Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap?

by VinnyBock 35 replies
It seems affiliate marketing is the money making method most people that are new to the Internet marketing scene instantly rush into, but is it really the best way for people to start?

I think its the "appeal" of affiliate marketing that grabs most people...
  • Most people don't have their own product or service...
  • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
  • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
  • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
That last one is very appealing for some people mainly because making money online is pretty complex, so when a method that's so easy to understand and makes perfect sense comes along, it usually demands attention. Sadly, just understanding the concept and actually making money from it couldn't be more different. Understanding it is EASY - making money with it is NOT.

Now, I'm sure there are some people that rush right in and actually make money as an affiliate right from the start, but the majority of people first getting into it, will fail miserably...

Some will fail because they try to promote to many products at once, some will fail because they don't promote enough products, some will fail because they'll spend all of their time learning new strategies while never applying any of them, and some will fail because they go in believing it will be easy...

So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
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    Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    It seems affiliate marketing is the money making method most people that are new to the Internet marketing scene instantly rush into, but is it really the best way for people to start?

    I think its the "appeal" of affiliate marketing that grabs most people...
    • Most people don't have their own product or service...
    • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
    • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
    • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
    That last one is very appealing for some people mainly because making money online is pretty complex, so when a method that's so easy to understand and makes perfect sense comes along, it usually demands attention. Sadly, just understanding the concept and actually making money from it couldn't be more different. Understanding it is EASY - making money with it is NOT.

    Now, I'm sure there are some people that rush right in and actually make money as an affiliate right from the start, but the majority of people first getting into it, will fail miserably...

    Some will fail because they try to promote to many products at once, some will fail because they don't promote enough products, some will fail because they'll spend all of their time learning new strategies while never applying any of them, and some will fail because they go in believing it will be easy...

    So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

    Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
    Is affiliate marketing the newbie trap? NO, the real trap is the concept of how much work it takes to make money with affiliate marketing. The trap is that newbies think they can write an article and make a couple thousand dollars in a week. I can assure you that affiliate marketing is a great way to make money.
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  • Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp
    This is why most marketers start here.

    Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap
    This is why most fail.

    The concept seems simple, but to be successful as an affiliate is a whole other matter. Just look at all the: "I've tried everything but nothing is working" posts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      It is Somewhat. Its easy and does not require you to think about making a business where you control the product or service. Doesn't have to be a dead end but lots of newbies get stuck right there.
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    It's not a trap. It just takes a lot of work, testing, sleepless nights, and dedication.
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  • Profile picture of the author maidenim
    Yes i think it's the best place to start as a newbie. You don't have to think about product creation, etc.
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    • Originally Posted by maidenim View Post

      Yes i think it's the best place to start as a newbie. You don't have to think about product creation, etc.
      But from there, most newbies are stuck at: "now what"?
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  • Profile picture of the author emelef
    It is a perfect place to start. The problem is people think they have failed when they don't make money in their first week or month. Then jump to the next 'thing' thinking this was a trap. You need to commit, focus and work hard. Nothing is better than starting a business with other people's products, their websites, their training, their systems - and you get paid while you learn the ropes. Then you can add more opportunities to your business as you learn. The online world is a steep learning curve, few people have the patience to learn and grow - they just want money NOW. So they will quit when that doesn't happen. Sad times.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Simpson
    I'd say it's a great way to start. It allows you to focus purely on promoting products rather than having to also worry about creating and supporting your own product. It's still hard work to make any sort of success of though, so perhaps the real trap is that it isn't as easy as it is made out to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author willay
    It definitely is not a trap. It's the greatest thing I have ever seen in my life. Same as with anything in life..99% percent of people fall by the way side and 1% crush it.
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    Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    It seems affiliate marketing is the money making method most people that are new to the Internet marketing scene instantly rush into, but is it really the best way for people to start?

    I think its the "appeal" of affiliate marketing that grabs most people...
    • Most people don't have their own product or service...
    • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
    • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
    • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
    That last one is very appealing for some people mainly because making money online is pretty complex, so when a method that's so easy to understand and makes perfect sense comes along, it usually demands attention. Sadly, just understanding the concept and actually making money from it couldn't be more different. Understanding it is EASY - making money with it is NOT.

    Now, I'm sure there are some people that rush right in and actually make money as an affiliate right from the start, but the majority of people first getting into it, will fail miserably...

    Some will fail because they try to promote to many products at once, some will fail because they don't promote enough products, some will fail because they'll spend all of their time learning new strategies while never applying any of them, and some will fail because they go in believing it will be easy...

    So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

    Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
    I know of several big name marketers who are making most of their money from being an affiliate. If you have no product and no web site then affiliate marketing is the way to go. If you want to know who some of the big name affiliates are let me know and I'll send you their info.
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    • Profile picture of the author VinnyBock
      I think some of you guys are missing the point...

      Obviously affiliate marketing in general is not a trap. There's plenty of people living in 9000 square foot homes on a hill because of it. But the question is, is it a trap for newbies....

      & I think it is a NEWBIE trap, and here's why....
      Because the concept of it is easy, it leads people to believe the process is easy. Because people believe the process is easy that puts them in the wrong state of mind right from the get go, and as we all know to well, state of mind is critical to your being successful especially early on in the going.

      Affiliate marketing in my opinion is the #1 reason for new IM'ers contracting the deadly new shiny object syndrome. I know it was for me. I found out the hard way affiliate marketing wasn't easy and I spent the next 6 months of my life trying to find a system that made it easy and that lead to info overload which is one giant trap.

      Info overload keeps us trapped in a viscous cycle of always learning and never earning, and in that light, affiliate marketing is a newbie trap...

      There is no right or wrong answer to the question, "is affiliate marketing a newbie trap"?

      For me the answer is yes..
      I started this thread just to see how many of you guys/gals agreed or disagreed and I'm starting to realize most disagree...
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      • Profile picture of the author ViViD
        Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

        I think some of you guys are missing the point...

        Obviously affiliate marketing in general is not a trap. There's plenty of people living in 9000 square foot homes on a hill because of it. But the question is, is it a trap for newbies....

        & I think it is a NEWBIE trap, and here's why....
        Because the concept of it is easy, it leads people to believe the process is easy. Because people believe the process is easy that puts them in the wrong state of mind right from the get go, and as we all know to well, state of mind is critical to your being successful especially early on in the going.

        Affiliate marketing in my opinion is the #1 reason for new IM'ers contracting the deadly new shiny object syndrome. I know it was for me. I found out the hard way affiliate marketing wasn't easy and I spent the next 6 months of my life trying to find a system that made it easy and that lead to info overload which is one giant trap.

        Info overload keeps us trapped in a viscous cycle of always learning and never earning, and in that light, affiliate marketing is a newbie trap...

        There is no right or wrong answer to the question, "is affiliate marketing a newbie trap"?

        For me the answer is yes..
        I started this thread just to see how many of you guys/gals agreed or disagreed and I'm starting to realize most disagree...
        The real trap is in being too scared to fail. When you take action and fail enough times you start understanding on your own how things work and then you don't rely on everyone else telling you how to do things.

        To get started you need some direction, but once you get that base of information its time to leave the nest and start testing your wings. If you never test those wings then you stay forever trapped in the nest.

        Some Newbies eventually become Pros. That is the difference between a newbie that takes action and a newbie that does nothing and stays a newbie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Horacioplus
    Affiliate marketing is the easiest way to make money online. Promoting other peoples products and building a list of potential customers.

    People fail because they dont have idea how to promote a product or service. They fallow the society, they read or buy an ebook from the warrior forum. and they start doing what they learned from that ebook.
    But he didnt know that they were many doing the same thing.

    An example! I was getting 10 sales a week from facebook using a free method. I made a video to teach them what i was doing. The funny thing was that i wrote message and many of them were using the message on the same place. I was like what heck, i gave them the idea but they dont use their brain to make work.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Personally I think if you have the right mentoring and you know how to sell products as an affiliate and build your list it's not a newbie trap by any means. There are many people who only market other peoples products and they're traffic ninjas... that's the thing... if you're a newbie and don't know the fundamentals of internet marketing like traffic generation to squeeze page, lead magnet bribe, build your list, build relationship with that list, run affiliate campaigns, rinse and repeat... well ya it's a newbie trap because you don't understand how to run the different components to a successful affiliate business.

    With that said, I think affiliate marketing is THE easiest way for anyone to get startted because like you said you don't need to take all the time to create and optimize your own marketing funnel of products, you can leverage other peoples work with affiliate marketing with relatively little start up costs (autoresponder, squeeze page, hosting, domain). Or you can even use free websites to send traffic then you don't even need hosting and domain you can just use YouTube vids or ezine articles to generate traffic. Actually no thats wrong you will still need it because you have to host your squeeze page somewhere... so ya autoresponder, squeeze page, domain, hosting... but on top of that you have to understand the components to running a successful affiliate business which takes work although most would lead you to believe otherwise.
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  • Profile picture of the author feelthetraffic
    I have to agree, many products mislead. Dont get me wrong once you get some sites ranking and a good list going it turns easy. But starting out takes some work.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    I agree with you, Vinny. It's become a newbie trap. The whole 'make money online' by showing other people how to make money online can easily become a downward spiral.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Hale
    Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    It seems affiliate marketing is the money making method most people that are new to the Internet marketing scene instantly rush into, but is it really the best way for people to start?

    I think its the "appeal" of affiliate marketing that grabs most people...
    • Most people don't have their own product or service...
    • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
    • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
    • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
    That last one is very appealing for some people mainly because making money online is pretty complex, so when a method that's so easy to understand and makes perfect sense comes along, it usually demands attention. Sadly, just understanding the concept and actually making money from it couldn't be more different. Understanding it is EASY - making money with it is NOT.

    Now, I'm sure there are some people that rush right in and actually make money as an affiliate right from the start, but the majority of people first getting into it, will fail miserably...

    Some will fail because they try to promote to many products at once, some will fail because they don't promote enough products, some will fail because they'll spend all of their time learning new strategies while never applying any of them, and some will fail because they go in believing it will be easy...

    So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

    Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
    The problem with affiliate marketing and newbies is the Internet is flooded with ebooks and programs that promise big money with affiliate marketing and little effort. You see titles such as 'Automated', 'Easy', 'No Experience' which is a trap in of itself.

    I think someone new to IM can make some money with affiliate marketing but it's nothing to rely on and you need to learn from a reputable source not some self claimed guru who has the next best system for $9.95
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    No it great way to start making money online
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  • Profile picture of the author Teddy T
    In short, delete the idea that affiliate marketing is the fast and easy way to earning big money. It actually takes a lot of time and effort to get it going.

    It works though if you get it right and it can bank you some serious money. Not a one two weeks thing though if you're new.

    Just my two cents worth
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroaffiliate
    It's not a newbie trap. Affiliate Marketing requires time and effort, it is one of the best way to earn money.
    If you learn from the right person, do the right things; you definitely get the right result.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with the business model. It totally depends on that person's mindset when he is starting the business. If he is expecting it to be very easy and earning money without much work, then I think he will feel very disappointed. There is no secret to it as it all boils down to focusing on one system and just taking massive Right action.
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    Don't blame affiliate marketing. It is just a concept or form of marketing. If you really have to, blame the people who use it as a trap.

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    most people who buy products serial buyers; they have bought a couple of products before.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Levine
    Good question Vinny.

    Any business can seem like a trap if you're not successful. And it can seem awesome when things are going well. It seems like there are plenty of people here who think affiliate marketing is not a trap. That's a good sign.
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  • Profile picture of the author IzzuDino
    Well Vinny, I don't think affiliate marketing is a trap at all. Like you said:

    Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    • Most people don't have their own product or service...
    • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
    • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
    • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
    It is therefore, in my opinion, one of the easiest methods for a newbie who is just starting his online foray to start making money.

    The REAL problem occurs when they are fed with the idea that affiliate marketing requires no work or minimal work. Which is a false idea as Internet marketing requires work, like it or not...
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    VinnyBock, if affiliate marketing is a newbie trap, then all business is a newbie trap. How can it be a newbie trap when there are so many people who started in affiliate marketing as newbies and are now earning a decent living?

    You've got to start some where and starting as a non affiliate could be an even bigger trap, IMHO
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Mak
    online business sound easy, but it actually take a lot of work.

    I have been doing offline retail business and also online business, the only advantage of online business is it can be leverage and it have a better chance to expend, other than this you have to work hard just like on offline business.
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    Irrespective of what a newbie starts with, if they are not willing to LEARN, LEARN and then LEARN some more, their chances of success are limited. And after all the learning comes the actual implementation, with some more learning every single day...in one word, HARD WORK...ok that's two words :-) but you get the idea
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  • Profile picture of the author garyt
    I think what Vinny is saying is that newbies think affiliate marketing is easy so they got sucked in an "easy" mindset and then when they found out that it is not easy, they give up. So it is newbie trap.

    But it is a fact that affiliate marketing is easy, at least easier than creating your own business. But to each his own.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

      So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

      Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
      And the answer is...

      Yes.

      :p

      Seriously, though, I don't think the idea of affiliate marketing, which is just commission sales at its root, is the problem or the trap.

      The trap is all the marketers sucking in clueless newbies, who are still in the "don't know what you don't know" stage, all promising easy money with little or no time, investment or commitment. Want success? All you need is a credit card.

      I'm not knocking people who are offering legitimate courses in affiliate marketing, showing the business with warts and all. If that's you, and you think I am slamming you, check the way you offer your courses.

      Heck, run down the sigs in this thread and count how many promise various income levels with little effort or time.

      For most newbies, the obstacle is learning how to sell, even if it's just a click to a sales page. Learning to do it with someone else's product is a good way to get started. You can follow a well-worn path. Just watch out for the "easy money with no effort" quicksand...
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      • Profile picture of the author Julie10
        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        And the answer is...

        Yes.

        :p

        Seriously, though, I don't think the idea of affiliate marketing, which is just commission sales at its root, is the problem or the trap.

        The trap is all the marketers sucking in clueless newbies, who are still in the "don't know what you don't know" stage, all promising easy money with little or no time, investment or commitment. Want success? All you need is a credit card.

        I'm not knocking people who are offering legitimate courses in affiliate marketing, showing the business with warts and all. If that's you, and you think I am slamming you, check the way you offer your courses.

        Heck, run down the sigs in this thread and count how many promise various income levels with little effort or time.

        For most newbies, the obstacle is learning how to sell, even if it's just a click to a sales page. Learning to do it with someone else's product is a good way to get started. You can follow a well-worn path. Just watch out for the "easy money with no effort" quicksand...
        Totally agree John. It's the pretty picture of "type here, click send, and make a gazillion dollars in the next 24 hrs" type stuff that really provides no direction on how to set up a long term business....the "why you do this or that..." Most newbies are desperate, and will buy into that stuff becasue of where their mindset it at that time...searching for that easy button....
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          Affiliate marketing has some advantages besides the disadvantage of the low pay outs.

          - Able to promote any product you like
          - Able to scale up with no limitations

          Well that should be enough benefits right?
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          Originally Posted by Julie10 View Post

          Totally agree John. It's the pretty picture of "type here, click send, and make a gazillion dollars in the next 24 hrs" type stuff that really provides no direction on how to set up a long term business....the "why you do this or that..." Most newbies are desperate, and will buy into that stuff becasue of where their mindset it at that time...searching for that easy button....
          When I wrote my email marketing book, I made a special point of omitting a lot of paint-by-numbers instructions and swipe files. I knew that if I did so, many people would blindly follow the steps, copying the swipes without understanding why they were using them. When that failed, they'd blame me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Praize1
    Originally Posted by VinnyBock View Post

    It seems affiliate marketing is the money making method most people that are new to the Internet marketing scene instantly rush into, but is it really the best way for people to start?

    I think its the "appeal" of affiliate marketing that grabs most people...
    • Most people don't have their own product or service...
    • Most people don't want to deal with storing/shipping...
    • Most people would rather not take on customer service responsibilities...
    • The concept of being an affiliate is so easy to grasp...
    That last one is very appealing for some people mainly because making money online is pretty complex, so when a method that's so easy to understand and makes perfect sense comes along, it usually demands attention. Sadly, just understanding the concept and actually making money from it couldn't be more different. Understanding it is EASY - making money with it is NOT.

    Now, I'm sure there are some people that rush right in and actually make money as an affiliate right from the start, but the majority of people first getting into it, will fail miserably...

    Some will fail because they try to promote to many products at once, some will fail because they don't promote enough products, some will fail because they'll spend all of their time learning new strategies while never applying any of them, and some will fail because they go in believing it will be easy...

    So with all of that said, with all of the ways people can potentially fail, the question is...

    Is affiliate marketing a newbie trap, or is it the most logical place to start an IM career?.. :confused:
    It's not a 'newbie' trap.it is actually the best way to start an online career.When you get started,you first have to build a reputation.No one is going to whip out his credit card and give to an unknown fella who started yesterday.what you do in affiliate marketing is simply leverage the work and the experience of another person to build your own brand.
    That said,as time goes on,everyone can then go on to create their own product and have others leverage on their experience too (which will in turn make them more money )

    Just sayin'
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    • Profile picture of the author kayebee
      I don't think it's a newbie trap either. I think it takes time to make money with affiliate marketing. There's a lot of work. It may be easy to get started but you don't see immediate riches and that's probably what turns newcomers off, when the money doesn't roll in after the first day or week. If you start a website now and build it every day, a year from now, you could be making a lot of money. I definitely think it's worth a shot if you going in thinking long term.
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