How I personally make 5 figures in a month from Offline clients (Come share all your tips)

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Ok Im going to try this again, its strange that the last posting that I had just disappeared when we were starting to get some really good information about offline marketing. I did not save all my replies which I should have, but I also did not expect the post to just be taken off without any type of warning. THE PURPOSE OF THIS POSTING IS to show people how I have made money marketing offline, which is not in detailed, I will paste the original edited posting again, and will try to go into detail about some of the direct mail questions that were posted the first time. Lets make this the best informative post we can make.


Orignial Post:

Ok, I have watched all the buzz around Offline marketing, I have witness fellow warrior friends of mine get very excited and motivated. I have even read over some great plans of attack to get new clients in.

But something has happened, I notice something very interesting. It seem like before, many people were confident about their technical skills, they had the ability to perform the work but was a little nervous about getting clients, going out face to face and offering their skills to the clients in need.

Well now the tables have turned, many people are ok going out talking to clients, but have become less confident offering the services. They are afraid of not being able to get the clients the results they need, they are afraid to charge the client a high price. You see many of the offline guru's tell you to not worry about doing the work yourself just "outsource it" But have you noticed no one will ever give up the team they use. Which is a problem because you do not want to test a outsource team out with one of your new clients, it will be so much better to walk into the door, close the sale and have confidence knowing that you have a supportive team.
Well warriors your are definitely not alone. I have done years and years of research, I have posted add after add searching for the internet's greatest marketers, have had interviews with the worlds best marketers, some of the largest SEO companies out there who actually sources all of their work, and some great warriors, and thanks to my research I have some VERY great news for everyone.
Let me explain to you my process. And how I continue to have great 5 figure month deposits to my bank account, while still being able to travel around the world!
Process 1: Make a list of potential clients that I want to target
Process 2: Do research on each and everyone one of the clients and create a competitive analysis
Process 3: Depends on how big the potential client may be, Sometimes I send the client a introduction letter along with the competitive analysis via mail inside a (Hand written envelope) which works out great . You have a 85% chance of having the envelop open when it is hand written.
Process 4: Follow up with a phone call to client discussing the mail piece that I sent out.
Process 5: Close the deal, send all the information to the team of SEO consultants that I put together and starting working on getting more clients.

My goal is to always keep my pipeline filled with new clients, and let my high-tech consultants do all the SEO work. You would be amazed at how much revolving income you can have coming your way.

Also if you have any offline questions, lets take the time to post them here so we can get some good free advice. One of the things I have used to close deals is offering Marias offline mindmap that she created, I customize the file catered to the clients needs, show them everything that needs to be done, and 90 - 95% of the time they will allow me to do the entire project! If you have any tips or tricks that has worked for you, lets hear them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
    Nothing ground-breaking here. It sounds like you're running a good old fashioned "web design" business.

    I read about these techniques years ago in Sitepoint's Web Design Business kit. (A great read back in the day, btw)
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    • Profile picture of the author brazielr
      Your right, and what I have learned is making money with the offline clients is not groundbreaking. Every thing that I download says the exact same thing. I believe its more about taking action and changing your mindset.



      Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

      Nothing ground-breaking here. It sounds like you're running a good old fashioned "web design" business.

      I read about these techniques years ago in Sitepoint's Web Design Business kit. (A great read back in the day, btw)
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryce
        Originally Posted by brazielr View Post

        Your right, and what I have learned is making money with the offline clients is not groundbreaking. Every thing that I download says the exact same thing. I believe its more about taking action and changing your mindset.
        the KISS principle here ... Keep It Simple Stupid

        I talked about this before but Gary Vaynerchuck build his online empire by responding 700 to 1000 emails per day for 18 months.

        PP - Patience and Passion <-Please watch the video FYOI

        Offline / Online connection has a lot of potential and does not involves rocket science.

        hope your thread does not get deleted this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author brazielr
    In the previous thread the was deleted, someone asked me about Direct Mail, and getting people to open your mail:

    This is what I can tell you from my personal Experience. A partner and I started a technology company named Diverse Technology Solutions ( which I recently left to pursue the internet)in the Orange County area of beautiful Southern California. After attending different seminars and consulting with business coaches we decided to go with direct mail marketing.

    Just by sending out hand written envelops with a sales copy inside we received 50% more responses.

    When the client first opens the envelop we were taught to have the Letter folded with the words showing so when the client first opens the mail they can see some sort of writing right away.

    We then changed the normal envelops to the first class type envelops still with the hand writing on the front of the envelop. Our response rate jumped again from that change.

    Now one of the best responses that we had was a technique called Lumpy Mail. This is when you put a physical item inside the envelop that the client can feel:
    Example: We put a small bag of peanuts into the envelop, With the sales copy that read: "IS YOUR I.T COMPANY DRIVING YOU NUTS!"
    That received the highest response rate.

    Now with all of this in mind, you can just be creative, use some of this ideas, but change them around the way you would like to do it.

    I did the same exact thing with my new SEO clients, and it has worked out very well for me.
    Ok I will be posting some more tips, Lets all work together, Create a win/win and help each other understand what is working well from Themselves. Even if it seems like a small tip.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Process 3: Depends on how big the potential client may be, Sometimes I send the client a introduction letter along with the competitive analysis via mail inside a (Hand written envelope) which works out great . You have a 85% chance of having the envelop open when it is hand written.
      You still haven't clarified how you can state that probability. What is it based on?

      If it's based on hard data, I'd love to know how you measured it so I can test to see what my own results are.

      If it's based on a SWAG, that's cool. Just say so, and how you came to that conclusion. I'm not calling you out, I want to know how you got an 85% probability of open, that's all.

      Unless there's some new technology, it's even tough to accurately measure open rates for email. Impossible for plain text, open to errors for html mail...

      Your second post in the thread makes a lot more sense to me, in that it's consistent with my own experience.
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      • Profile picture of the author brazielr
        Your correct, my numbers are not based on the amount opened, but the results I received leading me to believe that since we had a increase of over 50% response rate compare to what he had before that lead me to believe that we had around a 85% open rate. If that makes any sense. With Direct Mail it is hard to know exacty how many people opened you rmessage, but you can get a sense by the results that it has generated.

        Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

        You still haven't clarified how you can state that probability. What is it based on?

        If it's based on hard data, I'd love to know how you measured it so I can test to see what my own results are.

        If it's based on a SWAG, that's cool. Just say so, and how you came to that conclusion. I'm not calling you out, I want to know how you got an 85% probability of open, that's all.

        Unless there's some new technology, it's even tough to accurately measure open rates for email. Impossible for plain text, open to errors for html mail...

        Your second post in the thread makes a lot more sense to me, in that it's consistent with my own experience.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by brazielr View Post

          Your correct, my numbers are not based on the amount opened, but the results I received leading me to believe that since we had a increase of over 50% response rate compare to what he had before that lead me to believe that we had around a 85% open rate. If that makes any sense. With Direct Mail it is hard to know exacty how many people opened you rmessage, but you can get a sense by the results that it has generated.
          That does make sense. One of the things I learned as an engineer is that a good SWAG is usually better than bad data.

          Thanks for the clarification.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by internetmarketingiq View Post

            I have a friend from High School that has a landscaping business. He mows lawns all day with his partner. They have more clients than they need. And he doen't use a computer at all.

            I guess not everything revolves around a PC.
            Originally Posted by bobmcalister View Post

            you should help your lawncutting friend get more business so he can hire some one else to do the cutting while he goes out selling more...inmy opinion .
            and sorry to go off thread here since I am always interested in this topic.

            some people using fax info letters to businesses?
            I guess it depends on what the two partners want out of their lawn cutting business. If they are happy with what they have, more power to them. Not everyone wants to conquer the world.

            Perhaps a slight tangent is in order...

            When a business owner tells you he's not interested in your services because he has all the business he wants, he may just be telling you the truth.

            It doesn't mean he's ignorant or "just doesn't get it" or just too cheap. It might mean he's in a particular business because he wants to work for himself, set his own hours, pick and choose his customers. As late-night comedian Craig Ferguson likes to say, "Remind you of anyone?"

            It also doesn't mean he won't someday change his mind.

            Actually, that is on topic as it falls under the 'share all your tips' part of the headline...
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      Originally Posted by brazielr View Post

      Just by sending out hand written envelops with a sales copy inside we received 50% more responses.

      It can work even better if the letter inside is handwritten too.

      The most important key to remember when you send snail mail to a business owner is that they get a LOT of mail and a lot of promotional offers and sales letters.

      If you want yours to stand out you should personalize and the more personal the better.

      It's more work but then Gold Members at offlinebiz.com using a specially designed hand written personalized letter are getting around 20% of business owners contacting them from the letter.

      So it does work and it is worthwhile to make that extra effort.

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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      • Profile picture of the author brazielr
        Originally Posted by AndrewCavanagh View Post

        It can work even better if the letter inside is handwritten too.

        The most important key to remember when you send snail mail to a business owner is that they get a LOT of mail and a lot of promotional offers and sales letters.

        If you want yours to stand out you should personalize and the more personal the better.

        It's more work but then Gold Members at offlinebiz.com using a specially designed hand written personalized letter are getting around 20% of business owners contacting them from the letter.

        So it does work and it is worthwhile to make that extra effort.

        Kindest regards,
        Andrew Cavanagh
        Thats awesome, thanks for adding that. I would have to agree with you 100% about the handwritten letter also.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    regarding direct mail... I merged my first web development consulting company with a very large direct marketing print company. This company owns about 30% of the US Valpak franchises and literally drops several million mailbox coupon mags every month. I know the business very well.

    Nielsen reported earlier this year, that only 38% of all internet consumers use any form of direct mail as a resource when looking for any kind of information about local companies, their products or services.

    Local search on search engines had the highest of all percentage of use at 82% and the Yellow Pages was only 57% and shrinking. Local search and email newsletters were the only two forms of media to grow in local business marketing in the past 2 years.
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  • I have a friend from High School that has a landscaping business. He mows lawns all day with his partner. They have more clients than they need. And he doen't use a computer at all.

    I guess not everything revolves around a PC.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jesus Perez
      Originally Posted by internetmarketingiq View Post

      I have a friend from High School that has a landscaping business. He mows lawns all day with his partner. They have more clients than they need. And he doen't use a computer at all.

      I guess not everything revolves around a PC.
      But if he had one, he could expand his business to other areas, get leads...and sell those leads to local landscaping companies for a quick buck.
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      • Profile picture of the author John Durham
        Originally Posted by BlueSquares View Post

        But if he had one, he could expand his business to other areas, get leads...and sell those leads to local landscaping companies for a quick buck.
        I love this answer!

        Ironcially, I was just working on my computer earlier today watching someone mow a lawn outside the window with a big bush hog thinking, "He looks like he's just cruising along taking it easy, gettin a tan... I wonder how much he gets paid for that". He also had a big ole $50,000. truck and trailor to pull his mower around with...

        On Sharing a tip about offline marketing:

        1: Make your product easy to produce.
        2: Low price. ie; Make it easy for lot's of people to say yes to.

        Sam Walton can sell out a million units of leg warmers, which haven't been in style for 30 years... because he sells them for 25 cents per "bundle"... Heck, if you didn't do anything but tie em together and make a rope, you get your money's worth...

        It's easy to say yes when there's clearly no way to lose.
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    • Profile picture of the author bobmcalister
      you should help your lawncutting friend get more business so he can hire some one else to do the cutting while he goes out selling more...inmy opinion .
      and sorry to go off thread here since I am always interested in this topic.

      some people using fax info letters to businesses?
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      • Profile picture of the author brazielr
        I have not tried that with SEO clients. But I knew some marketers who utilized "Fax Blasting" for mortgage leads. Now days you have to be very careful because of the Fax spam laws.

        Originally Posted by bobmcalister View Post

        you should help your lawncutting friend get more business so he can hire some one else to do the cutting while he goes out selling more...inmy opinion .
        and sorry to go off thread here since I am always interested in this topic.

        some people using fax info letters to businesses?
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    • Profile picture of the author brazielr
      Originally Posted by internetmarketingiq View Post

      I have a friend from High School that has a landscaping business. He mows lawns all day with his partner. They have more clients than they need. And he doen't use a computer at all.

      I guess not everything revolves around a PC.

      Yeap I Would search for local landscaping companies, do competitive analysis on each one, present the results and the webpages to your friend. It's like back in the day not every business had a email address, they did not see the importance of it. It's up to you to help him realize the importance of marketing. What makes successful businesses is having the ability to continue marketing even when things are good. Do you think Microsoft, Dell, Apple, Sprint, Verizon.... Stops marketing just because they already have a ton of business? Time and unforeseen occurrences can strike anytime, its always best to be prepared and have a solid plan just in case. There were companies before the "recession" that were doing good, since they already had business they did not see the importance of marketing for more business, they did not see the importance of building a list, only thing they knew was they were already making money. But soon as the "recession hit" these same businesses were not prepared, and lost tons of money and some even went out of business.
      And John is correct, after explaining all of this, and if he still does not want to move forward, just keep him updaated once in awhile, keep him on your list, follow up and one day he might have a change of heart!
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  • Profile picture of the author George Sepich
    The whole key to offline is building trust, how you do it is up to you. Once you got it, you got the money too.
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  • Profile picture of the author jficarro
    I'm glad this thread is coming back (no matter what anyone says).
    I decided to go all out and opened an office complex with programmers, designers, and my marketing experience. I get lots of interest and can easily get people excited about the concept of combining design and marketing, but just can't get most people to actually sign a contract and hand over a check. Now, it's already tuesday (almost wednesday) and I have to worry about another payroll on friday. ugggg.

    I actually put together a separate site, cut my prices by 75%, and posted on the warriors for hire (pending approval).

    Not sure what i'm doing wrong (unless $3900 is too high for website development). I am a little scattered and need to focus on closing some deals (beyond everything else). I haven't tried direct mail - because I had a bunch of prospects and they were all excited.

    It's not all bad, I have some major things in the works, but getting the check from the client is not my strength.

    Do you guys think I should lower my price? or just double my efforts and focus on getting clients to sign and at least give a down payment.

    sorry if I sound like an idiot. It's midnight and I've been working all day literally on getting the warrior for hire site good enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ryce
      Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

      I'm glad this thread is coming back (no matter what anyone says).
      I decided to go all out and opened an office complex with programmers, designers, and my marketing experience. I get lots of interest and can easily get people excited about the concept of combining design and marketing, but just can't get most people to actually sign a contract and hand over a check. Now, it's already tuesday (almost wednesday) and I have to worry about another payroll on friday. ugggg.

      I actually put together a separate site, cut my prices by 75%, and posted on the warriors for hire (pending approval).

      Not sure what i'm doing wrong (unless $3900 is too high for website development). I am a little scattered and need to focus on closing some deals (beyond everything else). I haven't tried direct mail - because I had a bunch of prospects and they were all excited.

      It's not all bad, I have some major things in the works, but getting the check from the client is not my strength.

      Do you guys think I should lower my price? or just double my efforts and focus on getting clients to sign and at least give a down payment.

      sorry if I sound like an idiot. It's midnight and I've been working all day literally on getting the warrior for hire site good enough.
      Offer something for free and then upsell, downsell etc

      try to get overhead down
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    • Profile picture of the author brazielr
      Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

      I'm glad this thread is coming back (no matter what anyone says).
      I decided to go all out and opened an office complex with programmers, designers, and my marketing experience. I get lots of interest and can easily get people excited about the concept of combining design and marketing, but just can't get most people to actually sign a contract and hand over a check. Now, it's already tuesday (almost wednesday) and I have to worry about another payroll on friday. ugggg.

      I actually put together a separate site, cut my prices by 75%, and posted on the warriors for hire (pending approval).

      Not sure what i'm doing wrong (unless $3900 is too high for website development). I am a little scattered and need to focus on closing some deals (beyond everything else). I haven't tried direct mail - because I had a bunch of prospects and they were all excited.

      It's not all bad, I have some major things in the works, but getting the check from the client is not my strength.

      Do you guys think I should lower my price? or just double my efforts and focus on getting clients to sign and at least give a down payment.

      sorry if I sound like an idiot. It's midnight and I've been working all day literally on getting the warrior for hire site good enough.

      Yea you need to for sure offer something for free. You need to get inside of your customers mind. Put yourself in their shoes. How do they feel? What are they looking for? What are the biggest problems they run into?
      Once you figure that out, ask yourself what you can offer than to help them solve a problem right away. If there was 1 thing you can offer your client right now that can actually bring value, what would it be? And how can you give it to them for free.
      Example:
      If you find out about the customer, learn about their business, and offer them a layout showing exactly what their business needs to make money from the internet. Have it laid out so it shows their Squeeze page, Social Profiles, Articles, Blogs..... And have it laid out to show how the traffic can go to their main site. The Offline Mind Map that I was talking about is a WSO That Maria created which sold for 5 dollars. (She has like 4 different WSO's out) They say you can charge $500+ as a consultation fee to the client by using that offline Mind Map, I say give it to your client for free and help them to understand that the free Map that you just created for them normally cost XXX amount of dollars, so they can see they just received a lot of value for free.
      After that, they will look at you as the Guru, They will see what needs to be done online to generate traffic, and they will want to outsource the actual work to you. Its a risk but you are creating value for the client, and they will appreciate it.
      Hope that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author jficarro
        Originally Posted by brazielr View Post

        Yea you need to for sure offer something for free. You need to get inside of your customers mind. Put yourself in their shoes. How do they feel? What are they looking for? What are the biggest problems they run into?
        Once you figure that out, ask yourself what you can offer than to help them solve a problem right away. If there was 1 thing you can offer your client right now that can actually bring value, what would it be? And how can you give it to them for free.
        Example:
        If you find out about the customer, learn about their business, and offer them a layout showing exactly what their business needs to make money from the internet. Have it laid out so it shows their Squeeze page, Social Profiles, Articles, Blogs..... And have it laid out to show how the traffic can go to their main site. The Offline Mind Map that I was talking about is a WSO That Maria created which sold for 5 dollars. (She has like 4 different WSO's out) They say you can charge $500+ as a consultation fee to the client by using that offline Mind Map, I say give it to your client for free and help them to understand that the free Map that you just created for them normally cost XXX amount of dollars, so they can see they just received a lot of value for free.
        After that, they will look at you as the Guru, They will see what needs to be done online to generate traffic, and they will want to outsource the actual work to you. Its a risk but you are creating value for the client, and they will appreciate it.
        Hope that helps.
        I do that. I haven't tried or purchased the mind map, but that's a thought.

        I feel like I give out too much already. Maybe I'm not doing it right. Like i networked with a political group and volunteered to do their logo, now I am volunteering to do their website - where does it end.

        I always thought I was a good businessman. Starting to wonder.

        Warrior for Hire site is active and so far one PM and one "ask for more samples" Wish me luck and please, any advise WILL be taken to heart. I love IM, but I want to do the offline stuff. I feel very attracted to it and enjoy working directly with the people.
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        • Profile picture of the author Vikuna2009+
          Maybe offer to do a FREE submission to Google local or Google maps? Just casually ask if they are listed? If they are not, do it right then and there, that will get their juices flowing!

          What about adding a coupon, a picture or several and even a video! Then talk about what else you can do. I'm new to this myself so I am not saying that this is going to work but worth a try.

          For example, add them for free and then charge for anything additional but make it affordable. Just my 2 cents...
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    • Profile picture of the author LibertyUnc
      Originally Posted by jficarro View Post

      I'm glad this thread is coming back (no matter what anyone says).
      I decided to go all out and opened an office complex with programmers, designers, and my marketing experience. I get lots of interest and can easily get people excited about the concept of combining design and marketing, but just can't get most people to actually sign a contract and hand over a check. Now, it's already tuesday (almost wednesday) and I have to worry about another payroll on friday. ugggg.

      I actually put together a separate site, cut my prices by 75%, and posted on the warriors for hire (pending approval).

      Not sure what i'm doing wrong (unless $3900 is too high for website development). I am a little scattered and need to focus on closing some deals (beyond everything else). I haven't tried direct mail - because I had a bunch of prospects and they were all excited.

      It's not all bad, I have some major things in the works, but getting the check from the client is not my strength.

      Do you guys think I should lower my price? or just double my efforts and focus on getting clients to sign and at least give a down payment.

      sorry if I sound like an idiot. It's midnight and I've been working all day literally on getting the warrior for hire site good enough.
      Personally, I'd piecemeal it out.

      Instead of going for the big payday, split up what you offer into smaller packages so that more people will give it a try.

      They might be leery of paying 4k for a web site, but if you can get them a decent site with the basics for a much smaller amount and then have the ability to let them get more as time goes by, you might do better.

      Not everyone has 4k/month to spend on marketing...and that might be a bit steep for an unproven investment. Anywise, just kind of thinking outloud.

      In my neck of the woods you mention web site and everyone runs screaming. The obvious reason is that they all got suckered into big buys not so many years back and got ugly to pretty sites...and no traffic. The sad part is that the local economy is dying (primarily due to bad politics and outmoded thinking) and almost no one will even consider that continuing to do the same thing over and over while hoping for different results might just be a bit daft.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dietrich
    Another source of business for me gotten from the offline world was hosting a free mini seminar or meetup. I had some cards printed and made some fliers. I handed them out at my bank (nice of them to pass these along), the local chamber of commerce and emailed friends, put a few fliers up at the local college and just told everyone I knew for a few weeks. I held this at a local restaurant for free (they just wanted to have attendees buy there lunch there) and on the day, I maxed out the room. There was only rook for 30 and 67 showed up. I made sure everyone filled outa guest register and took a card.

    They where also informed that if they go to whe website on the card and filled in their info, that they would receive all the notes from the days topics and a free digital book immediately after they filled out the information and hit the button on the page.

    Word of mouth must have taken over, because by the next day I had 123 optins. Just some thoughts for people that want to get some free leads and get more business form the offline world with their online skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author LibertyUnc
      Originally Posted by Dietrich View Post

      Another source of business for me gotten from the offline world was hosting a free mini seminar or meetup. I had some cards printed and made some fliers. I handed them out at my bank (nice of them to pass these along), the local chamber of commerce and emailed friends, put a few fliers up at the local college and just told everyone I knew for a few weeks. I held this at a local restaurant for free (they just wanted to have attendees buy there lunch there) and on the day, I maxed out the room. There was only rook for 30 and 67 showed up. I made sure everyone filled outa guest register and took a card.

      They where also informed that if they go to whe website on the card and filled in their info, that they would receive all the notes from the days topics and a free digital book immediately after they filled out the information and hit the button on the page.

      Word of mouth must have taken over, because by the next day I had 123 optins. Just some thoughts for people that want to get some free leads and get more business form the offline world with their online skills.
      Very nice. I'm doing the same thing in my area...just put up fliers in a few prominent places today and spoke with a small group of local business owners this morning.
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  • Profile picture of the author ayolov
    The problem I see in going offline to offer website services is that people who are offline tend to stay away from the online market, mostly because they don't understand what will online tactics bring to their brick and mortar store. When you contact a business owner online, this automatically qualifies him for your services because he is actively using the internet, he understands it better and can perceive true value investing in it.

    And yes, may companies set up their website some yeas ago because it was fashionable, but they were quickly abandoned and most were a waste of the company's money.

    My opinion is that business owners that are online are more likely to convert, so efforts should be centered on contacting and convincing those.
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  • Profile picture of the author zoobie
    interesting read... well but I don't know doing offline consultancy... anyone is a nice read here.
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    ayolov, you make a good point and I have found that some business owners do not understand the value of having a "ranking" business online, but I feel it is part of my job... or should I say pleasure to educate these business owners and show them what can be done. Granted it is far easier now that I have clients and have permission to show results and give phone numbers for references.

    But if someone really has the time and wants to make an impression (and some possible money), they could do what I did when I first started...

    I contacted a few business people that I knew and offered them a free website (I used a free web 2.0 site for this). All I asked was for 10 minutes of there time. That would be the entire fee for doing this.

    I had two people bite on this right away. So, I slapped up the site, used some long tail and niched it for my local area and bam. About 2 weeks later one of them called me back because he got a lead off the site (the business always asks how did you hear about us when they make appointments... good for me

    With this almost immediate action, in his mind, I was hired and charged $1500 for building his website, affiliate commissions for aweber, hostgator, and one more domain purchase in my godday reseller account. Not bad for about 2 hours of work and a ten minute phone conversation.

    I hope I didn't get to off track with this thread. I just want to add what I can to the community and help as many people as I can with my current skill set.
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