Building A List With an Amazon Review Website

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From what i hear a lot of people build amazon review sites to send visitors right away to amazon. Has anybody tried building a list to capture that traffic that does not convert right away? Any techniques that work well with amazon review sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    I am in the process right now. I will use something like Hybrid connect and place some aweber forms in different places on the site.

    It is a cooking and kitchen site so I will be giving free recipes as the incentive.

    I do not think I will go live with this until I have at least 12 follow up emails ready to go and at least 2 or three products to promote to the list.

    I also plan to send quite a few emails that do not promote anything, just more free recipes and cooking tips and techniques, I will do this to hopefully build a solid reputation with my subscribers

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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      I am in the process right now. I will use something like Hybrid connect and place some aweber forms in different places on the site.

      It is a cooking and kitchen site so I will be giving free recipes as the incentive.

      I do not think I will go live with this until I have at least 12 follow up emails ready to go and at least 2 or three products to promote to the list.

      I also plan to send quite a few emails that do not promote anything, just more free recipes and cooking tips and techniques, I will do this to hopefully build a solid reputation with my subscribers

      al
      Makes sense. So i guess its fairly similar to any other website to make a list... The thing im trying to avoid is distracting the visitors away from my affiliate links. Should I just create an enticing opt in in the header of all my pages and hope to get subscribers? I was also thinking about creating a squeeze page but i want to be scooping up my already existing traffic and not have to create a new funnel of traffic to the squeeze page.

      So maybe just a good free give away opt in box on every page?
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  • Profile picture of the author Liat
    The thing im trying to avoid is distracting the visitors away from my affiliate links.
    couldn't agree more...

    I have good experience with 2 approaches:
    1 - when person is leaving the site there is a pop-up with a buyer guide for the product they have been looking for.

    I personally hate those pop-us - but you can't argue with statistics. The optin rate is pretty good, but the quality of the list various depending on the product... I still don't have intelligent insights to share about this approach

    2 - After a person clicks on the product - it redirects to additional page where I have something interesting to give for optin and they still have the ability to click again on product and leave this page. If they optin - they redirect straight to the merchants page. I don't do double optin and don't ask for their name - only email.
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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by Liat View Post

      couldn't agree more...

      I have good experience with 2 approaches:
      1 - when person is leaving the site there is a pop-up with a buyer guide for the product they have been looking for.

      I personally hate those pop-us - but you can't argue with statistics. The optin rate is pretty good, but the quality of the list various depending on the product... I still don't have intelligent insights to share about this approach

      2 - After a person clicks on the product - it redirects to additional page where I have something interesting to give for optin and they still have the ability to click again on product and leave this page. If they optin - they redirect straight to the merchants page. I don't do double optin and don't ask for their name - only email.

      These are great options, thanks. The only thing with number 2 is its making the experience for the visitor long and cumbersome, they may not want to buy after all that.

      What do you think about a high quality offer box in the header of every page? It might not get as many opt ins but at least wont affect the visitors linking experience.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

        Has anybody tried building a list to capture that traffic that does not convert right away?
        Yes - thousands of people have tried it. It doesn't work all that well for many people, and that's perhaps even one of the reasons why the overall success-rates in internet marketing are so low. It's a fundamental conflict in objectives for the traffic. Either you're primarily trying to build your list, or you're primarily trying to sell Amazon items "off the page". If you try to do both, you detract from each and may well end up with a low opt-in rate and a low conversion-rate, too. It's the worst of both worlds. Some people who try this even go on from that "unfortunate" result to draw the even-more-mistaken conclusion that list-building isn't very helpful for Amazon sales.

        In my experience, the best customers are very often the ones who will opt in but are a little less likely to buy something "off the page" at their first visit. I earn much more by concentrating on those (it took me many months to work this out, across a range of different niches). I think the "key concept" (to the extent that there is one!) is that in order to attract and retain the best customers, you need a site that doesn't look "just like any other marketer's site".

        Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

        The thing im trying to avoid is distracting the visitors away from my affiliate links.
        I look at it completely differently.

        The thing I try to avoid is distracting the visitors away from my opt-in.

        I strongly suspect that looking at it "your way round", in the long run, as it relates to income prospects from the site, is chasing 20% of the potential income (the faster part) and the expense of the other 80% (the slower part).

        Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

        Should I just create an enticing opt in in the header of all my pages and hope to get subscribers?
        I would.

        Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

        What do you think about a high quality offer box in the header of every page?
        I think that's an incomparably inferior idea, and that your testing will quickly prove that (as it has for so many others), if you test it carefully for yourself, using the same traffic-sources, etc.
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        • Profile picture of the author BuyExpiredDomains
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          Yes - thousands of people have tried it. It doesn't work all that well for many people, and that's perhaps even one of the reasons why the overall success-rates in internet marketing are so low. It's a fundamental conflict in objectives for the traffic. Either you're primarily trying to build your list, or you're primarily trying to sell Amazon items "off the page". If you try to do both, you detract from each and end up with a low opt-in rate and a low conversion-rate, too. It's the worst of both worlds. Some people who try this even go on from that "unfortunate" result to draw the even-more-mistaken conclusion that list-building isn't very helpful for Amazon sales.

          In my experience, the best customers are very often the ones who will opt in but are a little less likely to buy something "off the page" at their first visit. I earn much more by concentrating on those (it took me many months to work this out, across a range of different niches). I think the "key concept" (to the extent that there is one!) is that in order to attract and retain the best customers, you need a site that doesn't look "just like any other marketer's site".



          I look at it completely differently.

          The thing I try to avoid is distracting the visitors away from my opt-in.

          I strongly suspect that looking at it "your way round", in the long run, as it relates to income prospects from the site, is chasing 20% of the potential income (the faster part) and the expense of the other 80% (the slower part).



          I would.



          I think that's an incomparably inferior idea, and that your testing will quickly prove that (as it has for so many others), if you try it for yourself.
          To the OP - If Alexa is suggesting something I'd give it a try

          Having someone on your list can pay off exponentially in the long run. You are potentially talking about selling multiple products to a person on your list vs a 2% affiliate commission at Amazon. Don't get me wrong, any income coming in is great especially if you're trying to get the ball rolling. Being able to email someone can be much bigger. You can send other affiliate products, your own products, drive traffic to your other sites, etc.
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          • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
            Originally Posted by BuyExpiredDomains View Post

            To the OP - If Alexa is suggesting something I'd give it a try

            Having someone on your list can pay off exponentially in the long run. You are potentially talking about selling multiple products to a person on your list vs a 2% affiliate commission at Amazon. Don't get me wrong, any income coming in is great especially if you're trying to get the ball rolling. Being able to email someone can be much bigger. You can send other affiliate products, your own products, drive traffic to your other sites, etc.
            The thing is my ball is already rolling and i haven't even started building a list yet. Im at 6.5% commission now with amazon, so I'm trying to figure out a way to build a list without affecting my already working sites.

            My plan is to scale up and continue what I'm doing but I also think its time for a list. I can use my monthly budget to build a list in the same niche with different methods but I would prefer to find a way to capture traffic coming to my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Liat
    Actually I like number 2 option, if you set correctly the second page
    Look, a person has actively clicked on the product purchase link, so they want the product...
    but instead of redirecting to a site you redirect them to the squeeze page.
    On this squeeze page you like "over deliver" by suggesting them some free report or coupon for "our customers only" - this would not be applicable for Amazon, but would be good for other affiliate programs
    I always put "no thank you" or "skip" on this page, so it is really not making the process annoying

    the option of putting the optin on the header.... well... i dont like to give the visitors too many choices ... What do i want them to do ? to buy a product? or to subscribe? if if confuses me - it will confuse them as well
    i want sites with as less distraction as possible. Customers like it too....
    and I want them as soon as possible on merchants site... those sites know much better than I do about selling ... they have statistics and split-tests which I can't perform

    Some of my sites - I do not sell anything on the site. I just do the reviews (personal reviews with lot of images) and sign them for deals and updates.

    Google loves that the site does not have any affiliate links into it

    the sales are done ONLY in emails

    On these sites I have optins all over - at the end of each article, at the "about page", at the side bar, at the header....
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  • Profile picture of the author quickcashstrategy
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    if u have wordpress blog, it's gonna be easy for u to get them join your list using some plugins for free or paid version, it does convince if u focus on one niche!

    anyway, I dnt think such its a good idea if they is too many new products in your niche, but u can bit google and get top on buyer keywords to earn some real cash from amazon aff program, thats what Im doing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Nguyen
    I'm not sure I agree. The concept of building a list, to re-market etc is all well and good but in my limited experience (and maybe I was targeting a single product), I don't think it works well.

    I built this site in early 2009 Quinny Zapp Pushchair - Xtra Stroller Review | Compare Prices Online and had a drop down optin form which gave away an extended report on the product. Can't remember the exact opt in figures but I did get clicks from the emails straight to the product. I never did make a sale from that. My experience is limited with optins but think of it like this:

    Retail market: Unless your a big brand like walmart, sears, and any other big department store, having an optin in page and emails which are just links to the product (when you send the emails) is just going to annoy people. They will opt in out of curiosity to view the report but after you start sending email offers when you're not even the main source, then you'll just get unsubscribed. If your a one man band tring to market retail products, you won't have the credibility as the big boys.

    MMO: Works perfect for this niche as the subs will be motivated and won't care if you're a one man band.

    List building works but only for the right product and niche. For an amazon review site, probably not.
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  • Profile picture of the author WordpressManiac
    You could offer a buying guide including links back to the reviews on your site. This way you get subscribers and traffic comes back to you. Definetly a list is worth the efford...
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