Article Spinners? Any Advice?

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I started researching article spinners. Does anyone have any experience using these? I started using The Best Spinner program but was wondering if there was anything else available that isnt as pricey.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marketing Fool
    Back when I used to spin articles I used the best spinner. There may be cheaper ones out there, but I found them to be a pain to use and not as good.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      My experience has been that spinners are a waste of time. I have not seen one that spins so well you can't tell the output from it has been spun.

      To me, all spun articles read in a very unnatural manner and sound nothing like a human would write.

      I know, some will say, "well I only use spun articles to get back links and the English doesn't have to be perfect."

      It may be good enough for those people, but I don't want that garbage associated with linking to my site.

      Of course, your views may be different.

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      • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post


        To me, all spun articles read in a very unnatural manner and sound nothing like a human would write.

        I know, some will say, "well I only use spun articles to get back links and the English doesn't have to be perfect."

        It may be good enough for those people, but I don't want that garbage associated with linking to my site.
        If you buy a hammer at Home Depot and then find yourself unable to build a home (because you never did it before)..would you also go back to Home Depot and complain about how bad the hammer is because you were not able to build a home with it?

        What I am saying, spinner software is a tool. You can make outstanding, readable and "flowing" spins which are not to be distinguished from "normal" articles if you manually spin.

        99% of people do NOT manually spin, they only click "auto spin" as a way to quickly produce a "new" article from an existing one.

        Also, 98% of people who voice their opinion about article spinners are those same people who have no idea about HOW to actually use them *properly*.

        As a side-note, difference between article-spinning software is MINIMAL, because of those reasons:

        A) If someone would use article spinning software only for auto-spinning, ALL (!) article spinning software produces unreadable garbage.

        B) If you manually spin, it doesn't matter what spinner you use since all are basically the same. Differences are only in the UI and less relevant features which are not important for manual spins. That being said, I use TBS because it has shown more stable compared to other spinner software.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

          You can make outstanding, readable and "flowing" spins which are not to be distinguished from "normal" articles if you manually spin.
          You can indeed. But - however well and professionally you spin it - you'll get no benefit from them that you couldn't also get by using syndicated copies of the original without spinning them. (That's the point some people miss. If everyone understood that, the whole subject would more or less disappear in a puff of smoke and cloud of garlic).

          The reason people imagine they're "benefitting by spinning" is simply that they think that if they don't spin it, it will be "duplicate content" and they'll somehow be "penalized" for it. :p

          All you need to do, to educate them, is to refer them to endless Google and other sources which clarify, repeatedly and in various different media, that that isn't the case. Not in the past, not now, and (to judge by what Matt Cutts and other Google staff members have said about their recognition of the need for and value of syndicated content) not in future either. If they're willing to look, that is - some people just want to "be right" about it, and you'll never convince those folk, and there's no point in trying.

          If anyone wants a whole lot more opinions, including some from Google, on this topic, these might also interest them (some are very up-to-date, some are a few years old, but of course the realities of what "duplicate content" is haven't changed!) ...

          The Duplicate Content Penalty Myth

          Most Common SEO Myths

          Destroying The Duplicate Content Penalty Myth

          Duplicate content: Separating the penalty from the filter | Searchlight - CNET News (Google staff perspective)

          Duplicate Content Not An Everyday Problem | WebProNews (Matt Cutts explanation)

          Article Marketing and the Duplicate Content Penalty Myth | Article Marketing Blog

          Help: How to find partners who can syndicate my content from my blog? (Report from Google conference)

          The Greatest Internet Marketing Myths?

          Article Marketers – Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All - Internet Marketing and Publishing Blog

          Oh ... and one more site for the few people who still believe that "syndicated content" is "duplicate content".
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            The best advice I can give you is that the best spinner in existence is your own brain.

            Seriously, how many spinners do you of that can be as creative as you? As witty as you? As clever as you? As funny as you? As intelligent as you?

            I could go on, but I'm sure you're catching on, right?

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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

          99% of people do NOT manually spin, they only click "auto spin" as a way to quickly produce a "new" article from an existing one.
          I agree. At least 99%.

          That's why they got such a bad name and so much dog poo was smeared all over the internet.

          Fair play to the "under 1%" that did it properly though.

          Also, 98% of people who voice their opinion about article spinners are those same people who have no idea about HOW to actually use them *properly*.
          And those selling the software of course George.

          No offence either, I know of people like you that have used them properly for years, it's just so sad you're a hideously massive minority.

          One more point, if 99% were not doing it properly, was that their fault or were inadequate instructions provided by those selling the software?

          Just thinking out loud.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve B
          Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

          Also, 98% of people who voice their opinion about article spinners are those same people who have no idea about HOW to actually use them *properly*.
          George,

          This is me! I'm guilty.

          I don't care to know how to properly spin articles because I am not convinced, as many folks here have said, that doing so has any worth to my business. I don't want or need my articles spun. If that's what you build your business on, fine . . . more power to you.

          I would personally prefer to spend my time on making each article I release something different and unique rather than having multiple versions of the same ideas. And as you have said, the masses misuse article spinning and produce garbage so I choose not to be associated with what the masses are doing in this regard.

          I understand, given your sig file, that you need to promote spinning. No hard feelings at all . . .

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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by retireblogging View Post

    Article Spinners? Any Advice?
    Hi Amy ... yes: keep well away from them.

    Spinning is nonsense.

    The perceived "benefit" of spinning is based only on a fundamental misunderstanding.

    It's a "solution to a problem that doesn't actually exist" - and a solution of benefit only to people selling spinning software and services.

    It's without value, but it can damage your business. It can't help you. Everyone who actually makes a living from article marketing (rather than from supplying spinning software or services) says the same things about spinning. And there are reasons for that.

    The whole thing is based on a fallacy, and a misunderstanding about what "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" mean and signify.

    The value of a backlink doesn't depend on whether the content to which it's attached is "unique" or "previously published": it depends on many other things, but that isn't one of them, and Google says so openly.

    For people open-minded enough to read them, the following six items explain much more, at greater length and in greater detail.
    • this post explains the benefits of spinning
    • the first half (or so) of this thread contains a good discussion of what you can gain from spinning articles
    • the advice on this subject given by so many people throughout most of this thread has been really helpful to many people here
    • on the meaning and significance of "duplicate content", in this context, this little post from expert article marketer Anne Pottinger includes direct quotations from Google's WebMaster Central Blog on the subject (not easy to find a more authoritative source than that!)
    • this little article is also a very useful and accurate explanation of the subject
    • this post, and its links, explain in detail the closely related subject of how article directories really work and why they exist
    There's a further potential problem, too, which arises for anyone intending to use "mass/automated submission" of articles to article directories.

    When used for that purpose, these tools are effective enough to get your site heavily penalized by Google. What they're not effective enough to do is to give you any benefits worth having (and that was the case even before the recent Google updates).

    Take a look in the SEO Forum here. You'll find plenty of threads started off by people whose sites have been heavily penalized, and many of them have been openly told by Google that using automated submission software was the reason.

    Using this stuff this has no real benefits anyway: backlinks from article directories are worthless, for all the reasons explained in this and many other "article marketing" threads: How do Article Directories work? Even for a year or so before all the Panda updates of 2011 devalued article directory backlinks so much, SEO textbook writers were saying that you'd need literally tens of thousands of those "backlinks" to give you same linkjuice as that arising from one good backlink on a quality site specifically relevant to your niche.

    Something to keep well away from!

    These threads might also help anyone imagining that mass article directory submission might be a "good" thing to do:

    A problem with Article Marketing robot
    Content - Instant Article Wizard
    Is anyone still using Article Samurai?
    Sites with spammy backlinks
    Calling out bad tactics
    How to use Magic Submitter to create backlinks to my ecommerce site?
    Is Seo link robot a good software?
    Magic Submitter SENuke still useful?
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  • Profile picture of the author wesawu
    Stay away, far far away!
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  • Profile picture of the author flovin
    Spinners to me are a waste of precious time. The best spinner as mentioned is in your head. Be original.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheGermanGuy
    You can even use translation tools as spinners. Just port a text over from one language to the other or even from one translator to a different. Indeed the output will be a mess but an article spinner is not better. You always must manually edit and proof the text.
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