Can it be a future WSO?


keith

Personally, I am still very green in promoting WSO at the subtle level at the main forum. There is still alot of marketing to be learnt from you guys.

In my opinion, I will do my best to answer any question pertaining to my expertise and experience. And giving away info just enough to help the person solve his problem or issue then.

I will take it as relationship and trust-building for the long term.

A good example, in my opinion, is Steven Wagenheim. He is sharing so much of high value and quality. So I feel his products are going to be of the same standard too. =)

Any WSO released by him is going to be snatched up fast.

(Another point I realised lately is how I choose which WSO to read or to find out more. I see the names of the creator.)

John

I agree Bev.
It's about time more people started hitting the report button
and making them vanish.

What's that old saying, "don't sell a salesman"!? ; )

Why don't you spill the beans Bev?

Arindam

What's odd, that regardless how transparent some posters can be in self-promotion, if they would just be smart they would get just as much traffic.

For example, if you were a traffic guru and had a WSO running and had it in your sig, and someone posted a question about traffic...a really concise and helpful post(non promotional) will actually cause people to look in your sig.

If I am looking at the above example thread, and I see that someone has been helpful and sounds knowledgable, my eyes drift right to their sig file.

If someone comes across spammy and is self promoting, I avoid them like the plauge, and that includes their products...regardless of who they are.

But that's just me. Maybe my ethics prevents me from making much more than I could. But I can live with that.

keith

Jeff, thank you for the kind words as well as your other thoughts, all of
which I agree with on the surface.

Here's the problem.

It's called motive.

When somebody makes a post to this forum, there is always a motive
behind that post. Yes, even I have my motives. Make no mistake about it.

What are they?

Simple. I hope to provide information to the other members of this forum
so as to earn their trust in the hopes that down the road, they might
become customers or at least subscribers of mine.

After all, this is a marketing forum, right? If we're here for purely altruistic
purposes, aren't there better ways to spend our time?

I mean let's be honest. I am pretty sure that everybody here either has a
business to run or it hoping someday TO have a business to run. Otherwise
why bother being here? I don't hang out at chess forums because I just
don't have any interest in the game anymore. I don't play. I don't plan to
play and I don't have any plans to be a world chess champion someday. So
there is nothing there for me. The people who are here are here for two
reasons.

1. To gain knowledge.
2. To share knowledge.

If there are no people here to share knowledge then nobody can gain
knowledge. So somebody has to start these "Here's how to..." posts.
Otherwise, this forum dies.

Agree with me so far?

Okay, the motives of the folks who are here to gain knowledge are clear as
day. They want to improve themselves so that they can make more money.

It's that simple.

However, the motives of those who help the other members are not so cut
and dried.

I've admitted mine. I hope that someday, some of these people will trust
me enough to become customers.

But some people are looking for a fast buck. They're posting with the
intent of making an immediate sale.

Problem is, how can we tell the difference between the two?

It's almost impossible unless you are just incredibly intuitive. And even
then, this whole forum had it all wrong about me when I first got here.
I was labeled a scammer from day one simply because I replied to about
80 posts in one day. Okay, not smart, but not done with any criminal
intent in mind. I was just trying to help some folks who needed it.

Yes, there are other motives for people being here. Some are looking to
network and get JVs with others. Some people just like to hang out at
forums because they love to chat. That's their motive. But I think they're
the exception to the rule. I think if you got honest answers from most of
the members here, you'll find that they're looking to get something out of
their time here. And there is nothing wrong with that. At least not in my
opinion. Again, we're not running charities.

Yes, some people are quite transparent and you can tell right away what
they're up to. But with others, it's not so easy.

That's why I think it's great that we have a member moderated forum now.
If you think a post is inappropriate, report it. It's that simple. Yes, the
newer folks will have a harder time doing this. But there are plenty of old
timers here (I do not consider myself one of them) who can sniff out a
con a mile away.

Point is, I don't worry about this all that much. I truly believe that this
problem, if it is a problem, will take care of itself through member moderation.

Anyway, I've rambled on long enough. I'm getting close to 9,000 posts so
I have to try to come up with something intelligent to say.

I'll try to keep it as altruistic as I can.

I am surprised at the digs at Jeremy. He has personally looked at a few of my websites for free when I asked him about affiliate promotion pages (not my strongest suit) and I have to say he has provided plenty of value to me for free.

TomG.