by Mona76
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Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn ,you think iam idiot and its my problem.i see all of you say you earn $100 daily and 1000s monthly but i just hear but never earn .
i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do like buy a domain name i buy ,set up a wordpress site i do,put affliate links i do ,how to get traffic he told me to write more articles which is not working even i hire someone to write me,he just telling me things to do any one know it and doesnt work at all i lost one thousand doller and this is not a small amount and when i tried to contact [name removed]through our skype group and ask him to help he just blocked me from the room .
I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
If you pass through all of this sure you can help me .I have alot of financial responsibilities.
sorry for my bad english but i can understand you well

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#earn #money
  • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
    There's a lot that can be said about this post. I'm going to hone in on a few things.

    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    There's no Shyamalan plot twist here: you're the problem. How specifically? I don't know; but this is "work for yourself" land bud. There's no one else to fall back on.

    in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
    I'm not sure what the education system in Egypt is like; but you should at least be marginally aware of the scientific method, right? Cool thing about that: it's not just for science. It is a blueprint for problem solving and experimenting in general.

    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    You made $400 more than most people will ever make and what, dropped it because it wasn't immediately profitable?! When you went to school for chemistry did you just stop doing an assignment if the chemicals did not react the way that you predicted. I sure hope not. You collect data, you analyze and course correct, and you improve until you become profitable. The data showed you that whatever you were promoting had a market.
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      hi Manal,

      First, clearly you are not looking for people to blame you nor here to point finger on others ( although it seems you already did for you coach )

      I usually rather stay away from coaches ( some may have something to show you, but other actually need somebody to be coached them in the first place ).

      BobTheBostonian I hope you read the post correctly in the first time, she spent over $1k to make $400, so no she didn't make money. The fact she stopped was a smart move.

      Manal, you want to make money online, well since you are starting. You should put in your mind two things : How do you want to make money online ? and what skills or service can you offer.

      Internet Marketing is not a magical world, it works as real life, you don't go outside wondering how can i make money ? you ask yourself what job or service can you provide to make money ?

      Now, here is what you need to figure out first :

      - What do you want to do to make money ? would you be happy provide that service 10 years later ? it is not a short term project. If I told you, you can make $10 for reviewing people homework online, would you want to do that for the rest of your life ? if not you probably don't want to do it now either.

      - Who would be your targeted customers ? it is important to have an idea about your targeted audience ? this is a game changer. For example, if you looking to open an online store to sell physical items in egypt online, it probably a bad idea since people in egypt are not into online shopping.

      - What is your start point ? so, are you looking to start from scratch at this point ? would you like to start as a freelancer ? or do you have a capital and interested in starting an online business ?
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    • Profile picture of the author webrankingservices2000
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      Bob, Wonderful way of answering this kiddo. He has to be patient. However, I am feeling sorry for him. He is scolding all the internet marketers. Its time to help him out.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mona76
        Originally Posted by webrankingservices2000 View Post

        Bob, Wonderful way of answering this kiddo. He has to be patient. However, I am feeling sorry for him. He is scolding all the internet marketers. Its time to help him out.
        her not her . i dont scold anyone
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        • Profile picture of the author cjalvarez91
          Are you really expecting people to make money for you just because of your sad situation? Sorry it does not work that way.

          Advice from people with great knowledge is a big tool, it's up to you whether you take action or not. If you are just waiting for someone to press the "get rich quick" button for you, you are wasting your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Murphysmurfy
    Well, i think your main issue is that your English is pretty bad.

    Unless you write in your native language or outsource your writing, English readers would never want to stay on your website and sign up for a newsletter.

    You should continue reading on the warriorforum, sign up for the war room, and take action.
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    • Profile picture of the author misslenali
      yes I think you are right.... i have a blog and because my english grammar isn´t what it should be I lose trust.... no matter I have great ops, people dont trust misspelling
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  • Profile picture of the author bernsta
    I think you need to be more careful.

    Why would successful AM's share their core strategies with you?

    This site is a fantastic resource, no doubt about that. But some of the wanky sales pitches I've seen across this forum are an absolute disgrace.

    If someone is onto something or has found a good niche, why on earth would they diverge all their strategies to you?

    All that ends up happening is that everyone hammers the same niche and it becomes saturated, meanwhile the clever AM has already moved on whilst taking your money for the pleasure.

    Always be suspicious and question everything. AM is not easy, it takes a lot of effort and attention. Once you setup your channels and put some hard work in, the rest can roll nicely. You are at that point of giving up, this is what separates you from the rest. You can give up now or keep fighting and create something for you and your family that you will be proud of.

    Your call.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    The others are right. You can't blame others for what you have or have not done. There are LOTS of ways to earn money but you have to find the right thing that uses your specific skills and commit. Nothing is easy and it's not short term either.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      i want to thank you all for reply you all blame me for not success online and my bad english and my giving up mind but no one help me that way
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      • Profile picture of the author Mona76
        i am trying to figure why ?my english i understand english very very well and i hire someone to write for me
        $400 yes but paid google 1500$ to earn it
        never give up i am here to try and try again
        its my dream
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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
      Why don't you stop spending 1000's on products, and pay $30 to join the war room, you will find many methods there for free.

      If you paid $1400 to only make $400, then you may have had to tweak your campaign, you may have had a winner, but just need to tweak the keywords and site to get your conversion rate up.
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      But I knew the one thing I might regret is not ever having tried. "

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      • Profile picture of the author Mona76
        that was from three years and i lost this website because of money
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    • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    English is my third language. The English lessons I had when I was young were not enough…

    I used to have an editor who corrected all my documents online during four years until I learned how to write well. You can find an inexpensive editor to correct your mistakes and improve your writings. Go to the Warriors for Hire section and you will find help.

    If you want to be trusted you have to speak like a responsible and self-confident person, and not like someone who is not able to write a perfect sentence.

    Now, my second advice is that you have to stop desperately looking for ways to make sales online, and learn how to offer a service, based on your skills.

    You should keep trying to improve your business at the same time, but try offering a service and make money this way, without spending money.

    You can use free methods to spread your links around. Use Blogger, Squidoo, Zujava, Hub pages and everything you can to make some money and promote your links. Create only a few pages because you don't want to depend on these free platforms. Use them with caution because you can lose your work at any time. But use them as much as you can, without putting too much effort there.

    Try to find many different income streams, without depending only on sales.









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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    Have you tried anything locally or in your own language?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      yes creating facebok fan page and promating it by facebook ads and he get about 50.000 like in four months but i didnt earn money he is a friend
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      It's difficult to tell, from a short, second-hand account, but for what it's worth, I suspect that you may have been given bad information about "how to sell ClickBank products" and you were perhaps trying something that was probably never going to work, because it wasn't really based on the three essential requirements for successful ClickBank affiliate sales: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523
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    • Profile picture of the author jamesbrands
      Originally Posted by Victor Edson View Post

      Have you tried anything locally or in your own language?
      Definitely look into this.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mona76
        practical advices please
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        • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
          Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

          practical advices please
          Get a job.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mona76
            Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

            Get a job.
            Do you have a job for me?
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            • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
              Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

              Do you have a job for me?
              I wouldn't hire you based on what you've revealed here: an inability to think laterally to solve problems and a propensity to blame others instead of taking responsibility for your current situation. Unfortunately, these are the same reasons you won't be running your own business anytime soon either.

              You're in a catch-22 until you make a character adjustment.
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              • Profile picture of the author blib79
                Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

                I wouldn't hire you based on what you've revealed here: an inability to think laterally to solve problems and a propensity to blame others instead of taking responsibility for your current situation. Unfortunately, these are the same reasons you won't be running your own business anytime soon either.

                You're in a catch-22 until you make a character adjustment.
                Duuuude! So harsh, man.

                She's frustrated and reaching out for some help. Give her a break.

                Mona - no one ever said this stuff was easy...

                best of luck
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                • Profile picture of the author writeaway
                  Originally Posted by blib79 View Post

                  ... no one ever said this stuff was easy...
                  Uhmm... take a look at some of the wild income statements made by many sales letters and mmo offers. Still, in the end, the bostonian has a good point.
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                • Profile picture of the author Mona76
                  Originally Posted by blib79 View Post

                  Duuuude! So harsh, man.

                  She's frustrated and reaching out for some help. Give her a break.

                  Mona - no one ever said this stuff was easy...

                  best of luck
                  thx blib your reply make me feel i am not that worth as they see me
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                  • Profile picture of the author Eric Lovelace
                    I would say focus is the key. If your good at selling clickbank products focus on that.
                    If your good at setting up google adwords, seem like you were to be able to get $400. Even though you spent $1500, and the campaign did show a loss;you still got something and you probably just needed to tweak the campaign; also were you at the same time trying to build a list or sending them straight to an affiliate offer or product review page?
                    I would say, focus on a niche you may have some interest in, wheher it be weight loss, etc, etc. Set up a squeeze page that gets people on your list,send traffic to that squeeze page, and last build relationships with that list all the while finding out their problems, and offering solutions to those problems (aff products).

                    Take care of your list and they'll take care of you.

                    Eric

                    If you do that
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              • Profile picture of the author Mona76
                [QUOTE=BobTheBostonian;8301450]I wouldn't hire you based on what you've revealed here: an inability to think laterally to solve problems and a propensity to blame others instead of taking responsibility for your current situation. Unfortunately, these are the same reasons you won't be running your own business anytime soon either.did you read six years trying to l earn internet maketing to earn money
                that means i have the ability to solve alot of problems not to mention here
                and i dont blame anyone ,
                i have a question for you when you start to earn money online and how? was it in the first day ?did you find good people or perfect course helped you ? or you invent it ?
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                • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
                  Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

                  did you read six years trying to l earn internet maketing to earn money
                  that means i have the ability to solve alot of problems not to mention here
                  No, it means the exact opposite. By your own admission you have made $400 in 6 years, gross. That's $67/year, $5.56/month, $0.18/day. Gross. I don't know what taxes are like in Egypt. By your own admission you spent about 4 times that just to make that paltry sum, and you've spent "thousands" elsewhere to make nothing on the investment.

                  Look, I'm not trying to be mean here but going by your own story you have the exact opposite of problem solving skills where Internet Marketing is concerned. When you haven't made it after six years it is not the system that is the problem: it's you.

                  And if that seems "harsh" as someone else put it? Well that's the entire problem. You've had smoke blown up your a** so long by flashy sales letters from crap marketers that you literally don't have the ability to see fault in yourself anymore.


                  and i dont blame anyone ,
                  Manal, really now?

                  and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do


                  i have a question for you when you start to earn money online and how?
                  I identified a market and sold to it. Less than two years ago.

                  was it in the first day ?
                  First month.

                  did you find good people or perfect course helped you ? or you invent it ?
                  Hybrid. If I knew how to do this crap from birth I would have done it from birth. Spit in the air and it'll land on ten people that have a $7 way to "make money" at this place. Pick one at random. It's what I did (different forum but same marketplace/price range); but I realized something: the person doing the teaching either a) wasn't going to know s*** or b) wasn't going to tell me enough to be able to just go through the motions if they did.

                  I've put in thousands of hours at this point taking basic ideas and researching, testing, and optimizing until they work the way that I needed them to work. I've blown hundreds on ideas that when seen through to the end are absolute bullcrap. Unlike you I didn't blame whoever came up with the idea. I ditched it and moved on. Personal responsibility, the cost of doing business, all that jazz.

                  You though? You keep waiting for someone to give you the perfect system, someone to give you a job, someone to do this for you.

                  You're going to have a bad time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
    but i think the problem is not the english
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Did you follow all of your coach's instructions to the letter? Did you persist or gave up too quickly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      never gave up but he has nothing to help me with
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  • Profile picture of the author owais211
    Banned
    I would suggest you try out on new tricks ,
    Maybe you can try other new a avenues?
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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    1. English is not the problem, I've seen many marketers (including me) who has the worst english ever. But still they're making plenty of money.

    You're problem:- you were doing something that you're not meant to. You're not interested in doing it. The coach was just leading you like a puppet and you were following him in dream of making money. Your niche was wrong.

    Now, you lack investing skills and knowledge so I'll push you to learn more here, at least for a week and then come up with the best money making idea which suits you. Then take action.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by twister85 View Post

      1. English is not the problem, I've seen many marketers (including me) who has the worst english ever. But still they're making plenty of money.

      You're problem:- you were doing something that you're not meant to. You're not interested in doing it. The coach was just leading you like a puppet and you were following him in dream of making money. Your niche was wrong.

      Now, you lack investing skills and knowledge so I'll push you to learn more here, at least for a week and then come up with the best money making idea which suits you. Then take action.

      Good luck!
      thats very kind from you thx
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  • Profile picture of the author vare
    Look Mona, if you are alwas seeking the courses to watch and don't do anything you will never have progress.
    It's also depends what courses you watching. For example, from my point of view I would like to recommend the AffiloBlueprint.

    Watch the course, following it and take action!

    Regards
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  • Profile picture of the author Cassano 10
    Make mbti test to find what is your field.
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  • Profile picture of the author muffty
    Hi Mona,

    I've got the feeling you were given some bad advice - with the language restriction you have I think you'd be better off to keep things as simple as possible!

    Give some thought to what you can do and make a plan - either building a simple web site and offering a service or affiliate product - start getting some FREE traffic to the site and go from there - it will take time! Just focus on that one site and do a little bit to move it forward everyday!

    I suggest you keep well clear of PAID Traffic in future! (until you have more of an idea of what you're doing!)

    >>> There are plenty of Links online to learn all about getting FREE Traffic!

    Don't give up!

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
    BobTheBostonian I hope you read the post correctly in the first time, she spent over $1k to make $400, so no she didn't make money. The fact she stopped was a smart move.

    No, Manal made money. Manal put in work, time, and money and received money in return for products or services. What Manal didn't do was profit. It's a very important distinction, and basic for anyone that does business instead of just talking about it.

    As far as being smart to stop? Manal doesn't know that, and you're foolish for suggesting that you do. You know nothing about the specific methods used to generate that revenue, or what testing was done to try and optimize it.

    But hey, at least you tried to get a zinger in there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      [QUOTE=BobTheBostonian;8302582]BobTheBostonian I hope you read the post correctly in the first time, she spent over $1k to make $400, so no she didn't make money. The fact she stopped was a smart move.

      No, Manal made money. Manal put in work, time, and money and received money in return for products or services. What Manal didn't do was profit. It's a very important distinction, and basic for anyone that does business instead of just talking about it.
      I didnt recieve the money because i paid it on google adwords
      As far as being smart to stop? Manal doesn't know that,


      yes i stopped because its not earning its a loss


      and you're foolish


      please be nice
      for suggesting that you do. You know nothing about the specific methods used to generate that revenue, or what testing was done to try and optimize it.
      You r only the person who s know?..?..?.
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      • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
        [quote=Mona76;8302790]
        Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

        BobTheBostonian I hope you read the post correctly in the first time, she spent over $1k to make $400, so no she didn't make money. The fact she stopped was a smart move.

        No, Manal made money. Manal put in work, time, and money and received money in return for products or services. What Manal didn't do was profit. It's a very important distinction, and basic for anyone that does business instead of just talking about it.
        I didnt recieve the money because i paid it on google adwords
        As far as being smart to stop? Manal doesn't know that,


        yes i stopped because its not earning its a loss


        and you're foolish


        please be nice
        for suggesting that you do. You know nothing about the specific methods used to generate that revenue, or what testing was done to try and optimize it.
        You r only the person who s know?..?..?.
        You're gonna go far, kid.

        :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Mona76
          [quote=BobTheBostonian;8302864]
          Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post


          You're gonna go far, kid.

          :rolleyes:

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          • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian


            Anger is useless if you're not going to do anything productive with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
      Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post


      and you're foolish for suggesting that you do.
      When you start offending other members on this forum , it is a sign that you went too far.
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      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
        Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

        When you start offending other members on this forum , it is a sign that you went too far.
        With comments like that, I don't see a very long future for Bob on this forum
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      • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
        Originally Posted by onegoodman View Post

        When you start offending other members on this forum , it is a sign that you went too far.
        I guess I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this gif after all:



        Now get over it. Business isn't the place for weak egos. Don't like being challenged? Say smarter things.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mona76
          I got this offer but i dont have enough money to start but he can coach me for free if i get him one student or you maybe help me to earn 200 $ this month to start what do you think ? here is the offer
          I can teach you how to create profitable affiliate campaigns while teaching you all about marketing at the same time. Here's the two mentoring options I offer...


          Option 1. I take you under my wing and teach you everything I know 1 on 1. We start from scratch and work on an affiliate marketing campaign together. This will teach you the fundamentals and what it takes to create a profitable campaign from the start.


          I work with you to make sure you understand what it takes to do affiliate marketing on your own. I will literally be working with you as long as you need me and we will always be in contact when ever you need me. This is all about building business relationships and it isn't about the money. The mentoring fee for this option is $250. I won't see a single penny of profit out of that. I don't mentor people for a living otherwise I would be charging $3,000+. I don't do it for the money. All I ask for is just a small amount to pay for the time I will be investing in you.


          Option 2 is the same as option 1, except instead of working from scratch to get a profitable campaign running. I will give you a campaign that's already making $20-$30 per day profit. This has two major benefits.


          1. You get to learn from day one what a profitable campaign looks like so it's easier to teach you.


          2. You will be making your investment back from day 1. You will make your mentoring investment back within 2-3 weeks.


          This mentoring option is $500. It comes with everything option 1 comes with (I'll even be working with you to start up a campaign from scratch).


          Which ever option you pick, this is how it will play out day by day...


          Day 1, I get you into a CPA network (and I send you over the landing page for you to upload to your website if you choose option 2). We create your marketing campaign and get everything setup so you can start sending traffic to it. Once your approved traffic starts coming in and you start making money.


          Day 2 I'll send you some material to look over and start explaining the process to you of how it all works. I'll also talk about how you can start scaling the campaign I send you (option 2).


          Day 2-3 we will begin work a new campaign from scratch to show you the process from the beginning. We will pick an offer and begin creating the landing page and marketing campaign.


          Day 4 we test and split test the offer.


          Day 4-7 we continue to split test the offer and go over new material. At this point you should begin to profit from that new campaign. (option 2 you begin profiting from day 1).


          Day 8-10 we continue to work on the campaigns and scale them as high as possible. I'll also be sharing more material for you to read and look over. At this point you should be making at least $30-$40+ profit per day. And after that we continue to work on the campaigns and scale them up and I continue to teach you.


          This continues until you I teach you everything I know and you feel you are confident to do everything on your own. I will also be there for you if you ever need my advice and guidance down the road forever.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mona76
          Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

          I guess I'm going to get a lot of mileage out of this gif after all:



          Now get over it. Business isn't the place for weak egos. Don't like being challenged? Say smarter things.
          I am not weak bob. i ll succes more than you and earn money more than you
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          • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
            Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

            I am not weak bob. i ll succes more than you and earn money more than you
            Ooh, is that some life I see? Only took 60 posts. If it takes an enemy to get you to do something, I love playing the villain. You just let me know cupcake.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mona76
              back to life when i get this offer but still there s a prob with the money to invest
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            • Profile picture of the author Mona76
              Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

              Ooh, is that some life I see? Only took 60 posts. If it takes an enemy to get you to do something, I love playing the villain. You just let me know cupcake.
              If you didnt see life here from the first post i think this is not about me
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          • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
            Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

            I am not weak bob. i ll succes more than you and earn money more than you
            Mona (or whatever your name is)

            Bob has actually given quite good advice.

            If after 6 years you can't make a profit in the field that you're in, then I highly doubt that anyone will be able to give you a magic formula that will suddenly bring you thousands of dollars.

            Whether you realise it or not, your attitude towards improvement leaves much to be desired. As another poster pointed out, you seem to lack the entrepreneurial mindset that is NECESSARY to succeed in an IM career.

            Put simply, you should probably do something else.

            That being said, I will give you some advice in the form of three simple questions that will help you guide the way forward.

            1. What are you good at?

            2. How can you turn this into a product or service?

            3. How can you market your product/service?

            Whether or not you want to heed this advice is totally up to you, although I doubt you will.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yassine Labouch
    Hi Mona, try to learn about, and try to not spend a lot of money, because you will lose everything if you do this strategy, try to learn some free stuff, because this busness need a lot of learning to be successful
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Popowa
    Mona76, here is my honest advice to you. For six years you've probably gather tons of information and you have some knowledge. You mentioned that you've build Facebook page and its got 50K fans within few month.

    1) open Word and write down step-by-step how you've builded this Facebook page and got 50K fans
    2) go to Fiverr and hire for $5 someone to edit your Word document and make corrections with language and sentences
    3) convert this Word document into PDF format
    4) from here you can go 2 ways:

    give away for free on this forum with the link to your squeeze page to collect emails OR
    create website and sell this Facebook report for $10 or $27 or $47 depend how many pages your report.

    5) rinse and repeat

    Wishing you success and please take action, don't just read what people say to you, take ACTION!
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  • Profile picture of the author davegarcia939
    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    Well then the problem was with your strategy
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  • Profile picture of the author SamirSM
    Hey guys...this thread seems to be going in two diff directions.

    Here's what I think:
    There are two kinds of people in IM or any other business:

    1.The kind who invent stuff on their own or with minimal help.

    2.The kind who follow detailed plans laid out by others with minimal improv.

    Mona or Manal or whoever (name doesn't really matter anyway) is clearly the second kind.

    So why don't you try earning without spending?

    Clearly, you don't have the requisite language skills (English anyway) AS OF NOW.

    So, either avoid content creation or focus on Twitter and other media where you don't NEED to have a grasp of grammar, sentence structure and vocabulary.

    Alternatively, be the middle man (or woman or whatever). Get the articles from somewhere for FREE (to begin with), sell them elsewhere and make a profit (you could try posting free ads on forums for article writing and marketing AND/OR freelancing websites). Getting the articles for FREE with the promise of payment on sale is also a decent start if you can get such writers.

    YOU HAVE TO FILL A VOID!

    You can't just expect others to create opportunities for you. Either they will or they won't. Chances are they'd rather fill those voids themselves. So, find a void of your own!

    You could try translation jobs from English to Egyptian, if your Egyptian is good enough and you can understand English well enough.

    English is perhaps the fifth language (including dialects) I'd learnt in the first 7-8 years of my life, and have gone on to learn another 6-7 in the remaining 15 years or so. I simply can't understand how someone can understand a language and yet not be able to create a single error-free phrase in it. Anyway, that's up to you to deal with.

    You can't just dig a hole somewhere, pile the soil somewhere else and ask someone to pay for the effort.

    The first place must need to be dug up AND/OR the second place should be one which needs to be filled or raised!

    If you can't spend time and money on article marketing and adwords campaigns, then don't!

    The seed you sow can't turn into a tree with some other DNA

    Focus on what you CAN do rather than what others HAVE done.

    If you are doing neither the tough stuff nor the smart stuff, how do you expect to make any dough?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      maybe i was inneed of talking to people can understand me but you though i blame and not responsible and bad english and and.....dont know what to say my dream is to work online as this is the only choise to earn some money and feell alive as a person can do things and success .i ll not cry although there are treas in my eyes .i ll go on and never give up
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      • Profile picture of the author atomAnt
        Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

        maybe i was inneed of talking to people can understand me but you though i blame and not responsible and bad english and and.....dont know what to say my dream is to work online as this is the only choise to earn some money and feell alive as a person can do things and success .i ll not cry although there are treas in my eyes .i ll go on and never give up
        Reading your posts, my advice is to focus on copywriting. At this early stage you shouldn't be spending money on coaching. Instead, focus your energy and attention on learning how to write good ad copy. This will get you some traction. It will help your english language skills too.

        Take the money you are spending on advanced methods and use it to get some good books on copywriting. Read them and practice rewriting their examples. Learn english through your writing.

        Only after that should you start investing in coaching and courses. This is probably 6 months from now if you are industrious. A year and a half if you are preoccupied with other things.

        When you "get it," it will be like pennies falling from heaven. Then you will be back here giving advice on how you went from broke to earning lots of shekels with mini-authority sites or amazon or whatever you eventually land into.
        Good Luck to You !
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        • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
          Originally Posted by atomAnt View Post

          Reading your posts, my advice is to focus on copywriting. At this early stage you shouldn't be spending money on coaching. Instead, focus your energy and attention on learning how to write good ad copy. This will get you some traction. It will help your english language skills too.

          Take the money you are spending on advanced methods and use it to get some good books on copywriting. Read them and practice rewriting their examples. Learn english through your writing.

          Only after that should you start investing in coaching and courses. This is probably 6 months from now if you are industrious. A year and a half if you are preoccupied with other things.

          When you "get it," it will be like pennies falling from heaven. Then you will be back here giving advice on how you went from broke to earning lots of shekels with mini-authority sites or amazon or whatever you eventually land into.
          Good Luck to You !
          I'm sorry but you have someone who can barely speak intelligible English and your advice is to focus on copywriting?

          Why waste time attempting to do something that you're not good at and that will take YEARS to work at?
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          • Profile picture of the author atomAnt
            Originally Posted by DTGeorge View Post

            I'm sorry but you have someone who can barely speak intelligible English and your advice is to focus on copywriting?

            Why waste time attempting to do something that you're not good at and that will take YEARS to work at?
            Normally I would agree but she remarked that she's gone through many courses and coaching over several years in IM. Does she sound like an advanced marketer?

            Her story has stirred up lively debate among folks trying to help.

            Copywriting. It's a fundamental marketing skill.

            Learning to communicate clearly through writing basic ad copy in english can only help.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      [QUOTE=SamirSM;8303304]Hey guys...this thread seems to be going in two diff directions.

      Here's what I think:
      There are two kinds of people in IM or any other business:

      1.The kind who invent stuff on their own or with minimal help.

      2.The kind who follow detailed plans laid out by others with minimal improv.

      I am the second i can follow insturctions
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

        2.The kind who follow detailed plans laid out by others with minimal improv.

        I am the second i can follow insturctions
        I was going to post and say the problem is that you expect others to tell you what to do. You have just confirmed that.

        If all you want to do is follow instructions, then you should become a Virtual Assistant or some other paid position.

        IM is not for people who can only follow instructions. It is for entrepreneurs. For people who can test, make decisions, work out strategies, analyse what works and what doesn't and try new things based on the results of their analysis. It is for people who can research a market, adapt and change.

        By your own admission you are not one of those. It's no good expecting someone else to tell you what to do. It won't happen. Stop buying courses and expecting them to magically work if all you are prepared to do is follow instructions.

        You'd be much better off listing the skills you do have and offering your services as a Virtual Assistant to an Internet Marketer - maybe even one based in your own country. Take a look at the Warriors for Hire section.
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  • Profile picture of the author flovin
    There are already many topics on this subject. Just do a search and there will be
    legitimate answers for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author arkina
    Sorry to hear about your troubles. I think hiring someone else to write was a ood move because as you pointed out English might be an issue (if you are publishing in English). I don't know what you are trying to sell or writing about so it is hard to give you specific advice. Are you 100% married to the idea of internet marketing? Would you be willing to do something else from home? There are call centers that hire people from home, data entry jobs, and search engine work, to just name a few things. They won't make you rich, but they will make you money. I am not sure what links I can post here but there are sites like real ways to make money online and munnyfromhome at blogspot which list these jobs for you or you can google for them.

    If you really do want to keep up with the internet marketing, instead of buying more lessons and coaching, maybe invest in a company to help you with SEO and backlinking. You can find some people/ companies who do this cheaply on Fiverr. Also, use social media! Pin your pages to pintrest, share it on facebook and twitter, and stumbleupon it!

    Good luck!!
    Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

    Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn ,you think iam idiot and its my problem.i see all of you say you earn $100 daily and 1000s monthly but i just hear but never earn .
    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do like buy a domain name i buy ,set up a wordpress site i do,put affliate links i do ,how to get traffic he told me to write more articles which is not working even i hire someone to write me,he just telling me things to do any one know it and doesnt work at all i lost one thousand doller and this is not a small amount and when i tried to contact [name removed]through our skype group and ask him to help he just blocked me from the room .
    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
    If you pass through all of this sure you can help me .I have alot of financial responsibilities.
    sorry for my bad english but i can understand you well

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  • Profile picture of the author MKCookins
    Making money online is on all that difficult -- but people make it out to be.

    They key is to focus on simple basics and stick with them until you see results. Also no matter what method you use to make money -- you should ALWAYS build your email list.

    If all you do is build yourself an email list of active subscribers who know like and trust you -- then you can sell any product ( as long as it's good) and make money.

    With list building you also need traffic!

    I would focus on two free methods and become a master of them. Once you have done this -- I would then focus on one paid maid and master that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sergio Zekanovic
      Maybe your English is not the main reason. Try to find something different to do, something you really understand, and then apply in on-line business.
      Do more research on that subject, start from scratch, and then invest money to get required tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author abs007
    Hi, Please can you contact me - I think I can help you make money if you are happy for me to use what we do as a case study ?

    If so then please contact me

    thanks

    Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

    Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn ,you think iam idiot and its my problem.i see all of you say you earn $100 daily and 1000s monthly but i just hear but never earn .
    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do like buy a domain name i buy ,set up a wordpress site i do,put affliate links i do ,how to get traffic he told me to write more articles which is not working even i hire someone to write me,he just telling me things to do any one know it and doesnt work at all i lost one thousand doller and this is not a small amount and when i tried to contact [name removed]through our skype group and ask him to help he just blocked me from the room .
    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
    If you pass through all of this sure you can help me .I have alot of financial responsibilities.
    sorry for my bad english but i can understand you well

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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by abs007 View Post

      Hi, Please can you contact me - I think I can help you make money if you are happy for me to use what we do as a case study ?

      If so then please contact me

      thanks
      thank you i cant contact you here i cant sent you private massege
      can you sent me your skype id?
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  • Profile picture of the author guynextdoor
    spent over $1k to make $400
    There is a overlooked lesson here: With your money, Google earned, The product creator earned, CB earned... Those 3 made money online !

    You are on the wrong side of the chain! Be smarter - the solution is right there!
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Hi Mona76:

    It is hard work to make money. Maybe you can write a book about your troubles and tribulations and people on this site can edit it for you. It would help newbies that are just starting out now. Most of us make many mistakes when we first start out and feel discouraged about our lack of progress. Please keep on fighting and do not give up. Remember that hard work is the secret of our success.
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  • Profile picture of the author hardworker2013
    I am trying to understand the part where you say you cannot work because you have 2 children. There are women with more than 2 children and they work. The million dollar question is where are the children's father in all of this?
    Oh! i forgot this is an internet marketing forum LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by hardworker2013 View Post

      I am trying to understand the part where you say you cannot work because you have 2 children. There are women with more than 2 children and they work. The million dollar question is where are the children's father in all of this?
      Oh! i forgot this is an internet marketing forum LOL
      I didnt say i cant work but it is not easy to work at home and 2 childeren beside you one of them is 18 months
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  • Profile picture of the author atomAnt
    Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

    Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn...
    You have been at this 6 years, gone through multiple courses, paid $1,000 to a coach, but you joined WF just a couple of months ago? There's something missing. I can't quite get my paws around what it is.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by atomAnt View Post

      You have been at this 6 years, gone through multiple courses, paid $1,000 to a coach, but you joined WF just a couple of months ago? There's something missing. I can't quite get my paws around what it is.
      I have account from 7 years with whydowork.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Geri Richmond
    Hi,

    Maybe you and your coach were not a good match. One thing I know for sure is that you have to be persistent. You can't give up. There are tons of ways to make money online, you just have to find the right fit.
    I am very blessed that I have a good coach. If you want her name and email address. send me a message. She is very knowledgeable and honest. I am not receiving compensation for giving out her name. I think she's the bomb!
    Good luck
    Geri Richmond
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  • Profile picture of the author RoseHunt
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    Well just keep trying and don't give up. Maybe the problem is that instead of focusing on just one thing to do, we try too many things on small businesses at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author gregdavidson727
    Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

    Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn ,you think iam idiot and its my problem.i see all of you say you earn $100 daily and 1000s monthly but i just hear but never earn .
    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do like buy a domain name i buy ,set up a wordpress site i do,put affliate links i do ,how to get traffic he told me to write more articles which is not working even i hire someone to write me,he just telling me things to do any one know it and doesnt work at all i lost one thousand doller and this is not a small amount and when i tried to contact [name removed]through our skype group and ask him to help he just blocked me from the room .
    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
    If you pass through all of this sure you can help me .I have alot of financial responsibilities.
    sorry for my bad english but i can understand you well

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    It sounds like internet marketing is your problem. Stick with a marketplace like Ebay so you don't have to do any marketing. You can sell ebooks, websites, submission services and stuff like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    Have you noticed that Mona has answered almost everyone except me. I wonder why? Care to explain Mona? What's wrong with listing your skills in the Warriors for Hire section and finding work as a VA?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

      Have you noticed that Mona has answered almost everyone except me. I wonder why? Care to explain Mona? What's wrong with listing your skills in the Warriors for Hire section and finding work as a VA?
      I am sorryfor not answering you ? but i dont know how to do it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brannigans
    Hey man,

    There's absolutely no need to invest in any more training. You said you've already spent money on IM training? You said you've built up a fair bit of knowledge over the years?

    Now is the time to put it into action. Take action every day and STICK TO THE PLAN until you start making money.

    Don't be afraid to take on the big niches. Loads of people are marketing in Weight loss and make money on line niches for one reason - there's plenty of money to be made.

    Don't go for some obscure niche where people aren't desperate. It won't work.

    A strategy? Build a squeeze page, give away something awesome and then market to your list. It really is that simple. Set up that basic sales funnel and then you just need to drive traffic to it.

    How do you drive traffic? PICK ONE METHOD and stick to it until you are getting the amount of traffic you need.

    FB / Youtube / SEO / PPC / article marketing etc are all great methods and they ALL work.

    How do i do generate traffic? Forum posting of course. It's a fantastic way to help people out and send traffic to your site. Provide awesome value to them and you can't go wrong.

    Also you already know how to post in forums. think of how much time you've been posting in this thread. You're a pro at it already.

    Over to you bro - good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author dean20653
      Originally Posted by Brannigans View Post

      Hey man,

      There's absolutely no need to invest in any more training. You said you've already spent money on IM training? You said you've built up a fair bit of knowledge over the years?

      Now is the time to put it into action. Take action every day and STICK TO THE PLAN until you start making money.

      Don't be afraid to take on the big niches. Loads of people are marketing in Weight loss and make money on line niches for one reason - there's plenty of money to be made.

      Don't go for some obscure niche where people aren't desperate. It won't work.

      A strategy? Build a squeeze page, give away something awesome and then market to your list. It really is that simple. Set up that basic sales funnel and then you just need to drive traffic to it.

      How do you drive traffic? PICK ONE METHOD and stick to it until you are getting the amount of traffic you need.

      FB / Youtube / SEO / PPC / article marketing etc are all great methods and they ALL work.

      How do i do generate traffic? Forum posting of course. It's a fantastic way to help people out and send traffic to your site. Provide awesome value to them and you can't go wrong.

      Also you already know how to post in forums. think of how much time you've been posting in this thread. You're a pro at it already.

      Over to you bro - good luck
      I think this is good Advice, Except the PPC (Stay away from that for now!) Free traffic is the best traffic

      Start With 1 Niche Work it, Test it, and them move to others. Crawl before you walk but Don't spend any more money (except 20 dollars for a website and hosting) Even Still Im Sure you could build a FB opt in page and get traffic that way, 50K likes would make a Heck of a List!

      IMO, Start small then tackle the big fish!

      But hey, Im a Newb too!

      Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
    i am sorry but this is not going to help me if someone want me to feel life and other ask me to keep trying and ,,,,,,.......how this going to help me? if iam hungry you must give me food or money to buy food not to ask me go and feel full
    i dont blame ,plz stop this way of talking
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      and those who keep sending me offers for coaching as they read my $1000 coach post.i want to say i dont have money ,it was money comes from selling my baby gifts when born ( dont blame me i wanted to make money hopping i ll buy better things) i dont have money anymore its true, very bad situation in egypt.
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    • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
      Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

      i am sorry but this is not going to help me if someone want me to feel life and other ask me to keep trying and ,,,,,,.......how this going to help me? if iam hungry you must give me food or money to buy food not to ask me go and feel full
      i dont blame ,plz stop this way of talking

      if iam hungry you must give me food or money to buy food
      And that is why you will never get anywhere.

      I would explain it to you but I highly doubt that you will understand.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mona76
        Originally Posted by DTGeorge View Post

        And that is why you will never get anywhere.

        I would explain it to you but I highly doubt that you will understand.
        So bad you assume i dont understand and the knowlage is only for you
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        • Profile picture of the author DTGeorge
          Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

          So bad you assume i dont understand and the knowlage is only for you
          The knowledge I have is easily and freely available. There is no need for anyone to hold your hand , you can gain the same knowledge that I have, but you have to be willing to learn and not hope for someone to give you a magic pill to make money.

          Only YOU can determine whether or not you will be successful. No amount of advice (and you have gotten some very good advice) will help you if you are not willing to follow it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ripster
    @OP, you don't have to buy courses to become successful. You can find free ones all over the internet on websites like YouTube, Udemy, and Scribid. People are aware of these websites yet they still tend to buy training courses hoping to become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author fpdeziner
    English is not the main reason, it does not guarantee success. As you mentioned that your coach has blocked you and not giving you any response, so it makes one thing very clear that your coach was not the real coach as meant to be. A true coach will help you always rather than ignoring.
    As you earned $400 once, so it means you have the guts to make it. Now what you need to do is to push the right button at the right time. Never lose hope, keep trying harder. Spend some time here always.
    Best of Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Never see any internet marketer or guru help newbie for free or even give a free base to start ,they just do this in sales copy only saddly .in fact my friend told me to post my story here and she challange me that every body here ll help me but hhhhaaaaaaa i win , just some uselesssadvises go on and keep on or you r bad .
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      • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
        Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

        Never see any internet marketer or guru help newbie for free or even give a free base to start ,they just do this in sales copy only saddly .in fact my friend told me to post my story here and she challange me that every body here ll help me but hhhhaaaaaaa i win , just some uselesssadvises go on and keep on or you r bad .
        You madam are a rude, ungrateful ****. You have been given some excellent advise in this thread - including the advice I gave you to list your skills and offer your services.

        If you are unable to list your skills, it implies that you have none. May I respectfully suggest that you get an offline job. You are clearly not suited to the online world.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mona76
          Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

          You madam are a rude, ungrateful ****. You have been given some excellent advise in this thread - including the advice I gave you to list your skills and offer your services.

          If you are unable to list your skills, it implies that you have none. May I respectfully suggest that you get an offline job. You are clearly not suited to the online world.
          You call me rude because you give me advise i see it useless and i tried it before noone hire someone with no experienceyou are angry about your free advise my god
          what if you give me how you make money you will kill me if i am not gratefull
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  • Profile picture of the author twister85
    I see no outcome of this thread. Maybe the warriors aren't suggesting well or the OP isn't taking action. anyway,

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    If you are able to make sales, you will simply need to test and tweak the campaign till it is profitable. Most people stop when you they are not making profits as they though that the campaign is not good. It simply just tell you that you will need to tweak it so that you will be able to make profits from your investment in the ads. Be ready to test your way to success.
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  • Profile picture of the author frettcarla
    Try to get more and more visitors rather than building links. The main target in any of the money earning program online is to get more no of visitors to the website and I think that is what you are lagging in.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineworkers
    Making an online presence without good English is very difficult. I have faced this and overcome with my English now, and now is the time to succeed in IM.
    Until you get a coaching you can target your products and services to your community in your mother tongue so you wont be away from IM. Then once you are ready you can enter this battlefield.

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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    @Mona76 - Respectfully, you are going through a learning curve and have been spending time doing things which aren't generating results for you. If you've been online for six years and not made any money, you are not working hard enough. Seriously, what have you been doing for six whole years? How long does it take to set up a campaign, build a wordpress site and write those articles? Quite often people will say how long they have been online and not made a 'cent', but when you drill down you find out they haven't actually done a whole lot or stuck with anything for long enough. I'm giving you some 'tough love' here. Find a good coach, someone who you can be accountable to and do what they advise you to do if you want to break this cycle. If you're feeling angry, harness that emotion to refuse to fail, but direct it inwardly to do something great, not outwardly where you are bitter about the world and what has happened thus far. The past is not your future. Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by DeanJames View Post

      @Mona76 - Respectfully, you are going through a learning curve and have been spending time doing things which aren't generating results for you. If you've been online for six years and not made any money, you are not working hard enough. Seriously, what have you been doing for six whole years? How long does it take to set up a campaign, build a wordpress site and write those articles? Quite often people will say how long they have been online and not made a 'cent', but when you drill down you find out they haven't actually done a whole lot or stuck with anything for long enough. I'm giving you some 'tough love' here. Find a good coach, someone who you can be accountable to and do what they advise you to do if you want to break this cycle. If you're feeling angry, harness that emotion to refuse to fail, but direct it inwardly to do something great, not outwardly where you are bitter about the world and what has happened thus far. The past is not your future. Good luck!
      Thank you your reply make my day
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  • Profile picture of the author johotara
    I think you need to be more careful.The coach was just leading you like a puppet and you were following him in dream of making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
    Oh, look who's back. Have you done anything during the past ten days?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

      Oh, look who's back. Have you done anything during the past ten days?
      Crying ,ha aaa as you think about me but ,
      in fact i join ultamaite cycler .com its a 2*2 matrix i dont like this but maybe i can do some money to start again with new website since i lost my others website because not paying the monthly fees
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  • Profile picture of the author karlos1968
    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    YES, the problem is in YOU... Sorry for saying that, but it's the true.

    I had the same problem. I did everything what others were doing, I bought 1000's of courses, etc and no money... 3 years of only "losing money". Than in one month I started making money, doing the same things that I did before.....

    I found a Mentor (my actual and forever Mentor) that the the 1st thing he told me was:

    - YES, the problem is in YOU..-

    The problem was in my MINDSET.

    And your problem is in YOUR mindset. Believe me.. The problem is not only in your strategies...

    I you need help, I can share with you some techniques that I learned about mindset and the same techniques that I use now... Simple techniques... Big results...
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  • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
    Crying ,ha aaa as you think about me but ,
    in fact i join ultamaite cycler .com its a 2*2 matrix i dont like this but maybe i can do some money to start again with new website since i lost my others website because not paying the monthly fees


    I'm assuming you just can't spell and you mean ultimatecycler? LOL, you just don't want to learn from your mistakes at this point. We'll see you when you come back and talk about how they stole your money from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mona76
      Originally Posted by BobTheBostonian View Post

      Crying ,ha aaa as you think about me but ,
      in fact i join ultamaite cycler .com its a 2*2 matrix i dont like this but maybe i can do some money to start again with new website since i lost my others website because not paying the monthly fees


      I'm assuming you just can't spell and you mean ultimatecycler? LOL, you just don't want to learn from your mistakes at this point. We'll see you when you come back and talk about how they stole your money from you.
      oh my god they ll stole my money?.. last year i lost money with zeekler do you think they r similler?
      i just dont know what to do?
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      • Profile picture of the author BobTheBostonian
        Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

        oh my god they ll stole my money?.. last year i lost money with zeekler do you think they r similler?
        i just dont know what to do?
        Zeek was a Ponzi Scheme, this is a pyramid scheme. You are not selling or being sold a product or service. You're giving someone $25 so you can hopefully find other people to give you $25 for nothing more than the hope that they can find a ton of people to give them $25. Cringe.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mona76
          bobthebostonian read my last post this is what i was trying to explain but you keep saying its your mind
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  • Profile picture of the author Geri Richmond
    Hi,
    I'm sorry for your frustrations. Affiliate marketing is not as easy as some people make it out to be. Have you tried any of the free traffic methods? Have you tried Craigslist? Might be able to get some traffic and sales from there. I have an informational blog. If you PM me I'll give you the link. You might get some ideas there.
    Good luck,
    Geri Richmond
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikaedi88
    Great for the good advice been given to Mona, though I question whether being rude and mean is being helpful..

    @Mona, take the good advice and go with it, get involved in this great forum, join the War Room as paid member for under $40.00, it's worth it and invaluable..

    More important...don't give up, you've had some setbacks, for the good of your family, rise above it...

    Mikaedi88
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  • Profile picture of the author flovin
    Some have spent thousands but have not earned a single cent. The point is not to give up and come to this forum more often. You can get more invaluable info here.
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  • Profile picture of the author ptcrefko
    I see your frustrations, I will not judge you if you think their advice is useless. I know probably you don't have the skills to write,create website and etc... So selling a service will not be for you. And your English is not good and we are the same. English is not your primary language so why go fishing that is not your territory and you don't know anything about?. How do you write your content if English is not your primary language? will you always outsource the article?. You probably always loose money.

    Go make a site locally. Don't go fishing in the ocean if you can go fishing in a pond. Ok you will say they are only freebie seeker you will not able to sell anything. Don't worry about that there are many ways to make money with freebie seeker like CPA.

    Okay here what you gonna do

    1st: Brain storming (what your country always love(niche) celebrity,pets,fashion.gadgets etc. Figure out what they are looking always and love.

    2nd: if you find what niche they are always looking go create a site in that niche in your own language. Because it will be easy to rank if your words are locally. Yes its very low like 800 searches per month or lower its okay at least you will not compete with the big boys.

    Ex: Dog lovers(chosen niche)

    a} make a contest website with membership fee like .10 cents per month( why too cheap? because you don't want them to feel that you are making money out of them.

    computation: 0.10 x 10,000(members)=1,000 dollars per month but what if you get 10,000 or even 100,000 you do the math.

    I think its legal its a membership site is your selling not the contest, but I don't know your country so ask your government.

    Your accumulated money will be the money to buy something that will be given to the winner. Like win puppy,accessories,free grooming. You should always do inventory as always. To make more money sell ad space make a CPA offers. DON'T SCAM THEM!

    Remember: Don't go fishing in the ocean if you can go fishing in a pond. Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author ptcrefko
    And another suggestion don't make yourself to be a follower always, make yourself to be a leader that can be follow.
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  • Profile picture of the author dustindustin
    Internet remains an undiscoverable teritory so there are spaces for oppurtunity for making money available, btw have you tried using Youtube Adsense? It's a nice gem for making money there
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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
    i still didnt get any help the situation in egypt is very bad and i need to work online my big problem now is egyptain paypal account cant recieve money if i got something to work i cant recieve money
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    • Profile picture of the author Walt Serdville
      Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

      i still didnt get any help the situation in egypt is very bad and i need to work online my big problem now is egyptain paypal account cant recieve money if i got something to work i cant recieve money
      Not to say BobTheBostonian is wrong in any way but seriously this fella here deserves a break for staying SO persistant after all the hateful feedback.

      Mona, you've taken THE 1# thing to SUCCEED in the world of big&wide interwebs. Which is taking action. You've done it! You're about 95% ahead of the game in the masses of people who are trying to make it.

      Lets keep this very simple. Basics.

      You haven't really revealed us your skillset, your strengths but I'm going to assume, from the fact that you have a decent diploma, that you're quite the fast learner and adjustable to situations.. What you need is to find anything that would work and then scale it up.

      Now what that anything could be?
      There are endless options such as:
      • eCommerce
      • Social Media Managing
      • Blogging
      • Video Marketing
        et cetera..
      Have you tried anything OTHER than trying to sell whatever your coach made you sell? There are so many different things in this huge field of IM. Play on your strengths.

      Wish I could be more specific but you don't really ask anything specific either.. What makes money? ANYTHING does. All niches work.

      You could make 100 youtube videos copying someone's video-seo and rank foolproof 2# to whatever the original person was ranking for. Natural traffic.

      You could make 100 Hubpages and promote Amazon products on it.

      You could spam forums, like this, with annoying signature links with absolutelly crazed phrases into your 'authority site' that offers free report on how to make money online and then have a downsell on it. Bound to work because people are AS NAIVE AS YOU WERE. (This is done daily on WF)

      Hope this helped.

      You're a persistent man/woman and the internet has no boundries..

      (PS! Please PM the name of the couch who acted up like that on you. I feel your pain and want to make sure I'd keep away from whoever he was)


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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
    i tried ebay listing and i earned 24 $ last week but they suspend my account because i used my friend from portugal his paypal account
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  • Profile picture of the author azulita
    Please don´t give up. I know is hard but keep trying. Here in the Warrior Forum you can find so much stuff for free. Also you can purchase Done for you Funnels at a very reasonable prices here in Warrior Forum because I have done that and I had earn a Little bit of money. It helps to purchase when you dont know how to build funnels.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    You should license a product and then just drive traffic. All you will have to learn is traffic and you will keep 100% of the profits
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  • Profile picture of the author lofiegos
    Please do not give up! Look for valuable info here at WF. You will find your path, best of luck
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  • Profile picture of the author SumWoman
    Greetings!

    I just jointed this Forum... I didn't think I would be posting any comments for awhile because I didn't think I would any valuable information.

    You are from Egypt right? Get out there and start snapping photos!

    High Resolution photos of the revolution taking place now, the pyramids, luxor temple, sphinx... the people... do it with an inventive and creative style.

    Create an account at AllPosters and sell your photos as posters.

    Create an account at various Print on Demand sites and turn your photos into Posters, Postcards, Calendars and various other things.

    Account at POD (Print On Demand) and AllPosters are free.

    Make accounts at Blogger, Facebook and Twitter and promote each product.

    Also submit your photos to news sites... do research as to where you can sell photos to newspapers.

    Back in 2011, I posted an article to Squidoo, it was a short humorous article about the middle east which mentioned Egypt. I got hundreds and hundreds of visitors because just a day prior the revolution in Egypt had started. Many people were and still are looking for information about Egypt.

    Good Luck! Take Action.. Be positive... everywhere around you there are opportunities.
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  • Profile picture of the author SumWoman
    Greetings!

    I just jointed this Forum... I didn't think I would be posting any comments for awhile because I didn't think I would have any valuable information to share.

    You are from Egypt right? Get out there and start snapping photos!

    High Resolution photos of the revolution taking place now, the pyramids, luxor temple, sphinx... the people... do it with an inventive and creative style.

    Create an account at AllPosters and sell your photos as posters.

    Create an account at various Print on Demand sites and turn your photos into Posters, Postcards, Calendars and various other things.

    Account at POD (Print On Demand) and AllPosters are free.

    Make accounts at Blogger, Facebook and Twitter and promote each product.

    Also submit your photos to news sites... do research as to where you can sell photos to newspapers.

    Back in 2011, I posted an article to Squidoo, it was a short humorous article about the middle east which mentioned Egypt. I got hundreds and hundreds of visitors because just a day prior the revolution in Egypt had started. Many people were and still are looking for information about Egypt.

    Good Luck! Take Action.. Be positive... everywhere around you there are opportunities.
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  • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
    @SumWoman - that has to be the best suggestion yet in this thread. Now Mona has to find a way to receive money.
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    You should be able to offer a few gigs at Fiverr and start making money. This can be taking photos locally or simple things like that. Just evaluate and work on them. Don't give up and don't forget "no shortcuts on Internet Marketing"...
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  • Profile picture of the author zahanega
    if you understand the basics and how to implement the methods, the best thing you can do is stick with it. Don't give up and switch niches just because it isn't giving you huge profits. No one is ever successful at first - just focus and be persistent. good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffsolochek
    Originally Posted by Mona76 View Post

    Hello I am from manal from Egypt.I am trying to earn money online from six years and i never earn ,you think iam idiot and its my problem.i see all of you say you earn $100 daily and 1000s monthly but i just hear but never earn .
    i bought alot of courses and learned alot alot buy clickbank code and earned about 400 $ but i pay google adwords more than the triple of this amount to earn.
    and this was the only once i earned money online.the last time i join coaching program with [name removed] and i paid him $1000 for coaching with a coach never earn online from what he telling me to do like buy a domain name i buy ,set up a wordpress site i do,put affliate links i do ,how to get traffic he told me to write more articles which is not working even i hire someone to write me,he just telling me things to do any one know it and doesnt work at all i lost one thousand doller and this is not a small amount and when i tried to contact [name removed]through our skype group and ask him to help he just blocked me from the room .
    I am very angry ,if you think i am the problem i think no
    in fact iam a chemist and have a diploma in laser ray and its applications in industry but cant work because i have two sons one is 18 monthsand the other is 7 years.
    If you pass through all of this sure you can help me .I have alot of financial responsibilities.
    sorry for my bad english but i can understand you well

    [Edited by moderator: Do not name names, read the rules if you want to know why.]

    Have you done anything with Facebook? this is a very good place to advertise plus if you build up enough friends on Facebook you can then also post some links in yopur stus. Youtube is another market you should research. A lot of people are making a lot of money using Youtube.
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  • Profile picture of the author hbhanot
    You need coaching. Don't stop. Start all over. Tell yourself you are the best and you can and will do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mona76
    I want to thank all of you who trying to help meas i said in my last post i list a product in ebay and last week i earned 24$ but yesterday i get email from ebay they are suspend my account and when i call them she told me my account has risk issue maybe because my product is very compatitive for big names
    this is my feeling
    i am trying from six years and every thing i do and success in it i get problem in it
    did you try this before everytime you try to stand up you fail although you keep trying
    this is my feeling and my situation i am trying to explain
    is this success not for me
    maybe god has another plan to me
    go on or stop
    and why?
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  • Profile picture of the author joyfulwraps
    I agree with Twister85, there are tons of warriors making real money online and English is NOT a first language for them. There are plenty of ways to overcome any language barrier - many already mentioned in this thread.

    The most important keys of online success are:

    1. Take an inventory of your strengths and weaknesses

    2. Design a business plan around your strengths and outsource the work that involves your weaknesses

    3. You must take action to implement your business plan. Without a plan you will fail, not putting your business plan into action will result in failure

    4. Constantly educate yourself regarding making money online by attending webinars, and offline conventions

    5. You cannot put a price tag on a mentor, if one mentor fails to give you the assistance you need find another...you will have a very difficult time succeeding in any business online or offline without a mentor. It is the difference between climbing an unfamiliar mountain by yourself and having a mentor with a map climb beside you.

    6. Never give up on your dreams

    7. To obtain your dreams you must have clear defined goals that are measurable and attainable.

    Good luck!
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