anyone does forex here?

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Hi guys!Just want to ask if anyone here trades forex?maybe you can share your experience and some tips with us.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
    I work on forex daily, whats your questions?
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  • Profile picture of the author drr
    I've done forex for quite a while. Starting off on a demo account is a good idea, or go with a micro account where you can trade 10c per pip. This gets you to trade live with real life forex issues like slippage without worrying about material losses.

    Forex trading is a great way to make a living once you're good at it imho.
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    • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
      Originally Posted by drr View Post

      I've done forex for quite a while. Starting off on a demo account is a good idea, or go with a micro account where you can trade 10c per pip. This gets you to trade live with real life forex issues like slippage without worrying about material losses.

      Forex trading is a great way to make a living once you're good at it imho.
      Thanks for your advice.I am now using a demo with gdmfx to practice my skills and test their platform.I also got that advice to use micro lots once I go live.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    wrong question.

    Anyone make consistent profits in forex?
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMI
      I gave it a try. My method worked well in demo and then blew up when used live. I was using FinFX for my broker.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperKC
    Forex is just one of the worlds many financial games/schemes/scams.. whatever you want to call it.. its not a job or method of making money, its not a business and there are no systems, techniques or otherwise that will give you a sure win. When you get a 'win' its because someone else had a big loss and at the end of the day your either going to get lucky and make a few bucks or like any gambler in a casino -- go no broke.. but with no actual 'business' being done behind the curtain there is no real wealth being created.. and such.. just another financial scheme like a stock that pays no dividends.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Hi. I do a demo account for more than two months now. I have not decided yet as when to begin trading live. Hope we can change ideas and tips about Forex trading to learn more about this matter. Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author fxmaui92
        I've traded forex for years. It's a roller coaster of a mental game until you learn proper discipline. Consistently following rules to a plan is the key - no matter if you are a technical trader or fundamental trader. Having a plan and sticking to it WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT will go a long way to being profitable. That's the best advice I can give you!
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        • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
          Originally Posted by fxmaui92 View Post

          I've traded forex for years. It's a roller coaster of a mental game until you learn proper discipline. Consistently following rules to a plan is the key - no matter if you are a technical trader or fundamental trader. Having a plan and sticking to it WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT will go a long way to being profitable. That's the best advice I can give you!
          Thanks for this advice. It is noted with big thanks. Cheers. I hope i can also make my own trading plan and strategy that really works.
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        • Profile picture of the author dotdash
          Originally Posted by fxmaui92 View Post

          I've traded forex for years. It's a roller coaster of a mental game until you learn proper discipline. Consistently following rules to a plan is the key - no matter if you are a technical trader or fundamental trader. Having a plan and sticking to it WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT will go a long way to being profitable. That's the best advice I can give you!
          +1

          Find a method that works for you, demo it until you see consistent result, go live with a small amount until you see consistent results then take it from there.

          It's not quick and definitely not easy so expect to spend a few years and an extensive psychological journey. It's well worth it though
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          • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
            Originally Posted by dotdash View Post

            +1

            Find a method that works for you, demo it until you see consistent result, go live with a small amount until you see consistent results then take it from there.

            It's not quick and definitely not easy so expect to spend a few years and an extensive psychological journey. It's well worth it though
            Very good suggestion. This is exactly what I am doing until now. Except those things, live trading is the one that I haven't tried yet. But looking forward to do the actual trading soon.
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        • Profile picture of the author gerski
          Originally Posted by fxmaui92 View Post

          I've traded forex for years. It's a roller coaster of a mental game until you learn proper discipline. Consistently following rules to a plan is the key - no matter if you are a technical trader or fundamental trader. Having a plan and sticking to it WITH PROPER RISK MANAGEMENT will go a long way to being profitable. That's the best advice I can give you!
          Very nice advice,well said.I agree that in forex trading discipline is really important otherwise we will not stay long in this field.We had learned the importance of risk management and money management but learning is not that at all the strict implementation of what we learned and apply it in our trading is the most important in order to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author xegen
    Everyone wants to make money on forex))) But for that would be to trade forex can analyze wounds.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by xegen View Post

      Everyone wants to make money on forex))) But for that would be to trade forex can analyze wounds.
      Forex trading is one of the easiest and legit way to earn money online. But you must have sufficient knowledge, skills, training and good timing to have a good trading day. Otherwise, you will lose your money.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    LOL

    Traders at the bank making $3m+ per year might disagree with you.

    Not a business....?????? what next? Playing tennis or acting isn't any money in it?

    Forex is just one of the worlds many financial games/schemes/scams.. whatever you want to call it.. its not a job or method of making money, its not a business and there are no systems, techniques or otherwise that will give you a sure win. When you get a 'win' its because someone else had a big loss and at the end of the day your either going to get lucky and make a few bucks or like any gambler in a casino -- go no broke.. but with no actual 'business' being done behind the curtain there is no real wealth being created.. and such.. just another financial scheme like a stock that pays no dividends.
    You mean a stock like TSLA? oh..........ok.

    You have just made a post about your "opinion" your belief. Not one fact in it.
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    • Profile picture of the author SuperKC
      Haha.. bankers making $3 million a year.. like the ones we just bailed out for billions of dollars because they sold bad financial products? Where does all that cash come from.. those profits.. its not dividend from a company..its fake invisible money man with NO economic value, aka.. financial game One winner to every loser.. gambling. The reasons large financial banks do well, when and if they do forex, is because they collaborate when they trade and pull $$ out of peoples pockets like yourself. When traders move in groups it manipulates the markets and manipulates all of your little 'software programs' to their whim. Its just a game man... if your going to INVEST money into something do it in something real.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    o.p id you seriously love trading try and get a job at a bank. Do not waste your time don't do it from home. You'll regret it.
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  • Profile picture of the author drr
    A lot of people think IM is a waste of time. Not true. Similarly, writing off forex trading just because you suck at it is plain silly. There are guys who get paid millions to trade forex at banks and hedge funds. Thing is, they use pretty much the same free indicators as the rest of us - only they observe proper money management. So, 8 out of ten trades win, and the 2 are stopped out at a moderate loss. That's how forex works - it can never be 100% because the markets just wont oblige.

    For those of you who try it, try using the following indicators:

    1. Bollinger bands
    2. CCI
    3. AC
    4. iMacD (not MACD)

    People who are willing to spend a while learning can make a pretty strong success forex trading. I know because I do it every day. I hold long term positions and scalp too. People who just dabble, or plug in some dopey robot and blow their account will always say its a scam.

    In many ways its a better avenue to real profits than IM (imho). If anyone has an open mind and wants more free info on starting forex trading PM me. It's awesome and frankly more exciting than IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      I just came across this Web site about Forex trading for beginners. I do not know if this is an essay or something but I find it really helpful because it boost up my little knowledge about Forex trading. I hope that this will help you too. You can find it here.
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    • Profile picture of the author dotdash
      Originally Posted by drr View Post

      A lot of people think IM is a waste of time. Not true. Similarly, writing off forex trading just because you suck at it is plain silly.
      This is so true. It's a business just as much as anything else and requires a lot of time, education and trial and error. Getting carried away and then into a downward spiral due to strong emotional reactions to what happens to your account is very common.

      You can't have a strong ego or need to be right and your discipline to follow rules and manage risk have to be rock solid.

      There plenty of scams though - mostly people in IM trying to make quick money selling get rich quick robots/signals etc. Just look at clickbank - yes FX is just as scammy as IM or any other money making opportunity.

      It's not the industry at fault it's people selling a dream that doesn't exist and people that keep buying it...
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  • Profile picture of the author IMDESTROYER
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    Originally Posted by rrayne20009 View Post

    Hi guys!Just want to ask if anyone here trades forex?maybe you can share your experience and some tips with us.
    Yes i do here though....find a system and use it. Its the same thing as affilaite markeintg. Their are several ways to make money, choose one and run with it and when you get it to work, choose another.

    PS
    their called strategies not systems. Knowing that will save you allot of guess work.

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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by IMDESTROYER View Post

      Yes i do here though....find a system and use it. Its the same thing as affilaite markeintg. Their are several ways to make money, choose one and run with it and when you get it to work, choose another.

      PS
      their called strategies not systems. Knowing that will save you allot of guess work.

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      May I just ask, why do you have to choose another if you already found a system that really works? Or I just did not understand what you mean here. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce84
    Ok, here is my 2 cents... I been trading since 2007. Stay away from buying into any systems or special magical indicators, they are a waste of money. Learn to trade price action, learn about supply and demand- how to spot these areas where the big money is holding orders, learn the order flow. Trade on a demo for at least 6 months and get consistant profits before you invest a dime of your real money. Then when you do go live, go live with a small amount because the real challenge is your emotions and proper money managment. I presonally blew up 4 accounts before I got this lesson haha. Money managment is key, proper money management takes away much of the emotions.

    NEVER add to a losing trade because you feel you are right and the market will go your direction just because you bought or sold. The market does not care about your or where you placed your trade.

    Make sure you have good R/R you want at least twice the reward to the risk.

    Good luck, its a long and rocky road. You HAVE to have a passion for trading or you will quit. Stick with it and you might just find greatness.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by bryce84 View Post

      Ok, here is my 2 cents... I been trading since 2007. Stay away from buying into any systems or special magical indicators, they are a waste of money. Learn to trade price action, learn about supply and demand- how to spot these areas where the big money is holding orders, learn the order flow. Trade on a demo for at least 6 months and get consistant profits before you invest a dime of your real money. Then when you do go live, go live with a small amount because the real challenge is your emotions and proper money managment. I presonally blew up 4 accounts before I got this lesson haha. Money managment is key, proper money management takes away much of the emotions.

      NEVER add to a losing trade because you feel you are right and the market will go your direction just because you bought or sold. The market does not care about your or where you placed your trade.

      Make sure you have good R/R you want at least twice the reward to the risk.

      Good luck, its a long and rocky road. You HAVE to have a passion for trading or you will quit. Stick with it and you might just find greatness.
      Thanks for sharing. More to go for me because its just been running three weeks since I began doing a demo account. What you said here is noted with big thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce84
    Oh I forgot haha...
    Spot trading I been with Oanda for years and they are pretty good but spreads can get just crazy around news time.

    Options the only broker I would recommend is Nadex
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by bryce84 View Post

      Oh I forgot haha...
      Spot trading I been with Oanda for years and they are pretty good but spreads can get just crazy around news time.

      Options the only broker I would recommend is Nadex
      Thanks for this information. I did check your broker Nadex and it looks promising. I am looking also at GDMFX, introduced by a friend, and doing a demo account with them for more than two weeks now. It looks the same with your broker. Any info would be helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author fxmaui92
    I've used Oanda in the past but have been using ATC brokers now for a while and really like their service and rates.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by fxmaui92 View Post

      I've used Oanda in the past but have been using ATC brokers now for a while and really like their service and rates.
      I got curious about ATC brokers. I thought they are a set or a group of brokers acting as one. So I did ask Google about it. And I found out that ATC is just like brokers GDMFX and Nadex. It also uses MT4 and also offers demo account. I am thinking of trying another demo account with them too.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Forex is scam. It is not an investment. It is all based on luck. I wouldn't touch that type of trading with a 10 ft pole.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by cyberzolo View Post

      Forex is scam. It is not an investment. It is all based on luck. I wouldn't touch that type of trading with a 10 ft pole.
      Hello cyberzolo. I am just wondering why you label Forex as scam. Did you do Forex trading before and you got swindle by a broker or other trader? But you said you would not touch this type of trading, so I guess you have not try it before. According to Investopedia, Forex is the world's biggest financial market. It is actually a kind of investment. But like all investments, investing in the Forex market involves risk. So you need to study and work hard to learn more about this matter to minimize the risk.
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      • Profile picture of the author drr
        Originally Posted by leebelisar View Post

        Hello cyberzolo. I am just wondering why you label Forex as scam. Did you do Forex trading before and you got swindle by a broker or other trader? But you said you would not touch this type of trading, so I guess you have not try it before. According to Investopedia, Forex is the world's biggest financial market. It is actually a kind of investment. But like all investments, investing in the Forex market involves risk. So you need to study and work hard to learn more about this matter to minimize the risk.
        I tend to agree with your analysis leebelisar.

        Cyberzolo, like leebelisar has already mentioned, you suggest you've never traded forex so I'm curious as to what makes you qualified to brand it as a scam? I'm not for a second suggesting people don't lose capital, but ironically these tend to be the people who look at the forex much in the same way as IM...ie buy into some hyped up system or robot, fiddle and faff around for maybe 3 days, see poor results and give up. Then label it a scam. Ridiculous. I tried ice skating last friday for the first time, but fell over both consistently and comically. Does that mean ice skating is a scam, or am I just crap at it? I think you'll find it's the latter.

        The forex conducts about $4 trillion of trades a day (that's not a typo). You have multiple groups and stakeholders all trading currency with different objectives. Governments, big businesses, hedge funds all use the forex. This creates sensational volatility, which when you know how to manipulate can lead to very high probability trading opportunities.

        People who take the time to LEARN rather than rant will discover that forex currencies observe certain price patterns which happen over and over again. Once a trader understands these patterns/trends, it's a case of timing the markets correctly and practicing strict money management. Do this, and you'll be able to scrounge out 7/10 winning trades, and grow your balance.
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        • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
          Originally Posted by drr View Post

          I tend to agree with your analysis leebelisar.

          Cyberzolo, like leebelisar has already mentioned, you suggest you've never traded forex so I'm curious as to what makes you qualified to brand it as a scam? I'm not for a second suggesting people don't lose capital, but ironically these tend to be the people who look at the forex much in the same way as IM...ie buy into some hyped up system or robot, fiddle and faff around for maybe 3 days, see poor results and give up. Then label it a scam. Ridiculous. I tried ice skating last friday for the first time, but fell over both consistently and comically. Does that mean ice skating is a scam, or am I just crap at it? I think you'll find it's the latter.

          The forex conducts about $4 trillion of trades a day (that's not a typo). You have multiple groups and stakeholders all trading currency with different objectives. Governments, big businesses, hedge funds all use the forex. This creates sensational volatility, which when you know how to manipulate can lead to very high probability trading opportunities.

          People who take the time to LEARN rather than rant will discover that forex currencies observe certain price patterns which happen over and over again. Once a trader understands these patterns/trends, it's a case of timing the markets correctly and practicing strict money management. Do this, and you'll be able to scrounge out 7/10 winning trades, and grow your balance.
          I hope you do well in your ice skating next time my friend. Going back to the issue, Forex is think is the biggest type of investment because it is global. Various traders across the globe do Forex trading. This investment is indeed risky and a bit hard esp to those people who are fresh starters. So that is why sufficient training and studying about this matter is very crucial to do. It is a must to acquire sufficient knowledge, skills, right timing and the likes to succeed in this investment.
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          Originally Posted by drr View Post

          I tend to agree with your analysis leebelisar.

          Cyberzolo, like leebelisar has already mentioned, you suggest you've never traded forex so I'm curious as to what makes you qualified to brand it as a scam? I'm not for a second suggesting people don't lose capital, but ironically these tend to be the people who look at the forex much in the same way as IM...ie buy into some hyped up system or robot, fiddle and faff around for maybe 3 days, see poor results and give up. Then label it a scam. Ridiculous. I tried ice skating last friday for the first time, but fell over both consistently and comically. Does that mean ice skating is a scam, or am I just crap at it? I think you'll find it's the latter.

          The forex conducts about $4 trillion of trades a day (that's not a typo). You have multiple groups and stakeholders all trading currency with different objectives. Governments, big businesses, hedge funds all use the forex. This creates sensational volatility, which when you know how to manipulate can lead to very high probability trading opportunities.

          People who take the time to LEARN rather than rant will discover that forex currencies observe certain price patterns which happen over and over again. Once a trader understands these patterns/trends, it's a case of timing the markets correctly and practicing strict money management. Do this, and you'll be able to scrounge out 7/10 winning trades, and grow your balance.
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          Good advice.
          Like you I have traded for years and love it.
          I love to trade on "cyclic spikes" (when a currency suddenly goes high or low).
          Love it as they usually go away from the spike at least half or more.

          If people follow what you say above and don't go crazy with bids ...
          ie; keep at least 250% to 300% margin they should be able to wait
          on the next cycle.
          I also belong to a broker which allows "hedging" so worst case is I bid a
          couple in the opposite direction (about 1/2) and then wait for the cycle to go
          one way or the other and close the negative ones.

          NO it is not gambling. It is more like Chess.
          The more you play, the better you get.

          I make very good money with Forex.

          Seasons Greetings To All
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          • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
            Originally Posted by Careygee View Post

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            Good advice.
            Like you I have traded for years and love it.
            I love to trade on "cyclic spikes" (when a currency suddenly goes high or low).
            Love it as they usually go away from the spike at least half or more.

            If people follow what you say above and don't go crazy with bids ...
            ie; keep at least 250% to 300% margin they should be able to wait
            on the next cycle.
            I also belong to a broker which allows "hedging" so worst case is I bid a
            couple in the opposite direction (about 1/2) and then wait for the cycle to go
            one way or the other and close the negative ones.

            NO it is not gambling. It is more like Chess.
            The more you play, the better you get.

            I make very good money with Forex.

            Seasons Greetings To All
            Carey
            Thats the worst possible way to trade and I have learned the hard way. Yes, eventually the price will go back to where you are, but it may take weeks or months and during this time that trade will lower your options to make money on other trades in between. Isn't it better to use a 20-30 pip stop loss and instead of waiting for a trade to turn in 3 months to make 2% profit, to give up on a bad trade right away and use those 3 months to make 10% profit instead? Think about it...I learned the hard way, but closing losing trades in forex is the only way to make long term profit. Newbies and most retailers never close bad trades and that mentality is what makes most people to lose money. The best trades I had were after I gave up on a bad trade and took the loss.
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            • Profile picture of the author Careygee
              Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

              Thats the worst possible way to trade and I have learned the hard way. Yes, eventually the price will go back to where you are, but it may take weeks or months and during this time that trade will lower your options to make money on other trades in between. Isn't it better to use a 20-30 pip stop loss and instead of waiting for a trade to turn in 3 months to make 2% profit, to give up on a bad trade right away and use those 3 months to make 10% profit instead? Think about it...I learned the hard way, but closing losing trades in forex is the only way to make long term profit. Newbies and most retailers never close bad trades and that mentality is what makes most people to lose money. The best trades I had were after I gave up on a bad trade and took the loss.
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              Absolutely agree with you. (If the scenario you describe applied to me)

              I very seldom hold for over four hours.
              By then I can watch my 4 hour charts and make a decision.

              I watch 4 different currencies at one time that coincide with the curency
              I am trading. (They are opposites and positives of my currency)

              Trust me, with small bids and a good account balance and keeping my "Free Margin" at 600% of better, I can afford to wait and still trade on up or down trends as I wait.
              Remember that my broker allows hedges (Opposite Bids)
              So I save at least 1/2 of my bad bids (I have a get out strategy)
              or sometimes I hold them if the trend is looking to be a short cycle.

              I average between $80 to $140 a day doing this.
              You just have to have $2500 or better to survive if you keep Free Margins low.

              I am not hoggish anymore (See below) so even $20 dollar days are
              good in a "Sideways" Market (Not moving much up or down)

              So yes you are right to give good advice as above to beginners.

              But ..... I have been through the trenches and had many bad days since I
              began over three years ago.
              Worst bad day about 2 years ago Minus $2400
              I got hoggish and pushed my Free Margin (Bad Idea)

              Best good days ... 2 days in a row at Plus $800 EACH.
              Just happened to be able to ride a big trend.
              Rights bids at the right time.

              I learn lessons of each day I trade.
              I have also learned to use one or two indicators which take out the emotion.
              I pay attention to them. If unsure of them or me ...
              I just don't trade until I am more confident.

              Thanks for your post and comments
              Carey
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            • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
              Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

              Think about it...I learned the hard way, but closing losing trades in forex is the only way to make long term profit. Newbies and most retailers never close bad trades and that mentality is what makes most people to lose money. The best trades I had were after I gave up on a bad trade and took the loss.
              That definitely a good advice,thanks for sharing it.For this reason,new traders should consider adding stop-loss instructions to all open positions.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    it's not a scam but:

    Many brokers are unregulated and play games with prices, etc
    Forex is very hard to trade. The banks know the news before retail
    Most people a day trading.
    Most people have no clue about risk. i,e trading 50X leverage
    Most people enter forex thinking it's gt rich quick..gamble away,lose their account, then label it a scam. Next project.
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    • Profile picture of the author Maktop
      forex trading is a real and legitimate business you can do online to make lot of money. but there is a word of caution; it is not a get rich quick scheme, you must be really good at it in and out, if not you will go bankrupt before you realize it.
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      • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
        Originally Posted by Maktop View Post

        forex trading is a real and legitimate business you can do online to make lot of money. but there is a word of caution; it is not a get rich quick scheme, you must be really good at it in and out, if not you will go bankrupt before you realize it.
        Yup, caution is the word. It is a process. You won't get money neither get rich in just two to five days. You have to work hard for it. You have to study it. And you need lot of patience and discipline to do this.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      it's not a scam but:

      Many brokers are unregulated and play games with prices, etc
      Forex is very hard to trade. The banks know the news before retail
      Most people a day trading.
      Most people have no clue about risk. i,e trading 50X leverage
      Most people enter forex thinking it's gt rich quick..gamble away,lose their account, then label it a scam. Next project.
      Definitely not a scam. Forex trading is actually hard at first per my experience as a new trader. But you'll get through it in the long run side by side of your hard effort to know and study Forex very well.
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    As someone who invests in equities, as others have said, it's not a scam, but there are a lot of scammers in the field. Forex is very volatile (especially if you're trading with leverage) and I'll tell you straight up that there are a lot of people that know a lot more than most people in the field, and it would take years of experience to start making consistent profits in the field. Even aside from outright scams (and there are a few in the Forex field) you can lose a LOT of money if you're not careful, and emotions run high when you're day trading, which is why very few people can be successful with it long term without a lot of luck (if any).
    Why not get started investing in stocks or put your money in an index fund with low fees where you don't have to check your stocks everyday and start earning some good returns without losing sleep (and losing money when emotion gets involved).
    Good luck, and PM me if you need any help,
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by jungl View Post

      As someone who invests in equities, as others have said, it's not a scam, but there are a lot of scammers in the field. Forex is very volatile (especially if you're trading with leverage) and I'll tell you straight up that there are a lot of people that know a lot more than most people in the field, and it would take years of experience to start making consistent profits in the field. Even aside from outright scams (and there are a few in the Forex field) you can lose a LOT of money if you're not careful, and emotions run high when you're day trading, which is why very few people can be successful with it long term without a lot of luck (if any).
      Why not get started investing in stocks or put your money in an index fund with low fees where you don't have to check your stocks everyday and start earning some good returns without losing sleep (and losing money when emotion gets involved).
      Good luck, and PM me if you need any help,
      Alex.
      Scams are anywhere and everywhere. And Forex is not exempted. So it is very crucial to do background and reputation checks to a broker you are interested to sign up with.
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    • Profile picture of the author MaxHeadroom78
      One tip, don't just check out the traders credentials, check out reviews by users. Real reviews.... not the ones from their site. I was looking into it, but then found reviews saying that the system was great, but impossible to pull your money out of.
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      • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
        Originally Posted by MaxHeadroom78 View Post

        One tip, don't just check out the traders credentials, check out reviews by users. Real reviews.... not the ones from their site. I was looking into it, but then found reviews saying that the system was great, but impossible to pull your money out of.
        Actually that should be the first thing to do when selecting a broker. And checking the credentials and reputations should not be based on the Web site of that broker as it might be biased what were written there. Indeed it is great to check outside the Web site like for example in Forex forums like this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    yeah good....then you lose it over 6 months instead of 10 days. There's no edge, especially for retail. But you don't want to listen.

    Carry on, the brokers need your money


    Yup, caution is the word. It is a process. You won't get money neither get rich in just two to five days. You have to work hard for it. You have to study it. And you need lot of patience and discipline to do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
    Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

    bull sh**

    let's see if you are still in it 3 years from now
    I do understand you and I don't blame you if you see forex like that,as many says almost 96% of them failed but forex is about knowledge and skills,it's very risky as well so I don't wanna rush that process of learning.I think,many fails because of lack of proper preparation on forex.I am newbie and I am just on first stage of learning forex trading.
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  • Profile picture of the author aaaa33030
    With day trading when made a profit for the day, instead of using your profits to trade again within that same day, instead withdraw your profits and then start over again the next day
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    • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
      Originally Posted by aaaa33030 View Post

      With day trading when made a profit for the day, instead of using your profits to trade again within that same day, instead withdraw your profits and then start over again the next day
      Oh,that's a very clever advice.I think in this way,you'll minimize your risk of losing to many.But sometimes,greed gets on the way and you want to earn more and I think that's one reasons many fails because they can't control their emotions.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by aaaa33030 View Post

      With day trading when made a profit for the day, instead of using your profits to trade again within that same day, instead withdraw your profits and then start over again the next day
      I could try this one, day trading, when I begin to trade live. Thanks for the tips.
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    • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
      My best advice is trade end of day and not intra day and also learn to read the price action on the chart, its all you need.

      The indicators are stupid, they are just price passed through some silly formula.

      There's only 2 ways to enter a trade, either a breakout or a retracement, learn to identify them and you are on your way.

      Japanese candlesticks are excellent because they are price action based.

      Another very important thing is to only risk 1% of your capital on each trade, some people go a bit higher but its not recommended.
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      • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
        Originally Posted by mootonandy View Post

        My best advice is trade end of day and not intra day and also learn to read the price action on the chart, its all you need.

        The indicators are stupid, they are just price passed through some silly formula.

        There's only 2 ways to enter a trade, either a breakout or a retracement, learn to identify them and you are on your way.

        Japanese candlesticks are excellent because they are price action based.

        Another very important thing is to only risk 1% of your capital on each trade, some people go a bit higher but its not recommended.
        Thanks for sharing your advice.What can you advice newbies to trade short-term or long-term?What is more profitable in the two and what is more advisable to use?
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        • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
          Originally Posted by rrayne20009 View Post

          Thanks for sharing your advice.What can you advice newbies to trade short-term or long-term?What is more profitable in the two and what is more advisable to use?
          If by short term you mean day trading then my advice is avoid it, there's not many people who can handle the emotional roller coaster of it.
          Trading end of day is much much easier, its like chalk and cheese.

          If you can get your head round the concept of each price bar representing a battle between buyers and sellers then you are half way there.
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          • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
            Originally Posted by mootonandy View Post

            If by short term you mean day trading then my advice is avoid it, there's not many people who can handle the emotional roller coaster of it.
            Trading end of day is much much easier, its like chalk and cheese.

            If you can get your head round the concept of each price bar representing a battle between buyers and sellers then you are half way there.
            Hi!Thanks for your advice.Your right.While some new traders opt to go with short-term(scalping),Long-term trading can be less time consuming since you don't have to watch the live market like short-term trading that requires a lot more attention to the market on a continuous basis.It really increases stress when you deal with lots of emotions.
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        • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
          Originally Posted by rrayne20009 View Post

          Thanks for sharing your advice.What can you advice newbies to trade short-term or long-term?What is more profitable in the two and what is more advisable to use?
          If by short term you mean day trading then my advice is avoid it, there's not many people who can handle the emotional roller coaster of it.
          Trading end of day is much much easier, its like chalk and cheese.

          If you can get your head round the concept of each price bar representing a battle between buyers and sellers then you are half way there.
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      • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
        Originally Posted by mootonandy View Post

        My best advice is trade end of day and not intra day and also learn to read the price action on the chart, its all you need.

        The indicators are stupid, they are just price passed through some silly formula.

        There's only 2 ways to enter a trade, either a breakout or a retracement, learn to identify them and you are on your way.

        Japanese candlesticks are excellent because they are price action based.

        Another very important thing is to only risk 1% of your capital on each trade, some people go a bit higher but its not recommended.
        Noted with big thanks. Thank you for sharing. Regarding reading the price action on the chart, so you mean that you have to be online the whole time to check it? I mean you should have constant monitoring of the changes.
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    • Profile picture of the author rrayne20009
      Originally Posted by judchuks View Post

      If you want to trade forex check with the platform you want to use. They often provide tips that can help you become a winner. I use Betonmarkets.
      thanks for sharing your advice and already heard about betonmarkets(binary.com) but I am already having a demo with gdmfx.
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      • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
        Originally Posted by rrayne20009 View Post

        thanks for sharing your advice and already heard about betonmarkets(binary.com) but I am already having a demo with gdmfx.
        Good to know that. I've been also doing a demo account with the same broker running three weeks now. How about you?
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    Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

    bull sh**

    let's see if you are still in it 3 years from now
    I'm in it for over 5 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
    The only way to be successful in forex is to forget about all the useless indicators, lines and whatever crap all retail is using. Banks and the big players don't give a f*** about the lines retailers draw on their charts. The way to succeed is to trade price action and be on the other side of retail. Just like now, a certain pair keeps going up and 75% of the retail world is short...and all you read on forums is: "Now it has to turn already", "Few more pips and it will go down", etc...no, it won't go down...and I will keep trading it on the way up until all retailers lose all their money on this pair. The easiest trades on forex are the ones, where retailers say "There is no way this will go higher/lower", then it definitely will.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

      The only way to be successful in forex is to forget about all the useless indicators, lines and whatever crap all retail is using. Banks and the big players don't give a f*** about the lines retailers draw on their charts. The way to succeed is to trade price action and be on the other side of retail. Just like now, a certain pair keeps going up and 75% of the retail world is short...and all you read on forums is: "Now it has to turn already", "Few more pips and it will go down", etc...no, it won't go down...and I will keep trading it on the way up until all retailers lose all their money on this pair. The easiest trades on forex are the ones, where retailers say "There is no way this will go higher/lower", then it definitely will.
      Is this so? Maybe we can just use those as guides? At least we have some ideas about the market.
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  • Profile picture of the author fred67
    Have you delved into Forex daily trading through a video course?
    If not, there's an image link on the Readi-bay site in my signature that gives away a free 17 video complete module. Might be worth a look
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by fred67 View Post

      Have you delved into Forex daily trading through a video course?
      If not, there's an image link on the Readi-bay site in my signature that gives away a free 17 video complete module. Might be worth a look
      Will take a look of those video course. Thank you for sharing.
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      Originally Posted by fred67 View Post

      Have you delved into Forex daily trading through a video course?
      If not, there's an image link on the Readi-bay site in my signature that gives away a free 17 video complete module. Might be worth a look
      Thanks for sharing .I might give it a time to check it out.With forex there are lots to learn.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    Talk about chasing your tail....day trading "retail" does not work! Learn the hard way.


    And....is that the life you really want? Sat in front of the screen 7+ hours day?
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      Talk about chasing your tail....day trading "retail" does not work! Learn the hard way.


      And....is that the life you really want? Sat in front of the screen 7+ hours day?
      For me, only day trading works, as its impossible to predict weeks or months into the future. Sure, indicators might work, but just might...as I said, those lines retailers draw, big banks don't really care about them...they push the price whereever they want for whatever reason.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      Talk about chasing your tail....day trading "retail" does not work! Learn the hard way.


      And....is that the life you really want? Sat in front of the screen 7+ hours day?
      Just curious. Why day trading retail doesn't work? You are talking about Forex day trading right? Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    You mean forex not stocks right?

    For me, only day trading works, as its impossible to predict weeks or months into the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      You mean forex not stocks right?
      Forex, of course.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    I have been trading forex successfully for a while now and let me tell you, price action trading is the simplest and most effective way to trade hands down. You dont have to worry about learning all kinds of useless indicators, all you need to know is how to spot key areas in charts and wait for a price action trade setup to form on it. It is actually quite simple if you have the patience and discipline to wait for high probability trade setups.

    As for a broker, I use Oanda and they work great.
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    • Profile picture of the author UW
      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      I think it is all about discipline and patience too. Patience to wait for the right set up and the discipline not to over trade and to cut your losses if the trade move against you. The problem with most traders is that we over trade thinking that we are good once we made some money...that's where we lose more
      Couldn't agree more Gary. That is why something like 98% of forex traders never make any money.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      I have been trading forex successfully for a while now and let me tell you, price action trading is the simplest and most effective way to trade hands down. You dont have to worry about learning all kinds of useless indicators, all you need to know is how to spot key areas in charts and wait for a price action trade setup to form on it. It is actually quite simple if you have the patience and discipline to wait for high probability trade setups.

      As for a broker, I use Oanda and they work great.
      It is great to know that you are doing well in your trading. What you shared were very helpful to new traders, including me. Its noted with big thanks. Thank you for sharing.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by garyt View Post

      I think it is all about discipline and patience too. Patience to wait for the right set up and the discipline not to over trade and to cut your losses if the trade move against you. The problem with most traders is that we over trade thinking that we are good once we made some money...that's where we lose more
      Discipline and patience. I've been reading a lot of Forex posts mentioning those two things as very crucial to succeed in trading. And I admit they are indeed very significant.
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      Originally Posted by UW View Post

      I have been trading forex successfully for a while now and let me tell you, price action trading is the simplest and most effective way to trade hands down. You dont have to worry about learning all kinds of useless indicators, all you need to know is how to spot key areas in charts and wait for a price action trade setup to form on it. It is actually quite simple if you have the patience and discipline to wait for high probability trade setups.

      As for a broker, I use Oanda and they work great.
      Oanda are dealing desk scammers.
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      • Profile picture of the author magneticweb
        mootonandy (post no. 66) has it right when he advises to only risk 1% of your capital on any one trade. And UW (post no.76) is right when he says that 98% of traders never make any money.

        I tried Forex about seven years ago. I read a number of books about it and invested in some expensive software (monthly payments to use it). I took it very seriously even though I was only trading on a demo account. When I started trading with real money I was very cautious and limited my risk according to the amount of my capital.

        I considered myself lucky to escape with a loss of only a couple of hundred pounds (GBP). It was then I realised I had been pursuing an impossible dream, as is anyone who thinks they can make any money at all trading Forex from home.

        Forex is a "zero sum" business. That means that it doesn't produce any wealth at all. If someone makes a lot of money with it that's only because some other poor sod has lost everything he/she had.

        The fact of the matter is that the Forex market is dominated by about 20 or so huge international banks, who manipulate the market for their own profit. Yes, I know all the sellers of Forex products (videos, books, courses, "robots", etc, etc) keep telling us that the Forex market, at $3 trillion or more a day in turnover, is too big to manipulate, but they either lie or repeat someone else's lies.

        If you trade Forex from home with your limited capital you're up against hardened traders, some of whom have years of experience, employed by the big bank on telephone number salaries plus bonuses, and who literally have millions at their disposal.

        The Forex market is extremely volatile, and if it goes against a trade that any such seasoned veteran makes then he can ride it out, even if the market moves against him by a couple of hundred points. But what about you? How much of your hard-earned cash can you afford to risk like that?

        The advice invariably given by so-called Forex experts is to day trade with tight stop-loss levels so that if the market moves against you then at least you only make a small loss. That's fair enough, but it fails to take into account the fact that, when all the indicators say that, for example, the US dollar is set to increase against the Swiss franc, it may still continue to slide downwards for a couple of hundred points before it turns around and goes up.

        This can happen even after an initial upwards movement. If you're on tight stop-loss levels you'll get wiped out even though your forecast was in fact correct over the longer term.

        All the systems and robots in the world can't do anything about that fact.

        For all these reasons you can only afford to trade in Forex if you have several thousand pounds or dollars at the very least that you can afford to risk losing, are content to aim for very modest profits, and can impose enormous self-control over your trading.

        In other words, to regularly risk an awful lot of money to try and earn a little. This isn't a viable way of running a business.

        I know all the sales pages of these Forex systems are colourful and littered with promises of fabulous riches, but the reality is that Forex is responsible for countless bankruptcies, ruining of lives, and ultimately even suicides.

        My advice is to keep well away from it. If you just can't resist the allure then trade only on a demo account where it doesn't matter about losing your fictitious money, and you won't have sleepless nights worrying about your mounting losses.
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        • Profile picture of the author pro4Xinvestor
          Originally Posted by magneticweb View Post

          mootonandy (post no. 66) has it right when he advises to only risk 1% of your capital on any one trade. And UW (post no.76) is right when he says that 98% of traders never make any money.

          I tried Forex about seven years ago. I read a number of books about it and invested in some expensive software (monthly payments to use it). I took it very seriously even though I was only trading on a demo account. When I started trading with real money I was very cautious and limited my risk according to the amount of my capital.

          I considered myself lucky to escape with a loss of only a couple of hundred pounds (GBP). It was then I realised I had been pursuing an impossible dream, as is anyone who thinks they can make any money at all trading Forex from home.

          Forex is a "zero sum" business. That means that it doesn't produce any wealth at all. If someone makes a lot of money with it that's only because some other poor sod has lost everything he/she had.

          The fact of the matter is that the Forex market is dominated by about 20 or so huge international banks, who manipulate the market for their own profit. Yes, I know all the sellers of Forex products (videos, books, courses, "robots", etc, etc) keep telling us that the Forex market, at $3 trillion or more a day in turnover, is too big to manipulate, but they either lie or repeat someone else's lies.

          If you trade Forex from home with your limited capital you're up against hardened traders, some of whom have years of experience, employed by the big bank on telephone number salaries plus bonuses, and who literally have millions at their disposal.

          The Forex market is extremely volatile, and if it goes against a trade that any such seasoned veteran makes then he can ride it out, even if the market moves against him by a couple of hundred points. But what about you? How much of your hard-earned cash can you afford to risk like that?

          The advice invariably given by so-called Forex experts is to day trade with tight stop-loss levels so that if the market moves against you then at least you only make a small loss. That's fair enough, but it fails to take into account the fact that, when all the indicators say that, for example, the US dollar is set to increase against the Swiss franc, it may still continue to slide downwards for a couple of hundred points before it turns around and goes up.

          This can happen even after an initial upwards movement. If you're on tight stop-loss levels you'll get wiped out even though your forecast was in fact correct over the longer term.

          All the systems and robots in the world can't do anything about that fact.

          For all these reasons you can only afford to trade in Forex if you have several thousand pounds or dollars at the very least that you can afford to risk losing, are content to aim for very modest profits, and can impose enormous self-control over your trading.

          In other words, to regularly risk an awful lot of money to try and earn a little. This isn't a viable way of running a business.

          I know all the sales pages of these Forex systems are colourful and littered with promises of fabulous riches, but the reality is that Forex is responsible for countless bankruptcies, ruining of lives, and ultimately even suicides.

          My advice is to keep well away from it. If you just can't resist the allure then trade only on a demo account where it doesn't matter about losing your fictitious money, and you won't have sleepless nights worrying about your mounting losses.
          Thanks for your post. I've also had a similar experience and have stayed away since. The markets are manipulated so the average person doesn't really have much of a chance. Usually the hope of making quick money allures people and they end up losing everything...it's really a gamble.
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          • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
            Originally Posted by pro4Xinvestor View Post

            Thanks for your post. I've also had a similar experience and have stayed away since. The markets are manipulated so the average person doesn't really have much of a chance. Usually the hope of making quick money allures people and they end up losing everything...it's really a gamble.
            Its not a gamble, its quite simple as long as you respect a few fundamentals like only risking a small percentage of your capital on each trade as well as going for sensible risk/reward ratios. 1:1 R/R ratio is actually good enough in FX because the markets trend so well. You really need 1:3 R/R in stocks.
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          • Profile picture of the author mootonandy
            Originally Posted by pro4Xinvestor View Post

            Thanks for your post. I've also had a similar experience and have stayed away since. The markets are manipulated so the average person doesn't really have much of a chance. Usually the hope of making quick money allures people and they end up losing everything...it's really a gamble.
            Its not a gamble, its quite simple as long as you respect a few fundamentals like only risking a small percentage of your capital on each trade as well as going for sensible risk/reward ratios. 1:1 R/R ratio is actually good enough in FX because the markets trend so well. You really need 1:3 R/R in stocks.
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      • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
        Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

        Oanda are dealing desk scammers.
        Did you have a bad experience with this broker before?
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        • Profile picture of the author Liarspoker
          Since we have complementary interests I'll put my feelers out.

          I run a stock market education website, in Europe, and have a small list that I would be willing to send a solo ad too in return for myself sending a solo to your list.

          I could also sell your products to my list etc.

          If interested just PM me.

          If this post is in the wrong place just let me know and I will remove it.

          Happy investing!
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            Originally Posted by Liarspoker View Post

            Since we have complementary interests I'll put my feelers out.

            I run a stock market education website, in Europe, and have a small list that I would be willing to send a solo ad too in return for myself sending a solo to your list.

            I could also sell your products to my list etc.

            If interested just PM me.

            If this post is in the wrong place just let me know and I will remove it.

            Happy investing!
            How big is your list?
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  • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
    Originally Posted by greatdn View Post

    I am an active Forex and binary trader. Have used many different platforms in the past but recently found a great user friendly platform with easy payment options and good bonuses.

    check it out.

    lbinary - Binary Options Broker
    I've check it. And it looks like my broker. I mean both have the same features like good and attractive bonuses, friendly platform and easy payment options.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    binary options is a scam..only the broker make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      binary options is a scam..only the broker make money.
      Is this based on your experience that's why you said binary options trading is a scam?
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    Beacause it's the dumbest sorr of trading you can do

    1) tiny profits
    2) big losses
    3) many trades
    4) you have to exit the occasional great trad because it's 5:00pm?

    Slippage/broker fees hurt your profits hen your profit target is not at least 2X your losses. All those sh** forex robots that had 90% winning trades achieved this having profits about 25% of losses. So one loss and all your tiny profits are wiped out. But people loved that crap.

    Search around..you'll never find a long term successful day trader.

    AND..is that the life you really want? Staring at a screen 08:00 until 17:00?

    Just curious. Why day trading retail doesn't work? You are talking about Forex day trading right? Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author leebelisar
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      Beacause it's the dumbest sorr of trading you can do

      1) tiny profits
      2) big losses
      3) many trades
      4) you have to exit the occasional great trad because it's 5:00pm?

      Slippage/broker fees hurt your profits hen your profit target is not at least 2X your losses. All those sh** forex robots that had 90% winning trades achieved this having profits about 25% of losses. So one loss and all your tiny profits are wiped out. But people loved that crap.

      Search around..you'll never find a long term successful day trader.

      AND..is that the life you really want? Staring at a screen 08:00 until 17:00?
      Looks like you had a bad experience with trading robot, don't you? But anyway, since I am a morning person, I think, I would try day trading first when I go live. Thank you for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author tht222
    A few years back I demo traded for about six months and never had the guts to trade live. Not to mention that trading live is probably 10 times harder - when you add greed and fear to the equation plus the dirty little tricks that some brokers use (or at least used back then), a lot can go wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clautusoar
    You need to have financial awarness of a business before you invest in it when day trading on forex, am i right or wrong ?
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
    ARE you kidding me!

    trading since 1994 way beyond falling for your b*S robots and promises of 5,0000% per month NO RISK....

    I think your reply was tongue in cheek.

    Looks like you had a bad experience with trading robot, don't you? But anyway, since I am a morning person, I think, I would try day trading first when I go live. Thank you for sharing.
    Go on then.. riddance. Enjoy it! lost your $2k savings..remember me!
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  • Profile picture of the author gerski
    Many would enter and do forex trading but only few would succeed knowing forex really entails risk,one must indulge itself to learn and acquire sufficient knowledge as well as experienced since we are learning through our own trading experience and skills in trading is important as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
    Yes, the reason why most people lose money(apart from other stuff) is thinking that "Ah, the price fell so much, it can't go any deeper" or "After this upmove, there is no way it goes higher". In reality, it can and it will go deeper or higher, if the retail market is on the opposite side of the trade. If the pair goes up, keep going with the trend, worst case you will have 1 bad trade, when it turns. But if you go against the long trade and keep adding shorts, it can mean more than 1 losing trade...and eventually burn the account, if the margin can't keep up with all the added trades.
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  • Profile picture of the author vivo
    I don't trade, but I do speculate on currencies as part of a larger strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    If you lack control in your emotions...

    ...you're emotions will control you.

    It is so in life...as it is in trading.

    You can NOT be emotionally unstable
    and succeed in trading forex...

    ...but can you be emotionally unstable
    in any business and succeed?

    Maybe a short while if you're lucky...
    before losing it all eventually.

    Everyone who traded Forex, myself
    included learned HUGE lessons when
    breaking money management rules.

    It happens even to the brightest. You
    just rarely hear about it.

    You can be on a winning streak. Earn
    $600 profit in a single day in 30 min,
    and risk half or more on the next trade
    to lose it all.

    This happened to me.

    I remember taking a cold shower in
    the middle of January freezing weather,
    not feeling a thing...eyes glazed over
    asking myself, "What just happened?!"

    But did I quit?

    Hardly.

    The lose was my fault. It was because
    I over-leveraged and got excited from
    previous wins.

    If anything I was HAPPY to know that the
    cause of my mistake was breaking the 1%
    rule of my bankroll.

    Next day I realized, "if that's the WORST
    that can happen...I'm not AFRAID of losing
    it all"

    When the fear of losing eliminated from
    my mind, I was able to ACCEPT natural
    loses as par for the course.

    It didn't effect me anymore than winning
    did.

    I bounced back, made back the money
    I lost in 30 days of SAFE trading, made
    double that the following month and I
    NEVER made that mistake again.

    Why do I share this story?

    Because QUITTING is a habit most of
    you Warriors are proud to share.

    You wear it as a badge of honor and
    complain when things don't go your
    way.

    That's not the way real life works.

    Time to grow up, folks
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