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11 years ago

Erm, I have not used WP before in my Internet Marketing business.
(But I am going to learn soon!)

But I can assure you one thing though, ClickBank is definitely a platform worth promoting for affiliates. Normally, the main reason why I don't trust unknown affiliate networks is because I am not sure whether if it will cheat on me or not. But after using ClickBank and made a few sales, it definitely not a network that is cheating on me.

Just simply search Google, you will come up with tons of affiliate getting rich through Clickbank. This just shows that its a reliable affiliate network that you can consider going into.

As for Market Samurai, you should definitely invest in this. I have used it before and it's quite a good software for searching relevant keywords for your niche market. If you are unsure, you can try the trial version before you buy the full version.

Hope it helps
Ethan

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Matthew Trujillo

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ethan Chong

Erm, I have not used WP before in my Internet Marketing business.
(But I am going to learn soon!)

But I can assure you one thing though, ClickBank is definitely a platform worth promoting for affiliates. Normally, the main reason why I don't trust unknown affiliate networks is because I am not sure whether if it will cheat on me or not. But after using ClickBank and made a few sales, it definitely not a network that is cheating on me.

I agree with you Ethan, I have promoted offers on other systems before and have brought the targeted traffic, but no opt ins or much less conversions. Than the way some affiliate programs pay out, is not always on time and all this other stuff. The offer might look good, but be careful who you work with in this business.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

thanks for your answers, should I choose another one than clickbank ?

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ReapingGrim

11 years ago

There is no "Better network", it all depends on how you market your product. The amount of work you put in will equal the amount of money you make.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ReapingGrim

There is no "Better network", it all depends on how you market your product. The amount of work you put in will equal the amount of money you make.

Ok, I want to start the work and learning this today before tomorrow, I need from where I can start the forum is very big for me, how can I choose the best product ... ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

how can I choose the best product ... ?

This may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

And if you're planning to promote ClickBank products as an affiliate, this might help, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

witch guarantee i'll have that my products will sold ?

None. There are no guarantees, in business. Affiliate marketing online is all about understanding the basic essentials (some of which are listed in the threads mentioned just above), and gradually negotiating a learning-curve, without falling off it, so that you can get the odds of success increasingly in your favor, rather than stacked against you. But there are no "guarantees", because there's always a lot to learn, and your future income and the success of your future business will always depend on your own developing skill-set, how educable you are, and getting hold of the right information to teach yourself (not always as easy as it looks). Good luck!

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

This may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2161932

And if you're planning to promote ClickBank products as an affiliate, this might help, too: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

I was looking for that, thanks Alexa, do you think clickbank is the best way to start this ?

and how much time i'll wait to say that some method was not the good one ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

I was looking for that, thanks Alexa, do you think clickbank is the best way to start this ?

Difficult question! I think it is for some people, not for others. I can't tell whether it will be, for you. But one thing I'll advise you about strongly: don't try to become a ClickBank affiliate unless you want to do list-building and use an autoresponder, because that would really be stacking the deck against yourself.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Difficult question! I think it is for some people, not for others. I can't tell whether it will be, for you. But one thing I'll advise you about strongly: don't try to become a ClickBank affiliate unless you want to do list-building and use an autoresponder, because that would really be stacking the deck against yourself.

but how a list-building will help me if I want to advertise a product ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

but how a list-building will help me if I want to advertise a product ?

Very, very few people will buy a ClickBank product on the strength of a recommendation from someone they don't trust. You need to establish credibility so that they trust you. For ClickBank products, it's extremely difficult (if possible at all!) to do that without list-building.

These posts/threads answer your question. Have a good read ...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8611649
Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?
Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing
Does anyone even make money online without an email list?
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Very, very few people will buy a ClickBank product on the strength of a recommendation from someone they don't trust. You need to establish credibility so that they trust you. For ClickBank products, it's extremely difficult (if possible at all!) to do that without list-building.

These posts/threads answer your question. Have a good read ...

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8611649
Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?
Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing
Does anyone even make money online without an email list?
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

Thanks for all this stuff alexa, it will help me a lot, since I thought that I can sell CK products with just a website talking about the product, rank it well in google ...

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

I thought that I can sell CK products with just a website talking about the product, rank it well in google ...

You can try. I can't sell them that way, and don't know anyone who can.

There are a couple of people here (I think literally a couple) who claim to. I'll leave it up to you to look through their posts, including what those same people post on other subjects, and you can decide for yourself whether any of it makes any sense to you. (I think you'll find they're usually people selling some kind of IM-advisory product or service which is to do with affiliate marketing without listbuilding - draw your own conclusions!).

Here's the thing: for those of us making our livings and building our businesses this way, websites don't really sell CB products. Sure, you can can have hoplinks and product reviews and stuff like this on an "affiliate niche site" but the people who click on those links and actually buy the product are people who have got there by following a link in an email, having subscribed to your list at an earlier visit to the site. There are lots of reasons why this is so, and many of them are explained in those posts/threads linked to, above.

And here's the other thing: SEO traffic is the worst you can get for ClickBank sales, in all my experience of lots of different niches over many years. (And there are reasons for that, too). Almost 20% of my traffic comes from search engines, but only about 3% of my income is accounted for by that traffic, because all my other, non-SEO traffic converts far better. There are plenty of other Warriors reporting this, too, by the way - it isn't only me.

So, my conclusion is that to make any money worth talking about, from being a ClickBank affiliate, you need to build lists (and everything that that entails), and you need a predominantly non-SEO source of traffic, as well.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

You can try. I can't sell them that way, and don't know anyone who can.

There are a couple of people here ...

Ok so the idea for me now is more clear, i'll start reading the threads above and I'll see how can I build my ownlist and use it (can you advice me some good threads about this making a good list and how to use it ?) I'll be very thankful for you, I'll try also SEO stuff just to have an idea about this

do you have any more methods non-SEO to cell clickbank products ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

can you advice me some good threads about this making a good list and how to use it ?

These 5 threads might get you started ...

What are the essential things to know about list building?

Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages

Website or squeeze page

Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?

Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

do you have any more methods non-SEO to cell clickbank products ?

I generate more than three-quarters of my traffic through article marketing, because I happen to be a writer anyway (but there are many other ways, too).

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11 years ago

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

These 5 threads might get you started ...

I really appreciate your help, ok I'll take a look at those links about building lists, and I'll take a look also for the article marketing and how to use it

just a quick question, by building a specific email list (clients targeted by a kind of product) that mean I can't send them a product of another category, so I'll sell them just products from the same category ? or I'll find an answer for that in the threads that you give me. Last point I see many people here talking about the The War Room, should I pay for this now, or I should wait until I learn more about this ?

Originally Posted by DTGeorge

Why try to reinvent the wheel?

You already have one massively in demand skill - web development.

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Thanks for the reply, I already work as a freelancer in my free time, and if now I'm here is, first to learn new things, and to be honest, developing is a thing that I've done years ago, and I think I'll never stop it since it's my option at my studies

and I saw many people making really good money with IM so, why not

Originally Posted by tonyla

As to not overload yourself with information stay focused and learn how to build a list....

Thanks for this, ok I think the good thing is to start by learning about emails lists,

Can you please to tell me what do you mean by plr content, sorry I don't speak english very well,

and for the methods I'll take a look first here, and learn all the information given by all of you

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

just a quick question, by building a specific email list (clients targeted by a kind of product) that mean I can't send them a product of another category, so I'll sell them just products from the same category ?

Generally, it probably should mean more or less that, yes.

In theory, once they're opted in to your list, you can send them more or less what you want, but in reality if you start sending them much "other stuff", (a) some will unsubscribe, and (b) others won't like it. The effect of their not liking it will be that your open-rates, attention-rates and click-through rates will all drop significantly, and it can easily be counter-productive to do this, in the long run, even if you do manage to make a few quick "extra" sales out of it. Not recommended at all, in my opinion. "The long run" is what matters, when you're building a business.

Which is a reason for selecting a niche in which there'll always be enough targeted, highly-niche-relevant products to promote.

When I first started, I had a couple of (effectively) "one-product niches", but this turned out not to be the best idea, for me.

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

or I'll find an answer for that in the threads that you give me.

Only tangentially/inferentially: look for the comments about "continuity", which is hugely important - and very directly income-related - in communicating with subscribers. Generally, people who ignore the significance of "continuity" are the ones who end up trying to convince themselves that it's normal and acceptable to have a 25% open-rate (i.e. that three-quarters of your own subscribers are unwilling even to open emails from you!!

). Needless to say, it isn't acceptable at all (to me, it would feel like a total disaster), and it's relatively easily avoidable.

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

Last point I see many people here talking about the The War Room, should I pay for this now, or I should wait until I learn more about this ?

I never know the answer to this. People vary. Most people here, seeing your question, will quickly say "yes" to it (as you can see from other threads where it's discussed) ... and it's very unlikely indeed that you really wouldn't get $37-worth of "value" out of it. When you need it, I don't know. I was quite slow to join it, myself, and ended up wishing I'd joined it earlier, so I perhaps shouldn't comment.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Generally, it probably should mean more or less that, yes...

What can I say, a big thanks to you, I think it's enough for me until now, I'll see all the threads that you gived to me, I'll take a notebook and organize all this,

i'll try TWR for a month and see what I can learn

just a quick one last thing, really sorry, I have about 200$ I want to spend it in this, what can you give me as advice for it, what ebook should I buy, what product or tool should I buy ... ?

Can I contact you some times to tell you witch point I reached and taking more advice ?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

i'll try TWR for a month and see what I can learn

I'd try it for 20 years, if you're going to do that.

It costs $37 for 20 years for that one single payment, not $37 per month.

That makes it an easier decision, doesn't it?

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

I have about 200$ I want to spend it in this, what can you give me as advice for it, what ebook should I buy, what product or tool should I buy ... ?

I would (and did) spend money only on a domain-name or two (when you're ready), some hosting for a website or two, and the first few months of an autoresponder service subscription (stick to Aweber or GetResponse). You'll "get out for under $100". The financial entry-barriers to starting an internet marketing business really are remarkably low.

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

Can I contact you some times to tell you witch point I reached and taking more advice ?

I always reply to private messages. I reply slowly when I'm busy, and quickly when I'm not busy, but I always reply. Then again, you're better asking things on the board, because you'll get plenty of other people's opinions too, that way.

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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

That makes it an easier decision, doesn't it?

I'll go for this then

I would (and did) spend money only on a domain-name or two (when you're ready), some hosting for a website or two, and the first few months of an autoresponder service subscription (stick to Aweber or GetResponse). You'll "get out for under $100". The financial entry-barriers to starting an internet marketing business really are remarkably low.

Ok when I'm ready I'll do this, some threads about autoresponders ?

I always reply to private messages. I reply slowly when I'm busy, and quickly when I'm not busy, but I always reply. Then again, you're better asking things on the board, because you'll get plenty of other people's opinions too, that way.

I wish I come here years before.

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

Ok when I'm ready I'll do this, some threads about autoresponders ?

Surely ... but not threads asking "which autoresponder?": those discussions are all together in one place: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...te-thread.html ... but anyway, you won't go wrong if you use GetResponse or Aweber, and don't ever use a "free" one. This is all you need to know, on the subject of "which one to use".
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- filalizakariae 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith
  
  Surely ... but not threads asking "which autoresponder?": those discussions are all together in one place...
  
  Ok so let's start studies
  
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AllanJames

11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

So after some searching, I found that I can promote products using clickbank, and for this i need to create a website reviewing the product and I need to promote this website,

Well that's one way but far from the only way - and building and ranking sites is soooo slow it's like watching grass grow It usually takes months to rank sites for high competition buyer keywords.

And a website is not necessary. You can simply find a great product or service, go out and advertise it on the web, and make money today.

What sort of advertising?

It depends on the product or service but, for Make Money Online type offers it could free methods (slow) or paid methods ie. Solo Ads, PPC, PPV, Media Buys etc..
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filalizakariae

11 years ago

Originally Posted by AllanJames

Well that's one way but far from the only way - and building and ranking sites is soooo slow it's like watching grass grow It usually takes months to rank sites for high competition buyer keywords.

And a website is not necessary. You can simply find a great product or service, go out and advertise it on the web, and make money today.

What sort of advertising?

It depends on the product or service but, for Make Money Online type offers it could free methods (slow) or paid methods ie. Solo Ads, PPC, PPV, Media Buys etc..
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Thanks for the reply,

but how am I supposed to advertise a product in the web without a ranked website ? from where i'll get the potential clients ?

and if I use paid methods for advertising, witch guarantee i'll have that my products will sold ?

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theweekendguy

Banned 11 years ago

I think clickbank is best for affiliate promotion or you can use getawab services for advertising.

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DTGeorge

11 years ago

Originally Posted by filalizakariae

Hello WF members

I'm glad to be one of you now, so to be brief

I'm a web developer but a newbie in IM,

and I want to start this, I have some $$ with me that I want to investigate on IM

So after some searching, I found that I can promote products using clickbank, and for this i need to create a website reviewing the product and I need to promote this website,

another research, I found the Market Samurai, witch I think it's a very nice tool to help me for this,

also I saw a WP plugin "promoteme", but I saw many negative reviews on this,

so, if it's possible that you tell me, if clickbank is a good way to make money, if no, do you have better ideas ?

And I think I'll buy Market Samurai, can I have any reviews about it, and how it will help me ?

And last anyone have try the "promoteme" plugin, and there is any other product who's doing the same thing ? and should I learn about any other products to help me for this ?

best regards and thanks a lot

Why try to reinvent the wheel?

You already have one massively in demand skill - web development.

Why not market your skill online and get buyers? Why not sell your service?

At the very least, you'll be spending a few months learning about affiliate marketing and building your website and bringing traffic etc.

Why spend all that time on something new that you may or may not even be good at when you have a HOT skill that many people will want?