by nenala
6 replies
Hello fellow warriors,

I am new here, as you can see
I have read a lot on this forum though, before singing up.. and now I would like to ask my own question...

Of course, like most newbees, I have clung myself too fast to a niche topic. It might have been better to focus a bit more on a sub topic and narrow down the huge market I chose.. Yes.. I am speaking abut the self development market.
However, I am very passionate about this topic and i do belief I can write tons of content on the subject. so that's a good thing of course.
Also I am not a person who gives up so I did decide to move on with what I started and just try to make the best of it.
Now the question is...
Do you think I could work a site in self help that does not sell an actual ' own' product, but that does contain helpful and unique content on well chosen keywords?
The keywords I want to target are not too many but I do like to write articles on many different self improvement topics (of course based on good traffic potential keywords)
I like to generate traffic and monitize that traffic. So I thought if I can make good content, good keywords and a good site.. I might get good traffic... (of course i realise I will need a bunch of good backlinks to archieve this)
However.. I know my questions are a bit all over the place but it's just because I like to explain myself a bit better
so let's say I would be able to generate a good traffic... would it be a HUGE disadvantage that I do not have my own e book or own ' do what you want right now' -guide?? Obviously I discovered that these things also work as validation indication so like ' why should I belief your theory' is much easier if you can point out you have written a book etc.
Are there any other ways of monetizing this niche apart from adsense and amazone? and does adsense even work? Why do I barely see adsense on self help sites?
Or am I gonna find a huge wall because I do not own my own product? It just scares me that it seems nobody within the self development niche is taking the way I thought of myself.. this could be a good thing of course but there is a much bigger chance that the reason for this is simply because it does not work otherwise!

do you know any self help niches that work primary with adsense? ( I know i should not put all my eggs in one basket but for now I am looking where to put my eggs at all haha)

ok I am planning to make an other website on a more narrowed down topic. Obviously I understand adsense might work much better in those cases... But I really dont want to ditch my initial plan. How to safe my first niche site from disaster haha?!

Thank you so much for reading this. Sorry for my unclear style.. i am currently working on my office job and well :rolleyes: all I truly care about is to make money online in future :rolleyes:
#advice #niche #self development #self help
  • Profile picture of the author sziszi555
    Make your first niche site into an authority site and it will be saved from disaster follow through and never stop and all will be good.
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  • Profile picture of the author nenala
    i have read things about this ' authority' site.. but I seem to not understand quit well what is the real difference with a non authority site.. Does it mean that sub-niches are linked from there (that are obviously my own)?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    It might have been better to focus a bit more on a sub topic and narrow down the huge market I chose.. Yes.. I am speaking abut the self development market.
    Yes - you're right: that isn't a niche at all. It's a market, and a huge one.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    i do belief I can write tons of content on the subject. so that's a good thing of course.
    Yes, that always helps. But who's going to read your content? And specifically who will read it if you don't target one small, specific niche?

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    Also I am not a person who gives up
    There's a difference between giving up, and learning and correcting your course of action and direction.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    I did decide to move on with what I started and just try to make the best of it.
    I think this may not have been the best decision? :confused:

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    Do you think I could work a site in self help that does not sell an actual ' own' product, but that does contain helpful and unique content
    Yes, of course. Hundreds (thousands?) of marketers make money in self-development niches without having their own products. As affiliates, for a start.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    on well chosen keywords?
    Why "keywords"? Have you already decided to build a business that depends on Google for its traffic? If your experiences are anything like those of 99% of beginning marketers, the more you concentrate on search engine traffic, the less chance you'll have to build a profitable business. Personally, I always suggest to people that they shouldn't put time and effort into trying to attract SEO traffic, for two main reasons: first, it's very precarious and makes your business Google-dependent, and any business that's Google-dependent is no more than one algorithm-change away from a potential accident (or even a potential disaster), as so many Warriors have been finding out over the last year or two, some of them to their very great cost; secondly, for me, search engine traffic has been uniformly (across every single niche represented in my business) the worst-converting traffic out of everything I've ever tried - search engine visitors to all my websites typically stay the least time, view the fewest pages, opt in the least often and actually buy anything by far the least often. I admit I do get tons of search engine traffic to all my main sites (because high rankings for multiple keywords happen to be a minor side-benefit of the main targeted traffic-generation method I use) but I'd hate to have to make a living just from that traffic. (A look around the forum will quickly show you large numbers of experienced affiliate marketers saying the same - but there are also, of course, a few people selling "SEO services" to newbies who don't like it being pointed out.)

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    I do like to write articles on many different self improvement topics (of course based on good traffic potential keywords)
    You say "of course", but I use article marketing to make my living, and it wouldn't be an "of course" at all, to me. Keywords don't help me much, at all.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    I like to generate traffic and monitize that traffic.
    The important things to know (about articles, in this context) are ...

    (i) Publishing articles just on your own site isn't really a traffic-generation plan at all: all that can ever bring you is some gradual, eventual search-engine traffic that's typically very low-performing, unresponsive and poor quality anyway, and in the overall scheme of things "generally not worth talking about". Using articles for marketing is about taking your content to the places where the targeted traffic you want to attract is already looking/reading/visiting (after publishing it first yourself, to secure the initial indexation-rights, of course);

    (ii) Article marketing isn't about how many articles you have: it's about who reads them (relates to the point above, and to other considerations);

    (iii) "Good content" is content that publishers in your niche, who already have access to the traffic you want to attract, want and choose to share with their own subscribers, readers and visitors (either by publishing it or linking to it). That's a very simple, practical definition of "good content", but I think it's a useful one because it relates directly to how content produces income. Or, to word it the other way round (same thing, really), content that directly produces income is content that publishers in your niche, who already have access to the traffic you want to attract, want and choose to share with their own subscribers, readers and visitors.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    So I thought if I can make good content, good keywords and a good site.. I might get good traffic...
    You won't get the traffic just by publishing them on your own site.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    (of course i realise I will need a bunch of good backlinks to archieve this)
    No - not so at all. All that will give you is search engine traffic. :p

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    so let's say I would be able to generate a good traffic...
    We can say that, but so far you didn't mention a plan to do that.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    would it be a HUGE disadvantage that I do not have my own e book or own ' do what you want right now' -guide??
    No.

    It wouldn't have to be a disadvantage at all, let alone a "huge" one.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    Are there any other ways of monetizing this niche apart from adsense and amazone?
    Yes - ClickBank (and others).

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    Why do I barely see adsense on self help sites?
    AdSense conflicts with affiliate marketing. With AdSense, you get paid (typically tiny amounts of money!) when visitors leave your site by clicking on a link which takes them somewhere else. With affiliate marketing, you want them to stay on your site, and opt in.

    Originally Posted by nenala View Post

    Or am I gonna find a huge wall because I do not own my own product?
    No.

    If I were doing what you want to do, I wouldn't want my own product. I'd want to be an affiliate marketer.

    This might interest you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7962879

    But I also think you need to start from a niche - and you don't have one yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author tdanz
    An authority site means that you understand the different types of people interested in the niche or any topics connected to the niche and create engaging content based on that wider understanding. if you show your site I could give some more specific advice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cobaki
    What you are planning to do is one of the things that (most people here and) I do for a living. We make high quality content for our websites. That is what I do to make my page rank and I think, I am doing well in the business. Well, you should know that one of the things that you should always aim for is content relevance as it is something that is important for Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author nenala
    Alexa- Huge thanks for taking time to answer to me in great detail... You are completely right in what you say. And yes I obviously discovered the huge difference between a market and a niche a bit too late Of course you are also right that it might be better to not keep on going and try to change it into a real niche... however... i do have a bunch of ideas, and I do feel I know something about what people are looking for. my biggest advantage i think is, I am writing about my own experience and can deliver legit information.
    I completely understand what you mean with the articles, and I will use that strategy to publish on other websites where the traffic already exists. Thank you for clearing up that google traffic is not everything at all

    tdanz - thank you for your explanation. Unfortunately my website is not launched yet
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    I completely understand that I just sound like ' yet an other newbee' and this is completely true... however I do have my reasons for grabbing this market like I explained earlier. And because I like to chase my dreams I want to make it happen within this market. I have a lot to learn obviously and I am just on the beginning of my internet journey.
    thank you so much for all tips!
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