IM is a long term business. You can build crap like autoblogs and stuff but even that with competition its hard to make money with autoblogs.

Darrin,

I agree totally. Put yourself in the place of your customer. Would you rather be exposed to re-hashed spun content or would you prefer to read original, unique, new content?

I want to brand myself and my business with original thinking and one-of-a-kind output, something that differentiates my performance.

Some will say . . . "There is nothing original, everything has already by said before. What you're calling 'original' is put into your mind by something you read or heard from someone else."

I say that's a stupid lousy argument. No one else has your exact experience, your voice, your perspective, your passion and personal "take" on various subjects. You filter your thinking in a very unique way.

Lots of artists have painted ladies sitting in a chair. But the Mona Lisa is something special and Leonardo da Vinci did it his way. Was he just copying someone else and offering nothing original? Of course not!

The very best to you all,

Steve

If you have need of good quality material, Darrin, I would be happy to help.
You can also check out the Warriors for hire section in this forum.
You'll find lots of warriors who can provide great content for you.

I would never use any spinners, scrapers or any such tools as I believe they are all c*ap.

I think people used spun content just to get backlinks to their real pages....their real pages should be good, unique content...of course everyone wants shortcuts. But since all the google changes I thought this had pretty much fallen out of favor.

Agree with you, we should see IM as a business, we create something that give value to others.. and in return we will get some money.. make your business bigger and you can give more value to others then you will make more money..


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While I agree content is king for visitor engagement, I still don't think Google knows[without doing a manual review] if the content is good or otherwise. They can gain information from your bounce rate if you have duplicate content etc but from a lot of the rubbish that is ranking high on Google you can ascertain that they can still be manipulated without much effort. So my view is yes create great content for the visitor as opposed to Google.

What I've found is that these people are typically focused on making money (in the short term) than building a brand (makes you money in the long term)

Although in fact, crap content is still a bad idea even for a short term venture, you can gain a bit of traction more quickly before you stall.

That's my 2 cents at least

Well said! Although, I think the days of slapping together a quick website and making a few bucks are almost gone too. People have been online long enough now and are getting sick of they empty promises game. It is only quality that will stand apart from the rest.

Nearly impossible.

Carl,

I like your zeal . . . and you are right . . . there are many paths that can be taken when starting out. The caution I would give to any newbie is this:

Going full force with the flow just because something "feels right to you" could easily lead to a head-on collision with reality.

Focus on original, high quality, relevant and targeted to your niche content that you develop yourself or have developed for you.

Don't go near scraped, copied, or plagiarized content.

It might "feel right" to go after quantity and the easy, least effort solution.

Build a long term, honest business. If you take care of your customers - they will take care of you.

Steve

why so much content?

I am not here to write or educate. screw G. and what they want.

Some do...no where near as profitable as they claim of course.

Pro traders go for about 5% monthly gains...

Spam fx robots can make me 30%+ month, apparrently. No risk all the time to boot.

I would say it largely depends on what you need the content for?

If it's for your main "authority" site, then yeah, using scrapers/spinners will only get you junk unreadable stuff, but if you just need something to put out there on your 2nd/3rd tier sites, then these tools do help to save some time...

What I have observed so far is, people hardly uses spun content at their main business site or blog. They use spun contents to create web 2.0 properties, article submission at article directories etc. In short, most of the people use spun articles for link building.

For a good service provider, every client is valuable. Clients have got the right to get the possible best service.

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Content is king... but only if you have your other bases covered. I've got one site that we spent years filling up with content but I never really linked it up because it stayed on the back burner. It gets very little traffic even though it's filled with a ton of 100% original content. We'll get around to it one day but the message here is that yes, you'll constantly hear about "content" but it is useless without quality incoming links, optimized seo, etc.

I totally agree. My concern is that when a site is aimed at a single market or a single product, how much unique content can you REALLY create?

a newbie? that puts some of us oldies to shame WoW

If you can write 5000 words a day, everyday, of very good content...

You will be one VERY rich man.

Spinning is on the way out. Are you seriously going to bet against those genius types over at Google not figuring it out?

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I don't really understand this obsession with publishing mass content quickly. So much better to publish one high quality, well thought out and indepth tutorial or wiki (well researched and written from scratch) every week than 1000 low quality spun out, barely comprehensible 'articles' a day. The first way benefits your reader and will provide the best long term success for your site with readers and Google Search. And, yes I understand what you are saying as to how it seems many people use spun articles for publishing on blogs. However, I don't really see it that way. It's just that the people who use article spinner software and other blackhat techniques are often the most vocal, in order to draw attention to themselves. Seems to be working but in a negative way.

being a flash in the pan isn't the way to go! Longevity all the way... building a solid foundation with quality content

yeah man so true...garbage in, garbage out. Better to keep your content fresh and useful and engaging.

Hi Darrin

Automation in your business is a sticky subject for some people unfortunately But I believe you can certainly create great quality and value in the marketplace, and also automate some of these processes.

For Example, if you use articles in your marketing? then creating unique content, and then spinning that, is certainly acceptable if you know how to do it the right way, But let me just stress that the important factor is certainly in your methods and how you go about doing it firstly and foremostly

Because in my eyes there are two types of marketer, the Spammy Marketer, who may be in it for a quick buck, and probably doesn't really care about the longevity of their business and may also have limited knowledge... or there is the Good Savvy Marketer who cares about their reputation, business and understands the importance of leverage.

The important thing to remember here is that, if you have a quality product and service that you know provides massive value in your marketplace, then surely getting your message out there to as many people as you physically can is essential.

There are certain ways to do this, and there are also many different avenues to generate traffic or customers. Articles can be a very effective way to generate leads, but try to diversify your approach and use lots of different modalities to help your customer understand what it is you have to offer.

And for those people who comment in the forum with limited knowledge, I know methods that can help you to create unique quality articles which are over 200% spun, totally individual and unique, read perfectly, and can create up to around 20,000 different unique articles from around two main articles that are hand written by myself and merged.

And I can assure you they provide massive value, and are totally google compliant and white hat. And send a customer through a specific system and funnel nicely.

Remember as long as you are passionate about your business and have good marketing ethics!! then, automation can only help those processes and save you time in the long run Just remember to be unique, authentic, provide massive value and you wont go far wrong

Hope this helps, and please be sure to thank if you like, Also I have a WSO that may help you, you can find it in the link below.

Because there are loopholes and people will exploit them.

Either it's short term gain, or long term gains.

Everyone has different sides.

Do you want to run a brand site, or a spam site.