I need you opinion about creating a product and sell it trought clickbank (I want to be a vendor)

10 years ago

Best place to go is jvnotifypro, like you said, top affiliate go there to find offers. But you better have a KICK A$$ presentation. Has to have good video promotion and affiliate commission. And look amazing, product doesn't have to be so amazing though. If you want the best results. But you should publish it on clickbank and jvzoo to possible attract more affiliates.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Karomaz

I would like to know what do you think about the dating niche (for men)

I think it's very fiercely competitive, and that a significant proportion of the competitors are among the most experienced, most successful and most professional marketers in the industry.

Although that's partly because there's so much money in the niche, and that sounds attractive and interesting when you look at it only superficially, I think this kind of reasoning may well actually conceal most of the realities.

Be aware that the most popular niches, in which the most money is spent by customers, are also the ones in which less experienced, less successful, less professional marketers are most likely to fail, and that there are reasons for that.

The people who aren't as successful as they'd like, in this context, aren't people who "don't take action": they're people who set off in the wrong direction.

It's explained in more detail here: Niche Selection Roadblock

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And here: Guess who is going to have the most profitable business?

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Simon Farmer

10 years ago

Hey Karomaz,

I have five products on ClickBank that have been making me a lot of money for the last three years and the majority or the traffic is from affiliates.

The way I get affiliates is this:

1. Go to ClickBank and write a list of all of the products in your niche with a gravity of 1 or above.

2. Go to Google and enter the first product on your list.

3. In an excel spreadsheet write down all of the websites which are affiliates for the product and their contact details.

4. Do the same thing for all of the products on your list.

5. After you've done this you should have a massive list of all the websites in your niche that are affiliates to the products in your niche. (For the dating niche you should have a list at least 600 sites)

6. Make sure you have a decent affiliate page.

7. Contact the sites and ask them if they would like a free review copy of your product and tell them about your affiliate offer.

8. If you have a decent product you should get yourself some affiliates.

Hope this helps

- Simon

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Jeff Lenney

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Simon Farmer

Hey Karomaz,

I have five products on ClickBank that have been making me a lot of money for the last three years and the majority or the traffic is from affiliates.

The way I get affiliates is this:

1. Go to ClickBank and write a list of all of the products in your niche with a gravity of 1 or above.

2. Go to Google and enter the first product on your list.

3. In an excel spreadsheet write down all of the websites which are affiliates for the product and their contact details.

4. Do the same thing for all of the products on your list.

5. After you've done this you should have a massive list of all the websites in your niche that are affiliates to the products in your niche. (For the dating niche you should have a list at least 600 sites)

6. Make sure you have a decent affiliate page.

7. Contact the sites and ask them if they would like a free review copy of your product and tell them about your affiliate offer.

8. If you have a decent product you should get yourself some affiliates.

Hope this helps

- Simon

This is gold, nicely put!!

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4DayWeekend

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Simon Farmer

Hey Karomaz,

I have five products on ClickBank that have been making me a lot of money for the last three years and the majority or the traffic is from affiliates.

The way I get affiliates is this:

1. Go to ClickBank and write a list of all of the products in your niche with a gravity of 1 or above.

2. Go to Google and enter the first product on your list.

3. In an excel spreadsheet write down all of the websites which are affiliates for the product and their contact details.

4. Do the same thing for all of the products on your list.

5. After you've done this you should have a massive list of all the websites in your niche that are affiliates to the products in your niche. (For the dating niche you should have a list at least 600 sites)

6. Make sure you have a decent affiliate page.

7. Contact the sites and ask them if they would like a free review copy of your product and tell them about your affiliate offer.

8. If you have a decent product you should get yourself some affiliates.

Hope this helps

- Simon

The bad thing about a competitive niche is that there are other vendors trying to grab your sale. The good thing is that there are already affiliates with traffic, subscribers, and everything in place to promote your offer.

The above information is gold. Use that to attract affiliates who already have everything in place.

Top post.

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Julius Minor

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Simon Farmer

Hey Karomaz,

I have five products on ClickBank that have been making me a lot of money for the last three years and the majority or the traffic is from affiliates.

The way I get affiliates is this:

1. Go to ClickBank and write a list of all of the products in your niche with a gravity of 1 or above.

2. Go to Google and enter the first product on your list.

3. In an excel spreadsheet write down all of the websites which are affiliates for the product and their contact details.

4. Do the same thing for all of the products on your list.

5. After you've done this you should have a massive list of all the websites in your niche that are affiliates to the products in your niche. (For the dating niche you should have a list at least 600 sites)

6. Make sure you have a decent affiliate page.

7. Contact the sites and ask them if they would like a free review copy of your product and tell them about your affiliate offer.

8. If you have a decent product you should get yourself some affiliates.

Hope this helps

- Simon

Man!! Don't be giving this stuff away for free!!.. Just joking :rolleyes: Great advice...

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Karomaz

10 years ago

thank you for your sweet comments guys, I really appreaciate your shares

here are some notes for my product:

1) the price is 47$ (what is the best, 47$ or 67$ ?)
2) affiliates comission is 75%
3) I have one upsell for 37$
4) a perfect video sales page
5) an affiliates center which is very rich of promotion tools

is that enough ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Karomaz

1) the price is 47$ (what is the best, 47$ or 67$ ?)

What price is best for your product is something only you can determine, by testing.

There's no such thing as a "best price", in abstract.

Originally Posted by Karomaz

2) affiliates comission is 75%
3) I have one upsell for 37$
4) a perfect video sales page
5) an affiliates center which is very rich of promotion tools

is that enough ?

No (though it all sounds perfectly ok in itself, for affiliates who are willing to send their traffic to video sales pages, anyway). But the main things you need are a high quality product and a sales page which is proven to convert reasonably well-targeted traffic. Without having those, in the long run it doesn't matter whether/how you attract affiliates, because you can't retain them anyway. Sorry if I sound as if I'm stating the obvious and you already knew all this.

Good luck!

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Julius Minor

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

No (though it all sounds perfectly ok in itself, for affiliates who are willing to send their traffic to video sales pages, anyway). But the main things you need are a high quality product and a sales page which is proven to convert reasonably well-targeted traffic. Without having those, in the long run it doesn't matter whether/how you attract affiliates, because you can't retain them anyway. Sorry if I sound as if I'm stating the obvious and you already knew all this.

Good luck!

Alexa you always makes sense...

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thedanbrown

10 years ago

hey Karomaz,

There are different things you need to think about if you want to get a lot of affiliate traffic.

If you go with an initial price of $47 or even $37 (test it) then you should have at least 2 upsells if not 3. Your upsells should be for $97 then upsell 2 $197 upsell 3 $497 or $997

And you say "perfect video sales page"

Well ya, this is one of the hardest parts. Are you planning on learning about writing copy that sells & creating the copy yourself or hiring someone to do it for you?

Something you have to consider.

Those seem to be your 2 biggest hurdles. The third hurdle which I'm assuming you have alreayd started on is about creating a product that actually gets the customer results, solves their problems.

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Karomaz

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Sorry if I sound as if I'm stating the obvious and you already knew all this.

Good luck!

Not at all, I really apreciate your advices, and I write every point in my notpad, so I don't miss any thing

Originally Posted by thedanbrown

hey Karomaz,

If you go with an initial price of $47 or even $37 (test it) then you should have at least 2 upsells if not 3. Your upsells should be for $97 then upsell 2 $197 upsell 3 $497 or $997

And you say "perfect video sales page"

Well ya, this is one of the hardest parts. Are you planning on learning about writing copy that sells & creating the copy yourself or hiring someone to do it for you?

Something you have to consider.

Those seem to be your 2 biggest hurdles. The third hurdle which I'm assuming you have alreayd started on is about creating a product that actually gets the customer results, solves their problems.

Thank a lot bro, but please how can I test my sales pages to know the conversion rate ? should I do it before tha launch or after ? if it's before the launch, how can I test it ?

Please note that I found a copywriter on fiverr who will write me tha video script, and a designer to create the video

About my product, I'm sure that it will satisfy my customers, it's an ebook of 100 pages + audio format for every chapter of the ebook + a workout sheet + more than 20 missions and exercises

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mialove

10 years ago

Please note that I found a copywriter on fiverr who will write me the video script

Daring niche is very competitive, successful marketers paying huge $$ to copywriters.
Some charge for copy way more than 10 000$
I am in a big doubt, that you can find someone on fiverr that may wright you a sells copy that will be in your competition level.

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club20coaching

10 years ago

Being a vendor on clickbank is fun and can be easy money but when it comes to product make sure you are not adding something that has already been done several times. I think it's a good idea as long as you make it new and exciting!!! When is your deadline and are you going to outsource the work or do it yourself? Make sure to take time and do everything with perfection and pay much attention to the look of your website! I think it will be fun and all together a great new addition to ClickBank! Good luck and let us know either way what you end up with.

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mialove

10 years ago

Be aware that the most popular niches, in which the most money is spent by customers, are also the ones in which less experienced, less successful, less professional marketers are most likely to fail, and that there are reasons for that.

Alexa

I think you a right, but it's also depend on the budget.
What i mean is...If less professional marketers will have a money to invest in good sells copy+ testing, i believe they will have a good chance to susses.
In reality, most newbies, don't have big $ to invest, and when there copy don't convert well they give up.

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Karomaz

10 years ago

please not that until now, I invest more than 500$ in IM (clickbank)

I created a free report about how to get traffic from facebook (here is my squeeze page Facebook Traffic), I invested around 40$ in webhosting, around 300$ on advertising (ppc, ppv, and solo ads "safe swaps"), and some bucks for my autoresponder and other stuffs, the first 7 followups emails are just fresh and good content, they trust me, but when I send them some clickbank stuff, they don't buy it !!!

I did not made any sell, ANY SELL since that I started 5 months ago !

And now, I have just another 500$, I would like to invest it in my product launch, and I hop that I will not go to lose my money again

I did not earn any thing from my first experience, but I learned so much thing that will help me in the future of my online busuness

Also I have on other problem, english is not my primary language, so when I will finish my product, I will need some one to re-read it and correct me all kind of mistakes: ponctuation, style,...ect. I found them on fiverr, but I'm afraid that they get my product and resell it, or to use it for a profit goal !

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mialove

10 years ago

Well...
I will be honest with you.

My initial objectif is 1000$ a day

I don't believe it will be possible with that little investment, not even close to this.
I hope to be wrong for you, but i think that in niche with such a huge competition from the "big boys", you must to invest a TON to get going and be successful.
because, even if your product are super unique and interesting, with bad sells copy - good affiliates will not promote you.
You must give them good conversation, and a copy from fiver, just wont give you that.

I feel you pain about English i am in the the same position

I don't even move without outsourcing.

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Karomaz

10 years ago

Originally Posted by mialove

Well...
I will be honest with you.

I don't believe it will be possible with that little investment, not even close to this.
I hope to be wrong for you, but i think that in niche with such a huge competition from the "big boys", you must to invest a TON to get going and be successful.
because, even if your product are super unique and interesting, with bad sells copy - good affiliates will not promote you.
You must give them good conversation, and a copy from fiver, just wont give you that.

I feel you pain about English i am in the the same position

I don't even move without outsourcing.

A friend of me just gaves me a course about copywriting, and how to write vsls scripts and how to setup a good vsl page that converte well

he is a freelancer and he is very talented in copywriting, i started reading this course and really it's amazing

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ragnartm

10 years ago

Do you actually know how to become a Casanova in 7-10 days?

Even if you do, are you confident you could TEACH how to become one?

Have you made money online before? If not don't you think an initial objective of 1000$ a day is a bit of a stretch? I'm all for positivity but you might want to start off with some smaller objectives, and then work towards 1000 a day as a later one.

Bottom line, even if you end up with a great product and a perfect sales page, it doesn't matter unless you can get a few affiliates to start out with, if that is going to be your main source of traffic. So I guess start finding out who the major players in your niche are, and try to reach out to them.

Good luck.

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Karomaz

10 years ago

Originally Posted by ragnartm

Do you actually know how to become a Casanova in 7-10 days?

Even if you do, are you confident you could TEACH how to become one?

Have you made money online before? If not don't you think an initial objective of 1000$ a day is a bit of a stretch? I'm all for positivity but you might want to start off with some smaller objectives, and then work towards 1000 a day as a later one.

Bottom line, even if you end up with a great product and a perfect sales page, it doesn't matter unless you can get a few affiliates to start out with, if that is going to be your main source of traffic. So I guess start finding out who the major players in your niche are, and try to reach out to them.

Good luck.

Hi there,

Yes I'm able to teach it, I already worked as a coach on self confident and self developement and how to seduce women

About my earnings before, I worked as an affiliate for a period of 8 months, and I generate between 20 and 700 bucks a week (the minimum was 20$ and the maximum was 700$)

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Michael Levanduski

10 years ago

There is a lot of good information in this thread that you should use. I just wanted to make one quick point.

You're entering one of the most competitive niches in Internet Marketing.
In this niche you will need to have TOP NOTCH sales tools so affiliates can promote your product.
You've mentioned using Fiverr twice so far. Once as a 'copywriter' (which, if you're paying someone on Fiverr to do it, they are not an actual copywriter) and once to proofread your product.

Your competition is likely spending $2500+ for their copywriting, and at least as much to create their product. On top of that, they are the most experienced people in the industry.

What is it that you believe will set you and your product apart? How will you beat these experienced marketing professionals?

I don't mean to discourage you, but unless you have something powerful that you're not talking about, you're going to end up wasting your money.

I truly wish you the best of luck, and hope you are extremely successful! Just be careful, I hate to see people wasting money on Internet Marketing when they don't have to.

Michael

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Karomaz

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Levanduski

There is a lot of good information in this thread that you should use. I just wanted to make one quick point.

You're entering one of the most competitive niches in Internet Marketing.
In this niche you will need to have TOP NOTCH sales tools so affiliates can promote your product.
You've mentioned using Fiverr twice so far. Once as a 'copywriter' (which, if you're paying someone on Fiverr to do it, they are not an actual copywriter) and once to proofread your product.

Your competition is likely spending $2500+ for their copywriting, and at least as much to create their product. On top of that, they are the most experienced people in the industry.

What is it that you believe will set you and your product apart? How will you beat these experienced marketing professionals?

I don't mean to discourage you, but unless you have something powerful that you're not talking about, you're going to end up wasting your money.

I truly wish you the best of luck, and hope you are extremely successful! Just be careful, I hate to see people wasting money on Internet Marketing when they don't have to.

Michael

Hi there

Thanks for your great comment

About how to bet the competition, and make my product unique, is that I will love my customers more than my product, myproduct is not a simple ebook, but it's a workbook, with daily missions and exercices which it will develop self confident into guys who can not apprach women, I go with them step by step, and at the end of every mission, they will write me in a worksheet a brief description on how they passed it, and they will send it to me, and before letting them moving to the next mission, I need to validate the previouse one, and they must have a "good mark"

I think that bu this method, all my customers will se the results, because I have some experience about psychology, and when my customers follow my missions and exercices, they will see the diffirence in this week, I'm sure from this, all what I need is just they must be honest with me when they will write me the description of the mission, and how they passed it

Also I'm planning to give to my affiliates all the ressources needed to promote my products, I'm also planning to create some mini guides for newbies affiliates, where I share with them some strategies to promote my product (via articles writings/blogs reviews/youtube/facebook & twiteer/emailing and list building), and also I'm giving to supper affiliates their tools (follow up series, solo emails, banners, articles, videos,...ect)

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Enfusia 10 years ago

Ok, let's just say you know this and can teach this, I gotcha, no sweat you're covered there.

But if you think you're going to grab a copywriting book and sit down and bang out a letter that competes with the letters they are paying $10,000 for I'm really sorry to say this but I think you're going to have a really bad time with this.

I'm not being rough just being real. I'm a copywriter, came out of direct mail and product jingles. As such I have over 30 years in writing. I'm only saying this so that you don't burn your $500 for nothing.

Could you pull it off? Yes, sure you could, but Vegas wouldn't take those odds.

The 3 biggest things you will need are 1. A great sales letter. 2. A great QUALITY product. and 3. Affiliates.

The affiliates part is not so bad, it's 1 and 2 that are your bugaboo's.

Measure twice cut once. (I.E. think this through before spending your cash).

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chandan_dutta

10 years ago

To be honest, $500 is really less amount for a product in this niche. It will be better if you save it for sometime and invest when you have more. From Fiverr you can't expect a top-notch sales letter.

Great tips by Simon Farmer and I have seen many product owners doing this.

Anyway, good luck!

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clever7

10 years ago

It’s very hard to recruit affiliates, especially if you have a new product and you are a new vendor.

You should try to sell your ebook the highest price you can because affiliates don't promote cheap products, since they won't make enough money with commissions, but your work must really be good.

You have to promote your affiliate program in many places, and pay for ads.

Everything is very hard, and you probably won't be successful from the beginning, but you will understand what to do in order to be successful in the future.

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Karomaz

10 years ago

ok, can you please tell me how much i will need for a product launch on clickbank ?
and where i must invest it exactly ?? and how much i should invest in any specific task ?

if their is bitween you a succesful product owner, please can you share with me (us) your experience ? how much you invested ? and where did you invested it ?

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