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How To Sell High Ticket Products On Webinars Without "Faking It Until You Make It" - As A Newbie

by Breadcrumb Blogger
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Hey Warriors, I'm a bit new and was eyeing the perpetual webinar method to start in online marketing. It seems like a good fit for me as I don't get weak in the knees when I have to speak in front of alot people and I can be quite the showman when I need to be.

What bothers me though is in my travels I came across the concept of fake it till you make it and although it seems like just what a new marketer needs to get a foothold, it also seems a bit underhanded and completely dishonest.

My question here is, how do you folks view this concept and its application to marketing? And do you think its a path a newbie should attempt even though they are outright lying about their accomplishments on the webinar in order to sell a product for a high ticket price?
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Why do you need to fake anything?

    Why do you need to promote stuff
    that requires you to be a fake?
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    • Profile picture of the author Breadcrumb Blogger
      Originally Posted by David Raybould View Post

      Why do you need to fake anything?

      Why do you need to promote stuff
      that requires you to be a fake?
      You do understand that I'm asking because I felt that having to fake it seems like the wrong way to do it right?

      I'm asking this to the open forum because I see so many people still saying fake it till you make it and I'm wondering why.

      If there was a resounding negative stigma attached to this then I would also assume that they wouldn't be saying it still but they are.

      So in my opinion, it seems more like a don't ask don't tell kinda thing rather than any kind of moral code.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    And you do know "outright lying" in
    your claims about what a product can and
    can't do is illegal, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Max Anderson
    Never, again NEVER! Fake it till you make it!

    This will sooner or later blow up into your face...

    Selling higher ticket products is the same process as selling lower ticket products.

    The difference lies in the audience!
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  • Profile picture of the author stoltingmediagroup
    The "Fake it till you make it" concept was never intended to be used in order to "lie" to your clients about your accomplishment etc.

    The concept was more meant to be used as a confidence booster (positive self talk, etc) so that the confidence produces success.

    For example: You are a one man operation, and a corporate client approaches you and asks if you can build their organization a thousand page website with all the latest gizmos.

    Instead of saying, uhmm. well... I dont think I can do that.....
    You say, "YES!, of course we can do that for you!"
    (Even though you never did such a large project yet).

    From there you make sure to get it done properly, and there you have it, you've faked it,
    made big money, (but delivered as promised.)

    See? there's a difference.
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    • Profile picture of the author Breadcrumb Blogger
      Originally Posted by stoltingmediagroup View Post

      The "Fake it till you make it" concept was never intended to be used in order to "lie" to your clients about your accomplishment etc.

      The concept was more meant to be used as a confidence booster (positive self talk, etc) so that the confidence produces success.

      For example: You are a one man operation, and a corporate client approaches you and asks if you can build their organization a thousand page website with all the latest gizmos.

      Instead of saying, uhmm. well... I dont think I can do that.....
      You say, "YES!, of course we can do that for you!"
      (Even though you never did such a large project yet).

      From there you make sure to get it done properly, and there you have it, you've faked it,
      made big money, (but delivered as promised.)

      See? there's a difference.
      Thank you, yes I do. It seems the previous poster above you thought I was looking for a reason to justify me lying to an audience when I was looking for more of a clarification on that whole phrase and its application to marketing. Thought I was pretty clear on that though...hmm...
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      • Profile picture of the author ElijahM
        Unfortunately, there is a lot of that going around. I didn't interpret what you were saying to imply that you were planning on doing it yourself, more that you were just interested in other's general opinion. In my opinion, the "fake it till you make it" folks are so busy "faking it" that they never ever actually "make it." The shame of it is they can take other's hopes and inspirations down with them and that's the saddest part of it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidkings
    Originally Posted by Breadcrumb Blogger View Post

    Hey Warriors, I'm a bit new and was eyeing the perpetual webinar method to start in online marketing. It seems like a good fit for me as I don't get weak in the knees when I have to speak in front of alot people and I can be quite the showman when I need to be.

    What bothers me though is in my travels I came across the concept of fake it till you make it and although it seems like just what a new marketer needs to get a foothold, it also seems a bit underhanded and completely dishonest.

    My question here is, how do you folks view this concept and its application to marketing? And do you think its a path a newbie should attempt even though they are outright lying about their accomplishments on the webinar in order to sell a product for a high ticket price?
    This will end up catching you out eventually, as when your reputation spreads, you will get caught out in the end.

    Do things the truthful way, and long term you will do better. or do you want your trust to be affected ?
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    No need to fake it. Lying/misrepresenting not only will kill your business but the karma consequences can be quite harsh. People don't need to find out the hard way.

    Just offer REAL value, work hard to get the word out, and GO OVER AND BEYOND the call of duty and you'll be fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author Breadcrumb Blogger
    Just in case I was being too obscure in the opening post, I wasn't looking to lie to anyone about my accomplishments, I was curious as to why "Fake it till you make it" was constantly being shouted from the rooftop of almost every blogger and marketers "home" I've come across..well a good amount of them anyway.

    I understand very well the concept of value in marketing. What I didn't get was why they support a marketer ESPECIALLY a newbie to lie their way in..when even I saw how it could go BOOM in their face sooner or later.

    The use of the phrase has been clarified to me, It's more about self confidence than it is about accomplishment and in that frame it makes sense and is a very cool strategy.
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