How long does it take to build a list

by szaby
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Hello,

How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
Thank you

PS:And how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?
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  • Profile picture of the author Horacioplus
    Having a big list to make money is just a myth.
    Few months ago i purchased many programs but i didn't make any money. Most of those IM gurus will teach you the same thing. But most of them are selling Make money curses. But never sold anything else.
    Last month i made almost $3000 and this month hopefully i make more this month, Now i have a list but i dont send them annoying emails every 48 hrs saying buy my stuff. After 5 months i havent send any email selling something.
    In my opinion is better to use those guys with big lists.
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    • Profile picture of the author szaby
      Originally Posted by Horacioplus View Post

      Having a big list to make money is just a myth.
      Few months ago i purchased many programs but i didn't make any money. Most of those IM gurus will teach you the same thing. But most of them are selling Make money curses. But never sold anything else.
      Last month i made almost $3000 and this month hopefully i make more this month, Now i have a list but i dont send them annoying emails every 48 hrs saying buy my stuff. After 5 months i havent send any email selling something.
      In my opinion is better to use those guys with big lists.
      How did you make youre 3000 if not with a list?If you can tell me
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    • Profile picture of the author frannyb
      Originally Posted by Horacioplus View Post

      Having a big list to make money is just a myth.
      Few months ago i purchased many programs but i didn't make any money. Most of those IM gurus will teach you the same thing. But most of them are selling Make money curses. But never sold anything else.
      Last month i made almost $3000 and this month hopefully i make more this month, Now i have a list but i dont send them annoying emails every 48 hrs saying buy my stuff. After 5 months i havent send any email selling something.
      In my opinion is better to use those guys with big lists.
      So what do you do to make the $3000?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Hale
      Originally Posted by Horacioplus View Post

      Having a big list to make money is just a myth.
      Few months ago i purchased many programs but i didn't make any money. Most of those IM gurus will teach you the same thing. But most of them are selling Make money curses. But never sold anything else.
      Last month i made almost $3000 and this month hopefully i make more this month, Now i have a list but i dont send them annoying emails every 48 hrs saying buy my stuff. After 5 months i havent send any email selling something.
      In my opinion is better to use those guys with big lists.
      Most of those programs are Internet versions of that Don LaPre guy and his 'tiny classified ad" program that hit in the late 90's where he had a system for people to make millions for just $29.95.

      Really though, if you had a system that made you millions, would you really want to share it for $1000 yet $29.95.
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    • Profile picture of the author bluewaveseo
      Originally Posted by Horacioplus View Post

      Having a big list to make money is just a myth.
      Few months ago i purchased many programs but i didn't make any money. Most of those IM gurus will teach you the same thing. But most of them are selling Make money curses. But never sold anything else.
      Last month i made almost $3000 and this month hopefully i make more this month, Now i have a list but i dont send them annoying emails every 48 hrs saying buy my stuff. After 5 months i havent send any email selling something.
      In my opinion is better to use those guys with big lists.
      I agree with, "do not send your list an email every 48 hours". today alone
      I unsubscribed from three people because it just got to be too much. be professional and give value.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Hale
        Originally Posted by bluewaveseo View Post

        I agree with, "do not send your list an email every 48 hours". today alone
        I unsubscribed from three people because it just got to be too much. be professional and give value.
        Same here. I bought a couple things through JvZoo and I have gotten hammered with offers from just one team of sellers. Seems like one purchase for $7 got me on three different lists for them.

        Anoy-ying...
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  • Szaby,

    These are very subjective questions and are dependent on a lot of variables. For example how much time are you going to spend every day working on this? What kind of leads are you generating? What are you selling? How much does it cost?

    In general, people’s success is directly proportional to how much time they put into something as well as the quality of their work. I don’t think anyone can place a specific time frame on this for you. It could be a couple weeks and you could work at it for months with no income.

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  • Profile picture of the author szaby
    How did you make youre 3000 ? If you can tell me
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  • Profile picture of the author willay
    Hey,

    It depends how big of a list you want to build and the quality of subscribers you want. There is no set time to build a list it depends how hard you work and what you do in your business. That being said..you could put up a squeeze page and make a facebook ad today and depending how much money you have to spend you could be getting hundreds of subscribers a day starting tomorrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author dunc
    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    Hello,

    How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
    Thank you

    PS:And how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?
    Hello szaby,

    I agree with thecontentauthority on this one. He hits the nail on the head.

    My advice,

    I have heard of Chris Farrell. He is a good all around guy and provides good value to his subscribers.

    Making a list has many different learning curves associated with it. When you first start out it can seem pretty daunting. I suggest that you learn how to make a squeeze page, learn copywriting and how to send effective emails.

    It is true that "the money is in the list". It comes down to you having traffic on tap for whatever offer you decide to send them. Especially your own products later down the road.

    A rule of thumb for me is for a "freebie seeker" the income ratio is around $1 per subscriber per month. So saying that you can have a list of about 2000-3000 before you start making that.

    With a list of buyers. The ratio is around $2-3 dollars per month.

    Just take time to learn, but don't forget the most important part about making it... and that is TAKING ACTION!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    A list of 1,000 targeted people should make you a couple hundred at the very least if you know how to structure your emails. How long it takes depends on your traffic generation techniques. If you're new to list building it will probably take a couple months.
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  • Profile picture of the author HansM
    What are you going to do with the list szaby? What are you going to promote or sell? To whom? A list is only a tool. Just like a hammer: You'll still need a plan or design, possibly a screw driver might be a better tool than a hammer...
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    How long to build a list: Forever .. because list building never ends!

    How many emails to make XXX... Imposable to tell because it depends on the offer and the quality of your emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author Meharis
    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    Hello,

    How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
    Thank you

    PS:And how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?

    Including what TheContentAuthority mention, I would like to include:

    The most important skill you need to be an efficient & profitable
    List Builder is, Persistence and Testing.


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  • Profile picture of the author prem khaira
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    Originally Posted by szaby View Post


    How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
    He doesn't have time to personally answer i think and/or your question, there's no actually answer to it. You just take action, and you'll find out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    How long does it take to build a list
    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?
    They really are two unanswerable questions.

    You can build lists quickly or slowly (I tend to prefer slowly, because quality and responsiveness are way more important than subscriber-numbers, and high quality tends to take longer). You can start to build a list within about half an hour of your first PPC ad, for example, if you know what you're doing. And the more you can invest in scaling that up, the more quickly you can build a list. (That's not what I do myself, at all, but some people do ... which is among the reasons your question's unanswerable). You can get one article syndicated once to a popular magazine or even a newspaper and have 10,000 targeted visitors to your landing-page over the space of a few days, without spending anything at all, but most people don't, and wouldn't, and many don't have the required skills and experience to do that, which is also among the reasons your question's unanswerable. Do you see what I mean? It depends on your skills.

    Your second question is arguably partly answerable, but very subjectively, in the sense that different people can each tell you how many subscribers they had before earning $2,000 - $3,000 in a month, but even that isn't going to mean anything or help you much, without knowing what their skills were at the time, is it? Partly because the people who give you that information will be a small, self-selected group anyway, and most of the people who never managed to earn their first $2,000 aren't even here to answer your question anyway, and you have no way of knowing how many of them there were/are.

    Here you go: I'm a small, self-selected group of one person, and in round numbers, I earned almost nothing at all for 4 months, and then in my 5th month I "suddenly" earned about $3,000, and I think I had about 1,000-1,200 subscribers in one niche and about 300-400 in another, at that point. (Did it really help you?).

    Well done for being interested in list-building - it speaks highly of your prospects. Here are 5 posts/threads which may help/interest you, on this subject ...

    What are the essential things to know about list building?
    Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages
    Website or squeeze page
    Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?
    Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts
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  • Profile picture of the author Diesell
    You can build an emaillist very fast with for example safe-swaps.com, you can buy and sell solo mailings. So you can make it as fast as you want, they say you get $1 for each person on your list. So a list with 3000 people means $3000 a month...

    Hope that helps
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Diesell View Post

      they say you get $1 for each person on your list. So a list with 3000 people means $3000 a month...
      They say it, yes - but it's nonsense. It's a total fiction right out of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing. There are endless conversations about it throughout the forum. Some people earn far less than that. Some earn considerably more. There isn't a way of working out an average. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author Indecision
      Originally Posted by Diesell View Post

      You can build an emaillist very fast with for example safe-swaps.com, you can buy and sell solo mailings. So you can make it as fast as you want, they say you get $1 for each person on your list. So a list with 3000 people means $3000 a month...

      Hope that helps
      not sure what safe-swaps is but it sounds like a great way to upset people with unwanted emails
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      • Profile picture of the author chocobo244
        Originally Posted by Indecision View Post

        not sure what safe-swaps is but it sounds like a great way to upset people with unwanted emails
        Safe swap is a place for people to buy and sell solo ads, its place to check rating of genuine suppliers based on feedback
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    It depends on how hard you work. you get out what you put in.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    Well you could of got a couple on that list by the time you wrote that post.
    The rest of your post can not be answered except in theoretical terms.

    Unless you clone my list my income is not going to be the same as yours.

    If you build your list with solo ads you might see a couple hundred bucks of thousands of emails.

    Build your list off buyers your list will be worth more, the higher the priced item the more value for the list at first.

    Build your list with freeby seekers your list won't be valued at much at all, although I still do freebys just saying a list of buyers is more powerful is all.

    By the way. In the olden days I could count on 1.00 up a email. If you get that now you will be rocking. I could average my sales and gross to the number of emails I sent out in a year and it would be totally different for next year. Don't figure any price on each email, just work the list like they are your customers and your giving 110 percent customer service.

    A list is actually easy to build, it's what you do with the list that makes the difference in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Hale
    Before you think about making a list and how big it must be in relation to sales, you might want to decide what you are planning on selling.

    You won't sell dog food to cat owners.
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  • Profile picture of the author Teddy T
    Well your goal here should be to build a BUYERS' list. A list of 5000 repeated buyers will easily knock out a 100,000 unresponsive list anytime.

    How long is it going to take?

    It depends on your traffic generation methods. If you do it by providing a freebie on your squeeze page and using free traffic it'll probably take months. That's not to mention that you will inevitably attract a good number of 'freebie seekers.'

    Paid traffic works as well, and it's much faster, but as the name says - It's paid, so be prepared to do extensively learning on the subject and suffer potential losses.

    You might wanna try working with the more established IMers to see if you can leverage on their reputation. This will earn you more credibility and thus speed things up alot.

    You might even be able to cut down extensively on 'freebie seekers.'

    Just my two cents worth here
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonBennet
    There are many factors that you will have to look into. It will have to do with the quality of the traffic and the conversion of your landing page. I feel most of the people already have more then enough knowledge on traffic generation and the main problem is that they are not focusing one ONE traffic method at a time.
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  • Profile picture of the author steve875
    The time all depends on how many visitors to your site, your conversion rate, how many visitors sign up, gives your their email address.

    To make $2,000 a month depends on how much you make per sale, times your conversion rate. Say you make $30 per sale, and your conversion rate is 1%, and you have 1,000 people on your email list, that's $300. So just adjust the numbers to reach you goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    It takes time because you don't build a list of hungry buyers within a few days. It also depends on your traffic level and conversion rate. I think its possible but you would need to provide them good information as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author DraculaIM
    I have heard its about $1 per email address per month.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by DraculaIM View Post

      I have heard its about $1 per email address per month.
      There just isn't a way to stop people from believing this nonsensical fiction. You believe it because you've seen so many other people saying it here, and in similar places; and because you and many others repeat it like this other people will also, in turn, gradually come to believe it. That's exactly how the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing gets its all-pervasive delusions perpetuated and propagated.

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  • Profile picture of the author jeffsolochek
    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    Hello,

    How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
    Thank you

    PS:And how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?
    Yeah you can make money without a lit but eventually you will want a good quality list. A good list of paying subscribers and not only freebie seekers. Some of my mentors have great list's. You start with a product and do some Facebook advertising as well as Adwords and so on but keep the details of every paying customer so that one day you have a list of people who will buy regularily from you. It's going to take time for a good quality list. Probably looking at a year or more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
    I guess I really don't have to say much... Some good information on this thread.. If you want a big list then buy a bunch of solo ads.. If you want a "buyers" list then create a good product.. "straight to the point"
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  • Profile picture of the author tanyaa
    The post is good enough to inspire but earning on internet is not so easy.Many ways of earning according to the willingness.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julius Minor
      Originally Posted by tanyaa View Post

      The post is good enough to inspire but earning on internet is not so easy.Many ways of earning according to the willingness.
      Making money on the internet is easy if you have capital to invest, outsource and test and tweak.. If you don't have money.. "YouTube" and "Social media" are a lot quicker than SEO...
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    @szaby - That all depends if you are time rich and cash poor or cash rich and time poor. Building a list is generally a lot faster when you can pay your way in. Otherwise you will have to grind it out and/or be creative.
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  • Profile picture of the author betterwtveter
    Making a big list should not be your target. Your target must be to have a list authentic subscribers. Go slow with the flow.
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    Slow and steady wins it every time
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  • Profile picture of the author ivan24chameleon
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    Big list is not the guarantee... relationship with the list is. My follow ups are not longer than 3 months and I send them everyday (I send good content with links to make their job easier) and every week 3, 4 times a link with an offer, every 10 mails different offer and different content regarding that offer.
    After 3 months I usually shoot them broadcast, because if he didn't buy in 3 months, usually is searching for free things to learn...
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  • Profile picture of the author klbunnell
    I have built lists on non IM and IM niches. If you have some funds to purchase solo ads on buyer's lists the conversion on these is good and usually buyers on a list do equal approximately $1 per month per subscriber. Freebie seekers added to your list are much less.

    Buyer list clicks cost somewhere between 25 and 45 cents per click. So not cheap, but definitely more valuable over the long term.

    I have used safe-swaps.com to very effectively build a list. All buyers, sellers and "swapers" are rated with reputation scores. It does cost a monthly fee to be part of the community, but I have found the value returned worth the investment.

    If you are interested in more specific info let me know and I could create a video that makes some of this more comprehensible.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
    Originally Posted by szaby View Post

    Hello,

    How long does it take to build a list and make youre first dollars on the internet?I`m thinking about joining Chriss Farrell program but he dosen`t answer this very important question i think.
    Thank you

    PS:And how big of a list do you need to make arrount 2000-3000 dollars a month?

    Depends on alot of factors that you put in:
    -time invested
    -money invested
    -traffic source

    if you have money to invest and build your list using solo ads etc you could build a list of 500 in one day but now that list may not be a very good quality list because they maybe just freebie seekers so to make 2000-3000 dollars if we go by the analogy that each member is worth $1 then you would need 2000-3000 people on your list to make $2000-$3000 but even this is an estimate because a list could be very unengaging depends on how you train then to click on your links and check your offers. So many factors to consider.
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Grace
    How fast depends on how much you want to spend on advertising plus if you have good conversion on your offer.

    I don't know if anyone has mentioned this... Do you know the lifetime value of your customer? That will tell you how much you can spend on customer acquisition and still be profitable.

    And as many mentioned, the way you treat your list is way more important than the size.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    The rate of list building all depends on the method you use and
    the exposure you get. If you have a great product and JV
    with a lot of people with huge lists then your list could be
    build in a day. You could also pay for LEADS who may
    choose to optin to your list.

    Most times when a marketer gives an average for money
    made from the list, it's practically the same as open rates
    and click thru rates. These are all averages and there are
    "good averages" you should aim for but no two lists would
    be the same.

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  • Profile picture of the author John_3771
    Lots of questions that are almost impossible to answer definitively...

    I do know that everyday that you haven't started building your e-mail list is another day wasted. Most people who want to start to build a mailing list put it off for so long and waste so much time thinking about it and it is just wasted time. Start building the list and answer all your own questions for yourself because you're the only one that can truly answer these questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    No matter how long the race you gotta maintain pace.



    Building a list is an ongoing effort.

    I've been list building for years, and it's something that I'm currently working on.

    Keeping grinding with your list.

    It never ends.

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  • Profile picture of the author Geri Richmond
    Hi,
    You don't need a big list. You need people that trust you and believe you when you say something important. Building a list takes time. The first and foremost thing to do is forum marketing. Don't miss a day. Go to other forums, as well. You need to spend about an hour a day in the forums or more if you can spare the time.
    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author yestyle
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    At least from 1 to 2 months to build a list. If you have got a decent website then it's not problem and you can build list immediately.
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