Mentors... Good idea? Bad Idea? Too much $??

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Hi there,

I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

Thanks!

- Newbie
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  • Profile picture of the author AffScot
    A mentor is a good way to learn Internet Marketing. If you're looking for a mentor who will sit and have a chat with you one to one on the phone, skype or even email then you'll need to pay a pretty penny, normally. This tends to rule many people out because they want to make money, not spend it.

    The best advice I can give you is the fact that most information is freely available either on this forum or other forums, you just have to piece it together and take action.

    Copying someone else's advice will only get you so far. You also have to implement your own ideas.
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  • Profile picture of the author John J M
    I think a lot comes down to how self-motivated you are and how stubborn you are to keep trying/not quit. If you tend to need a lot of support to get things done, a mentor is great. A mentor can also be great to teach you specific skills. It's funny, but the ones who teach specific skills often charge less than ones who are there mainly to motivate.
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  • Profile picture of the author alanborcic
    It's the same principle with "free" vs paid advertising. You can spend your time doing "free" marketing and hope that Google, Facebook and Co won't change their algorithm and you will eventually get some traffic in few months. Or you can pay for traffic and get it immediately.
    The thing is that "free" advertising is not really free, you are spending a lot of time on it.

    The same is with mentor. You can try to learn by yourself, looking for information on Internet and forums like this, without really knowing how sound those advices are, or you can pay someone who is where you want to be, and shorten learning curve.

    Let's be honest, Internet accept everything, and there is really no way to figure out which information is good and which is not. A lot of people talks theory but their advices are not working in real world. So be careful whose advice you follow.

    The problem is that majority of people wants something for nothing, which is against law of nature. People would like to have quality advice for free, yet in the same time the same people are willing to pay significant though for college.

    Business is investment, and it has to be treated as such. I shelled significant moolah for business coaching which propel my game to the level that I don't think I would be able to get so fast by myself.

    So finding good mentor is always good thing. If you are coachable and willing to leave your ego at the door and actually do what mentor tells you to do. If mentor tells you jump, you ask how high? Otherwise you will be wasting your money
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    • Profile picture of the author James Clark
      To the OP. I will answer your question with a story. Imagine this, you have a house with a garage. And you clean out the garage. So, an engineer insert a blueprint with a car engine with all the component parts in the blueprint to put the engine back together again and name them for you.

      Now, you can read all the manuals, listen to recording,etc. And you can do it all day, everyday and you won't be able to put that engine back together again, so the car will start. (maybe one in ten thousand will be able to do it)

      Finally, wouldn't it be easier to have the engineer work with you one-on-one and show you how to do it? I don't expect you to grasp this concept immediately.

      But you will go through the process of looking for a secret. If you are like most business owners eventually give up. So, don't say you weren't told!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ryan David
        Originally Posted by James Clark View Post

        To the OP. I will answer your question with a story. Imagine this, you have a house with a garage. And you clean out the garage. So, an engineer insert a blueprint with a car engine with all the component parts in the blueprint to put the engine back together again and name them for you.

        Now, you can read all the manuals, listen to recording,etc. And you can do it all day, everyday and you won't be able to put that engine back together again, so the car will start. (maybe one in ten thousand will be able to do it)

        Finally, wouldn't it be easier to have the engineer work with you one-on-one and show you how to do it? I don't expect you to grasp this concept immediately.

        But you will go through the process of looking for a secret. If you are like most business owners eventually give up. So, don't say you weren't told!
        I wouldn't hire an engineer to show me. I'd have a mechanic put it back together and I'd spend my time doing something else.
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    • Profile picture of the author dewayneboyd
      No one should be getting a mentor to teach them the basics, as some are saying or implying in this thread. You aren't getting your money's worth because the basics aren't going to make you one red cent.

      By the way, why does any newbie actually need a mentor? If the mentor is really that good, he would just create the sales or marketing funnel that he is supposedly teaching you instead of spending his time teaching. Someone gave the example of a mentor making 10K per client or whatever. LOL. For 10K, he better be setting everything up and guaranteeing success. And I don't know any mentor who legitimately does that.

      People who are ALREADY successful can consider getting a mentor for specialized training. And that is generally called "consulting," not "mentorship." No newbie should be getting a mentor. It rarely makes any sense at all. And the OP is a self-described newbie. He needs to get the basics down first and achieve a little success. Then, he can cherry pick a specific mentor if he has a specific problem that a specific mentor can help him with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
    In many major metropolitan areas like Chicago, you will actually find Internet marketing veterans on meetup.com. I would bet that you will find either a small business or Internet marketing meetup just by doing a search there. You will invariably find lots of great business minds there who can bounce ideas off you. Many times try will offer mentoring and sometimes they want to just mastermind where it won't cost you anything.

    So start with that!
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  • Profile picture of the author johnmags
    Reading posts in this forum can help you formulate your success blueprint. But a mentor can help track your progress along the way and guide you towards your goal. Mentorship is only good if you are able to find a trusted person and a true expert. So, good luck in finding one. I'm sure some members here can help you.
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  • It's a good thing if used right. I used a bunch of mentors and overtime I get into a new niche I like to use a mentor to go over my plan and look it over give me a different view from their perspective and experience. In my public speaking biz I had a guy fix my sales close in 3 minutes flat and all the free info, all the research all the forum talk could not do, for his it was easy to figure out, he had a fresh perspective and not just spotted but recognized my problem and told me the solution of course it had to implement not him.

    What I notice is some people thinking mentoring is something doing everything for you and you get results that is not what it is and I think that mindset is the problem.
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  • Profile picture of the author EPoltrack77
    Mentors are a must have! How else are you suppose to learn how to do it? You need to change your thinking and there is no better way than by mentoring with somebody who is doing it! There is a lot to affiliate marketing. Sure the fundamentals and concept is easy but to actually go out and do it. Thats a whole nother ball park. It's kinda like art work or a feel. Having multiple mentors is good as well. Personal development has played a great roll in my success online.

    Go after it and go get it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kevin_Hutto
    It really depends on lots of factors... One of the best things to do if you are REALLY new is to try and totally immerse yourself in the topic for 30 days or so. Then you will have lots of questions (write them down). Take the questions and start getting them answered. Get a base level knowledge of the business. Then you might have an idea what particular model you want to actually follow - and find a mentor who teaches that methodology. I would also suggest that you think about your strengths, your personality type, etc... as those will affect your happiness in what you choose.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    A good mentor is worth their weight in gold. An average mentor not so much. It's the same with everything. You need to make sure you get a good mentor and if so, you should be more than happy to pay them because you know they are going to save you a ton of time and money.
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      There is nothing like here in the forum have internet marketing experts who will always help Thanks, I was also useful to the information.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
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    bollocks! Seems the "coaches" are very fast to reply.

    The big money makers simply do not have the time nor the desire to "teach." The rest do.
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    • Profile picture of the author cuie
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      bollocks! Seems the "coaches" are very fast to reply.

      The big money makers simply do not have the time nor the desire to "teach." The rest do.
      And this is based on what fact?

      If GOOD coach / mentor charges $10,000 and does 10 persons per month, you feel that this $1,200,000 / year is just pocket money to them?
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      • Profile picture of the author PCH
        Originally Posted by cuie View Post

        And this is based on what fact?

        If GOOD coach / mentor charges $10,000 and does 10 persons per month, you feel that this $1,200,000 / year is just pocket money to them?
        I don't know that there are many charging $10k per month buddy, which is what they'd have to be charging for your calculation to work.

        $10,000 x 10 people x 12 months = $1.2M

        Hmmm... I'm gonna become a mentor
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  • Profile picture of the author emelef
    Familiarise yourself with what IM is. Read books about listbuilding, traffic sources, copywriting... then get yourself a mentor. They are worth their weight in gold, but choose wisely. More expensive is not always best, as these guys are so called 'gurus' and you get less value for your money (ie time). So like a car - work your way up. Get a mid-range mentor who is not swamped with clients so they give you time. But make sure they have testimonials or better still, give you a trial session so you can scope them out yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author trader909
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    Exactly..they make more teaching than doing. No-one in their right mind invites competition..not for 10k, $50K

    If GOOD coach / mentor charges $10,000 and does 10 persons per month, you feel that this $1,200,000 / year is just pocket money to them?
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    • Profile picture of the author cuie
      Originally Posted by trader909 View Post

      Exactly..they make more teaching than doing. No-one in their right mind invites competition..not for 10k, $50K
      I agree but my point was that you can be "big money maker" and also teach = coach.

      If I have a business that is generating $50,000 monthly with outsourced and automated work, I'd be happy coaching and mentoring people. Usually one person would take about 1-3h /week my own time. Other work is outsourced to webinars, etc.

      Of course I wouldn't give out my exact system but I'd teach the principles on how you get there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave37
    A mentor id always worth having as long as you can afford it. With a simple manual or video course, you can have many questions left unanswered but with the mentor you are taken by the hand.I think most mentors communicate through emails, but they can also have free Skype sessions with their students.
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    Getting a mentor is the best decision you will make in all likelihood. First you should research which mentors have the skill sets that you want to develop, and then once you are confident you found someone who IS where you want to BE then jump right in and don't look back!

    If I were you I would invest time into this research period so you know you are joining the right mentorship group and will feel confident once you start receiving direction.
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  • Profile picture of the author dewayneboyd
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

    Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    If you don't have a vision yet, think again if you think a mentor is really going to make you successful. You probably don't need a mentor at all. But if you do, it's certainly not before you have the basics down. You want to at least have a working knowledge of basic marketing techniques first. Otherwise, you will be paying someone and won't even know what to ask.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris30K
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

    Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    Get a mentor.

    I did 1 hour phone call with a mentor; and sure it costed me money; but it certainly propelled me to new heights.

    He gave me a list of books to reads to change my mindset & approach to marketing, told me my weaknesses, where I needed to improve, email scripts, marketing material, etc.

    This guy basically saved 1 year of trial and error in one hour of conversation.
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  • Profile picture of the author ddev
    Interesting discussion. I think that there's nothing wrong with the idea of looking for a mentor. The problem is that there are many fake "gurus" trying to coach you. My advice: look for the right mentor, don't let him come to you through an ad.

    In practical terms, if you need a mentor for launching your own products, building a list or something similar...look for big guys who are behind different big launches (many of them do their job in silence)...

    Step 1: Look for past big launches (CB, JVZoo, W+).
    Step 2: Use google to find JV pages for those launches.
    Step 3: Find contest winners and you'll get many people to follow.

    Some may offer coaching, some not (if not you could google for training /ebooks/ etc from them).

    The same principle can be applied to other areas: look for people who are already getting results.

    Just m.h.o.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

    Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    the cost really depends on the mentor i have seen some charge 4 or 5 figures and some in the hundreds really depends on the mentor. Coaching is usually done by a phone call or via skype, which again depends on the mentor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Mortimer
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

    Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    Hey Newbie

    Coaching varies so much. I've used a few over the years (and offer my own at different levels). Here's a list of people I've used myself:

    Jacob Stein - Coached on List Building - Built my first site and its still live and getting traffic. The coaching was weak of traffic generation though. Cost $1k

    Matthew Glanfield - Traffic Coaching - $500 for 9 modules and intro (Intro itself was mind-blowing). Did transcriptions for Matthew so have rights to calls and PDFs.

    Matthew Glanfield - Platinum Coaching - Pay an end fee of $20k to be taken from my profits, but monthly amount of $497 (which would reduce end fee, so would not be an addition). Split test 4 sites for me and promoted the winner and made sales.
    But, there was no core training. I needed more direction. Also, closed it before I got to the end (however, compensated me very well).

    Both Jacob and Matthew have left IM (but I hope that helps you).

    Also:
    Chris Freville - 6 Figures with Chris (something like $500). Got a lot out of it.

    Sean Mize - Various prices as I've been with Sean a long time and spent a lot with him. He's now charging $97pm or $197pm for 2 different programs. Sean is a home marketer who gets 6-figures! He's a prodigious product producer and can command high-ticket prices. (By the way, he just got WSO of the Day a few days back...)
    A lot I teach, I've based on his model. Then, tweaked things where I've done it a bit different. For example: Sean no longer uses solo ads, but I've been getting great results. I consulted him about it.
    But, I would not be where I am without Sean!

    Eric Louviere - Eric has several great coaching offers, right now! He's a 7-figure marketer. Looking forward to really ramping things up with him.

    The problem is: you can over-analyse everything. Try and work out what is the best value coaching etc. But, you will just waste your time.

    Find a marketer you 'click' with, and pay what it takes to work with him.

    Richard
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  • Profile picture of the author yamilsenior
    You know why all the mayor athletes have coaches?

    It's because sometime you're too close to yourself to see what you're doing wrong, and also you need the voice of experience guiding you so that you avoid some of the mistakes others have made.

    So is having a mentor a good idea? It's the best thing you can ever do for your business, I've done it and I've never paid for it because I know something most people don't.

    Leaders are attracted by other leaders...

    If you go up to a leader in a certain niche and start asking these newbie questions they usually ignore you, but if you invest in your education, go through books, videos, courses, events and you show other leaders that you are determined and willing to go to the top they will respond.

    So having a mentor is a MUST, it's not optional
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan David
    If you can't make a few bucks on your own initially, then you shouldn't be hiring a mentor/coach or whatever. To be frank, a lot of people aren't smart enough or savvy enough to make money online and a mentor isn't going to change that. If you can't make a few bucks without someone holding your hand, then save yourself the money for a mentor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor. How much do mentors typically charge and how do they train you? Locally, chat, skype? Does everyone agree a mentor is the way to go, or can I learn just as much on this forum by posting regularly and reading other posts?

    Anyone know any strong mentors in Chicago?

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    You should be aware that this thread as it stands (with the general nature of your question, rather than listing a few mentors and asking about them specifically), is a magnet for every wannabe guru out there to come along offering their "help", which likely will be nothing more than a weight loss extreme makeover for your wallet.

    I would strongly suggest you spend some serious time on the forum, join the Warroom, get to know whose posts resonate with you, learn as much as you can about a few of the business models you are interested in, then decide which model you would like to pursue, learn as much about it as possible before even getting serious about your search for a mentor. Then start paying attention to who is most respected in that area, and who always seems to have thoughtful, generous (not too self-serving) posts which others appreciate.

    Why not just dive in and learn all that from a mentor in the first place? Because you won't have the knowledge to even choose wisely, and you would be paying a lot just to get the lay of the land, which you can do on your own. If you want to learn classical cello, you start with just learning some basics like how to hold the bow, and play a major scale in tune, before you are ready for a master class from Yo-Yo Ma. Otherwise you're wasting his time and your money.

    As to how much mentors charge and their training methods, that's the classic "how long is a piece of string" type question. Whether it's a good idea for you is like asking people who don't know you or the person you're dating "should I get married"? Some people never should, others might be happy married, but not unless the person they marry fits certain criteria.

    One thing I can tell you for sure though, is you need not look for a mentor in your neck of the woods; it is very unlikely you will need to ever meet in person.
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  • Profile picture of the author fxmaui92
    I've owned and operated 3 different businesses. The ones that were most profitable were the ones where I hired a mentor to guide me. Each time, the investment more than tripled my income. The key is to pick the right mentor Do your research, ask around, interview them before investing in them. Learn about their teaching style. What have others said about them? Find the one the matches you the best. Yes, price is important, but shouldn't be the main factor involved. And.....you usually get what you pay for!
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    • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
      Originally Posted by fxmaui92 View Post

      .....you usually get what you pay for!
      That is exactly the point.

      Just do your math. You do not want to be coached by somebody who makes less than you.

      So, write down how much you want to make per month. Let's say you want to make $20,000 a month.

      Then you want to learn how to work less and not more. Your mentor should know how to do that. So, lets say he achieved the $20k per month with 20 hours a week or 80 hours a month.

      Divide $20,000 by 80 hours and you come up with $250/ hour.

      So, a mentor that can show you how to make $20k per month with 20 hours work per week should not charge less than $250 per hour.

      If you expect to make $20k per month and try to get a mentor for $99 you will most likely not get what tried to achieve.
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      • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
        Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

        That is exactly the point.

        Just do your math. You do not want to be coached by somebody who makes less than you.

        So, write down how much you want to make per month. Let's say you want to make $20,000 a month.

        Then you want to learn how to work less and not more. Your mentor should know how to do that. So, lets say he achieved the $20k per month with 20 hours a week or 80 hours a month.

        Divide $20,000 by 80 hours and you come up with $250/ hour.

        So, a mentor that can show you how to make $20k per month with 20 hours work per week should not charge less than $250 per hour.

        If you expect to make $20k per month and try to get a mentor for $99 you will most likely not get what tried to achieve.
        What he said. Seriously, this is imo, very astute advice that simply makes a ton of sense. The only exception would be someone who genuinely relies on their main business for income, and does coaching for reasons other than the fees.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    Just be careful you do your research because on the Internet, perception is everything. There have been several marketers in the last few months who have been caught out and forced to admit they were living a life of lies and all of the promises and money they told everyone they were earning, were fabricated. I think you'll find it's a lot more common than you think. Big marketers seen to be earning big bucks only to really be struggling behind the scenes. So do your due diligence!
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  • Profile picture of the author qwikad
    As it has been noted, a mentor can only get you so far. Affiliate Marketing is an ongoing learning process. There are so many different aspects to it that it may take time to figure all of them out. I think the best way to go about it is to hang out with like-minded people on IM forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Corden
    I can only speak for myself but my life, my business, my productivity, my knowledge, my potential, my position of power and my ability to take control and plan my work has increased exponentially by investing in my mentor.

    I have blogged about this transformation over the last two months. It has been inspiring. Feel free to visit and take stock of how it has helped me change direction for the better.

    I plan to quit my job on 31st december - need I say more?
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard Mortimer
    Originally Posted by newbiemarketingguy View Post

    Hi there,

    I am a new affiliate marketer and I believe it would be highly beneficial for me to begin working with a mentor.

    Thanks!

    - Newbie
    One thing to bare in mind is the difference between group coaching and one-on-one coaching.

    In group coaching the coach coaches a group. Therefore, this coaching is cheaper and makes less demands on the coach. The problem is, its likely to be less targeted.

    In one-on-one you will (usually) have to pay more. The reason? Its more specific to you, your business, and what you want to achieve.

    Richard
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  • If you ask me - everything you need you can find on the net or in the local library...

    BUT - this is the process that takes time!

    And time is the only component in life you don't have. The biggest mistake of many newbies (me included) was that I tried to learn and do everything for myself - yes, you can learn to handle Final Cut, but it is much better to pay someone to do the video for you for example - and you can concentrate on generating revenue from it.

    Saying that - the same with mentors - go for the mentor! But first google about him (her), then contact him, chat with him if he suit your needs...

    Again, you can go your separate route, but it is much loooooonger and curvy. The problem also with this forum is that you get to many information and distractions.

    Right Mentor helps you getting focused on the most important goals...

    And more thing.... go for the best you can afford (the right ones will get you your initial investment back in no time....)
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    • Profile picture of the author alfred1982
      Originally Posted by Sebastijan BBK Belko View Post

      If you ask me - everything you need you can find on the net or in the local library...

      BUT - this is the process that takes time!

      And time is the only component in life you don't have. The biggest mistake of many newbies (me included) was that I tried to learn and do everything for myself - yes, you can learn to handle Final Cut, but it is much better to pay someone to do the video for you for example - and you can concentrate on generating revenue from it.

      Saying that - the same with mentors - go for the mentor! But first google about him (her), then contact him, chat with him if he suit your needs...

      Again, you can go your separate route, but it is much loooooonger and curvy. The problem also with this forum is that you get to many information and distractions.

      Right Mentor helps you getting focused on the most important goals...

      And more thing.... go for the best you can afford (the right ones will get you your initial investment back in no time....)
      Yes definitely. I agree that we can find what we need as a newbie right here in the warrior forum. But having the right mentor to guide you can really shorten your learning curve and point you in the right direction faster than if you are doing it alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Interestingly, almost every sales letter I read online takes the the positioning
    that the product can solve your problem because the product creator
    tried it the trial and error way but now he can save you a lot of time
    by giving you the 'short cut'. That's the whole idea behind mentoring.

    So each product you buy is really a "mentoring in a box" solution to
    your problems.

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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Since you already call yourself an affiliate marketer at least you have decided the general direction you want to go to earn money online. There are many, many ways that affiliate marketers actually market. Before you seek out more training it might be a good idea to research the different ways that affiliate marketing is done and how to generate traffic. Then you can concentrate on learning the specific method that fits your budget and current skills. It is always great to have multiple ways of marketing but not as a newbie. As a new marketer it is best to focus on one method and one method only. If you are struggling or not reaching your goals find an expert in that specific area.
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    • Profile picture of the author Julie10
      Originally Posted by Janice Sperry View Post

      Since you already call yourself an affiliate marketer at least you have decided the general direction you want to go to earn money online. There are many, many ways that affiliate marketers actually market. Before you seek out more training it might be a good idea to research the different ways that affiliate marketing is done and how to generate traffic. Then you can concentrate on learning the specific method that fits your budget and current skills. It is always great to have multiple ways of marketing but not as a newbie. As a new marketer it is best to focus on one method and one method only. If you are struggling or not reaching your goals find an expert in that specific area.
      I agree with Janice. Focus on one thing in the affiliate marketing arena that will work for you. It can be very overwhelming. If you find you need help, then find someone who is doing what it is you want to do, and can show you how to do it. I am new too. I stalked here for a long time, but finally focused on what I want to do. From my lurking, I have 3 different veteran warriors that I follow, and with their assistance, I am finally getting my ball rolling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
    Take it from someone who has coached people for 7+ years, some people just flat need coaching no matter what. Others, well, they would have been successful with or without a coach because they just get it and would succeed anyway.

    Then there are yet others who no coaching in the world would save... no product would save... no course would save... no marketing forum would save... no nothing on planet Earth would save because of a lack mentality. I'm serious.

    There's a percentage of people who just have stinking thinking and got it wrong. They keep looking on the outside for someone else to do it for them, or they just find yet someone else to blame or complain about... when the key is to put ALL the responsibility on their own shoulders. Those people are who coaches fire or try to weed/filter out or get rid of somehow. Toxic.

    Fortunately, that percentage is small IMO. Most here are ambitious enough to fit into the other categories... which are people who have even a slightly positive attitude and who can benefit from coaching/mentoring.

    I think I believe in coaching/mentoring because I get mentored and coached by others and it's made such a tremendous difference in my life. I'll give you one quick example.

    A mentor of mine showed me (years ago) that if I added a OTO right after people opted into my squeeze page, that OTO would cover the cost of paid traffic (break even right there).

    I tried it and it changed my entire life. How many years would I have had to stump my toe trying things to one day finally figure it out. Lots of people do that now, but back then, it was practically a miracle technique for me.

    I could tell you tons of other breakthroughs like that that came from me getting mentored. Anyway that's my take, but my advice is to go into it with faith and positive abundant attitude and not lack mentality... plus realize the coach is not going to do it all for you, so put the responsibilities on your own shoulders.

    Lastly, I recommend you look into Jarrett Stephenson. I've known him for many years and have watched him succeed big time. He's dialed in and knows his stuff. I'm not sure if he is taking clients right now or not, but he's pretty magical at helping people succeed.

    Respectfully,

    Eric Louviere
    PS -- If you decide to not go with a mentor, then my next piece of advice is to model and reverse engineer others who are already successful. Just model what they do and examine them very closely. Be like a private investigator and analyze marketers or businesses you want to model and be like. We all copy each other in this market. IF we see something new or that someone pioneered something, we try it ourselves. Modeling is one of the quickest ways to succeed in any business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    A mentor can be a good option. Just make sure you follow everything you tell them. And a good one will more than likely charge you for their services. Because nothing frustrates a mentor more than giving free advice and you not implementing them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shane N
    Eric,

    You hit the nail right on the head!

    We have a few things in common as I too have been helping others for the better part of 7 years and I also appreciate the value of a coach/mentor since I've had some in my life that have made tremendous impacts on me. Positive ones of course!

    Yes, there's a conflict of interest here because I am also a coach, but whether someone becomes my student or not is completely separate from the fact that coaching works.

    Why do think most successful people, athletes, actors, models, singers, musicians and world class fighters all have coaches?

    Best,
    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author meepo
    Read this article to answer your questions: How To Find Mentors | Thought Catalog

    Finding and building relationships with GOOD mentors can be hard, and often requires the following of you:

    1) MORE EFFORT THAN YOU REALIZE
    2) POSSIBLE BLOOD
    3) DEFINITE SWEAT
    4) PERHAPS SOME TEARS
    5) LESS MONEY THAN YOU THINK

    have fun!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    I've had some great mentors through the years... never paid a nickel to
    any of them nor did any of them ask for money. Mentoring is free... coaching,
    on the other hand, is a valuable service that can be quite expensive.

    Find a mentor who has a financial interest in your success. I've mentored
    many people over time and never collected a dime from any of them. I did,
    however, have a small financial interest in their success so I was motivated
    to teach them the best stuff I have.

    That's how it should work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Your success does not depend on a 'mentor'.

    Your success depends on only one person - You.

    The majority of the people pursuing this industry spend more time looking for a leader and good opportunity than they do actually building their legacy's online.

    A top earning mentor usually would tell everyone to work hard, learn the skills necessary and acquire the 'right' mindset.

    Then go work your ass off just like I did and you will start getting results like me.

    And most of the mentor 'seekers', what do they do?

    Most don't listen anyway. If they aren't told what they want to be told, they bail, take some time off and begin the whole process all over again later.
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  • Profile picture of the author az wan
    "Take Action" is the best mentor.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slin
    You don't need a mentor, I never really used one.

    Try to make connections with other marketers, join in Joint adventures if you can, use your head, look out at what is available, find an idea, create a website, and then promote it.

    Easy as pie. Well not really, I can't bake pie all that well.

    Easy as internet marketing
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    • Profile picture of the author meepo
      Originally Posted by Slin View Post

      You don't need a mentor.
      Bullshit. Just 'cause you never used one doesn't mean OP doesn't need one.
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