4000 Posts and a Gameplan for Making Money Online

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Warrior friends, it seems like yesterday I was debating how to dip my digital fingers into the forum and make my first post. Back then, almost a decade ago, I had just bought a product so I could enter the secret world of the Warrior Forum and read juicy posts by Allen Says. For newcomers - in 2004 the home page here was just a picture. No public forum. No registration option.

Just a mocking graphic that money was to be made inside and you had to figure out a way to get in.



Much has changed!

Today, and a few million in profits later, if you'll indulge me with this long post I will cover 12 tips you can use to make money promoting products. Instead of theory let me walk you through a detailed gameplan of what to do.

This is just one way to make money. It is easy, does not require a lot of skill, and not much investment to get started.

I'll use an Amazon product as an example since almost everyone is an Amazon affiliate: the Hamilton Beach mess free Belgian waffle maker:

Amazon.com: Hamilton Beach 26040 Mess Free...Amazon.com: Hamilton Beach 26040 Mess Free...
Hamilton Beach: Mess Free Belgian Style Waffle Maker (26040)

Why this product? It's in my kitchen and I use it to make waffles for the family every other Sunday morning. (The other Sundays I make pancakes)



Domain Name:

You need your own domain. I suggest branding the domain. Very few affiliates try to create their own brand. Instead, they are hung-up on SEO and EMD (exact match domains) or how to be an almost exact match domain without getting nuked by Google.

Instead of hamilton-beach-mess-free-belgian-waffle.com, or messfreebelgianwaffle.com, go for a name that is brandable, short, and catchy.

I might use Waffle Geek. As I post this wafflegeek.com is available to register. I use Namedroppers.com to find available domain names.

Then I would create a logo and sometimes try to create my own slogan. A logo like a waffle, with googley-eyes, and The Ultimate Waffle Site For Those Geeked About Making Their Family Tasty Waffles. Wiki Commons is a nice place to find free pictures. I will use PhotoShop to manipulate and crop pictures, and then Incansoft's GFX Writer to finalize a logo.

For domain names what I do is have a list of prefixes and suffixes I like to use with domains. For instance, geek would be a suffix. When I am looking for a domain I will apply my word list to the niche topic and I can almost always come away with a great domain.

The key point is branding. As you drive around your town are most businesses you see brand names or keyword names? Brand names rule.



General Page Structure:


Word Court

Search engines, especially Google, love longer articles and pages with more text. It is not sufficient to promote a product with the manufacturer's 100 word product description. 400 word articles are a thing of the past thanks to marketers pumping out millions of articles exactly 400 words long. Today, my goal is 750 words. For some of my high ranking legal pages the word court is a couple thousand.

For some product pages 750 is too many. (You may need to combine multiple products on one page.) For others not enough. Don't be anal in assuming every web page must have a set number of words. But my target is 750.

An average sentence has 15 words in it. That means we need 50 sentences. (50 times 15 is 750.)

Here is a possible topic outline:

3-5 sentences: Intro to web page and why it exists, about myself and making waffles for family, why waffles are yummy, some interesting fact about waffles, etc:

3-5 sentences: Overview of making perfect waffles every time, people hate undercooked waffles, people hate burned waffles, etc.

3-5 sentences: Measuring the perfect amount of batter to not make a mess and measuring cup provided with waffler.

3-5 sentences: How and why cleaning up messes decreases the life of non-stick surfaces and wafflers.

3-5 sentences: What is needed to avoid getting burned when opening waffle makers, describe the locking handle and the 2 inch distance from waffler that avoids burns.

5-10 sentences: Detailed description of the waffler, including easy to use and see dials and buttons, colors, material, what it looks like (describe what is seen in the pictures), size, etc. I spell out sizes to add words. Instead of 12" I may use twelve inches.

3-5 sentences: Paraphrasing reviews found online.

5-10 sentences: Feature and price comparisons to other waffle makers.

3-5 sentences: Brand importance, history of Hamilton Beach, something interesting about the company.

5-10 sentences: Miscellanous ideas, such as the funky and fun waffle strips this product creates, how much my dogs love them, favorite recipes, favorite fruit to also serve with waffles, cleaning tips, etc.

2-5 sentences: Where to buy and why to use the merchant I recommend.

Note: Use active (not passive) writing and adjectives to add words and to give your writing imagery and impact.

This is a rough estimate of sentences. As I start writing, or outsource this to someone to write, it may turn out some sections are shorter and others are longer. I have found providing a "brainstorming outline" significantly helps writers create better content when outsourcing. Better than just saying give me a 750 word article about this product.

In my experience this type of detail and word volume is sufficient to get a high ranking for most products without needing to consider backlinks. The long-tail keywords this type of outline creates can generate a surprising amount of traffic.


Pictures and Graphics

Use graphics and pictures to sell the product, discuss features, increase the word count, and to break up the text.

The forum limits how many pictures I can post, but here are three I took of the waffle maker:



This is a close up showing the top with the large dial and easy to read buttons. There is a green and red button which tell you when the power is on and when the waffle is done cooking.

This makes it almost impossible to mess up the waffle.

(Do you see how easy it is to describe what is in a picture and write a few sentences about the product!)



Here you see the recessed inside of the product and a measuring cup that comes with it. The recessed inside helps prevent messes where batter slops over the side if you add too much. The measuring cup makes sure you do not add too much - just the perfect amount each time.



This picture with the measuring tape shows the locking button on the handle and the distance between where you lift the handle to open the waffler maker and the hot main part. This is a good distance and helps you from accidentally burning yourself when opening the waffle iron.

(Again, easy smeasy to add content that describes the pictures, sells the product, and breaks up the web page. I could keep adding more and I haven't even got to the pictures available to use from Amazon or from the manufacturer to illustrate additional selling points.)

Often I will brand my pictures with the website url. The free product I use to do this is the Fast Stone photo resizer (FastStone Photo Resizer - Powerful Image Converter/Resizer).



Affiliate Links

One at the top of the page and one at the bottom of the page. Maybe a third in the middle of the page, as a graphic, to help break up the text.

I have been moving away from text links and instead using big graphic links - even if the graphic is just a box with text in it.

Why? Because it is easier to see and click on when using mobile devices. It is also easier to see and click for those over 40. Ahem, trust me on this one.

Bannerfans.com is a site I use to easily make quick graphics like this:



I "hide" every affiliate link from Google to protect my search rankings. This is because Google hates most affiliate pages. I use Elf Links and Squeeze Links. These are my products and my intent is not to write this promoting them, so I won't link to them, but they are what I use and the only products I know of that accomplish this critical task.

Required affiliate text, such as the Amazon affiliate disclosure, I also try to avoid for SEO reasons. Nothing like waiving a red flag you have an affiliate site. Instead, I put the text in a graphic.



Platform

Most of my sites are written in html and php. I hand write the code because it gives me control over how the page looks. It took a long time of self-education to learn how to code web pages, but it has been well worth it.

If I use WordPress I prefer responsive themes which automatically adjust in size for mobile devices.

I rarely use any Google products to avoid giving information to Big G. At most, on some sites, I have Adsense. For website analytics I use Piwik, which is free.



Other

That's it. Making money from quality pages does not have to be hard or complex.

Although some make a living from email marketing I usually have one goal on a web page. If that is to get an affiliate commission then I want to get the click to the merchant.

Not every product needs a newsletter.



Tips Review:

1. More words. A goal of 750 or more can be critical for SEO. I use a main keyword in the title, page description, H1 tag, and near the beginning of the content. Otherwise, I just write for readers and let the on page SEO naturally take care of itself.

You can tell when someone is writing for SEO (keyword density and stuffing in certain words) and it is not compelling or worth reading.

However, your content must be unique. Run your page through copyscape. If it does not come back clean then rework the text until it does.

2. Be specific. One of the biggest mistakes I see are articles being too general because you don't know enough about the product or why someone would buy it. Describing little things, even dials and buttons helps add content and explain why someone should buy the product. Experts are not general. Experts are specific in what they say, and people follow the recommendations of experts. If you wrote this outlined review page about the waffle maker you would be considered an expert on the product.

Giving an outline to a content writer will give you better articles. Once you have a product outline you can recycle it for other products.

3. Add more product pictures than just the one main picture on Amazon. The more the better. Quick graphics can be created to highlight major points.

Pictures and graphics and very useful to give you something to talk about and break up the text on the page.

4. Paraphrase testimonials.

5. Own the product to create credibility. Take your own pictures if you can. Consider watermarking your pictures with your domain url for when they are inevitably copied to other sites.

6. Find unique twists or entertaining tips that sets your review apart and makes it interesting. Did you know that Thomas Jefferson is believed to have popularized waffles in the US? (at least according to Wikipedia).

7. No affiliate links or your SEO rankings are in peril.

8. No Amazon affiliate text. Use a graphic.

9. Create your own brand, logo, slogan. Use namedroppers to find available domains.

10. Entertain and inform. You are educating potential buyers and directing them to products to buy, but this does not have to be boring. Think of every reason / issue / question someone has when comparing products and try to cover them all.

Often, the manufacturer's product features are a roadmap of topics you can expand on and discuss.

11. Check how your site looks on mobile devices (iphones and ipads). If you use WordPress then you want a "responsive" theme that automatically adjusts the size of your page depending on what device is being used to view the page.

12. Need a niche? Just look around your home and see what you have and think about why you bought it. It's that easy.



I have learned an incredible amount from the forum over the years. THANKS EVERYONE!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Thanks Brian,

    This birngs up the use of photos of products. I find it difficult to find pics of products that aren't on Amazon, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I find it difficult to find pics of products that aren't on Amazon, etc.
      - Manufacturers typically have pictures. Sometimes massive product picture archives are password protected for retailers or drop shippers, but signing up to get access is free.

      - If you have the product its easy.

      - If the product is in a store and you have a smart phone ...

      - Have you checked eBay? eBay pics are fine for promoting the eBay affiliate program. Membership is tough, but third party workarounds like SkimLinks are available. Although you know I can't advise copyright infringement, the fact is the risk of a copyright claim for using a product picture from grandma auctioning something is very, very remote and damages likely are nonexistent.

      - Did you check the sold listings on eBay? This bring up a new universe of products and information not included in a regular eBay search.

      - If you've ever searched eBay international sites there are often products missed from a US search. The same might be true for Amazon's international sites. This is easier, at least for me, with brands where spelling is universal.

      - I assume you did a Google images search for possible sources. A shot in the dark is archive.org. Not just a historical web page search, but it has a detailed media collection.

      - You may have to say a picture is not available and show a similar product.

      - You could offer someone $5 if they email you a picture of their product. Then you will need a page targeting current users, such as where to find a manual, get replacement parts, have a list of part numbers, etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author zuberr
    I guess a simple thanks is not gonna be enough.

    You have shared an incredible amount of great ideas in this forum over the years. So, THANK YOU
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  • Profile picture of the author owais211
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    Fantastic awesome advice rich of learning information
    Thank you for your generous ideas.
    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
    Not sure why I didn't think of it great idea adding the amazon affiliate disclaimer as an image. Also love the idea about using product images from ebay. Checked out Elf links as well and will purchase...some great info here and I would class myself as a fairly experienced Amazon affiliate.

    Thanks again

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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Kindsvater,

      Congratulations on making it to 4,000! That kind of consistent effort represents a heck of a lot of time spent on this site.

      I find your posts to be very helpful and your wisdom in IM is greatly appreciated.

      I have just one question for you . . .

      Are you really a lawyer or did you just play one on TV?

      The best to you,

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        I have just one question for you . . .

        Are you really a lawyer or did you just play one on TV?
        Thanks for the comments. Yes, I am a lawyer. Specifically, a licensed attorney in California. And yes, I've been on TV.

        Tips from an attorney media training course:

        1. Have your points prepared in advanced.
        2. The points must be short soundbites for TV or newsprint quotes. No rambling allowed.
        3. No matter what the reporter asks stay on your points.

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  • Profile picture of the author JonP
    This is exactly the type of useful thread that makes WarriorForum so helpful and valuable to new and experienced marketers alike! The idea of using an article outline as a way of getting better outsourced articles is a very good tip, it also helps those who write their own articles stay focused and produce better overall content too.

    I also found your advice about branding insightful and I completely agree with you.

    Thanks for the post and congrats on your 4000+ posts!

    Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    Search engines, especially Google, love longer articles and pages with more text. It is not sufficient to promote a product with the manufacturer's 100 word product description. 400 word articles are a thing of the past thanks to marketers pumping out millions of articles exactly 400 words long. Today, my goal is 750 words. For some of my high ranking legal pages the word court is a couple thousand.
    I'm sorry but this sounds too 2010. IM is more about building relationships now and less about pumping up your word count to hope for SE traffic. Yes, some people will make good money through SEO. However, it's extremely hard to make a lot of money from SEO and only very few people will manage to do so. Relying on SE traffic is a failed strategy IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Originally Posted by joaquin112 View Post

      IM is more about building relationships now and less about pumping up your word count to hope for SE traffic. Yes, some people will make good money through SEO. However, it's extremely hard to make a lot of money from SEO and only very few people will manage to do so.
      I make a ton from SEO and this is how I do it. If you want to use your relationships there is nothing wrong with that. As I said in the post, this is but one way of making money.

      IMHO, the reasons most marketers find SEO hard and make nothing is stated in my post: inadequate content, measured both by quantity of words and quality of content since it lacks specificity and usefulness.

      Let me suggest something applicable to my waffle example: there is a ton more traffic available from SEO for waffle makers than from your personal social relationships. How many people do you know looking for a new waffle iron?

      A personal relationship may be stronger in making a recommendation, but you need traffic.

      When I create a web page that gets a good ranking that ranking usually sticks. Another way of saying this: work once in creating the page and then enjoy the fruit of the labor for a long time.

      Now, compare to social media. If you write a Facebook post, tweet, even a forum post, what quickly happens to it? It gets buried. No one later finds it unless they are doing a search. Frankly, none of my Facebook friends are going to search my posts wondering if I ever recommended a waffle maker.

      Social media can be a treadmill of repeating postings. Someone else had a thread about this problem earlier this week, where they continually had to make postings in social media to get traffic and Amazon banned them for it. As I said, my outline is simply one way of marketing, but don't knock my tried and tested method just because you prefer something else. If you think "word count" is the only issue then you may want to carefully re-read my post.

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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Brian,

        I read a story about an attorney in So Cal.

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        Apparently a guy is scouring the automobile classified ads and sees the following listing:
        1 year old Porsche, low miles, immaculate, attorney owned and cared for meticulously, first buyer with $50 drives it away. Don't call - just come get your car. The address is . . .
        The reader figures this is probably a scam but the seller is close by so he grabs his wallet and dashes over to be the first to see the car.

        Sure enough, it's there, looks brand new and so he knocks on the door to make his purchase. The wife answers, takes the $50, signs the title over and hands the guy his keys.

        "Wow, obviously that lady is out of her mind" thinks the buyer.

        As he walks away, the new owner just can't help himself, so he returns and asks the wife why she would sell a nearly new Porsche for $50.

        "Well, my husband just ran away with his secretary and asked me to sell his car and send him the money."

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        Have a great day,

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Saha
    Congrats on your 4000 posts! You have provided lot of valuable knowledge and products in the WF. I have read some of them. This one was amazing.

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author lizbot
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post


    7. No affiliate links or your SEO rankings are in peril.

    8. No Amazon affiliate text. Use a graphic.
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    Including the Amazon affiliate text is a graphic is actually a pretty brilliant idea. I'm very new, so one of the first things I did on deciding to create an Amazon affiliate page was Google the affiliate disclaimer text in various forms to pull up examples. Handy for me, but not really the sort of attention people want.

    On the first point (and I'm sorry because this is probably a totally noobish question), it was my understanding that Amazon's TOS forbade cloaking links to make it unclear to users that what they were pressing was an affiliate link. How does one fool Google and maintain one's rankings while adhering to Amazon's TOS?
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  • Profile picture of the author searchnology
    Originally Posted by kindsvater View Post

    In my experience this type of detail and word volume is sufficient to get a high ranking for most products without needing to consider backlinks. The long-tail keywords this type of outline creates can generate a surprising amount of traffic.
    I couldn't agree more...the longtail is often overlooked because of the small amount of traffic for each keyword but cumulatively it can be a gold mine and is usually easy to rank for those!

    Congrats on the 4000 posts...when I grow up I want to be just like you!
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  • Profile picture of the author vicwic
    wow. thanks for putting the effort to make such a valuable post. this is what makes wf so great. well done and congrats on your 4k posts!
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    Thank you Kinds for taking the time and putting the effort to provide such a quality informative post. I have new ideas to try and a different outlook after reading this post. I'm hoping to get back in IM and give it another go. I failed the first time around.
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    • Profile picture of the author kindsvater
      Lizbot, welcome to the forum. I sent you a PM with a link to a detailed explanation and live demo of how it works.

      Larry, good luck with your reboot. When I first started online (my AOL account dates to 1994) my goal was to promote my legal services. I have content written in the 1990s I still get traffic to today!

      Since then I have expanded into many different areas. What's great about IM is the ability to generate ongoing income that swamps what is made hourly, even at attorney hourly rates.

      A $10 form that is sold and delivered online can ultimately make thousands of dollars on auto pilot. Web pages can generate income for as as long as they get traffic. Affiliate programs like AWeber pay out commissions forever based on a one-time referral.

      You can build your online empire, even if it starts slowly and even though there will setbacks along the way such as Google changes.

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  • Profile picture of the author Ckventure
    Great advice and good to see an endorsement for SEO. I know pieces of string are all different lengths and it depends who is using them - but can you suggest some ballpark income potential a waffle maker site might make?

    I realise one site will not make a million.

    CKventure
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    • Profile picture of the author Edward Aw
      Awesome post!

      Are you making a single page web sites, aside from all the standard stuff?

      Wow!

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    Good Post, this post should be valuable especially Internet Marketing Newbies
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  • Profile picture of the author Hobo82
    Thanks for such a clear and detailed post.

    I would love to pick your brain on this.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author theultimate1
    WOW... Awesome amount of pure, actionable content... Thanks

    I have a query though. I didn't understand
    I "hide" every affiliate link from Google to protect my search rankings. This is because Google hates most affiliate pages. I use Elf Links and Squeeze Links. These are my products and my intent is not to write this promoting them, so I won't link to them, but they are what I use and the only products I know of that accomplish this critical task.
    Can you please shed more light on this? Thanks again
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Clark
    Great post, loads of info. I especially like the idea of putting text into graphics for links and found it very effective when I implemented it. Thanks.
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