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What I'm About To Do Is So 2007!

by KenJ
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I have a book written and ready to go. My 3 proof readers are almost finished.

It is not in the money making niche or internet marketing.

It is one of those classic small Clickbank niches where product owners set up their product and affiliates sell it for them. These products tick over with low gravity (2 - 20) but keep on selling like clockwork.
Now I have done this before with a good degree of success. But that was way back in 2007!

I am considering ignoring the Kindle publishing route and just going for a Clickbank and Createspace print sales model. There are two specific reasons for this.
1. This new book of mine has many colour graphics and photos that look great on the screen and in full colour print. Black and white does not do them justice.
2. I can charge more for it on Clickbank and Createspace. (You can't go above $9.99 on Kindle without the royalties reducing to 35%)
Would you do the same?

KenJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by KenJ View Post

    These products tick over with low gravity (2 - 20) but keep on selling like clockwork.
    I'll find it. (In a while: I don't look at anything brand new ). I scour the Marketplace for these low-gravity, hidden gems (I've been spending about 25 minutes per day, doing this, for nearly 5 years now, though more recently I've semi-automated it via one of my VA's). I've read some of your fiction and don't doubt that you'll also write a fine ClickBank product.

    What so "2007" about it, though? These low-key products in minor niches can sell by the thousand in 2013.

    Originally Posted by KenJ View Post

    I am considering ignoring the Kindle publishing route and just going for a Clickbank and Createspace print sales model.
    ClickBank and CreateSpace? :confused:

    Please excuse my mentioning that very few serious, pro-affiliates (of the type who typically find and promote these low-gravity, hidden gems) will be willing to promote at ClickBank a product that also has another sales page elsewhere (under the same name, anyway). This gives affiliates a problem, Ken ...

    Re-Name my Clickbank Product & Sell in Other Marketplace?
    Can this be a leak for a ClickBank product?
    Clickbank plus my own shopping cart?
    Re-Name my Clickbank Product & Sell in Other Marketplace?
    question about selling a product on clickbank
    Where To List My Product

    Originally Posted by KenJ View Post

    Would you do the same?
    I would perhaps put it on ClickBank if wanting affiliates, and use CreateSpace if not ... but probably not both.

    PS - Ah, I think I understand. "2007" because of CreateSpace and not Kindle? I got it eventually. I'm just slow, today ...
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    • Profile picture of the author KenJ
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      PS - Ah, I think I understand. "2007" because of CreateSpace and [I

      not[/I] Kindle? I got it eventually. I'm just slow, today ...
      You got it. Kindle is very trendy at the moment but I know it is not right for this book.

      Thanks for your ideas on affiliates not liking the book sold elsewhere. Thinking about that.:rolleyes:

      I will tell you when I release it.

      Thanks for your kind comment about my fiction.

      Wish I could do multiple quotes

      KenJ
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    Originally Posted by KenJ View Post

    I have a book written and ready to go. My 3 proof readers are almost finished.

    It is not in the money making niche or internet marketing.

    It is one of those classic small Clickbank niches where product owners set up their product and affiliates sell it for them. These products tick over with low gravity (2 - 20) but keep on selling like clockwork.
    Now I have done this before with a good degree of success. But that was way back in 2007!

    I am considering ignoring the Kindle publishing route and just going for a Clickbank and Createspace print sales model. There are two specific reasons for this.
    1. This new book of mine has many colour graphics and photos that look great on the screen and in full colour print. Black and white does not do them justice.
    2. I can charge more for it on Clickbank and Createspace. (You can't go above $9.99 on Kindle without the royalties reducing to 35%)
    Would you do the same?

    KenJ
    I get the preference for color, but it doesn't make sense to me to ignore the largest audience of readers in the world. You'll sell more through Kindle than Clickbank, which will make up for a reduced royalty. Have you considered maybe putting QR codes on the pages of the book in Kindle format, so readers could scan the code and view that page's graphics somewhere on the web? A simple "Scan here to see this image in full color" would be all you need to say.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenJ
    I have found the huge Kindle audience to be very price sensitive. Try selling anything above $4.99. For self publishers 'Der rigueur' price points are $0.99, $2.99 and £4.99.
    I have found sales much harder to come by on Kindle than on Createspace and Clickbank.

    I like the QR Code idea, but then wouldn't it be better if the reader was in colour on a single device?

    KenJ
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    If color is a sticking point, of course it will be better - but if the images have to be black & white in Kindle format then that QR code could bridge the gap.

    I'm not saying abandon Clickbank, definitely still do that, just figure out a way to also include Kindle. Amazon can link your paperback and Kindle versions, so you would still only be advertising one product. Clickbank is a very specific audience, Amazon is everyone - Kindle owners prefer ebooks over paperbacks, so by having a paperback on Amazon but NOT a Kindle format will limit your sales.
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    LOL so 2007 - but still works great to this day!

    Simply throwing a CB product doesn't mean it will sell or that you will get affiliates. If you have not launched yet, I would try and set up a Pre-Launch and start gathering affiliates that way when you do launch you are ready to go as long as they market your product.

    Only relying on affiliates to make your sales can be a disaster, I would advise at least getting some sales by your own efforts.

    Just my 2 cents
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      With Kindle - why not break it into chapters and sell each at a lower price point? Or do a volume 1 and volume 2?
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by ronrule View Post

        I get the preference for color, but it doesn't make sense to me to ignore the largest audience of readers in the world. You'll sell more through Kindle than Clickbank, which will make up for a reduced royalty. Have you considered maybe putting QR codes on the pages of the book in Kindle format, so readers could scan the code and view that page's graphics somewhere on the web? A simple "Scan here to see this image in full color" would be all you need to say.
        Ron, you seem to be assuming that not only is everyone reading Kindle books on "smart" devices with color graphics, but that everyone knows what a "QR code" does and what to do with it.

        I'm sorry, but I just don't see people with standard Kindle readers whipping out their smartphones to scan QR codes to look at pictures that should be in the book to start with.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronrule
    That's not what I am saying at all...

    I am saying you can include the pictures in the book as expected, but add a QR code which they could scan to see a larger (and color) version of the image. This way those using a color device will have a color image already, and those using a black & white device have the option of scanning the QR to see the color image. If they are a Kindle user and don't know what a QR code is, they are in the minority.

    It just doesn't make a lot of sense to ignore the largest book-buying audience in favor of Clickbank when you can do both.
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