Who's In Charge Around Here Anyway?

Don't bother John. It's impossible to help most newbies coming online, because they don't WANT a business... they want a "system" for a quick buck.

I have been in business now for 20 years and as a high level manager for 5. Nothing comes instantly like most people want. As you said John, it takes time and planning all which come with experience.

That is the lure and the curse of the shiny object. Internet marketers have perfected the art of tingling the cords of greed that run through every inexperienced newbie (and even some veteran newbies) and pulling them in all directions.

Of course its all about self-discipline as you put it. But they will not believe that nothing will ever come out of chasing every shiny object, unless and until they indeed learn from their own experiences of chasing after vanity.

And after all is said and done, they'll blame the marketing copy for promising them heaven...until they jump onto the next shiny object! Folly unlimited.

It's a learning process!
We all did it

I thought at our last meeting I was put in charge. :confused:

I agree John. Although, even though people know the "right thing to do," we tend to gravitate toward the seemingly "easy thing to do."

There's a lot of talk and statements within the community of "making money online" and IM, that you can just sit back and watch the cash flow in. That might be true of the people that created the systems, standing on stage telling everyone that they can make a ton of money.

As people have reminded me, create a product or service and work hard at it.

No it's not...

Marketing is a business

Pet hate.... get out your bubble people - you are doing yourselves a massive disservice if you still believe 'Online' in not an integral part of any sensible marketing plan

World class athletes work hard and train for many years
before they are able to monetize their skills. Same with
doctors, lawyers, accountants, musicians, artists of every
type and kind and people in every profession and trade.

Only in the world of marketing will those same people wonder
why they haven't made $100K in their first 6 months.

When the OP (John) says . . .

. . . you can substitute the word, "people", with intellectually challenged, fools, or deadbeats.

There's an intelligence hierarchy within mankind, and if any individual is below a certain level then unfortunately it's akin to attempting to teach a parrot to play the mandolin. The bare facts are that so many just don't want to learn. Those that do want to learn, at a pace and without expecting overnight riches, can lift themselves to greater heights in life.

If they haven't bothered to educate themselves in school or college, it's a reasonable assumption to think that most can't be bothered to educate themselves in life, and subsequently believe solutions will be handed to them on a plate.

You can be dumb but you can also make an effort to learn, and learning starts with knowing how to read, write, and talk well. Master these first, before thinking you can set the internet world on fire with your non-existent business prowess.


Most of the "people" we are talking about are wholly incapable of operating a business as they're likewise incapable of putting any fundamentals into place. They also haven't got a mind to set right, so that's the mindset bit redundant.


You can. But not without having the intelligence and foresight to do so.

Taking a shortcut can mean bypassing traditional methods, implementing innovative ideas, cutting out the middle man, and a host of other ways. Many have done this with huge success, but it's not within the realm or capabilities of the hordes of knuckle-draggers, a large percentage of which inhabit WF.



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Can we really blame them? The majority of products promoted in this niche are always claiming instant and effortless results. Only when people buy those products and complain when the results are not so instant or effortless are they then told that IM is all about hard work and they need to take things seriously.

It's a mixed message people are receiving and it starts with the way products are marketed in this market. It's the vendors creating the problem and setting the unrealistic expectations from the beginning.

so true....it's frustrating to try and make a person see what they should doing..only for them to insult you. It can't be done. They seem happy to be living in their little bubble.


chicken and egg syndrome. The reason marketers peddle get rich sh** to the masses is simply because that what sells. Try and sell reality.

Marketing 101 - find a need - fill it -

i.m 101 B*S* to an embarassing level,sell many.

i do think it's sad to see "mature people running around chasing this crap for years." Education system?

Most newbies want instant gratification, not learn the hard way to building a business...a long term goal, a consistant income. Correction they want the long term income, but not have to deal with building the business that gets you there. Why? Maybe they are in bad situation, and desperate for money now, and they got an email from one of the hundreds of lists they have subscribed to that says they can make money right this minute with the click of a button. Of course, someone is going to provide that for them. I guess you can't really blame them. They found a need, and they are supplying it. Now what they are supplying it with might be in question for some, not all....And yes I'm a newbie....however I've worked on my mindset...work in progress. to start thinking about this as long term business with sustainable income. Mindset is the key.
To answer the original question: I'm in charge.

Good post John Taylor,

Often what appears to be the most thorough but longest distance to a destination works out to be the quickest way to get there.