Should It be Allowed?...

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I have seen other Forums that allow banners on the sig space.

Do you think this should be allowed? Now that images are allowed?

It will surely get more Click Throughs.

Interested in your opinions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    No I don't think it should be allowed. But what I think doesn't matter.

    Ask Allen.
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    • Profile picture of the author mattpaul
      No banners we can direct to our websites anyway via links and to prove a point
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.
        I think Admin made it clear above that this isn't one of the reasons the polls are available.
        Might be wise to get a clue from that.

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        • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          I think Admin made it clear above that this isn't one of the reasons the polls are available.
          Might be wise to get a clue from that.

          kay
          I can't seem to find the post you are referring to.

          What I did find is that he strongly disagrees with the topic, as does all the posters - those for the topic don't seem to feel strongly enough to post. If we aren't allowed to discuss, suggest, poll anything regarding the forum that would be in the rules.

          A poll is just that; a poll, not a demand, not even a suggestion.

          BTW this forum is a democracy or rather a democratic monarchy since we as members moderate the forum but the king makes the laws.

          Jens
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            Maybe I misinterpreted Allen's comment but when I saw "this is a poll that should never have been posted" my interpretation was "this isn't a good use of the poll function".

            This is the quote I was actually responding to

            the poll system is there for many purposes including seeing the popular votes on forum improvements.
            My thinking was that it's wise to pay attention when admin doesn't like this type of "poll"; it's wise to read and heed rather than argue. I don't think of the WF as a democracy - but as a great gathering place for marketers to learn and share information. Allen's been great about responding to suggestions and asking members' opinions but maybe a poll is not the best way to suggest.

            But, then, I could be totally wrong, too.

            kay (I miss the smilies!)
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            • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

              kay (I miss the smilies!)
              Just activate the WYSIWYG function in your profile under Edit Options and you can smile to your heart's content See.

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            • Profile picture of the author Lance K
              Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


              kay (I miss the smilies!)
              Hey, Kay.

              Go into your UserCP and click "edit options" under the "settings & options" tab in the UserCP left hand menu. Then scroll to the bottom of that page to Miscellaneous Options. There's a drop down box that will let you choose to have a full WYSIWYG editor. Then you can format your posts as well as use emoticons.
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              • Profile picture of the author asinGer
                Im thinking a BIG NO! One of the great things about WF is that there are no banners, keep it that way!

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  • Profile picture of the author Uanz
    By allowing banners, I think it will bring more spammers..

    In my opinion, rather not.. as it is easy to put banners by copy &
    paste rather than writing your own signatures.. Spammers will be
    delighted if banners are allowed.. Easy for them to implement..

    Don't you think so?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
      Agree Uanz. I was thinking the same thing.

      But just wanted to know what other Warriors thought.

      And maybe Allen can give his opinion too.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cowboy
      I have to concur with you guys. Banners are a distraction to me and I don't
      think they should be posted everywhere by members.

      I do however feel they have a place on this forum and their placements should
      be determined by Allen.

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      • Profile picture of the author Aegon
        Yea it would be pointless and distracting. The WF should not be a place devoted to selling things, if it ever does then it will fail because it will serve no function to new people.

        But what I think doesn't matter. I don't own this place, and they can do whatever they want, its not a democracy.
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        • Profile picture of the author admin
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          This is a poll that should have never been posted. It will never happen no matter how the poll goes...
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          • Profile picture of the author Michael Mason
            I voted no. There are some other forums I use just for fun, and some of them allow banners in the signatures. This takes up a LOT of space on the page and you have to scroll down a lot to actually read the content on the page. I think that text links will be just fine.
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            • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
              I vote no too because it'll just make the forum look spammy!

              And yes I agree Allen. It shouldn't have been!


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              • Profile picture of the author Michael Dominic
                I think allowing graphics in the signature would ruin the atmosphere. People would get carried away, they would be flashy, and distracting...

                We're all internet marketers here, right? I think we can handle creating a powerful enough message to attract click throughs.
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                • Profile picture of the author dustinlemos
                  agreed, people will start using flash banners with sound effects and whatnot. That would get ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tirmizi
    No , it creates toooooooo much crowd .... i hate pages filled with soo many banners .... it should be just for post and not for image hosting thingi
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      I'm still zoned over the moving smilies I've seen posted in the OT - I HATE stuff moving around when I'm trying to focus on something. Banners? Ya just know someone would have stuff dancing all over them or flashing like a police car in the rearview mirror. Then there are all the issues previously mentioned.

      Vote: NO, Nadda, No way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Brian Tayler
        This would be a HUGE distraction. I like coming to a place to converse and focus on business, not be advertised to. I don't mind the WSO ads or Sponsored Ads on the front page (because they are low-key and topical).

        Banners? I can see it now... Flashing yellow and red really fast with a big font in blue saying "CLICK HERE!!!" Distracting? Yeah I'd say so...
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        • Profile picture of the author grumpyjacksa
          Fistly, I have to agree that it would undermine the mission of the WF.

          Secondly, I also hate flashing stuff when I want to read something.

          Thirdly, it will probably attract spammers.

          Lastly, the folks who still use dial up lines will have to wait forever while 25 banners are loading......

          ps....

          "Admin", isn't it good to know your decision is backed unanimously ? It shows the quality of your members you attracted, and what a success this forum actually is. Consider the replies in this thread as a compliment.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
            I'm against any banners that don't feature dancing hamsters and scantily clad elves doing the limbo.

            Here is my banner prototype. Still negotiating with the elves:

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            • Profile picture of the author zerofill
              Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

              I'm against any banners that don't feature dancing hamsters and scantily clad elves doing the limbo.
              No one would let you have a banner option anyway Kevin lol
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              • Profile picture of the author mmurtha
                Lol Don,

                Not in their right mind anyway!

                Dancing hamsters aye?

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          No banners please.
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  • Profile picture of the author rgriffiths
    I agree it will start to cause some problems. Not a good idea... But if they do approve it I would be first in line!!haha
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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      Since when were we polling for opinions on Allen's forum about his rules?...

      I'm sure he'd make it super clear if he decided to allow anything new with this switch..

      The WF rocks and I like it whatever way it is.. the aesthetics are cool and all, but it's the people that make it..IMHO...I'd be just as happy no matter how Allen decides to take it..

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      • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        Since when were we polling for opinions on Allen's forum about his rules?...

        I'm sure he'd make it super clear if he decided to allow anything new with this switch..

        The WF rocks and I like it whatever way it is.. the aesthetics are cool and all, but it's the people that make it..IMHO...I'd be just as happy no matter how Allen decides to take it..

        Jay
        Guys, I want to make clear that this poll was just to see other Warriors opinions. I wasn't trying to abuse or in any way, offend Allen.

        I as well as everyone here thinks that banners shouldn't even come to mind because it will never be happening. It would take a ton of time for all those distracting images to load. So yes, I agree with all of you and with Allen too.

        Just wanted to see how you would respond and I'm way not surprised of everyone's responses. I am sure the "Yes" votes are all from either Spammers, or total Newbiew.

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        • Profile picture of the author Lance K
          Originally Posted by tigres409 View Post

          I am sure the "Yes" votes are all from either Spammers, or total Newbiew.
          I would say that's a good guess given the absence of any replies to back up those votes.
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          • Profile picture of the author Radz
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            No Banner Signatures.. Text Signature should have rules too..
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    • Profile picture of the author Jean Morgan
      I am starting to have a problem with the pictures so banners... well Allen is spot on about this.

      This forum is quality and Allen intends to keep it that way thank God
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        • Profile picture of the author Kevin Riley
          Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

          Why is this even being discussed?
          Uhm, because this is a forum ... and we can.
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          • Profile picture of the author PJ Morales
            What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

            I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.
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            • Profile picture of the author Noah Fleming
              Originally Posted by PJ Morales View Post

              What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

              I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.
              Agreed.
              Not sure the point such a poll unless Allen is asking.
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            • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
              Originally Posted by PJ Morales View Post

              What's with these polls? "Should we have banners?" "Should bumping WSO's be allowed?"

              I didn't realize that when we moved to the new forum it suddenly became a democracy.
              So you never listen to customer suggestions or opinions? They must take it or leave it.

              Polls are great ways to test opinion, improve one's product, establish where to from here, etc.

              And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

              Jens
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              • Profile picture of the author Amino Zawawi
                Originally Posted by jensrsa View Post


                And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

                Jens
                I agree with Jens, the poll system is there for many purposes including seeing the popular votes on forum improvements.

                Here are my 2 cents:

                However, I think banners are bad idea. I've been to many forums where it takes the page forever to load because of all the sig banners.
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              • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                Originally Posted by jensrsa View Post

                So you never listen to customer suggestions or opinions? They must take it or leave it.

                Polls are great ways to test opinion, improve one's product, establish where to from here, etc.

                And I'm sure that's one of the reasons why the poll system is available.

                Jens

                I understand what you're saying, but if Allen wanted customer suggestions or feedback on this topic, he would take it upon himself to conduct the poll. But he knows that banner sigs have a 0% chance of improving the WF "product" or making members happier (so it's a moot point even if a handful would like the change).

                I say, feel free to discuss things like this, but when it comes to taking polls about changes and/or improvements to the Warrior Forum the most respectful thing to do would be to let Allen conduct his own polls (if he sees fit).
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                • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
                  Originally Posted by lakading View Post

                  the most respectful thing to do
                  Lance, nobody here disrespects Allen, quite the opposite, I'm sure.

                  And the new improved forum gives us a lot of great new toys to play with, the poll fuction just one of them.

                  Polls discussing forum features and benefits are part of the forum experience, nothing more.

                  This particlular poll topic has had no takers, even without Allen's post, so it was going nowhere. Another poll on another topic may lad to some interesting discussions.

                  So let those who want to poll, poll, I say

                  Jens
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                  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                    Originally Posted by jensrsa View Post

                    Lance, nobody here disrespects Allen, quite the opposite, I'm sure.

                    Jens, you highlighted my post which says "most respectful" so you should know that I didn't say anyone was being disrespectful.


                    Originally Posted by jensrsa View Post

                    So let those who want to poll, poll, I say
                    If you were hosting a party, would you want me to come over to your house and take a poll of all guests as to whether or not you should get new carpet and repaint your walls a different color?

                    I'm all for polls. But the WF is Allen's business to run. He's quite capable. Again, I'm not saying you don't have the right to post such polls. Just that it may not be the MOST respectful thing to do.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Ross Dalangin
                      No offense but I don't think it is a good idea because this is not a banner exchange
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                      • Profile picture of the author Jose Delgado
                        Originally Posted by Ross Dalangin View Post

                        No offense but I don't think it is a good idea because this is not a banner exchange
                        No offense taken. I have never even used a banner.
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                    • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
                      Originally Posted by lakading View Post

                      If you were hosting a party, would you want me to come over to your house and take a poll of all guests as to whether or not you should get new carpet and repaint your walls a different color?
                      Not quite the same thing though. We are members, not guests.

                      Jens
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                      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
                        Originally Posted by jensrsa View Post

                        Not quite the same thing though. We are members, not guests.

                        Jens
                        I kind of see your point, but it's a fine line.
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                        • Profile picture of the author jensrsa
                          Lance, keep in mind that there are infractions and reporting by members as a back up to prevent offensive polls, posts, images, sig files.

                          So it should never really get out of hand.

                          Jens
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                          • Profile picture of the author MichelleGreene
                            This has the potential to get out of hand -- especially with animated banners

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                          • Profile picture of the author PJ Morales
                            Well, since Jens says it IS a democracy because we're members, can we poll about anything we like? Maybe overthrow Allen because he didn't think this poll should have been posted? Maybe we should change the color scheme too. Any other suggestions?

                            I DO listen to feedback from clients, Jens, but that's a lot different than polling about changes to Allen's forum. Whether you want to see it or not, Lance's analogy was on the money, while your reasoning is off the wall.
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          • Profile picture of the author Lance K
            Originally Posted by Kevin Riley View Post

            Originally Posted by TOPGUN08 View Post

            Why is this even being discussed?
            Uhm, because this is a forum ... and we can.

            Tread lightly dear Mission Leader. The Monkey God is in your quadrant.


            Originally Posted by admin View Post

            This is a poll that should have never been posted. It will never happen no matter how the poll goes...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I agree with the consensus, it would be a problem,

    Not because banners are bad, but because someone would abuse the privilege.

    You would see, huge banners, that totally distract from the content of the post.

    I have seen this tried before and it always ends the same a few ruin it for the rest, by creating large, obtrusive banners, that flash, crash, and everything in between,

    Good thoughts, but human nature being what it is, eventually it always ends the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author 2bneil
    No, I do not want to see banners. I have visited many posts where avatars and banners are big flashing monstrosities that interfere with viewing the posts. If your sig file is compelling enough then people will follow that to your web site where you can display all the graphics you want.
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