how much education do you have

by IMDESTROYER Banned
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im asking this question because i know that allot of the times people don't naturally have the success driven mentality, get information overload easily because they don't have the professionalist mentality needed to quickly understand methods of wealth. I have met several people who have never heard about internet marketing but are pro sales men and alike and they read one book on it and a month later they literally start generating 2K consistently. Its a trip.


I on the other hand have found that education (as i know you have as well) is very valuable to the success in anything. It basically gives you the mind set without having to do anything. So i ask how educated are you in the topics you pursue.

Do you just read on book and implement and stick with that or do you study hardcore implement and continue to study as you implement. I ave allot of books on marketing, web development, media, advertising, project planning, advertising psychology etccc under my belt.

However one thing i have found to be an issue is that any idea i have is scaled so largely, it can be difficult to develop something mall and then progressively enhance it (at least without first pre-defining its scale)



One thing i have always found very amusing is that my spelling and sentence structure sucks. I dont study grammer but i study how to make allot of money. It just makes me laugh when i think about it. I cant even do simple math but i can do money, economics, capitalism and market trading.
#education
  • Profile picture of the author Naeema Anum
    For me education is really very valuable.

    But too much education can paralyze us.

    There are endless valuable educational materials out there. :confused:

    And too much excuse for postponing the implementing part.
    Every bit of our education is worth it, only if we implement it by taking action. There are limits what we can do, that is why we should combine outsourcing and implementing of works to get most out of it.
    Except of education there is also idea, smartness, strength, confidence and will power needed.
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  • It's a balancing act between learning and acting. As far as formal education goes, I have an associates degree in business management as well as several technical certifications.

    As far as IM goes, I consider spending time here on WF and other sites to be an informal education (as well as a teaching opportunity).

    I make most of my online money through writing, which I have never studied. I (apparently) have a natural knack for writing content that sounds great. My grammar, however, isn't always perfect, which is why I'm trying to improve in that area. It is still better than most people, especially those from foreign countries (no offense).

    Interesting topic though. Thanks for posting.

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    Well, it's a long story, but I'll try to keep it short.
    2 years Nursery School
    1 year Kindergarten
    8 years Elementary School
    4 years High School
    4 year University degree
    followed by .................................................. .

    ...More than 40 years in the school of hard knock as a business owner.

    Guess what? I learned much more during those 40 years than all the years of school, but.........

    The high school and the college years gave me the learning skills, and study skills to continue learning for the next 40 plus years.

    When I finished college, pocket calculators had not been invented, nor had home video, CDs, DVDs, cell phones, smart phones, computers, software, the Internet, digital photography, digital anything, hard drives, floppy drives, flash memory, boom boxes, WiFi, Blu-ray, this list can go on for many pages.

    We never stop getting an education.

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by IMDESTROYER View Post

    i ask how educated are you in the topics you pursue.
    I'm probably significantly undereducated, for internet marketing and especially for its technical aspects, compared with many people here than whom I'm actually far more successful. But I don't think that matters at all: I'm highly educated in the formal, academic sense, and that's helped me enormously and is far more important, in my opinion.

    My opinion on this subject is always in a very small minority in the Warrior Forum, where the small, self-selected group who discuss "education" inevitably includes a preponderance of people who take an entirely different view of "formal, academic education" from mine; they typically think of higher education broadly in terms of its income potential, whereas I think of it in terms of developing the judgement, learning-skills and analytical skills necessary to apply to new and different and unrelated situations. For "running a business", those are invaluable.

    I think it's very easy to underestimate the extent to which education (of various kinds) is beneficial to "being a successful internet marketer". I also think, overall, that in spite of the undeniable reality that some entirely uneducated people have become very successful through internet marketing, one typically hears far more about the rare exceptions than about the norms: everyone's quick to tell you that Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg aren't college graduates, but they're often a little less enthusiastic about hearing that they both had impeccable academic credentials and no trouble getting into Harvard in the first place.

    The Myth of the Successful College Dropout: Why It Could Make Millions of Young Americans Poorer - Robert J. Zimmer - The Atlantic
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    • Profile picture of the author TheEye
      I have knowledge of a lot of things.

      Very few of those I have put in the time to become skilled in.

      On even less occasions have I created systems from these skills to enable me to get work completed.

      Education is a vague word.

      To some it means having knowledge, for others it means having knowledge and having developed the skills to use that knowledge.

      What is really needed is the ability to use these to build systems that will get work done.

      A formal education teaches you how to gain knowledge and skills in a structured way.

      Not all successful people have a formal qualification but most successful people have a structured way of learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author Friedmett
    Education is key but with it comes new things to do and that is to learn and apply it.

    When it come to buiding a business online it is a never ending education as there are always things that you need to handle along the daily duties.

    Where am I in the process? Where I am. Constantly getting new education and experience. Like today learned how to stop a page on my blog from spam.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I'm a lifelong student.



    I've been to several Universities, am a current graduate student, and will probably still be in school even after acquiring my master in science.

    As far as self education, it's also something I'm addicted to.

    I'm basically a book nerd who loves to hoard as much information as possible.

    If only I took more action on the information I've obtained.

    (That's the hidden secret of success).

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  • Profile picture of the author joyfulwraps
    I agree that education is valuable and as business owners we should strive to constantly improve our business skills by attending webinars, attending classes or by studying with a mentor. Like the OP stated we are not always good at everything where some are not good at grammar they may excel at marketing products and services. This is where outsourcing is invaluable to those of us who want to succeed even when we have shortcomings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Beatty
    I spent 5 years in uni and graduated with a BA. I try to take a class or two every year just to broaden my horizons...For instance, I just finished up a language class through the community college. There's just so many things to learn!
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  • Profile picture of the author DeanJames
    School was never really a fountain of knowledge for me - although I got qualifications in every subject, went on to do A levels and became a programmer (was more interested in trading stocks at the time though). Everything I have learned in this life has been from observing others, reading books, listening to audios and my own trial and error. That's MY education. Is it important? Hell yes!
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  • Profile picture of the author wesawu
    "Education" is a very subjective term and has very different meanings for different people. Personally, I can tell you that I have a degree in Physics and my heroes in life are Albert Einstein, Margaret Thatcher and Mahatma Gandhi. I can also tell you that most of what I have learned in life has been outside of the classroom. It is my belief that college education teaches a person how to think logically but the real life "education" teaches a person to survive, have compassion for others and make a difference in this crazy world. In short I believe that "adversity" is the best education and worth more than any college degree. The more adverse your situation, the better the "education". Obviously, you have to learn from your adversity and not think of yourself as a victim. I am not blowing hot air but rather speaking from personal experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author hustlinsmoke
    I have close to 400 college credit hours. I have over well I don't know due to my nursing license but tons of ceu's.

    I did this because I want to learn all I can about certain things. yes a college degree is valuable, its something you can be proud of and alot of companies will hire you with it and could care less if its in dog poop or Science as long as you have it. It shows you can start something and finish it.

    Now for the rest of what I have to say.

    Screw the degree, Screw the credits, they mean nothing without the mentality to start something and finish it. Information overload has nothing to do with having or not having a piece of paper. I have information overload daily. Its about wanting something, figuring out how to get it and following through to the end to do it.

    If I have to have my car fixed and I have a mechanic who is a shade tree mechanic for 30 years and a degreed Mechanic for one year. Who will I take my car to? Its not going to the degreed Mechanic I promise you that.
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  • Profile picture of the author zahanega
    Currently a college student. Textbook education is great, but you really don't learn until you try it out for yourself
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  • Profile picture of the author dnovacek
    I'm a big believer and advocate for education of all types. I wouldn't trade my college degree or all time I've spent since then reading books, taking courses, and hanging out in educational places like the Warrior Forum.

    That being said, at a certain point you have to take some of the things you've learned and actually figure out how to apply them.

    Inevitably, I then have to figure out where I went wrong, where I went right, and how to modify my systems to get better at IM.

    As many of those before me have said - you need to be a life-long learner. BUT, you also need to drop a book eventually and put something you've learned into practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    I have an information technology background. But suffer from schizophrenia which made it hard to work around people (which is why i quit). I started my own online business to make money from home, to lower the pain the schizo caused me, and to afford medication. Now i'm good... i take my Zyprexa every night religiously.

    But none of my IT background prepared me for internet marketing. Two totally different beasts. I had to learn IM the hard way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      I have an information technology background. But suffer from schizophrenia which made it hard to work around people (which is why i quit). I started my own online business to make money from home, to lower the pain the schizo caused me, and to afford medication. Now i'm good... i take my Zyprexa every night religiously.

      But none of my IT background prepared me for internet marketing. Two totally different beasts. I had to learn IM the hard way.

      I am so impressed with your honesty.

      Schizophrenia is a terrible illness that is often kept hidden away. You are an inspiration to many who may be struggling with this illness.
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  • Profile picture of the author darshana84
    I have completed a degree in IT but that's not matters in this cruel world and you can learn anything on the Internet nowadays.
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  • Profile picture of the author curationsoft
    In internet marketing, degree of education doesn't really matter to be success in this career, as long as you have the experience and skills as well as passion on what you are doing everything will fall the way it should be.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jen Eick
    I have a Masters degree in a more traditional profession. I think it's been helpful. The degree is somewhat related, as it's taught me "people-skills". Now (in my IM life, at least) I just use them online more than in person.

    I also consider myself a "life-long student" since I made the commitment in my offline profession to be one. IM is no exception. Had it not been for learning the "work ethic" to study, study, study in school, I'm not certain I'd be so goal-driven and focused about succeeding in IM now. In other words -- success in school has left me determined to be successful in other areas of life, as well. In fact, I could probably graph a positive correlation between the two...but, I'd rather get back to work on my IM biz
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