Working at Your Passion?

10 years ago

You’re not being stupid, this is a phase many of us go through and it’ll pass.

As for motivating you to get back on track with your website, You just need to do it!

What I’d recommend, since you love freelance writing, is to make a very simple, benefit driven website highlighting your services, and either have a link for them to buy your services directly on your website via: Paypal (or drive them to your Fiverr profile).

Then, once you have your website up, start doing everything you can with getting your name out there, put in a referral program, and just hustle hustle hustle.

Then, this time next year, you’ll be able to sit back and be blown away at the little empire you built around your passion, and that you’re now getting paid good money to do with you love and enjoy.

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Michael Shook

10 years ago

A website doe snot have to be about passive income. Nothing wrong with passive income, but your site does not have to be about that. There's no reason you can't have a website about free lance writing or write about your great clients, or places you have traveled where you have been inspired to write.

Don't worry about your website. just get a wordpress blog with a decent theme and don't spend hours tweaking it and you will become even more well known and probably have even more clients from Fiverr.

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Jason Kanigan

10 years ago

Subcontract out the work you don't like.

As far as your passion goes, make sure your passion matches up with a hungry market. "Do what you love and the money will follow" frequently leads to ruin, and often works only when you have a great publicist.

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travlinguy

10 years ago

I think you should go with your passion. I also think you should run as fast as you can from fiverr. That's no place to market your writing. And if your mentor thinks fiverr is a good idea you should run as fast as you can from him too.

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Michael Franklin

10 years ago

jrjohn....

Let me suggest that if you're passionate about freelance writing, that you take some of your time and devote it towards writing ebooks for the Kindle market. There is strong demand for both fiction and nonfiction titles. Best of all, you don't have to spend time on a lot of other tasks that are ancillary to writing. With the Kindle market, you can spend 95% of your time devoted to writing and 5% to everything else. I know many people like you who have made the transition to the Kindle market and they have become very successful and haven't looked back since.

Good Luck!

Michael

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Jon Patrick 10 years ago

One thing to realize is that your own website is the only thing close to a stable platform on the internet. Any site owned and operated by another party may present you a good opportunity to make money now, but it can all change in an instant. Just ask the thousands of eBay sellers who have been put out of business overnight by policy changes there.

When you own a website, nobody can put you out of business unless you're doing something illegal. And the work you do is cumulative - what you build on your domain stays there, waiting for you to build it up further. When your productive phases add up over a period of years, it can translate into a serious website producing serious income.

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Jon
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jbsmith

10 years ago

Being motivated by passion is critical to success...that doesn't mean that you have to be over-the-top loving everything you do...that's never going to be the case. But, working on your website (no matter how much you may hate that particular task) is trivial when you are motivated by how that website will attract the type of customer and add value via your product for service.

Many people are confused about "being passionate" about what you do...to me, I make sure the market I serve and the products/services I offer align with my passion for helping others produce huge results in different areas of their life (4 different niches but with this consistent compass centering them all around my passion).

Making this happen means I have to do a TON of stuff each day - not all of which I like. It means I have to experience setbacks (which nobody likes), but I keep it all within the perspective of achieving the ultimate objective driven by passion.

Does that help?

Jeff

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RuthRNM

10 years ago

Have you considered approaching your freelance writing in a different way so it can become slightly less hands-on? The trouble with selling a service is that we often get stuck trading our time for money, and this doesn't match up to the dream of passive income that so many people want to achieve.

Obviously I don't know where you find your writing work other than on Fiverr, but it could be the case that you could craft your own niche and become the 'go to' writer in that field. As a result, you could raise your prices and free up more of your time. As previous commenters have said, it's difficult to make any serious money on Fiverr unless you really know what you're doing - and whilst I've never used the site to market my own writing, I'd guess that it's practically impossible to make a good living by selling gigs that are as time intensive as writing good content.

You could create PLR and sell the same content several times, or you could create reports for certain types of businesses that you tailor slightly by adding their own branding before handing it over.

Basically, it doesn't have to be a poor earner that you spend hours and hours on with very little reward.

With regards to your website, we all get demotivated from time to time if we're bogged down with the same task. Only you can decide you whether you just need to give yourself a little free time or whether it's just not the right option for you.

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JRJWrites

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan

As far as your passion goes, make sure your passion matches up with a hungry market. "Do what you love and the money will follow" frequently leads to ruin, and often works only when you have a great publicist.

I realize that is true (about the last quote), but I think that the market for my services is hungry. I know that their is a LOT of competition, but as I pick up speed and get more reviews, I'll be able to get way ahead of the competition (hopefully). Thanks for the input!

Originally Posted by JMichaelZ

A website doe snot have to be about passive income. Nothing wrong with passive income, but your site does not have to be about that. There's no reason you can't have a website about free lance writing or write about your great clients, or places you have traveled where you have been inspired to write.

Don't worry about your website. just get a wordpress blog with a decent theme and don't spend hours tweaking it and you will become even more well known and probably have even more clients from Fiverr.

Michael! That's an awesome idea! Thanks a bunch! For that type of blog, do you think it would be alright to use a free blog host, like Blogger or WordPress.com, or should I go in for my own domain?

Originally Posted by travlinguy

I think you should go with your passion. I also think you should run as fast as you can from fiverr. That's no place to market your writing. And if your mentor thinks fiverr is a good idea you should run as fast as you can from him too.

Thanks for the input, but I personally don't see why Fiverr isn't a good place to market my services. Of course, I'll be branching out pretty soon, but I think that for now at least, it's a decent place to start.
P.S. My mentor's awesome. Ain't nobody gonna tell me otherwise!

Originally Posted by Michael Franklin

jrjohn....

Let me suggest that if you're passionate about freelance writing, that you take some of your time and devote it towards writing ebooks for the Kindle market.
Good Luck!

Thanks Michael! I've actually been thinking about that, and have got a rudimentary outline to a fiction story set down. Not anything earth-shattering, but it might be able to do reasonably well. I think I'll start doing some nonfiction serious writing as well, since I am more able in the latter.

Originally Posted by Jon Patrick

One thing to realize is that your own website is the only thing close to a stable platform on the internet.
When your productive phases add up over a period of years, it can translate into a serious website producing serious income.

Best Regards,
Jon

I totally agree with you, especially after hearing from all the other great warriors. I think that I will keep whatever website I have running for right now, maybe add a few pieces of content a week, and let it earn as it is.
Then, I'll take the other Michael's advice and create a blog about my services, and use that!

Originally Posted by jbsmith

Being motivated by passion is critical to success...that doesn't mean that you have to be over-the-top loving everything you do...that's never going to be the case. But, working on your website (no matter how much you may hate that particular task) is trivial when you are motivated by how that website will attract the type of customer and add value via your product for service.

Many people are confused about "being passionate" about what you do...to me, I make sure the market I serve and the products/services I offer align with my passion for helping others produce huge results in different areas of their life (4 different niches but with this consistent compass centering them all around my passion).

Making this happen means I have to do a TON of stuff each day - not all of which I like. It means I have to experience setbacks (which nobody likes), but I keep it all within the perspective of achieving the ultimate objective driven by passion.

Does that help?

Jeff

That helps a ton. That's really motivating, and I like your perspective of achieving the ultimate when driven by passion. I'm still trying to digest the rest of it

Originally Posted by RuthRNM

Have you considered approaching your freelance writing in a different way so it can become slightly less hands-on? The trouble with selling a service is that we often get stuck trading our time for money, and this doesn't match up to the dream of passive income that so many people want to achieve.

Obviously I don't know where you find your writing work other than on Fiverr, but it could be the case that you could craft your own niche and become the 'go to' writer in that field. As a result, you could raise your prices and free up more of your time. As previous commenters have said, it's difficult to make any serious money on Fiverr unless you really know what you're doing - and whilst I've never used the site to market my own writing, I'd guess that it's practically impossible to make a good living by selling gigs that are as time intensive as writing good content.

You could create PLR and sell the same content several times, or you could create reports for certain types of businesses that you tailor slightly by adding their own branding before handing it over.

Basically, it doesn't have to be a poor earner that you spend hours and hours on with very little reward.

With regards to your website, we all get demotivated from time to time if we're bogged down with the same task. Only you can decide you whether you just need to give yourself a little free time or whether it's just not the right option for you.

I don't really need an online living. An extra 10K-15K a year is good enough for me. But yeah, I understand what you mean; people expect a lot less on Fiverr than they do on other freelancing sites.
I like your idea about crafting a niche, becoming a master writer in it, and charging high. That's awesome input, and I think I've got a few ideas...thanks!

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dewayneboyd

10 years ago

If you love writing, man, then just start a simple WordPress blog and write to your heart's content instead of worrying about making a snazzy website. WordPress with no special plugins or themes is all you need to be successful as an article writer (plus getting accepted into AdSense).

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WillMitchell

10 years ago

If you want to make money with an online business, whether you're making websites or freelance writing, there are always going to be times where you don't want to work. You must learn to buckle down and get stuff done.

Passive income isn't a thing, because as you've learned, even building, promoting and maintaining a website is a non-zero amount of work. I'm not saying there's no such thing as automation, but the 4-hour workweek is still four hours long.

While it's absolutely true that you should do what you love, keep in mind that if you're successful, it's because you figured out how to love working hard.

Be results-oriented and find your enjoyment in the fact that you're providing for yourself.

All that being said, you might think that I'm urging you to continue with the website.

I'm not.

I say get off Fiverr and get serious about freelance writing. You deserve more than five dollars an article, and trust me, the jobs are out there.

What's funny is that I'm not a writer and I do launch websites, but I've been around long enough to know there are plenty of freelance writers out there who do very well for themselves.

My last piece of advice?

Read The Well-Fed Writer by Peter Bowerman. It skyrocket your freelance writing career.

Good luck!

- Will

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JRJWrites

10 years ago

Originally Posted by dewayneboyd

If you love writing, man, then just start a simple WordPress blog and write to your heart's content instead of worrying about making a snazzy website. WordPress with no special plugins or themes is all you need to be successful as an article writer (plus getting accepted into AdSense).

That's not really something I go for. True, I probably WILL end up doing exactly that pretty soon (in fact, I'm drawing up some plans right now), but personal blogs and the like simply don't really get noticed because:
A. Nobody really wants to hear about my life, unless it's a terrible one so that they can feel better about themselves.
B. It's not really a niche, and therefore...would Adsense accept it? If so, who would bid on it?

Originally Posted by WillMitchell

If you want to make money with an online business, whether you're making websites or freelance writing, there are always going to be times where you don't want to work. You must learn to buckle down and get stuff done.

Passive income isn't a thing, because as you've learned, even building, promoting and maintaining a website is a non-zero amount of work. I'm not saying there's no such thing as automation, but the 4-hour workweek is still four hours long.

While it's absolutely true that you should do what you love, keep in mind that if you're successful, it's because you figured out how to love working hard.

Be results-oriented and find your enjoyment in the fact that you're providing for yourself.

All that being said, you might think that I'm urging you to continue with the website.

I'm not.

I say get off Fiverr and get serious about freelance writing. You deserve more than five dollars an article, and trust me, the jobs are out there.

What's funny is that I'm not a writer and I do launch websites, but I've been around long enough to know there are plenty of freelance writers out there who do very well for themselves.

My last piece of advice?

Read The Well-Fed Writer by Peter Bowerman. It skyrocket your freelance writing career.

Good luck!

- Will

Thanks a bunch, Will! That's great advice.
First off, I just took a look at the Well-Fed Writer blog, so I can see that he knows what he's talking about. Secondly, WOW! That book sounds awesome...but is there any way I can buy it as a PDF, since I live in India?

I'm a VERY, VERY, VERY result-oriented person. That turns out to be my downfall sometimes; I don't see results and I get bored and try something new. That's one of my number one problems; if I don't see results, I give up easily. Right now, I'm working on coming out of that.

Do you suggest any freelance sites other than Fiverr (oDesk, ELance, etc)? I've applied to many jobs, but nobody ever wants to hire a writer with no hours logged and no real testimonials (other than my Fiverr rating, which doesn't carry much weight).

Or, do you suggest dealing directly with clients? That's something I would love to do (I've already done it for a couple WF members) and it's more lucrative, as Fiverr takes a 20% cut of the profits. Trouble is, I can't really find clients...can you suggest a method that can help me to find clients?

Also, the truth is that I do love working hard. I love sitting down on my beanbag, clearing my mind and writing, writing, writing a few thousand words at a stretch. I've already put in 30+ hours into my website in the last week.

Thanks for your input. Awesome, motivational and helpful.

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dewayneboyd 10 years ago

I don't mean a personal blog about your life. I mean start a website using WordPress blog software, pick one or more topics, and start writing.
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Resale Rights Ninja

10 years ago

Hey if you love writing as a freelancer then that is what you do because it then really isn't work. There are plenty of ways you can make money as a freelance writer. Look at what copywriters charge...

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himanuzo

10 years ago

If you love to become a writing freelancer, you can join few content mills for making money. Then you spend the money that you earn for outsourcing someone to create a website for you. You need a website for maximizing your business.

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JRJWrites

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Resale Rights Ninja

Hey if you love writing as a freelancer then that is what you do because it then really isn't work. There are plenty of ways you can make money as a freelance writer. Look at what copywriters charge...

True. Do you know any copywriting courses I could learn from?

Originally Posted by dewayneboyd

I don't mean a personal blog about your life. I mean start a website using WordPress blog software, pick one or more topics, and start writing.

Yes, but that's also kind of what I'm doing right now. I'll probably end up doing just that some other time, but for right now I'm looking for steady, upfront payment. Thanks!

Originally Posted by himanuzo

If you love to become a writing freelancer, you can join few content mills for making money. Then you spend the money that you earn for outsourcing someone to create a website for you. You need a website for maximizing your business.

Content mills as in Constant Content, Daily Article, etc.? I've tried. Again. And again. And again. It's so fiercely competitive.

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illiptic 10 years ago

Freelance writing, while a great way to make some extra money, is still pretty much a job. You are trading your time for money.

Now there is nothing wrong with that at all, however if doing affiliate marketing, ect is something that you truly are going to do, I would suggest stepping into the mindset of an entrepreneur, and not a freelancer.

I know that sounds a bit ridiculous, and if you think so that is fair....

however,

I have found that there is tremendous power in simply saying to yourself..

"I am an entrepreneur. This is who I am and how I will make an income"

Making a lot of money means that you have to start selling stuff OTHER than your time.....because your time is something that you can never replace.

The goal of an entrepreneur is to achieve cashflow independent of time, and its a completely different place to step into if you have not yet done so.

Just my thoughts.
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