the people that you're an affiliate for the hosting companies, how affiliate marketig works (that they don't pay higher prices), etc.

      Right now, you talk too little about this. It almost feels like a bait-and-switch.

      Here's how I'd word it:

      "So, you've seen what I have to offer, and I bet right now you're thinking what's in it for me. (Don't worry, I don't do much pro bono work)

      The answer lies in the hosting. You need hosting and I'll show you a great hosting company. What you have to do is to purchase a package through my links, and I get a commission. This is called affiliate marketing. Don't worry, the prices you see are the real ones, they're not inflated. It's just that the company rewards me with a small commission (and yes, I do pay taxes on it, damn it.).

      Seems like a fair deal? I sure hope so."

      Okay, so this wording isn't suitable for professional websites, but you get the idea ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
    I've looked at your website, and ...:

    1. It looks, like other have noticed, unprofessional. As far as I know, ellipses look like this "...", not like this ".."

    2. Why two pages and not a single, longer one? makes no sense to me

    3. Your website has no contact page, no about us page, no nothing. It looks my websites in their first 45 minutes of life: almost empty.

    4. It may be just me, but I'd like to see to font a little bigger

    5. Everything looks amateurish: the color of the button in the opt-in box (pink? what's up with that?), its position (why not center it?), the header of the opt-in goes over the arrow, etc. It needs more polishing.

    6. On your second page, on the sidebar there's a link to Wordpress.org named "Mr WordPress on Hello world!" Are you kidding me?

    7. Your use of all caps right under the opt-in and in the headline looks amateurish

    8. Your theme's social buttons aren't working, they redirect to your homepage

    9. Why do you have a search field for a 500-word website?

    10. Change your font: when you use words in italics they lean too much, and they "kiss" the next word.

    11. Everything else the other forumities said

    12. Interesting business idea!
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  • Profile picture of the author JayZeey
    Hello,

    I'm a WP developer without a site of my own - I work only by word of mouth. So I understand that sometimes devs have pretty thin sites of their own.

    But since you are out there selling your talents, I have some specific advice:

    1. Get rid of the test comment and encourage some real ones
    2. Get some real content up there - do a before/after with a real client
    3. Don't make your offer sound as great as it does now. It sounds suspicious to me, looking at it through a client's eyes. A blog client knows it takes thousands for a good quality site to happen, and it doesn't happen overnight. And you're going to do this for free? Sounds too good to be true, and I don't trust it. Put your limitations out there so I know you are for real.
    4. Consider prettying up your site. It's a little barebones. Yes, your logo is custom, but I can tell you right now that people will say "it's just text, i could do that!" or some junk like that. And a lot of newbie blog people like lots of color and whizbang. I don't, but they do and that's the point of all this.
    5. Do some teaching. Teach people, via some blog posts, what distinguishes a great blog from a crappy one. Establishes you as an expert.

    And a question: why not just collect a hosting fee from the customer directly and throw in the blog work? I mean, you could become a HG reseller, host their site, and charge them $20 a month for hosting....perhaps I'm misunderstanding your business plan, but that would guarantee you got paid, right?

    Keep it up, you'll get there. Just make sure you send Alexa some virtual flowers or something, her advice is the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author seonutshell
    You have a really good idea here mate. But your site looks really bad. Too much text and not enough images. You need to have the Call to action higher up on th page and at the bottom and actually make it a button.

    Also make it very clear from the start that it is a free service.
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  • Profile picture of the author danr62
    By putting your affiliate links before the opt in box you're sort of putting the horse before the cart, arent you? Tell them they will need their own hosting and domain name in order to take advantage of your offer, but don't provide affiliate links or recommendations until after you've gotten them to opt in.
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  • Profile picture of the author 06blawton
    Had some golden advice here, thanks guys!

    Here's what I've decided to do.

    first of all erase all content on site apart from logo

    get rid of social buttons/comments

    make text larger

    change font



    I'll structure the 'home' page as a static landing page .. no fluff just with a (more professional) opt-in box & a few lines explaining the benefits of blogging & the service etc

    Once they've entered their details they'll be taken to the 'Hosting page' where I can explain the need for hosting & domain, how I get paid etc.

    They can then choose a domain and once they decide, they click 'register domain' which is my affiliate link

    I'm also going to set up an About us & Contact Page


    Also thanks very much for all of the advice, very useful. I'll be sure to buy you all a virtual pint.

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author damasgate
    I feel like you're re-inventing the wheel on this too much. There are too many unknowns at this point for you to know what is actually causing this problem.

    What would I do in your case?

    Look around the internet in the same niche and see what your competition is doing. Spying on my competition and pretty much copying them has been one of the reasons why I'm successful at my campaigns.
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