by Alast
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Hi guys!

Over the last week, I have been working with oDesk, and have made over $150 just writing for quite a few hours, and have decided that I want to find a new way to make some money, preferably without doing jobs for others'. I'm not going to complain about the money, it's $150 I wouldn't have AND I acquired it in my first week of signing up. Do you think it's possible for me to make a website, maybe write 1-2 articles a day, and profit from it? I'm not talking about $1-2 a day of profit, I'd like at least $20/day for my hard work put into both creating and managing the website. Of course, I wouldn't make this my career, just a constant income for a bit of side cash. I do have an interest in web developing, but after looking through the oDesk and how cheap they pay, I don't know how a web developing business/website would last. I guess you could say I'm quite confuzed as to what direction I need to work towards, but running some sort of online business would be my ideal job.

I'm from Australia, if that helps.
  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    Your attention span is a problem. You've only been doing the Odesk thing for a week and ready to jump to the next thing.

    This business requires laser focus in order to truly be successful whether it's creating a successful blog or learning and doing web design.

    You can make $20/daily but if I were you I would continue working with Odesk if you need money because it might take you awhile before you generate a consistent income daily through blogging.

    Hey man good luck and don't take my first sentence the wrong way, I just want you to succeed if you truly want it as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alast
      Originally Posted by Gengis View Post

      Your attention span is a problem. You've only been doing the Odesk thing for a week and ready to jump to the next thing.

      This business requires laser focus in order to truly be successful whether it's creating a successful blog or learning and doing web design.

      You can make $20/daily but if I were you I would continue working with Odesk if you need money because it might take you awhile before you generate a consistent income daily through blogging.

      Hey man good luck and don't take my first sentence the wrong way, I just want you to succeed if you truly want it as well.
      Oh, it's not an attention span issue, it's just the fact I don't really get a thrill out of writing for others, it's inconsistent, and I'm working below what I think I'm worth. I generally have quite a long attention span, and I do plan to continue working with oDesk until I establish my own online business.

      Thanks for the advice though! :]
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      • Profile picture of the author Fredbou
        Originally Posted by Alast View Post

        and I'm working below what I think I'm worth. :]
        We all do that! we are selling our time = our life. My life is worth a trillion dollars an hour, at least. Well, it is to me. To others, my life is worth zilch. so a happy medium needs to be found.

        Don't be greedy in the process.

        PS, I'm from Australia, too. We are not special!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gengis
    Hey bud I just realized I left something out I wanted to type and thought of it but forgot to write it lol..

    I meant to write "Continue working on Odesk while at the same time building up the blog to get it to the level you want".

    You can do both it's not difficult at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alast
    I might do that, I just need to know what to write about.
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    • Profile picture of the author Gengis
      Originally Posted by Alast View Post

      I might do that, I just need to know what to write about.
      Write about something you are passionate about and there is a niche in that area as well, that way you won't want to give up on it or get bored.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alast
    You could say I'm passionate about money, but it's ironic to write about money... to make money. I'm not advanced enough to write about web developing, and I'm not sure what else.. Have any suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Alast View Post

    Do you think it's possible for me to make a website, maybe write 1-2 articles a day, and profit from it?
    No.

    Neither making websites nor writing articles is in itself an income-producing activity.

    But it's probably possible for you to set up and develop and maintain a business which is an income-producing activity (or even an earning-a-living activity) which involves both setting up a website and writing articles, even though the setting up of a website and the writing of articles are not in themselves the income producers. It's how I make a living, myself.

    But be clear that the website and the article-writing aren't the income producers.

    Websites don't produce income without traffic.

    Articles don't produce traffic just by sitting on your own site: they need to be published in front of the already-targeted traffic you want to attract to your site.

    I'm just clarifying this for you, because so many people seem to imagine that becoming an affiliate marketer, and putting up a website and posting their content on their own site is somehow, magically, going to produce real traffic and income, and of course it isn't at all. The only traffic it's ever going to produce is a bit of search engine traffic, eventually, and that's pretty useless traffic anyway.

    This is how I make a living, if it helps you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774

    Originally Posted by Alast View Post

    I'm from Australia, if that helps.
    I see that it means your weather's probably much nicer than mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alast
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      No.

      Neither making websites nor writing articles is in itself an income-producing activity.

      But it's probably possible for you to set up and develop and maintain a business which is an income-producing activity (or even an earning-a-living activity) which involves both setting up a website and writing articles, even though the setting up of a website and the writing of articles are not in themselves the income producers. It's how I make a living, myself.

      But be clear that the website and the article-writing aren't the income producers.

      Websites don't produce income without traffic.

      Articles don't produce traffic just by sitting on your own site: they need to be published in front of the already-targeted traffic you want to attract to your site.

      I'm just clarifying this for you, because so many people seem to imagine that becoming an affiliate marketer, and putting up a website and posting their content on their own site is somehow, magically, going to produce real traffic and income, and of course it isn't at all. The only traffic it's ever going to produce is a bit of search engine traffic, eventually, and that's pretty useless traffic anyway.

      This is how I make a living, if it helps you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774



      I see that it means your weather's probably much nicer than mine.
      Thanks! I'll give the way you make a living a read when I have some time.

      As for the weather, it was absolutely miserable today. That being said, the weekend is looking nice, at 24 degrees Celsius!
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    • Profile picture of the author Gengis
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      This is how I make a living, if it helps you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5721774


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      I'm checking this out as well
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by Alast View Post

    Hi guys!

    Over the last week, I have been working with oDesk, and have made over $150 just writing for quite a few hours, and have decided that I want to find a new way to make some money, preferably without doing jobs for others'. I'm not going to complain about the money, it's $150 I wouldn't have AND I acquired it in my first week of signing up. Do you think it's possible for me to make a website, maybe write 1-2 articles a day, and profit from it? I'm not talking about $1-2 a day of profit, I'd like at least $20/day for my hard work put into both creating and managing the website. Of course, I wouldn't make this my career, just a constant income for a bit of side cash. I do have an interest in web developing, but after looking through the oDesk and how cheap they pay, I don't know how a web developing business/website would last. I guess you could say I'm quite confuzed as to what direction I need to work towards, but running some sort of online business would be my ideal job.

    I'm from Australia, if that helps.
    Congrats on your success, so far. There are a number of ways to generate residual income like blogging or having your own PLR store. With that said, generating residual income takes longer than being a service provider like you have been doing.

    If I were you, I would continue working with oDesk and start something that generates passive income in order to build a second income stream. Once you get that going, you might decide to stop being a service provider. Making real money on the internet takes time. It doesn't happen overnight.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author Fazal Mayar
    Keep Odesking but try to build a site with your portfolio so you charge more $ in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author palmtrees
    I know this isn't exactly what you wanted but if you want to get paid better for writing articles you should check out constant-content.com. Odesk (and most other places) is pretty much a race to the bottom in terms of rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    $150 your first week sounds great. It took me awhile to make my first $100 online. Like most everyone said I recommend you continue with oDesk and also start your own blog. Educate yourself on the topic of blogging and look at some successful blogs and begin taking steps towards getting your blog setup.

    Just going through the process of creating your own blog and writing content will help you develop skills necessary to be successful online and since you're making money on oDesk you can invest that money into getting some traffic to your blog once you have it setup.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Crim
    Originally Posted by Alast View Post

    Hi guys!

    Over the last week, I have been working with oDesk, and have made over $150 just writing for quite a few hours, and have decided that I want to find a new way to make some money, preferably without doing jobs for others'. I'm not going to complain about the money, it's $150 I wouldn't have AND I acquired it in my first week of signing up. Do you think it's possible for me to make a website, maybe write 1-2 articles a day, and profit from it? I'm not talking about $1-2 a day of profit, I'd like at least $20/day for my hard work put into both creating and managing the website. Of course, I wouldn't make this my career, just a constant income for a bit of side cash. I do have an interest in web developing, but after looking through the oDesk and how cheap they pay, I don't know how a web developing business/website would last. I guess you could say I'm quite confuzed as to what direction I need to work towards, but running some sort of online business would be my ideal job.

    I'm from Australia, if that helps.

    Most definitely you can achieve far more than that by writing your own content. Primarily you are going to be focusing on two areas. General search engine and click through content and high end people will pay through the nose to get a hold of content.

    The general content is high quality content written for the purpose to get peoples attention and to tell a story. Do NOT write for search engines write for real human beings but make it topical and pertinent.

    The high end quality content will be in the form of reports, audio and maybe video if you want to talking about whatever it is. Usually this is a product of some sort. Ebook, reports.. etc... on whatever niche you have researched.

    Basically take yourself on as your own client and do for yourself what others have paid you to do but do it better and higher quality. Not same thing, I am not saying take your clients content they paid you to write and rework it. I am saying starting from scratch in some totally unrelated area do the same procedures they paid you to go through but come up with something else entirely. Understand?

    You should be able to do one complete site a week, with content and product.

    Build each site up with content spaced over time and income around the $100 a week range before starting the next one. Rinse repeat 5 to 10 times and spend your time managing and marketing them. Easy 2 to 5 thousand a month in a few months if you really focus and work it. Depends on how much time you have of course the more the better and quicker the results. If you only have 2 hours a day I don't see 5k a month in 2 months but 20 or more a week, sure.

    If in 3 months you are still working 20 hours a week on your sites and not making any money than you are doing it wrong. Shouldn't need to spend that much time at all once things get going. I am only saying that as a jump starting into it if you currently don't work and have the daily free time to spend building something up from nothing.

    Reminds me of someone I worked with a few years ago that started off about the same, made $150 his first couple days then went on to make over 200K his first year. It is just momentum and keeping with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mohsinmallik
    You have a good start at oDesk and already earned $150 within one week. Do not let this momentum go for something else. You may never know oDesk is the ultimate money maker for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    I strongly disbelieve you can make the kind of success you attained on Odesk in one week on your site without it taking weeks or months.

    Apparently you don't have any experience in marketing otherwise you won't be asking all these questions.

    I suggest you focus on Odesk and gather more funds for investment, test, trials and if possible hire a mentor and see how things turn out yourself.

    Blogging with one or two content can't get you $20 a day and maybe even $2, that isn't enough.

    You need to figure out how to drive targeted traffic to your site and also on a daily basis too.

    Note, one of the best decision you can take is to have a 100% business of your own. Looking outside Odesk is a welcome idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnmags
    If you don't know where to go, then keep on working for Odesk and learn the best practices of the project providers. By combining their best practices, you can then create your own money-making business.
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