Who can recommend good free spinner softwares?

by flovin
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  • Profile picture of the author NatesMarketing
    I thought this "spinning" phase was over.

    As for "good." - Paid ones don't do a "good" job as far as I'm concerned...so I'd imagine free ones to be even worse off.

    But, Google is probably your friend for this question.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by flovin View Post

    Who can recommend good free spinner softwares?
    Only people selling them, people selling services based on them, and former students of the Urban Myth of Internet Marketing.

    Spinning is nonsense.

    It's based on a fundamental misunderstanding.

    It's a "solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist" - and a solution of benefit only to people selling spinning software and services.

    Spinning is without value. It can damage your business, but it can't help you. Everyone who actually makes a living from article marketing (rather than from supplying spinning software or services) says the same things about spinning. And there are reasons for that.

    The whole thing is based on a fallacy, and a misunderstanding about what "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" mean and signify.

    The value of a backlink doesn't depend on whether the content to which it's attached is "unique" or "previously published": it depends on many other things, but that isn't one of them, and Google says so openly.

    For people open-minded enough to read them, the following six items explain much more, at greater length and in greater detail.
    • this post explains the benefits of spinning
    • the first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles
    • the advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here
    • on the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!)
    • this little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject
    • this post, and its links, explain in detail the closely related subject of how article directories really work and why they exist
    There's a further potential problem, too, which arises for anyone intending to use "mass/automated submission" of articles to article directories.

    When used for that purpose, these tools are effective enough to get your site heavily penalized by Google. What they're not effective enough to do is to give you any benefits worth having (and that was the case even before the recent Google updates).

    Take a look in the SEO Forum here. You'll find plenty of threads started off by people whose sites have been heavily penalized, and many of them have been openly told by Google that using automated submission software was the reason.

    Using this stuff this has no real benefits anyway: backlinks from article directories are worthless, for all the reasons explained in this and many other "article marketing" threads: How do Article Directories work? Even for a year or so before all the Panda updates of 2011 devalued article directory backlinks so much, SEO textbook writers were saying that you'd need literally tens of thousands of those "backlinks" to give you same linkjuice as that arising from one good backlink on a quality site specifically relevant to your niche.

    Something to keep well away from!

    These threads might also help anyone imagining that mass article directory submission might be a "good" thing to do:

    A problem with Article Marketing robot
    Content - Instant Article Wizard
    Is anyone still using Article Samurai?
    Sites with spammy backlinks
    Calling out bad tactics
    How to use Magic Submitter to create backlinks to my ecommerce site?
    Is Seo link robot a good software?
    Magic Submitter SENuke still useful?
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post


      It's a "solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist" - and a solution of benefit only to people selling spinning software and services.

      Spinning is without value. It can damage your business, but it can't help you. Everyone who actually makes a living from article marketing (rather than from supplying spinning software or services) says the same things about spinning. And there are reasons for that.

      The whole thing is based on a fallacy, and a misunderstanding about what "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" mean and signify.

      The value of a backlink doesn't depend on whether the content to which it's attached is "unique" or "previously published": it depends on many other things, but that isn't one of them, and Google says so openly.
      Alexa, as someone who does manual (!) spinning and has many clients who use my service I think I am competent to reply here, if you don't mind

      You talk about a "problem", but what is that problem supposed to be? My clients order spins when they require a multitude of, let's say, "semi-unique" content, for example for blog-networks where they want to spin-off a reasonable number of articles from one spin, as opposed to commission a new article each time. So..this also is an economical question for those clients who think that, say, 10 or 20 "spun out" articles from one initial seed spun article is a better (cheaper) alternative.

      You say (again) that duplicate content is not an issue and I think we could debate this, but I personally and neither any of my spinning clients would make a blog network or submit articles even with 1:1 copies of existing content.

      I am still puzzled that you always deny that "duplicate" content can have negative implications. Because, if a page of yours gets into the supplementary index at Google since Google sees the article you submitted is a duplicate, say, from ezine, ehow, wikipedia etc...then VERY WELL is the backlink "less worth". The entire idea of this is to keep "uniqueness" at a level so this doesn't happen.

      Of course the value of a backlink might depend on a ZILLION things, like PR, domain authority, age and whatever criteria Google has. If it's really so that Google (as you say) says that it entirely doesn't matter whether an article is in fact a dupe of, say, an ezine article, I would really like to see that statement.

      This would IMHO greatly contradict so many other things Google says about the value of new, helpful and unique content. I simply cant see Google saying that it doesn't matter, but be welcome do prove me the opposite.

      By the way, I do *only* manual spins and I am proud of the quality and readability of my spins. I want to emphasize that article spinning should NOT be seen as a "one-click-solution" to magically create "many new unique articles" using a spinner tool from some ezine article. But many people do see it like that. It needs to be done right, simple as that.

      By the way, example: Say a client wants to make a certain number of websites promoting a service. Now....let the client make 10 sites and have an identical copy on each of the sites. And then watch what happens. I can guarantee you that the ten sites will not rank simultaneously in Google, one will rank and 9 might be "hidden" because Google knows it's duplicates, so it would defy the purpose.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        Alexa, as someone who does manual (!) spinning and have a zillion of clients who use my service I think I am competent to reply there, if you don't mind
        Not at all - why would I mind?

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        You talk about a "problem", but what is that problem supposed to be?
        The "problem" (which people mistakenly think exists) is that they're going to incur some sort of penalty for widely submitting/syndicating an article without "making the content unique". For people who don't understand the difference between "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" that becomes a "problem". Not a real one, obviously. But that's what it's supposed (by them) to be.

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        My clients order spins when they require a multitude of, let's say, "semi-unique" content, for example for blog-networks where they want to spin-off a reasonable number of articles from one spin, as opposed to commission a new article each time.
        It's lucky for you, then, that they imagine that the value of the backlink attached to their content somehow, magically, varies according to whether the content to which it's attached has previously been published elsewhere. (I started off thinking that, myself, too, in 2008, until a large number of the article marketers here explained that it's completely wrong, and it turned out Google agreed with them and had said so in every possible medium at every possible opportunity without my knowing about it. But hey ... nobody was born knowing how to do this stuff, right? ).

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        So..this also is an economical question for those clients who think that, say, 10 or 20 "spun out" articles from one initial seed spun article is a better (cheaper) alternative.
        Difficult to see it being cheaper than using the same one, "un-spun", 10 or 20 times. That would produce the same result. (If it involves "submitting" the article to somewhere where they can get it "auto-accepted", it isn't a result worth having anyway, obviously, but your clients don't know that, just like they don't know that it would be exactly the same result as using "spun" content.)

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        You say (again) that duplicate content is not an issue and I think we could debate this
        Debate away, Georg.

        No amount of debate will change the fact that "syndicated content" and "duplicate content" are two different things.

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        I am still puzzled that you always deny that "duplicate" content can have negative implications.
        That would be puzzling indeed, but I don't say that.

        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        if a page of yours gets into the supplementary index at Google since Google sees the article you submitted is a duplicate, say, from ezine, ehow, wikipedia etc...then VERY WELL is the backlink "less worth".
        Sorry, but that's just nonsense, Georg. If you're suggesting that a backlink in the supplemental index is somehow worth less than one in the main index, you're going to be in a minority of one, I think. Even the people selling spinning software don't claim that (they couldn't: people would laugh at them).

        Michael ("DireStraits") explains it well, and clearly ...

        Originally Posted by DireStraits View Post

        Yep, precisely.

        Results depend on a site's overall SEO relevance to a given query. An article on site X can be in the supplemental index for one query while ranking normally on site Y for the same. But flipping the query can also change which incidence of your article is returned.

        In that respect, there's no such thing as "a page that lives in the supplemental index - full stop'; only one that's in there for certain queries, sometimes, and not for others at different times.

        On that basis, how could Google decide which article page gets to confer full backlink value and from which ones it is diminished or nonexistent?

        The answer is that it can't and it doesn't. And that's the inconvenient truth that pro-spinning lobbyists won't face up to, because it ever so slightly complicates the dilemma of how to effectively market their wares.
        That's from this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        I am still puzzled that you always deny that "duplicate" content can have negative implications.
        Me too! But for other, completely different reasons.

        As for spinning, back when I first started IM I was using TheBestSpinner and created "thin" AdSense websites (and made a whopping €100, which I used to pay hosting and buy domains). Needless to say, Uncle Google's pet, of Panda breed, slapped my websites to the bottom of the Internet. That thought me one valuable lesson: never depend on someone else for traffic, especially when they can change everything in a heart-beat.

        As a member here once said in his newsletter: "The game is rigged"

        You can never win with Google if you try to trick them. Sooner or later, they'll figure out a way to discern even original from manually spun content, and your clients will either go out of business, or adjust and buy fresh, unique articles.

        As for the duplicate content discussion, I have no idea, I'm not interested and I don't give a freakin' damn about out - I write for real people, real souls, not for some algorithms that crawl my websites.

        To me, this whole Google seems blown out of proportions. But I'm thankful to them - it seems my competitors take SEO very seriously, and that's just great news for me. Amen.
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  • Profile picture of the author owais211
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    "Good" always goes with some cost,buy one for better results.
    Manual as said by writer88 is even better
    Good luck!
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  • I use WordAI a lot, and can recommend it highly. It's not free, but well worth the $50/month price tag. Plus it has an api you can use with other services so the sheer volume of "original" content you can produce pays for itself several times over.

    I don't disagree with Alexa about spun articles not being good for "article marketing". But then again, "article marketing" isn't good for article marketing, so whatevs...Don't get me wrong, articles directories are fine for diversifying a link profile, etc but I could do without just fine.

    I have pumper sites to fill with "unique" content and spun content fills that need. Not to mention spinning things like comments, profiles, etc. WordAI is my fav, because I despise having to do "work" for bulk filler.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by StrawberrryBumblebee View Post

      But then again, "article marketing" isn't good for article marketing, so whatevs...Don't get me wrong, articles directories are fine for diversifying a link profile, etc but I could do without just fine.
      Me too ... I think you may be confusing "article marketing" with "article directory marketing"? Article marketing has almost nothing to do with SEO at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberSEO
    Originally Posted by flovin View Post

    As above.
    WordPress › CyberSyn « WordPress Plugins is a freeware WordPress RSS aggregator with built-in TBS spinner integrated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    "Create Original Content Yourself" is a pretty good software program.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by Joshua Rigley View Post

      "Create Original Content Yourself" is a pretty good software program.
      Not anyone has such a budget. If people want to make private blog networks, not always have people the money to have 10 "good" articles written just to get content on each. Fill each blog with 10 articles, have 20 sites, this is already 200 articles which need to be commissioned. Spinning for many is a compromise to keep costs low but still get "unique" content on the sites. IF done right, if the "spun out" articles are reasonable in number (because they will not yield "infinite" "unique" articles of course), and of course if the articles read well and "flow", like any other article. And this *is* doable.

      Add: And if you have only one or two sites and need content, article spinning should not even come up, of course then what you should do is "Create Original Content Yourself"
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      • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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        Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

        Not anyone has such a budget. If people want to make private blog networks, not always have people the money to have 10 "good" articles written just to get content on each. Fill each blog with 10 articles, have 20 sites, this is already 200 articles which need to be commissioned. Spinning for many is a compromise to keep costs low but still get "unique" content on the sites. IF done right, if the "spun out" articles are reasonable in number (because they will not yield "infinite" "unique" articles of course), and of course if the articles read well and "flow", like any other article. And this *is* doable.

        Add: And if you have only one or two sites and need content, article spinning should not even come up, of course then what you should do is "Create Original Content Yourself"
        For a second I seriously thought I was reading spun content. Believe it or not, George, creating content yourself is completely free.

        Nobody in their right mind would try to manage 20 sites at once, especially if they're just starting out. But if you have one profitable site, you can hire someone to write content for another site. Or you could crowdsource and ask your readers for content. Assuming you actually built a real audience using good content, you'll have more content than you'll know what to do with.

        I don't understand the mentality behind using software spinning. Creating original content isn't that hard. At least, it isn't if you're not lazy. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I cant recommend any spinner software. They all suck, and are laughable. By the time you're finished editing the spun article, you could have written an original 500+word article from scratch... even if you're not a good writer.
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  • Profile picture of the author pingsters
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    Use " The best spinner "

    Thanks
    Faye
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  • Profile picture of the author hbhanot
    Spinrewriter is the best paid one. Don't know any Free which will work now a days.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cassano 10
    you can use
    The Best Spinner Demo
    I think it's the best
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  • Profile picture of the author aj113
    The problem here is that when many people see the word "spinner" they automatically think of auto spinning. While auto-spinning has its uses for some people, any software that can help you to manually re-write an article in a short space of time has got to be a help.

    If you're looking a free spinner, Spinnerchief has a multitude of features that many paid spinners don't have.

    Yes, I do have a vested interest in Spinnerchief before anyone points that out. On this occasion I'm simply answering the OP's question, which is more than most contributers to this thread did.
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  • Profile picture of the author flovin
    Thanks for all the comments
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    • Profile picture of the author astronomynerd
      In my experience, SpinRewriter is the best. You get high readability as well as high uniqueness.
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