Make Money Instantly Bullcrap

You know I've got to say that this is one of the most hypocritical posts I've seen lately.

All this work hard, there's no such thing as make a lot of money fast, it's a real business etc. talk is perhaps all true but your point is lost when you are advertising a secret way to make $271 in the next 2 hours.

Most real life, hard workers don't make $271 in the next 2 hours from scratch. You know it. You're preaching against that idea. But then you are spreading the lie yourself.

Mark

Oh, the signature irony!!

I've never met anyone who ever expected instant riches. All most people want is a way to make $271 in the next two hours. Not riches, not instantly, just a few hundred in a few hours would be nice. If only there was a way.

good for you , but lets just hope you stick to what your preaching and don't revert back to the old way

Great, you've switched from the make money right now newbie model to the "don't listen to all these guru scammers I believe in real value!" newbie model. In either case you're still repeating half truths you've heard from others.

There are a number of ways to make money online but none of them are going to instantly get you money. I remember the very first product that I made and then tried to bring it to market. I thought it was going to do good. I spent time and money on graphics. I had a very killer copyright. I then put it on jvzoo still thinking I was going to make a ton of money. The first week past I ended up not making one sale. I didn't make my first sale for almost 2 months. I spent that time building up my facebook fanbase by driving traffic to a free offer. That was coasting me 140 a week at the time that was all I could afford to spend on advertising. I wrote another ebook that I gave away. I now had to keep making fresh content for my rapidly growing fanbase. I hit one million followers by the end of the second month then I posted my product there. I was hopping that I would sell at least one. I needed to sell a few before I even broke even much less make money. Then I made 500 sales in the first day. That was with people liking and sharing my product. Then over the next few weeks I started gaining affiliates also this was a plus for sure. Then I waited another month till the guarantee was gone on the first sales was over before I even withdrew any money what so ever. Then I had to provide support for my product that took around four to five hours a day No that product did not make me a millionaire but it did teach me how to market correctly and how important building relations with people is. I do not think I would have ever sold even a single copy of my book if I had not gained the followers. I still use facebook now a days. I also know what high quality products and services are now. This is what none of the products books or other systems are going to tell you. I am glad I did not buy one in less I saw a real need to for it. I did buy a few books on facebook marketing and one on list building. IM takes work and is far from instant.

Can I give a person $300 in value within 2 hours or not?

So the point you were getting at was the exact opposite idea expressed in your OP?

Well, okay, thanks for sharing your insights. Anyway.

Nemious, you are on the right track, but -

Let's say your skill was copywriting and not product creation. Or

Let's say you had a team (or a loose alliance of friends who could deliver a... website or brochure or whatever)... Or

Let's say you were a woman with a big butt and a smile. Or

Let's say you had a responsive mailing list. Or

Let's say you spend half of that 2 hours assembling previous projects into a portfolio, made a post on WF, and waited to get paid.

Usually when someone tells people that there's no way to do X they're either being general or mindlessly reductive.

Agree, agree, agree. Building an online income takes months, and even years for some people.

And another scammer is born

I'm sticking to get rich quick thanks. The time to fail is a lot shorter. And time is money as they say.

I understand what you're saying, in regard to the basic operation of a business. But let's not fool ourselves too much. The Web is a very different and unique landscape that provides a marketplace unlike any marketplace the world has ever known. The most distinct feature is certainly the ability to easily reach hundreds, thousands, millions of highly-targeted potential customers at the touch of a button. The only disturbing aspect of this phenomenon is that marketers can target anyone --- including less discerning shoppers who don't have the mental capacity to know what the $300 ebook they just bought is really worth. Kind of sad, actually.

I'm sorry but just because you cant make money quickly it doesn't mean others cant. The get rich quick methods are not for everyone, and typically involve gambling or very high risk situations.

I have both made and lost thousands of dollars within the space of a few hours.

But like with everything in life, It's only the people with the balls to risk and the guts to learn that will reap the rewards.

Diice

This is one of the smartest statements I've read on WF in quite some time.

There are excellent points.

I believe this is one of the main reason -- if not THE MAIN reason why people fail online. People think they can come into this business making a lot of money and make it fast.

The truth of the matter is you have to invest both Time and Money.

I know a lot of people will say you can make money on the internet without spending -- but more then likely these are the people jumping from one program to the next not having a clear plan on what to do.

You need to invest your money in both training and later on paid traffic to help grow your business, and test out your sales funnels and conversions. You also have to invest in a mentor or coaching program, so you don't waste your money figuring things out on your own.

Lastly you have to invest time. We can get the best teacher in the world to help us -- but we will not get anywhere until we take action and see what actually works for us.

Great post, making money online is about patience and hard work

Simple enough.
My advice is simple enough too. Take your backlinks and put them where people will see them. No different than those advertisements we see driving down the interstate.

I have to disagree with the OP, and probably most of you. While I agree you can't "get rich instantly" (unless you win the lotto, or casino, or inherit something) you most certainly can make money very very quickly online (and off). And I don't mean a couple bucks, rather several hundred at the least.

The REAL problem is people tend to look in all the wrong places to make good fast money, instead of focusing on the fundamentals of what works.

"So, Ivan... you think you can make money fast eh? Let's hear it!"

Sure. I'm not speaking blindness here. (Don't let my "post count" fool you. This is a new profile but I've been around for a looong time).

1. WSOs. The heart of this very forum is built around one of the fastest ways to make money online. Yes, there are people spending months on products to perform 6-figure WSO launches, however, making a quick and easy profit for a very short period of work is not hard at all.

Basically you fire up Microsoft Word, write up a topic you know about, save it as a pdf, create a W+ account/listing, upload the pdf to W+, write up a WSO post and submit. Done. If you product was any good you'll make some money. If you manage to talk to a few people to promote it for you, even better.

Sure that method is very basic at most, and there are infinite ways to improve it... but the point is ANYONE can go in with very little knowledge of product creation and sell a highly profitable WSO and that entire process can take as little as a few hours.

And don't lecture me on "2 hour quality". You can most certainly provide a lot of value while only spending 2-3 hours writing an ebook. You may have knowledge of something that could be very useful to others... as long as the value is there, it doesn't matter how long it took you.

2. Outsourcing/Arbitrage. You can make money, damn good money, within a couple hours with zero experience just by being the middle man. You find someone in need of something done (get on craigslist, odesk, WF, other forums, you name it)... then you go find someone who provides that service.. (craigslist, odesk, WF, other forums, Fiverr you name) and you act as the middle man for a cut of the profit.

Don't lecture me on this being some sort of "scammy business". It's the biggest business there is. WalMart is just a middle man. Amazon.. middle man. Real Estate agent... middle man.

You can literally start right now and have found both the consumer and the suppler in less than an hour from now. I've done this a lot and made tuckloads of cash in the process.

That's just 2 ways. I could spit out a lot more. People over-complicate stuff. There is no need for it. Focus on the basic principles of any business (product/service creation, outsourcing, listbuilding/customer acquisition) and you will do fine.

Forget about those fancy elaborate over-hyped systems and programs that promise the world. Just focus on the basics and you can make money faster than you ever have in your life.

To the OP:

1. Most people making comments after you made clear your change of course obviously didn't take the time to read the entire thread. One of my pet peeves is when someone admits "I didn't read this entire thread or even your entire post but here's my opinion anyway". Not helpful, in most cases, in any sense of the word.

2. If you've changed your opinion and way of doing things, the respectable, ethical, moral people are applauding you. The idiots that would sell their soul or their mother's soul for a quick buck think you are the idiot.

3. RE: Constructive criticism vs. criticism - you deserved criticism. It appeared to anyone that read your post while you still had your signature there that you were going to keep the "scam" going on the backend while preaching against that very type of scam on the frontend. There was nothing nice or constructive to say.

4. Now that you've made your intentions and change of mind clear, if it's true, then you need help, support, friendship, etc. as you progress on your journey.

Good luck.

Mark

People tend to put the cart before the horse. They want the wealth but without the work and they want it fast... but without having mastered any aspect of what they are doing.

The simple fact of life is that it will pay you whatever you ask of it, but in order to achieve that you have to render service of greater 'perceived' value than the monetary compensation you will receive in return.

The more people you can render this service to, the more wealthy you will become.

Anyone that thinks they can 'push a button' and become rich is delusional.

You can make thousands or even millions in a day. One of my friends emailed me the other day to tell me he had just made $152,000 in a day. He deserves every cent of it because he took the time to learn his craft and persevere at times when most people would quit. Nobody from the outside sees that he dedicated 14 years of his life to reach the point where he could bank 150k in a day.

Food for thought!

Thanks for the word on the crucial nature of shopping carts, shopping cart expert Tom Reed.

david so true,
it also took me a while to realize that there is NO magic bullet or program which can make me rich.
whatever i did - it was hard work. in the contrast, when i set up a site and did NOT work hard on it it didn't get enough traffic or just so lala and then "failed" - actually it didn't fail, it just didn't get enough attention from my part.
fact is: when you open an offline business you work your butt off, day in and day out. you simply do your very very best and market like crazy.
funny thing is that when you open an online business you think that things will just happen when you publish one post per week... 1 post per week means, even if you put in a lot of time, in max 2 hours. so it will be normal that someone who puts in 40+ hours per week will reach more much quicker than someone who invests just 2 hours.
so it all depends:
how much time can you devote to your business and actually do things beside talking, asking or learning?

Thanks for that post. That is the one thing know about this internet marketing thing, is that IT IS a business and I need to treat it as such. There's so much I need to learn. But going inti this as a business will help.
Lisa

Hi David,

Some good ideas in your post but if you think setting goals or self hypnosis or reading self development books will enable you to start making money, we are sorry to burst your bubble but that alone will not change your fortunes.

Relationship and list building is what makes it! The money really is in your list. Create a squeeze page, give away something related to your niche for free yet having real value.

We also believe in writing a content packed free information blog with frequent updates of fresh material with a link to your squeeze page. Adding good video and related pictures also help to make it appealing and finally driving targeted traffic to that blog is the way to eventual success at list building.

Then give your list good follow up more free yet value information before adding in week two a link to a product or an affiliate related product at the end of more useful information so you are not selling but recommending a way to speed up their knowledge or progress in the niche they signed up to learn more about.

Answer their questions instead of asking for their money. Solve their problems and some will buy your recommendations eventually and more as your list grows?

That is what we do and it works for us.

Stephen & Jennifer.

There truly is no other way to get rich. Have you ever seen a millionaire online that did it slow?

Making a little money for a long time UNTIL they are rich? NO

You see someone who tries a long time. Then BAM. They get rich QUICK! All this you can't get rich crap. is just that. CRAP. There are certain things you can do to get there. But no one I know who is rich got rich SLOW.

Get that outta your head!

Most people who work hard make s*&#&. Work doesn't pay. It's simple as that, it smart work, leveraged etc. But working most of the time is just futile.

I lead horses to water all the time... the problem is when the horse expects me to scoop the water into a cup and hand it to him with a little umbrella in it. That horse is an idiot.

This went too far

Am I alone or is anyone else sick of only seeing raving review for products on the forum when they're launched? How is that delivering value to the end user who's paying the bill for all this? It's bull crap. I have purchased product on here that was less then mediocre and yet all you see is rave reviews. If anyone posts a legitimate negative review because the software or product really is junk, it's removed, and only the rave reviews are left which is misleading, false advertising and total bullshit.

If you crate a product and you can't take the fact that some people are going to NOT like it, or will be real developers and tell you it's crap, then you shouldn't be in the business. There are real developers out there, serious programmers, not just flogging another piece of junk to pad their pockets while emptying the pockets of others with pipe dreams that they can never deliver.

When I see nothing but rave reviews on a product launch on the forum anymore, I automatically assume they paid for those reviews, or, it's like the good old boys club, you scratch my back I'll scratch yours and we'll all bullshit about how great everything we do is when in fact, IT"S NOT! I believe the forum should leave the negative reviews along with the positive ones so that the buyer gets a fair idea. This isn't a forum if it removes negative or not so glowing reviews. Just my thoughts. Thanks

There aren't very many paid reviews here - but what DOES happen often is that a product gets rave reviews "conceptually", then flunks out in actual practice. And people don't want to go back and post their results after everyone already saw their glowing review.

When I first entered internet marketing I was sold "the dream" and "get rich quick" too.

I was told, recruit this person, than they can recruit that person, who in turn recruits another person!

Now that I look back I see people fall victim to MLM and lies all the time.

But if you are really serious, you will make it a goal to build a REAL sustainable business online.

I know I will help my people out and show them the right way !

Lots of trial and error and experience I have been through to get where I am today.

And I am still learning and getting better each and everyday.

I don't think you are in a position to be giving advice on making money from home until you have actually made it...

Yes I agree that you have to work to make money since I have done exactly that myself... It took me 6 years to hit a 6 figure income from home... Who is to say that is not quick through?

What is get rich quick truly? I personally believe 6 years is pretty dang quick!

What is not possible is get rich in 30 days from scratch, but the word quick has so many different interpretations to some people then to others...

I wish people would not give advice on a topic until they are actually successful with that area in their life...

I dont' think most people like or want to work, why do you think millions demand and get stuff for free?

The only way I can think of to make money instantly is to be involved with some form of gambling. But I understand where the OP is coming from. I wasted a lot of money chasing get rich quick schemes. In fact I used to collect sales letters for entertainment value. With me it was mail-order though. Once I got onto their mailing lists I would get a bunch of offers almost everyday. I was hooked. I am now wise enough to realize that there is no such thing as get rich quick.

I've built websites for guys who have no business plan and those who have 2000 page business plans.

Makes no difference as to the eventual success or failure of their business.

This is a great thread with some very valuable insights. What I have learned in my internet marketing journey falls right into what many are saying about "over-complicating" the business.

There are so many high converting offers out there that one literally can latch onto any one of them and start being successful immediately, IF they know how to market.

So many people get hung up on the product that they lose sight of the exposure part. Then they realize exposure is everything and then they try to be a master at everything. Stop it!

One of the most valuable things I ever did to make money quickly was first find out one ONE OR TWO marketing methods I enjoyed, and then became great at those through repetition. To me, that is key. Because if you are really good at a few marketing methods(video marketing, FB PPC, blogging, banner ads, etc.) you can literally create money instantly by just plug and play any offer you choose.

The "cart before the horse" is indeed rampant amongst inexperienced/unsuccessful marketers, but in reality it's the quality of ones marketing that equals success. At least that is my experience.

-Spiegs

Hello
I`m totally 100% with your thought, that`s right we should treat our internet business like offline business
So many people know that offline business may take some efforts and time to achieve the best results but about people who would start their online business, they should not change this concept and their mindset must be set up and focused on this
" HAVE TO KNOW, THIS IS AS REAL AS AN OFFLINE BUSINESS".
Thanks very much for sharing this amazing post

This is true that when wso owner write something sweet in their copy will make more sale, especially when they show a Lamborghini in the video, this image trigger the push button in your mind to click on the buy now button.

I still believe in push button magic, just no one have build one for us.
i can tell from my experience, anything that you do with a computer is possible to replicate with programming. (beside creative work)

those guru will not build this because the investment and workload is huge, plus the newbie are all stupid, just make simple plugin and invest in sales copy, they will come and buy anyway.