Why is it so HARD to be successful at MMO?

First,
Define: hard
Define: many people
Define: successful
Define: making money online
Then ask again.

It's not - people just make it 'harder' than it needs to be.

Traffic ~~> Squeeze Page ~~> Sales Funnel ~~> PROFIT.

Rinse and repeat.

-Google's ever changing algo
-Lack of time
-Competition. Using over saturated methods.
-Paid traffic requiring lots of time, testing and patience to make a positive roi so people get discouraged early on
- Another would be not sticking to one method for long enough. When you see threads on the WF where people say they've been trying in IM for 1+, 2+ years with no success, they often say they've tried many different methods, so they haven't mastered anything.

Nothing worth pursuing is easy in life. You have to work hard for the good things in life. I would suggest you try one or two things and choose what is working and exciting for you and scale that up.

Because they focus on the money part and not the delivering value to the customer to be rewarded with their money part.

Most of the whining posts here are along of the lines of 'I've made no money by doing something lazy and without value that the customer (shockingly) did not value, why?'

It is so hard for many people to be successful when it comes to making money online because it takes a good amount of money to launch a site that will really pull in the profits.

There is also the cost of having to advertise the site in order to get people to come to your site.

As Devid said it will all depend on the person and it is so much like other things, I might need to read something 6 or 7 times to understand it where someone else might read it once. I might put up a web page in a week that looks like crap where someone else has a very artistic eye and makes something that is very eye catching in a day. So a lot of it just comes down to understanding it. Many how to make money on line courses give you a lot of info but don't fill in all the blanks they seem to leave some important things out and if you can't figure them out your done so as far as being hard it is hard in some ways because it requires a lot of time and effort but for others who just get it, it is simple they know what move to make and when and just do it where as some have said others complicate things by over thinking. It is a difficult question to answer.

Because people lack determination and will, also they don't know the real technique.. In internet marketing, we convince and serve people not the marketing strategies that we used to learn from the internet. SEO, ads, sponsors, etc. All that are important, but we all forget to gain trust instead from people and make a good quality content. Why I seemed so sure about this? Look at those viral stuffs happening online, most of them are made by teenagers, have they thought of money when they did that? No! Because what is in their minds is to amuse people.. So we should think on how to make people happy, not how to earn money.. Money follows when you serve people, that's my motto.

From my own experience!
1. When you listen to the wrong people
2. Your mind set is the most important thing when it comes to making money online or building a business.
The amount of income that you will make is based on the amount of value you put into the market place.

Not sticking to one proven money making system for long enough and shining object syndrome are couple of reasons that make it hard to make money online.

Most people you meet who have been successful, whether it be at sports, acting, making money online, real estate, whatever, will all tell you they worked very hard to get there.

It takes hard work to be successful at ANYTHING. MMO is just another example of that. The hard workers always eventually succeed and the lazy ones don't. That's just life. You get out exactly what you put in. Put in mediocre effort and you'll always get mediocre results.

I personally think its because lots of people have the wrong kind of expectations when it comes to online money making. perhaps because of all the hypes and misinformation that make them believe its easy to make money online.


So, they give it a try for a while, they don't make any money of course, since with most methods it takes time and consistent hard work to make money. They then jump to another method and so on.

If they would instead focus on perfecting one method at a time, their time and effort would payoff much better.

People confuse two things.

Making money online is simple. But it isn't easy.

It takes a lot of work. There is always people who will hit $2,000 / first month. As there are people who will win $100,000,000 in lottery. I still wouldn't consider lottery a viable strategy for MMO

OK! These were my reasons when I couldn't even earn a buck online 5 years a go.

• Procrastination: self-explain! I always delayed with my stuffs.
• Information Overloaded: I learned and read many stuffs until those information took over me.
• Not Doing Action: OK! I made plans and projects; jumped from one to another without taking any action at all.
• Perfectionism: perfection is good, but I was too excessive to be perfect. This led me to not doing any action, too.
• Lack of Resource: I was too poor to afford to spend on the online resources.
• Lack of Knowledge: I was a noob so that I didn't know a thing in MMO, but I wanted to MMO.
• Choosing The Wrong Techniques: I didn't care about the techniques but the greed. As soon as I saw that a techniques had made someone millions, I did it with the wrong technique from the start.
• Jump From One Methods To Another Quickly: If one method wasn't earned me in a little while, I went to another one.
• Not Focusing: similar to the point above, I liked doing many different things in a go. I failed hard with all
• Not Split Testing: Sometimes the method was good, but I was just doing it the same and the same again and again without splitting to have the maximum results.
• No Time: Labor worker like me was very busy and had no time to do something else.
• Not Willing To Spend: I thought that MMO was just to gain without spending a dime, so I had no mood to spend for the success.
• Think That It's Easy: MMO is not easy in my opinion like other business, too. Yet, it's realistic to earn online.

I think they don't focus on one niche/product and using the multiple sources of traffics. For starters, it is advice to promote one product using one traffic source first. Work from that, and then go the next product and next traffic source. This is to build experiences

Define vague and meaningless?

selling sh** to newbies is not a long term business module.

Lt's face it...mot people shouldn't even attempt running a business. You simply can't teach common sense.

One book will answer your question wholly: Think and Grow Rich
Think and Grow Rich

It's hard to be successful at anything, not just mmo. The "why?" part of it is unique to the individual, but as someone once pointed out, the typical excuses are four: Lack of Time, Lack of Focus, Lack of Money, Lack of Traffic.

Many people fail because they buy into the, "Make $10,000 per month working only 30 minutes per week in your pajamas!!" crap. They think that this is possible, so they decide that they want to MMO.

Making money online is a business, and if you don't treat it like one, you'll never have the level of success that you want.

Michael

Hi there

I suppose lots of people find things hard depending on their circumstances - and i wonder if those who we deem experts in the field would say that they find their now 'expertise' easy?
Perhaps they still find it very tough, but are willing to do what it takes to be the best and through working hard have achieved the ability to make things look and seem simple to the rest of us?

I'm sure an Olympic athlete wouldn't say their sport is easy just because they are a champion - in some ways it then becomes tougher than ever!!

Great question to kick things off for this post though.

Tonio

The failure rate in this industry is in the high 90%

The other 3% that are making money, are the ones selling you crap about "how to make money".

No Frank is actually making a good point here. You have to define 'successful' to ask this question. For example I can show anyone how to make $5 right now, one time. So does that mean they are successful? If so then being successful is super easy. Or does it take $5 a day to be successful? Or does it take $50 a day (a little harder) or $500 a day (hard). Without defining what you consider 'success' saying something like "Why is it hard to be successful' is a pointless question.

What exactly is the point of this post here at all? Trying to be clever? You didnt. Vague and Meaningless have very specific definitions. I suggest you use Google if you dont know what they mean. Successful and Hard do not as they are opinion based and must be defined by the user.

Best answer here.

To the OP - its not that hard. People just lack the patience.

Because in IM there is no feedback loop especially if you are not tracking everything. In offline business you can notice what is working for you and what is not, you can read body language etc.

But in IM there are so many things that you need to get right to make a sale. For example you have got a site up and you think you are doing everything right like driving traffic and all, but still you don't make a single sale.

Reason can be many like your message is not strong enough or may be the traffic you are driving is not targeted enough, but without a mentor you won't be able to judge what exactly you are doing wrong.

Very simple.

They don't have the discipline, patience, determination to do what it takes to reach that level.

Most people quit upon their first failures.

This is the reason most people aren't successful in many other aspects of life, not just MMO.

I too believe it's a matter of perception. Of where you are in the pond. It can be as simple as setting up a new business over a dinner (and become successful as hell) if you have the right person in front of you or trying, failing and jumping up to the next best thing.

People get tired, bored, sick of all of it but in the same time people get excited. So hard for you might not be hard for me and hard for me, could not be so hard for you.

It's hard because people believe:

they can buy legitimate traffic on fiverr
they can use spun and spammed articles to get backlinks
they don't realize what a waste of time SEO is compared to many other traffic methods
they don't realize that buying "clicks" is most often a BS proposition
they think offering as little to customers as possible is smart
they actually believe there are "systems" that will stuff their bank accounts overnight
they think they can buy "great" articles for $5
they listen to BS advice on forums from people who haven't made any money yet
they ask the wrong questions
they think they're actually fooling people with phony likes and followers
they don't realize that business is simply finding a market where people need, want and can afford something and then providing that product
they make things MUCH harder than necessary

Many people don't put in the time to really learn how to do it. If they do they are putting time in the wrong direction. Find a mentor. Realize it is not a get rich quick scheme and you will be successful. Pick one strategy and become really good at it before you move onto another.

Because people take importance in the wrong things, people don't take action as they should, and don't understand that online business and internet marketing is no different than other forms of business.

It is usually the get rich quick schemes and high expectations from make money online opportunities that people get sucked into because of the sales methods of some internet marketers; who sell to newbies interested in making money online.

Many people lack these things:
Audacity,
proven game plan
direction
motivation
Gusto - guts
durability
stickability
burning desire
knowledge/ information
ACTION

Most people when they step into MMO niche, they try to Make Money Online by teaching how to make money online without any real proof or experience. they just try to follow successful marketers who are doing this already...

You have to know your own stuff before you to teach others.. If your are expert in something, then I don't thing you will have any problem in teaching that stuff to others..
that's how this all stuff works

It comes down to this:

It takes a certain kind of people to be successful at any task not just MMO, it comes down to two kinds of people in this world.

Those who play to win

And those tho play not to lose

Imagine that Making money online is a game of football, and one team is playing to win, and the other just doesn't want to lose. The team that plays to win may take risks, they will take hits, and go the extra mile to win, while the other team will be conservative, stick to the plan, avoid getting hurt, and never take risks.

People also do that with money, the people who succeed at making money online play to win, they take risks and most of the times they have failed many times but they always get back up.

And the people who fail or even fail to try are playing to just not lose, they never take risks, and the moment something goes wrong they throw in the towel and run back to the "security" of their 9 to 5 JOB.

You're job as a marketer is to find the people who are willing to play to win and inspire them to go the extra mile.

Because the bad word has spread about this MMO niche, where people scam and cheat and that in-experienced people are running such campagins.
But there are still few experienced people around, but hard to find.

The competition is high, but I find that hard work always lets you float to the top sooner or later.

Why? Because IMO, everyone is looking for the holy grail, the magic bullet - something for nothing.

This does not exist!

Learn, apply, and profit! That's the formula. Taking action is what separates the pretenders from the money makers

It's hard because there is no barrier to entry and most people try the easiest thing with no plan. Also most people don't know what they are talking about so newbies are lead astray from the start or tricked into buying something.

The biggest market for IM is newbies people buying get rich quick schemes. That is where the real money is.

The biggest key is to stay focused, continue to learn and continue to grown. It really isn't hard you just need to continue to stay focused through the good times and hard times.

I believe if you give people what they want or what they are looking for, in turn you will get what you want. Value is the key!

It's not hard at all. How did you get that idea? Who told you that? The real truth is that massive wholesale failure in IM is a misconception that's kept alive only by people repeating it for their own perverse pleasure.

I'm looking at the people who've replied to this thread and I see loads of success. It's all around you and there's probably dozens of great methods that work within your reach right now. I think if you defined what you mean by "success" it would help. If you consider making money as success then 90%+ of IMers (who take it even moderately seriously) are a success.

Making money online is actually quite a simple straight forward process. The main problem (I think) is that no one defines how much they'd be happy with and so are endlessly searching for more and more and more and it feels like they just can't push through to become successful when in fact they've been successful (at making money) all along.

As long as your definition of success isn't "making a million passive dollars a month" and it's more like "making money" you'll find success is all around you (especially in this forum) and well within your reach right now. The problem is not if you can make money using the internet (most of us are) but what method are you going to settle down on.

There are as many ways to make money as there are people and websites (a bit of an exaggeration but I hope you get my point) so I can see a confusion problem but having so much choice is not a bad thing as most people would prefer too much choice over not enough. It may take you a while to find what method works best for you but there's definitely plenty of methods to chose.

Just try to remember that the only way to make money is to sell goods or services; either your own or someone else's. Focus on ways of providing real value and money will find it's way to you and if you can find a trickle you can then use accepted techniques to scale up. The internet is really good like that.

Don't believe the misery/failure hype. It's largely over-stated and really easy to repeat without facts to back it up. The reality is far more cheerful, positive and exciting.

Let me ask you a different question you should ask yourself every single day from now on:

It's "hard" for most people for 3 reasons:

1) They don't have the right mindset
2) They don't take action consistently
3) They don't stick with it long enough

You need to be committed to all 3 to generate results and make money.

Because some people don't have enough knowledge or skills.

To get good quality traffic it requires money, you have to learn to build a sales funnel, learn good copy-writing, and be in a position where you can afford to lose money while testing.

It's hard to be successful at i.m. because it's difficult. Most people that get into i.m. do it because they think it is easy, which pretty much sets them up for failure. Once you understand that it takes hard work to be successful and you accept that and take action, your chances of being successful will be a lot higher.

Because it is still a business.

why is this place full of idiots?

"How do I make $10 a day"?
"How do I promote my S.E.O. book"?
"How do spam he net and make $1million+"
"Help I am broke, despite my sig. claiming I make $5000 a day"

This really is the Ghetto.

waste of time...

If you want to make money online, the very first thing you will need is a "Success Mindset", and this is where most people fail.

"The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

There are many reasons for this...
• People think that there is fast money to be made online and when they do not get this fast money, they give up
• People jump from one program to another always thinking that the OTHER program is the better one - the grass is always greener on the other side
• People are not prepared to put in the hard work that is required to make money online
• People are just too lazy
• People prefer leading their ratty lives instead of taking challenges
• People get distracted very easily with things happening all around them
• People lose focus very fast
• People forget that it is a business and they have to treat it like one
Just some of the many reasons ...EXCUSES...why people fail to MMO
Regards

IM isn't hard.

I can go on for years and list about 10,000 reasons why people fail at IM.
But what it all comes down to, imo is the IQ bell curve.

The majority of the population is at the peak of the curve, which basically means the high majority of people are of average intelligence. Another way to word it is the high majority is of "average stupidity".

The people who I see succeeding, they all possess a unique blend of intelligence. Like social intelligence, linguistic intelligence, interpersonal intelligence, mathametical / logical intelligence, etc etc.

And laziness plays a huge role too. Because if you lack skills, and lack certain forms of intelligence ... quite frankly, you are ****ed.

I've seen some younger people come into IM, and become successful really quick. And to me, its always obvious why. They are usually very creative people, but they are also very organized and focused.

And you have to understand, creativity and organization are on 2 complete opposite sides of the spectrum.

People who are extremely creative, the artistic types, don't tend to be very organized people. But people who are gifted organizers... don't tend to be very creative.

In my case, I'm more creative than I am organized.

So one of my main problems is channeling my creativity in an organized way. I can work on 1 youtube video for 6 days straight. Or the design of a website for 6 months straight. And I wind up wasting a lot of time.

This is why every successful business has "creators and organizers". The creators innovate, they make new trends, the organizers tell them when they're wasting too much time, they keep them focused on the end goal, and most importantly they set deadlines. While on the other hand, creative people suck at setting deadlines. They rarely ever look at the clock.

So as a marketer, you need to be both these people at once. And its not always easy to do.

More importantly, because I don't want to rant forever, Eban Pagan has a seminar online called "Get Altitude". I don't like advocating piracy, but I downloaded his seminar illegally a few years ago. Its 15 DVDs, each DVD is 2 hours long, and it will save you about 10 years worth of learning.

It is 30 hours of premium quality, information packed content. It was one of the most valuable seminars I ever saw, and I have actually rewatched all 30 hours about 2-3 times.

On top of that, you need to use "modeling" to your advantage. A great way to learn is by copying people who are successful. And I hate to bash Warrior Forum, but you can't copy people on here because most of them want to charge you xxx amount of money for some shit WSO that covers .0001% of everything you really need to know. Occasionally you find nuggets of gold here and there, but you never get to see a person succeed from step 1, all the way to success.

On blackhatworld, there is an "im journey" section. And I honestly wish WF had one because its one of the most valuable places on the entire internet for newbie marketers. But once again, if people ever ran a long term, profitable case study on here, they would probably delete their thread immediately then sell it off as a WSO and leave out 90% of the details.

On here, everything is fragmented, and for a newbie, it can be impossible to piece everything together. Their only real option is to buy WSOs. But the WSO section is so infiltrated with trash, that they are more likely to go broke trying to find someone to model, as opposed to going to a more charitable forum that actually believes in helping people out.

Again, I don't want to bash Warrior Forum.. or dare I say, sound like a socialist. I love capitalism and I love WF. I've learned some great things on here. But some of the most practical / profitable things I learned were not from this forum. And when you step back and really turn up your radar, you see that WF is about 95% newbies, they are like minnows swimming around aimlessly (like sperm do). Then 5% of the forum is sharks circling those newbies on a daily basis just waiting for the faintest scent of blood.

I hate to leave off on this note. But I think you catch my drift. Get organized, find the right information, in its complete form. Then model it from beginning to end. Thats really the best advice I can give any newbie.

-Red

No it's not hard. The problem with this industry and for those pursuing it, is that people come here and expect to make quick money with minimal efforts. In any other industry, people know that there is a price for success. I don't know why they come here and expect the world in exchange for minimal effort.

People think that there is some 'secret'.

The real secret is there really isn't one but this...

Perseverance is the Key!

People want a quick and easy solution to their problems.

When they realize it isn't so quick and easy, they try to jump onto something else which also isn't quick and easy, starting the entire process all over again. I know I've been there so many times.

Because for the majority of people...MMO is NOT the niche they should be in! Everyone has a unique skill set in something...and that is what they should be offering and not so-called money-making programs.

* Because making money online is difficult. It depends on knowledge, skills, JV partners, affiliates, tools, money, and a lot more. The impression that making money online is easy is totally false.

* Because you have many competitors who are very powerful and won't let you threaten their business.

* Because most people are lazy and ignorant, but they try to make money online because they believe that they can find a way to mislead the public and sell their horrible products, or find a way to sell other people's horrible products thanks to their marketing techniques. This method works in the beginning, but its success doesn't last long.

It's not any harder than starting a traditional business but the perception that it should be easier and require less investment makes it seem so.

There is only one reason. :p
to much shiny object outside there.
Get addicted

MMO is like any other industry online, it has those within it that are serious and can add real value to the marketplace, then there is others that just see an opportunity and are going through the motions.

I feel once done right, anyone can succeed in IM as it is such a broad industry, however as "rohit36" mentioned you must have experience in order to be able to teach/coach or create informational products that your audience will that useful and put into action.

Like all things most people give up once they do not get the results they desire, (I call this the PAIN) no matter the industry all successful people need to go through this, I do feel that this is compounded by the misleading, outdated and sometime poor quality of products that are within our marketplace.

I guess not every product will be good that's just standard right? In order for the whole IM/MMO niche to improve all those that educate must pledge to keep pace with the market, otherwise it will only go in the wrong direction and those entering it will find it even more difficult to succeed.



Hope this Helps!

That's a myth!

Making money [online or offline] would always involve work that many are not willing to do. By WORK I mean hard, smart and goal oriented.

Anyone who does WORK does make money. PERIOD!

Now, knowing what works and what doesn't is a totally different ball game altogether, but that again requires the urge to "know".

So, it all boils down to how much you are willing to put in [not necessarily financial investment - a lot of methods don't need any investment at all and still work] before calling it quits.

That's because most of them are not passionate about what they do!

Know what you are doing & never give up, following the two lines don't hurt a lot, but in every niche, the sentences are true

maybe have many reasons
1 do not build effective funnel
2 do not use effective seo method like guest post
3 always find free, cheap method or traffic . waste time
4 do not create your own product , always be a buyer
5 zero-cost or cheap = need more time =slow result=slow success