Double Opt In Is Dead!!

DOUBLE OPTIN IS DEAD!

INTERNET MARKETING IS DEAD!

THE KING IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE KING!

Sorry but the thread title is just one of those that drives me nuts.

The content however, pretty cool test there.

The number of subscribers is going to win out over the $ per sub, if the numbers are high enough. However I think the question would be longer term - keep running the test for a while and see how unsubs effect that (and don't add anyone to either list for the duration of the test).

Also track spam complaints LOL

Have you ever heard of this being an issue?

The reality is there's just no advantage to using double optin anymore. Even if someone were to accuse you of spam you should still have the record of them joining your list along with their IP address so you wouldn't get in trouble for anything. You can't help it if some idiot fills in your form with someone else's email address. It happens.

I don't agree with that at all.

When a person comes to your optin form and goes to enter their email address, how are they ever going to know whether you are using single optin or double optin for that form? The answer is they will not know.

So each and every person is going to enter the EXACT same email address into that form whether you are using single optin or double optin. So you are getting the EXACT same email addresses no matter which method you use. The only difference is you will be able to contact a lot more of those email addresses if you are using single optin since they don't need to jump through hoops to be on your list.

Single optin is better.

All it depend on source of lists, you get the list from or other PPV, you'd better use double opt in, cause many people use them just for fun and use fake addy.

Very interesting test, and I look forward to seeing more results/analysis.

What is more interesting, perhaps - and should be of great interest to all those people who so regularly bemoan the fact that they've 'tried everything' and still can't make a single cent online - is the relative ease with which John was able to generate an income.

Many of us here are making great online incomes and do so by focusing on simple processes that are proven to work. Not by over-complicating, second-guessing, self-doubting and butterfly-thinking.

As I see it, John's process can be boiled down to this:

1. Sign up for multiple relevant affiliate programs.
2. Write a series of content-filled emails, some of which include the affiliate links
3. Sign up for an autoresponder service and load it with the email sequence
4. Set up a squeeze page (probably preceded by buying in, or creating a subscriber reward product to maximize conversions)
5. Buy solo ad clicks (or drive traffic some other way) to the squeeze page

The autoresponder does the rest.

Now, if you are not yet making money (having 'tried everything') don't question or over-analyse. Just follow each of those five simple steps. By the time you've paid for the solo ads, the autoresponder and maybe the subscriber bribe product you should still see a reasonable ROI - from John's figures it looks as if he's enjoying about 5:1 but your results may vary.

Of course, when you start your writing may not be brilliant and your emails may not be as effective as John's. So change them and repeat the process until your results are satisfactory.

After that, all you need to do is keep repeating step #5.

What you will prove to yourself is that Internet marketing isn't complicated - it is more like a jigsaw puzzle in that to succeed you need to get all the pieces together in the right order.

You really didn't go there did you. I'm dreaming right and haven't woke up yet.

I wanna unsubscribe to 99% of the lists I'm on. I unsubscribe to a few a day. I get so many crap emails that look like this:

Headline: You gotta see this!

Message: Look at this!

(Link)

So stupid. My junk email address is the worst.

I have had a terrible time getting people to confirm in Aweber, so I'm mostly using 1shoppingcart with single optins.

At least that way I know people get the emails, including access to teleseminars, and products...

Exacty, for me single optin makes more sense then double optin.

Any CPA advertiser who requires a DOI list deserves to get no traffic. I wouldn't worry about this at all, I have never come across it and I do lots of CPA.

No.

He made $182 more using single opt-in instead of double opt-in, even tough the average per subscriber was lower, but he had more subscribers.

$793 (single opt-in campaign) - $612 (double opt-in campaign) = $181.

But yes, the post was a bit confusing.