What is the best website for ghostwriting?

Taniwha

13 years ago

Why don't get in your own niche and write for yourself?

5 articles for $10? Damn you're selling yourself short.

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4DayWeekend

13 years ago

You can get plenty of writing work right here on the Warrior Forum.

Just post your offer in the Warrior For Hire Section. If you position your offer correctly and have a reasonable portfolio you should be able to get work pretty quickly.

At $2 per 500 word article you'd definitely attract clients if you're decent. After all, that rate is pretty much slavery and everyone wants a bargain!

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

Originally Posted by 4DayWeekend

You can get plenty of writing work right here on the Warrior Forum.

Just post your offer in the Warrior For Hire Section. If you position your offer correctly and have a reasonable portfolio you should be able to get work pretty quickly.

At $2 per 500 word article you'd definitely attract clients if you're decent. After all, that rate is pretty much slavery and everyone wants a bargain!

I'd love to get more than $2 of course, but $2 is more than I have been getting at any of the sites I've tried. The main problem is, however, I do not have a portfolio. I am brand new to this.

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DeborahDera

13 years ago

You need to build yourself a website (free or not) and build a portfolio. Write some unique content and put it up for display. You shouldn't be working for $2/article - EVER.

Originally Posted by nba2kbeast

I'd love to get more than $2 of course, but $2 is more than I have been getting at any of the sites I've tried. The main problem is, however, I do not have a portfolio. I am brand new to this.

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Geri Richmond 13 years ago

Hi,
Why don't you go to Fourerr.com and put in an application to do writing gigs. You get $4 for whatever you do. You could offer a sample of your work, because most people will want to see a sample anyhow. If they like your writing, then you are in! You should post a sample here on the Forum. Can't hurt.

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nba2kbeast 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Taniwha

Why don't get in your own niche and write for yourself?

5 articles for $10? Damn you're selling yourself short.

How do I write for myself? I have tried PPC before and made about 10c per article per month. I'd like to get a bit more than that.
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- Slazengeer 13 years ago
  
  You can sign up on Fiverr, where you will get $4 for each article. There are
  many other websites as well such as oDesk, Elance, Guru, iwriter, etc., but
  the article rates are extremely low. If you are a native English speaker, then
  you can really charge more than just $2 or $4. As for the start, you can work
  on these rates because you need to know how SEO articles & website content
  is being written and published. But at these extremely low rates, you will
  definitely hurt your vocabulary and structure formation. Just my two cents.
  
  As being advised above, sell your services at Warriors for Hire section for better
  opportunities and potential.
  
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laurencewins

13 years ago

The Warriors for Hire section in this forum can help you. Also the popular bidding sites elance and odesk can get you work as well.

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Taniwha

13 years ago

Read all the links in this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774

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LarryC

13 years ago

If you are willing to write 5 articles per day for $10 you should have no trouble at all finding work. You can even make a little more than that on Fiverr, where you would keep $4 for an article. So that would be $20 for 5 articles.

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

I have looked at the Warriors for Hire forum and there seems to be tons of competition between people who already have many clients. I think I would have a lot of trouble getting a job.

Taniwha I looked at that post but I really don't know where to start. This is all brand new to me.

I really need someone to show me the ropes. Someone that has had success writing on a website that is looking for articles. I can spend a lot time researching and writing decent articles, but I'm not sure if they will be up to the standards of some of the other writers on the forum.

I really appreciate all of your responses.

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

I looked into Fiverr recently, but there were many others offering their services that have already mastered SEO .

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writeaway

13 years ago

I am a Fiverr seller so I am a bit biased. Try Fiverr. Your costs are SO LOW, it won't cost you much to run QUALITY TESTS among different providers.

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MissTerraK 13 years ago

Wow!

I am shocked that so many people are recommending she work for so low on the pay scale!

Don't you realize that writers get paid so much more than that? The difference is their target audience.

Looking for work in all of the wrong low balling places sets a precedent for a penny pay scale that is hard to get out of.

Ha! That reminds me of a joke:

Why do some cowboys have crap in their mustaches?

Breaks out singing, "Lookin' for love in all the wrong places."

Anyway, it's the same concept. If you don't want crap for pay, don't look for clients in all the wrong places.

The best website for ghostwriting would be your own.

Terra
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- ContentWritingPhD Banned 13 years ago
  
  If you love writing and you can finish at least 5/500 articles every day, it should be easy to find a job because there are plenty of them out there at $2 per article.
  
  You can start blogging at Blogspot.com or WordPress.com so that your work can be published—any way, this is free. Look for an interesting subject, one that you’re knowledgeable about. When writing blogs, make sure that you post updates regularly. After that you can begin applying for a ghostwriting job and make use of your blogs as your samples because most likely you’ll be asked for samples.
  
  There’s Odesk, Elance, Freelancer, Fiberr and many other sites that you can check out.
  
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Steve Daley 13 years ago

Here's some tough love for ya

You seem a bit timid & lacking confidence....if not negative.

I understand where you're coming from with that given that this is new to you, but it's that approach that will be the thing that prevents you from moving forward & taking action.

You have one thing in your favor right now...you already know what it is you want to do. Most people starting out here don't have any clue, so you are already way ahead of most in that regard.

What you need to do now is just start doing it. Place your ad on the Hire section here as suggested & offer some free articles in exchange for testimonials. You don't have to make those testimonials public. You can just take on board what they say for your own personal benefit & work on the areas where the feedback suggests need improving.

Re your portfolio, maybe take a few days or so, research the hot topics on this forum, & just start writing about them. Post them as a bundle for review in the "looking to hire" section...offer them as freebies to the reviewers & allow them to have PLR ownership to them.

Once you are writing & taking on board feedback, your quality portfolio will build very quickly.

Yes, there are cheap writers here, but there are also writers who charge significantly more than others.

You mentioned that you feel that you are not as good a writer as others. The more you write, the better you will get at it.

You've done the right thing in asking for advice here. Now you just need to gain a little confidence which will only come when you "start doing", & this forum is as good a place to start as any.
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- Doug Wakefield 13 years ago
  
  The best website for ghostwriting is one that demonstrates your ability as a writer. Most of the other content sites pay a pittance, and are not worth your time. The competition from other writers in the lower bracket makes it way too hard to really get moving.
  
  Even if you do gain traction, do you really want to crank out 20... 30... 50 articles a day just to make a living wage?
  
  Here are a few steps to get you started.
  
  Step one - get away from WF. It is the low end market.
  
  Step two - avoid the content mills and bidding sites (for the most part anyways.)
  
  Step three - make a website, add in a few samples and a way to contact you. Ideally set up an email address with the website.
  
  Step four - determine your expertise. Anything you have done can contribute. I don't care if it is a hobby, a job (or industry you have worked in), or any area you have studied (doesn't mean schooling, think self-education.) For example, I have 12 years experience in the asphalt industry. Now, how hard do you think it was to sell my expertise to an asphalt sealing company?
  
  Step 5 - create a list of businesses that fall in those lines. This is just a starting point, you can expand this list later. You are looking for email addresses, or contact forms. You may want to note the phone number too.
  
  Step 6 - start contacting the businesses on your list. You can use email to speed things up. Ideally create a template to work from and modify it for each business. Do this regularly, even once you start getting work. Dan Kennedy, in one of his many books, mentions that he does at least one thing daily to promote himself... even if he is booked well in advance. This helps keep the momentum, and makes it very easy to raise your prices even higher later when you are consistently booked.
  
  Step 7 - price accordingly. Many here seem to think $5-$10 an article is a good rate. It is crap. I have written for these rates and can tell you that it just isn't worth it. It didn't take me very long to learn that. Triple the high end and you have a start.
  
  You can expand this later on to cover other businesses too. You start with what you know in order to get the early success under your belt. You can expand this however you wish, though you may want to consider specializing in the areas you started in to further increase your demand.
  
  If you can write, you don't need to start at the bottom. Even if you do start at the bottom you will learn very quickly that the amount of money you make is proportionate to the amount of marketing you do. I prefer to market where my time is paid appropriately, you should too.
  
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Bellerine

13 years ago

While I agree with Terra for experienced, professional writers, the OP is just getting her feet wet.

You can usually find clients willing to pay you what you're worth. I may be reading this wrong, but I think the OP is trying to increase her worth/establish it, even to herself.

Before grabbing clients, grab wisdom and lessons from seasoned professionals. There are many threads in this forum that suggest a ton of great reads. With said insight fresh in your mind, I'd say go ahead and give Fiverr a try. It's free to sign up and writing yourself a great gig pitch is not a bad way to test your mettle.

Yes, if you are a good writer you will be giving away gold for $4, BUT I have clients today that sought me out from Fiverr gigs who pay quite nicely. Four dollars per 300 words isn't bad lead generation. It's a nice way to get a range of experience too. I don't remember 100 percent but I don't think Fiverr gigs include any privacy clause, enabling you to use them to begin a portfolio as well.

Good luck!

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

Thank you all so much for your responses!! However, I should have given WAY more information at the beginning. Your ideas are excellent, but I am not looking for a full time job. The main point of this is that I am only a Teenager. I will be setting up a job on Fiver, great advice. I would like to set up a website too, but I have no idea how. Any other ideas would be great. Thanks again.

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DTGeorge

13 years ago

Originally Posted by nba2kbeast

Thank you all so much for your responses!! However, I should have given WAY more information at the beginning. Your ideas are excellent, but I am not looking for a full time job. The main point of this is that I am only a Teenager. I will be setting up a job on Fiver, great advice. I would like to set up a website too, but I have no idea how. Any other ideas would be great. Thanks again.

Since you're a teenager looking for quick cash, then I'll spare you the details on how to make REAL money.

Many of the content mills (e.g. Constant Content, Textbroker) will pay between $10-20. If you want to find more about them, simply type "content mill" in google. There are dozens that you can apply for.

If you're applying on bidding sites, (e.g. Freelancer, Odesk or Elance) then you need to set up a GOOD profile. If possible, upload a decent picture, and input copious details. Spend some time crafting a good profile message - I'm sure you can find many online.
After you have set up a GOOD profile, ONLY apply for jobs that pay you decently. You can get more than $2 per article if you look hard enough

When you do find these jobs, ensure that you spend a good amount of time crafting a detailed and grammatically correct application - it shouldn't take more than 15 minutes. Do NOT fire off the same message to 10 people, but ensure that it is tailored specifically for your potential clients request.

If you do get the job, make sure that you give 100%, and turn in a great article, in order for you to get repeat business.

Wash, rinse, and repeat

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

Also, do you know any websites that accept articles on topics I like to write about? I'd rather write for less money about something I enjoy than write for a lot of money. Thanks again.

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run

13 years ago

You'd earn much more than this if you are slaved yourself.

- Learn keyword research (Moderate as it'd take some little time to discovered)
- Learn building your own site (Easy as of many CMS`s out there)
- Learn On-Page SEO (Easy as many references out there)
- Learn Off-Page SEO (Hard as you need to follow those crazy animals updates)
- Learn Traffic Generation Methods beside SEO (Easy as you're landed on here)

Quality Content + Quality Site + Quality SEO Traffic + Quality Non-SEO Traffic = Money

Some ideas to use your skill:
- Guest Posting
- Article Marketing
- Quality Web 2.0 Network

Instead of selling directly with your writing skill, you could sale as a package like:
- [MANUAL] 5 Quality Web 2.0 Creation Service with 3 Unique Contents Each For $50.
- [MANUAL] 3 Quality Article Submission to Top 3 Article Directories For $15

And, there are many things that pop into my mind ......

$10/day is the sort of slavery for your skill though!

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Rose Anderson

13 years ago

Try constant content. They'll let you know quickly whether your writing is up to their standards. You can write about any topic you want. But you then have to hope that someone will buy your article. The last one I posted sold in one week.

Rose

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TimothyTorrents

13 years ago

If you don't have a portfolio consider writing some free articles in exchange for reviews. Once you collect a handful of shining testimonials it won't be difficult for you to secure some additional clients.

I don't recommend charging 2$ for 500 words. At least bump your rates up to 5$ for 500 words for your starting rate. Collect as many testimonials as you can and slowly increase your rates.

I personally think it is best to focus on building your reputation on one website rather than trying to find work on all of them. At least, it is easier for me that way. Keeps things organized. For example, if you want to build up your reputation as a writer on this forum; you will need to post your writing ad in the Warriors for Hire section and collect as many testimonials as possible.

You don't necessarily have to write articles for free to get testimonials, just politely ask clients to leave a testimonial on your thread once you have completed their order. Leave a link to your thread in your signature and do your best to provide helpful responses to the threads on this forum. Eventually you will build a reputation as a respected content provider on the Warrior Forum and it is all downhill from there.

Good luck!

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RoseHunt

Banned 13 years ago

You can check oDesk, elance, freelancers, fiverr, or even the hire forum on this site. Yes 2 dollars per 500 words may seem too little for the other people around here, but there are a lot of writers who charge that!

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MissTerraK 13 years ago

Originally Posted by RoseHunt

Yes 2 dollars per 500 words may seem too little for the other people around here, but there are a lot of writers who charge that!

But that doesn't mean I'm going to or anyone else has to for that matter.

A lot of people do things for a living that I would never consider like shoveling poop for instance.

I've always thought that, Monkey see monkey do can make a fool out of you.

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nba2kbeast

13 years ago

I have just created a Textbroker account and I'm excited by the looks of it. Thank you all so much for your help! I also received an offer from a person on this forum that I have accepted

. This is a great place. I will let you know how everything goes. I'm happy to be here.

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JeniferStarr

13 years ago

I've had some success with Elance. You can also try iwriter which allows you to write short articles when you have a little extra time. I've had the best success from my own blog advertising my services and from referrals.

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Marhelper

13 years ago

The WF is a great place to do it. Once Warriors know you produce quality work and can be trusted, you should do well.

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fpdeziner

13 years ago

Elance and Odest are the top paying sites, they have a strong relation with their members. But you can earn more if you offer your services in the warrior for hire section.

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