What am I doing wrong?

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So, in the past few weeks, I've started to build up my mailing list by investing money into solo ads. I've spent a little over $100 so far and I have about 280 subscribers on my list right now.

The people who join my list will receive an E-book and afterwards, they will start to receive daily emails promoting ClickBank products. (Internet Marketing/MMO niche)

I know that with email marketing, I won't see immediate but I started this list about a month ago and I've gotten plenty of hops to ClickBank but no sales. Is it because I'm not building a trusting relationship with my subscribers and just promoting products? I know that the emails aren't the problem because they are generating traffic to ClickBank. So, I would like to know what I can do to help improve my chances of at least breaking even with Email Marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author alldomain
    yeah solo ads are not really good for trying to make money. They are more for growing your list. i would try PPC
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  • Profile picture of the author Ripster
    Oh, thanks for the suggestions guys. Do you recommend Google Adwords or Facebook for PPC campaigns promoting ClickBank products?

    I have a $100 Google AdWords voucher I haven't used yet so I'll probably to do some testing by leading them to my squeeze page and redirecting them to the ClickBank offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author AJMontoya
      Originally Posted by Ripster View Post

      Do you recommend Google Adwords or Facebook for PPC campaigns promoting ClickBank products?
      You can build a good list through PPC on Facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffsolochek
      Originally Posted by Ripster View Post

      Oh, thanks for the suggestions guys. Do you recommend Google Adwords or Facebook for PPC campaigns promoting ClickBank products?

      I have a $100 Google AdWords voucher I haven't used yet so I'll probably to do some testing by leading them to my squeeze page and redirecting them to the ClickBank offer.
      Facebook seems to be the best place these days for PPC.another good way and i know a lot of people are using it is to do a video and put it on Youtube. Look at the one's that are getting a lot of hits then try something along those lines.
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  • I think you have two problems. One, your list isn't made up of high quality members who are looking to buy. If they were, the person selling the solo ads wouldn't be selling them.

    Secondly, you are only selling to the list. Provide them with good, free information and then try to sell something you believe in to them.

    Michael
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    • Profile picture of the author Ripster
      Originally Posted by Michael Levanduski View Post

      I think you have two problems. One, your list isn't made up of high quality members who are looking to buy. If they were, the person selling the solo ads wouldn't be selling them.

      Secondly, you are only selling to the list. Provide them with good, free information and then try to sell something you believe in to them.

      Michael
      Yes, thank you for the great suggestion! I think I've learned my lesson that trust is more important than cold selling to my list.
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    • Profile picture of the author rickdangelo
      Originally Posted by Michael Levanduski View Post

      I think you have two problems. One, your list isn't made up of high quality members who are looking to buy. If they were, the person selling the solo ads wouldn't be selling them.

      Secondly, you are only selling to the list. Provide them with good, free information and then try to sell something you believe in to them.

      Michael
      I have to agree with Michael, too. I personally do not do email marketing but as being a subscriber of many marketing lists, the marketers I find most helpful are those who provide invaluable information to recipients. Your "helpful" content can be as simple as "advice" on personal finance. You just have to read up from some personal finance guru and quote them. Don't call it "free advice". For example, you can say it's something you stumbled upon and it's just worth sharing. A lot of subscribers buy on recommendations from people they think positively of.

      Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author TegaD
    Everyone is saying the right thing, i don't think your average run of the mill solo ads will be very succesful. I think you actually have to get higher numbers for your solo ads, or you can buy the more expensive solos that will probably convert better. Its just finding a provider that takes proper care of their list and is not mailing them to death.

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author HD
      Originally Posted by Ripster View Post

      Is it because I'm not building a trusting relationship with my subscribers and just promoting products?
      With all due respect, sounds to me as though you answered your own question.

      I would say 'promote nothing' until you've proven to be the Great guy/gal you are sending tons (okay, maybe not tons) of quality FREE info directly relating to the niche they signed up for in the first place.

      When a pitch of trust is earned, watch sales go through the roof!

      And remember 280 is not a number, rather 280 potential sales if you treat them right!
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  • Profile picture of the author Garymgar
    You only spent $100 to get 280 subscribers.That means your list is not of good quality.May have to up the anny and go for the higher priced providers.
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  • Profile picture of the author John J M
    Trust can be built into selling with email marketing. The focus should always be relationship/trust, but selling can be intertwined. I always think of it like this: Is what I'm including in this email really going to move the action-taker forward.

    Whether it's training or a product/method recommendation that you make money from, you have to really want to help people.

    To me, that's what it's all about.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    It will be dependent on your sales funnel and the person that you are purchasing solo ads from. You will need to constantly tweak and test your sales funnel, offer and squeeze page so that you will get the best conversion. I just feel that your sample size testing is too small and you can further improve it. Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author troysavary
    Maybe you picked poor products to promote. Clickbank is full of stuff ranging from gems to garbage. Finding the right offer to promote is an art in itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Geri Richmond
    Hi,
    You can't send them one email with a free e book and then pound them with affiliate links. You hve to keep giving them value or they will leave. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Rosmer
    I'm going to disagree with most of the comments to date. Sure, trust is great and all that but all the talk of giving away good quality information for free to build a relationship is overrated. The times when trust matter most is when people are skeptical of what they are buying. Often, the best way to make money initially is to sell people something they are buying anyway so the question is just whether they are going to buy it through you or not?

    So first question, are people already looking to buy what you're selling? It's a much more difficult sell otherwise, the business of trying to convince people they need or want what you've got is an expensive game and one I wouldn't recommend without significant lifetime value from the client, in which case every transaction really needs to build that relationship (highly unlikely when you're selling random clickbank products).

    The next question is what advantage do they have of buying it through you? Generally, if you can give someone a better offer on what they are already buying they will buy it through you. On the other hand if your offer is the same as everyone else's then why should they buy through you?

    You build trust by what you offer, what you offer doesn't have to be free, but it has to be great value. Make a point of finding exceptional deals for your list and delivering that incredible value to them. For example, approach people with inexpensive products that they nevertheless sell and are fantastic products. Negotiate with the creators of those products to have them given away for free to your list, giving them a great product for less than it's worth provided it fits the targeting of your list will build credibility and value with that audience. Then negotiate a huge discount for your list, maybe interact with them to determine what they want and negotiate a bulk sale discount. There are a myriad of ways to do it but you bring value to your list by giving them something special, something they didn't have before or couldn't get easily before, this is a huge gap for most people who think they'll jump in and start making money marketing online.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    280 is a pretty small list to see anything substantial. Couple things here though. Yes you will need to build trust. Also clickbank isn't normally known for high conversions of coarse this can vary per product. And using solo ads in order to grow your list, and I may get flamed for this, is mostly good for selling solo ad clicks directly not for marketing affiliate products. Get a list using more targeted tactics and build trust.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Your probably not doing anything wrong. Solo's used to be great now every dog is in on it and most names are just going around in circles.
    I heard of a guy who has a bot and about 10,000 email addresses who would sell solos and the bot would have all the email addresses or what he set up to answer them and optin to them ect.

    In the old days you would see this for a testimonial. I got 48 percent optin and six sales.

    Now you see this I got 48 percent optin and then nothing is mentioned about sales.

    We over saturate everything man. If you can find someone that doesn't sell solos with a good list and spend more money you will get a quality list that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author sherio8
    all kinds of e marketing need more efforts
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Edson
    I'd stop using Clickbank ASAP.. why?

    Most savvy marketers know clickbank allows people to purchase through their own affiliate link. So most experienced marketers will find a clickbank product their interested in(maybe from you?) and then purchase it through their own affiliate link to save money.

    JVZoo and WarriorPlus are 2 good alternatives.
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