Is it REALLY possible to make money doing nothing?

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The answer is YES!

Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.

Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.


*** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

- WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amazing Dave
    Well, I'm confused...

    First, you're saying you can make money doing nothing...

    And after that, you're saying you have to work in order to make money.

    I'm sorry, but this post makes no sense at all... (At least to me...)

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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by Amazing Dave View Post

      Well, I'm confused...

      First, you're saying you can make money doing nothing...

      And after that, you're saying you have to work in order to make money.

      I'm sorry, but this post makes no sense at all... (At least to me...)

      ~ Dave
      I edited it a bit. Does that make more sense now?

      The point is that you have to work hard to reach the point of making passive income, BUT...it's totally possible.
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      • Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

        I edited it a bit. Does that make more sense now?

        The point is that you have to work hard to reach the point of making passive income, BUT...it's totally possible.
        Did you read your own title?

        Is it REALLY possible to make money doing nothing?

        And then your post goes into a bit of a ramble about you can totes make it if you just put your mind to it and work super hard (and that main idea is a problem all on its own, see: "take massive action!"). So one of the following things has happened:

        1. Clickbaiting.

        2. You don't understand writing.

        3. You forgot what you meant to write after writing the title.
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        • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
          Originally Posted by TheRockstarWriter View Post

          Did you read your own title?

          Is it REALLY possible to make money doing nothing?

          And then your post goes into a bit of a ramble about you can totes make it if you just put your mind to it and work super hard (and that main idea is a problem all on its own, see: "take massive action!"). So one of the following things has happened:

          1. Clickbaiting.

          2. You don't understand writing.

          3. You forgot what you meant to write after writing the title.

          I guess it IS a mess. I was trying to be helpful, I don't have anything to sell.

          And I guess the title could be better worded to say "It's possible to making residual income".
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          • Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

            I was trying to be helpful
            Hey, that's an inherently good thing. It's also a responsibility, so make sure you really know what you're trying to say and that you have accurately conveyed that message before you hit submit.

            Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

            And I guess the title could be better worded to say "It's possible to making residual income".
            There you go. Although to avoid being just more "go get 'em" white noise among a bunch of people who say the same thing but couldn't back it up, I'd offer up proof that you know what you're talking about, or just post an inspirational quote on a nature background .
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            • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
              Originally Posted by TheRockstarWriter View Post

              Hey, that's an inherently good thing. It's also a responsibility, so make sure you really know what you're trying to say and that you have accurately conveyed that message before you hit submit.



              There you go. Although to avoid being just more "go get 'em" white noise among a bunch of people who say the same thing but couldn't back it up, I'd offer up proof that you know what you're talking about, or just post an inspirational quote on a nature background .

              You know...I understood myself perfectly fine when I wrote it. It isn't until somebody else points something out to you that you realize others see it differently. I was much more focused on how I felt and the message I wanted to give rather than how someone else might perceive it.

              In regards to showing proof...I'm trying to inspire, not brag or sell advice. And no way in hell would I ever want someone to be able to connect my WF alias to who I really am on the internet (my web presence pulls over 200k-uniques a month). I enjoy being anonymous right now.
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              • Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

                You know...I understood myself perfectly fine when I wrote it. It isn't until somebody else points something out to you that you realize others see it differently. I was much more focused on how I felt and the message I wanted to give rather than how someone else might perceive it.
                Somebody willing to admit they're not perfect? You win the Internet (no sarcasm).

                Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

                In regards to showing proof...I'm trying to inspire, not brag or sell advice. And no way in hell would I ever want someone to be able to connect my WF alias to who I really am on the internet (my web presence pulls over 200k-uniques a day). I enjoy being anonymous right now.
                To each their own, I guess. My personal view is that once you step outside of talking ideas/theory and start saying "you can do it, and I back that up with my experience" it is probably good idea to prove you had the experience. This is the Internet, where anyone can be anybody (as you're well aware with your other personality).
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                • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
                  Originally Posted by TheRockstarWriter View Post

                  Somebody willing to admit they're not perfect? You win the Internet (no sarcasm).



                  To each their own, I guess. My personal view is that once you step outside of talking ideas/theory and start saying "you can do it, and I back that up with my experience" it is probably good idea to prove you had the experience. This is the Internet, where anyone can be anybody (as you're well aware with your other personality).
                  I think if I had to "prove" my experience everytime I wanted to share advice or inspire/help others, I would probably be too lazy to do it. You're talking to a guy who makes money doing nothing. Even if you wanted to pay me to actually explain stuff, I probably wouldn't want to do that either. I just can't be bothered!

                  Good luck to you!
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              • Profile picture of the author dewayneboyd
                Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

                You know...I understood myself perfectly fine when I wrote it. It isn't until somebody else points something out to you that you realize others see it differently. I was much more focused on how I felt and the message I wanted to give rather than how someone else might perceive it.

                In regards to showing proof...I'm trying to inspire, not brag or sell advice. And no way in hell would I ever want someone to be able to connect my WF alias to who I really am on the internet (my web presence pulls over 200k-uniques a day). I enjoy being anonymous right now.
                You call yourself a monetization designer, yet you are making 9K per month from 6 million unique visitors? LOL. That ain't very good, man. You're either not telling the whole story or you are LOL bad at monetization.

                And yes, you are trying to sell advice. You say right in your sig that you are a coach.
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                • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
                  Originally Posted by dewayneboyd View Post

                  You call yourself a monetization designer, yet you are making 9K per month from 6 million unique visitors? LOL. That ain't very good, man. You're either not telling the whole story or you are LOL bad at monetization.

                  And yes, you are trying to sell advice. You say right in your sig that you are a coach.
                  Hahaha...I'm no IM expert, my friend. I just figured out how to make the money at last. AND DUDE! I just realized, I screwed up the numbers. That was supposed to be 200k uniques/month. I fixed it just now. So either way you look at it, I'm not the best but I think I'm ok with my results regardless.

                  And don't you worry about my signature, ok? I can assure you it's not my business or income to sell IM information. That signature is there dissuade people from asking me for free advice...and at the very least, offer me tons of money before asking me...so far, it hasn't happened. But don't you worry, I'm not competing with any of you Warriors with WSO's or whatever you call it. You can even click on my site and see that I'm offering nothing there, either.
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              • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
                Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

                And no way in hell would I ever want someone to be able to connect my WF alias to who I really am on the internet (my web presence pulls over 200k-uniques a day). I enjoy being anonymous right now.
                that is a very smart move - I wish I had been as smart back in the day but live and learn!
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                • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
                  Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

                  that is a very smart move - I wish I had been as smart back in the day but live and learn!
                  Absolutely, Karen. It's important to value privacy and being able to live without having to constantly be the BRAND that people know you for. I'm at the point where anybody could Google me, talk about me, people in my "niche" (or industry) are recognizing me on the streets. It sounds flattering at first, and then starts to be a bit annoying, and then finally you feel obligated to say hello and smile and chat with every stranger simply because they recognized you from your work.

                  I have a famous brother, too....and he tells me it takes him 1-2 hours to say BYE when he leaves the room because everyone wants a piece of him. Weird stuff, I tell you.
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            • Profile picture of the author Walter Cyclid
              Originally Posted by TheRockstarWriter View Post

              There you go. Although to avoid being just more "go get 'em" white noise among a bunch of people who say the same thing but couldn't back it up, I'd offer up proof that you know what you're talking about,
              To that I would say why should he offer up proof. Nobody else in IM does.

              Seriously though, I have been researching and working with many different IM marketing methods and monetization models for years now, and I can honestly say not one IM guru so far has shown me proof that their marketing methods or procedures work. That doesn't seem to stop too many of them from saying they've proven something though. LOL
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              • Profile picture of the author Black Prince
                Originally Posted by Walter Cyclid View Post

                Seriously though, I have been researching and working with many different IM marketing methods and monetization models for years now, and I can honestly say not one IM guru so far has shown me proof that their marketing methods or procedures work. That doesn't seem to stop too many of them from saying they've proven something though. LOL
                The problem is that 'proof' can be easily faked. I know some (former) Warriors have been busted for getting lazy with fake Paypal screenshots. Even if photo grabs aren't faked, usually there's no telling the source of the sales.

                But that is not to say it is all fake. The thing is ... anybody who has been around the IM game for a while knows how it works: traffic, offer, conversions. Once you really get your head around that concept, you don't really need proof. You either get how a tactic/strategy can improve that formula or not.

                For example, lots of marketers who were around in the mid-2000s will tell you about the Bum Marketing Method. It basically involved finding specific keywords that hit a formula, writing articles, submitting them to EzineArticles, and banking with an affiliate link in the author bio. And it worked.

                Was it the greatest strategy for a long term business? No. But it should have shown people that if you get targeted traffic to an offer, you can make money. That has not changed in the years that have passed. And if anything, it is easier than ever to find that targeted traffic and set up shop.

                What I'm saying here is that you can even learn from those 'gurus' who do not provide proof. They are clearly making money by driving targeted traffic to their product. That is the only secret in internet marketing. After that, it's just about tactics to increase that traffic or boost that conversion rate (and thus, your bottom line.)
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      • Profile picture of the author ColdWritingLLC
        Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post


        The point is that you have to work hard to reach the point of making passive income..
        And our point is that you started your post by saying it was possible to make money doing nothing and you go on to explain what things you have to do to make money. So your first sentence and your title are in direct opposition to your intended post.
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    • Profile picture of the author Will Edwards
      Originally Posted by Amazing Dave View Post

      Well, I'm confused...

      First, you're saying you can make money doing nothing...

      And after that, you're saying you have to work in order to make money.

      I'm sorry, but this post makes no sense at all... (At least to me...)

      ~ Dave
      It is DEFINITELY possible to make money doing NOTHING - absolutely correct.

      However, you first have to put in a lot of work.

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    • Profile picture of the author colibri2014
      What he really means is that he worked and learned and made a lot of mistakes and over 6 years gradually built a business that is now an ASSET that gives passive income whether he works or not. That is the ideal situation for ANY business. Build it over time so it makes money whether you work or not. PERFECT. But there is a lot of upfront work.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnFinch
      Originally Posted by Amazing Dave View Post

      Well, I'm confused...

      First, you're saying you can make money doing nothing...

      And after that, you're saying you have to work in order to make money.

      I'm sorry, but this post makes no sense at all... (At least to me...)

      ~ Dave
      He was trying to be a little like those NLP seminar guys.
      You can make money with doing nothing, after you made everything.
      Now you can sit back and relax.
      THis is very subjective since if you love what you`re doing you can`t stop "working".
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  • Profile picture of the author cferfland247
    Doesn't make sense to your first answer and then you come up with a magical idea. So how it can be doing nothing as you already worked to come up with an idea?
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  • Profile picture of the author ColdWritingLLC
    This, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of how quality writing is more than just throwing buzz words around and expecting your audience to go along with you.

    The two posts above me are both on point - not only is it not possible to make money while doing nothing (as, by definition, the act of making money is something) but you then go on to say that not only is possible but only through not doing 'nothing'.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    SO basically after you worked your ASS off you made money..... now you don't have to do anything to make money?

    Still doesn't make sense.

    I'm doing nothing right now and made nothing, but yesterday I worked my ASS off and made money...lol...Make sense?

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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by JasonB View Post

      SO basically after you worked your ASS off, now you don't have to do anything to make money online?

      Still doesn't make sense.

      I'm doing nothing right now and made nothing, but yesterday I worked my ASS off and made money...lol...Make sense?

      JB
      YES EXACTLY...I am (now) making money everyday doing NOTHING.
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  • Profile picture of the author John J M
    Ah guys, get off your high horses.

    The guy is just trying to say it's a good idea to work hard upfront, create multiple income streams, and I'll add outsource whenever possible.

    That will bring you to a place in which you have to do a lot less work. You'll still have to manage everything, so "no work" would be false, but the point is understood.
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
      "Work now. Prosper later and work less"?
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      • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
        I know what the OP meant -

        Whatever happened to kindness? Have we become so cynical that we think everyone has ulterior motives?

        yes, you can make money doing nothing once you do whatever you have to do to set up your passive income streams - it's been proven time and time again -
        I am working on that quietly myself but I am still providing a service to existing clients while I build that passive income. Fact: it doesn't happen over-night unless you have a huge advertising budget to finance the best copy-writing, the best paid advertising. etc.

        here is the most important truth:
        it takes some money to make money - and the more money you have, the more you can leverage that money to make more - that is the real secret that none of the so-called gurus will ever teach you.

        Now that is not to say you can't do it on the cheap. I know full well you can - but that way is far harder - and a longer road to freedom. And sometimes you are left to wonder if it's all worth it.

        yes, it is
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        • Profile picture of the author datingworld
          Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post

          I know what the OP meant -

          Whatever happened to kindness? Have we become so cynical that we think everyone has ulterior motives?

          yes, you can make money doing nothing once you do whatever you have to do to set up your passive income streams - it's been proven time and time again -
          I am working on that quietly myself but I am still providing a service to existing clients while I build that passive income. Fact: it doesn't happen over-night unless you have a huge advertising budget to finance the best copy-writing, the best paid advertising. etc.

          here is the most important truth:
          it takes some money to make money - and the more money you have, the more you can leverage that money to make more - that is the real secret that none of the so-called gurus will ever teach you.

          Now that is not to say you can't do it on the cheap. I know full well you can - but that way is far harder - and a longer road to freedom. And sometimes you are left to wonder if it's all worth it.

          yes, it is
          Thanks Karen for posting; you have some very interesting points in it.

          OP might have not used correct words but Yes it is possible to make residual income without doing anything BUT to reach to get that residual income, you have to work, you have to sweat and you have to spend money.

          I personally have a residual income which doesnt require me to do anything but it took me year to reach to this point and I know many more people enjoying decent residual income.

          Good Luck to all
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        • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
          Originally Posted by Karen Blundell View Post


          here is the most important truth:
          it takes some money to make money - and the more money you have, the more you can leverage that money to make more - that is the real secret that none of the so-called gurus will ever teach you.
          That "real secret" is simply a truism, not a secret. How can the "gurus" keep something so obvious and self evident to themselves? Now can we talk about retiring the word "guru", which surely has to be one of the most overused words on the forum? While we're at it, how about scaling back on the almost as tired term "secret"?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Building that initial skill set and putting it all together into something that makes money is where a lot of people who are willing to work hard get stuck, which is why outsourcing from the beginning for those who can afford it is sometimes the best option. But even outsourcing takes some skill.

    I'm one of those who don't think it's possible for everyone to make it to the point where they can quit their job.

    Some people lack comprehension.
    Some people are just too lazy.
    Some people are too scatter-brained
    Some people are too negative
    Some people just suck at doing anything

    It's not always about "taking action" or "staying focused". For some, yes, but not for all.

    Many of the types I listed above, however, can get ahead using two methods:

    1. Complete, done-for-you services
    2. The right coaching program or mentorship for them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Is it REALLY possible to make money doing nothing?
    Of course you can, you can sit on your ass all day, and wait for the Government to send you a check once a month
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    • Profile picture of the author Alice12345
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Of course you can, you can sit on your ass all day, and wait for the Government to send you a check once a month
      Sure, agree no more.

      Your post really not making any sense at all. Sorry no offence.

      Should be doing less work.
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  • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
    Bit of a waste of time this thread. When I first saw it I couldn't believe people were actually posting in it. Now look at me posting away hahah!
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  • Profile picture of the author thedanbrown
    I think your title is what's wrong with this community in general. People actually believe you can make long term passive income doing NOTHING... and they never end up actually getting anything done... and then quit saying that it's all the gurus fault or whatever.

    Look, your title is misleading definitely, but I'm sure it will get a lot of views because that's what people really want... make money doing nothing... doesn't work that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmaster555
    There's nothing wrong with what he said.

    If I worked 6 years to have passive income, and I lay my ass on the bed and check my email to see that I just made $60, then I just made money DOING nothing.

    Does anyone here know the difference between doing and done? Stop trying to be a-holes knocking the thread down when you're the ones not understanding

    Once you put the work in, you can make money doing nothing. It is possible. I took a dump this morning and made a few bucks myself. At the moment I was "doing nothing" (that would be considered work) and made money...
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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by dmaster555 View Post

      There's nothing wrong with what he said.

      If I worked 6 years to have passive income, and I lay my ass on the bed and check my email to see that I just made $60, then I just made money DOING nothing.

      Does anyone here know the difference between doing and done? Stop trying to be a-holes knocking the thread down when you're the ones not understanding

      Once you put the work in, you can make money doing nothing. It is possible. I took a dump this morning and made a few bucks myself. At the moment I was "doing nothing" (that would be considered work) and made money...
      I think most of us understand that you need t work A LOT to build of the passive income. But common, why play with words in the title for the sake of drawing tons of attention. Recently a lot of these threads seem to be geared towards signature exposure more then anything.
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      • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
        Originally Posted by webmonopoly View Post

        I think most of us understand that you need t work A LOT to build of the passive income. But common, why play with words in the title for the sake of drawing tons of attention. Recently a lot of these threads seem to be geared towards signature exposure more then anything.
        I already explained my poor choice of words. Besides, I'm not selling anything so you can cross me off the list of linkbaiters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    The answer is YES!

    Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

    It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

    I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.
    Yes, you did it yourself, but I suspect you got some decent verbal advice along the way.

    Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

    Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.
    I was going to write something that would disprove this, but it's not appropriate for this forum.


    *** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

    - WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
    Noted.

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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by Rod Cortez View Post

      Yes, you did it yourself, but I suspect you got some decent verbal advice along the way.

      I was going to write something that would disprove this, but it's not appropriate for this forum.


      Noted.

      RoD

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  • Profile picture of the author znan
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    Everything is work! Even sex is work.
    If even sex is work (something we humans are biologically programmed to enjoy) than everything to you is work. Even breathing. Following the logic of your title, the richest people in the world are dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    At the moment I was "doing nothing" (that would be considered work) and made money...
    I have to disagree with this, you had to WORK your ass muscles to squeeze the turds out :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    The title to some newer people may be misleading however I understand the point the original poster is making . If you put in work you can set it up that way your online business runs on autopilot.
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    The answer is YES!

    Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

    It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

    I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.

    Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

    Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.


    *** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

    - WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
    Thank you for this information!

    Now, tell us how you managed to achieve your goals.

    How many steps did you follow?

    What kind of passive income you are talking about?





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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by clever7 View Post

      Thank you for this information!

      Now, tell us how you managed to achieve your goals.

      How many steps did you follow?

      What kind of passive income you are talking about?





      Without telling my whole life story because that's crazy boring:
      - I didn't follow any steps. I explored and learned and kept trying new things. The steps, if I ever followed any, only helped me learn. The real money was made by exploring and trying things that hadn't been done before.

      - What kind of passive income? I'm talking about the kind where it's Christmas when I wake up every morning. I check my phone and see these little Paypal app notifications showing me how many sales I made while I slept and how much people paid for my products.

      I'm no millionaire but I'm comfortable and happy. The brutal hard work I've spent all these years was all worth it in the end.

      If I could give any advice, I would say: the journey is always harder than you think, but if you work hard, you'll get there sooner than you think.
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  • Profile picture of the author James Hessler
    The Beatles ( their estate!), still make money. JK Rowling still makes money. Nirvana ( their estate!), still makes money. Anyone who has worked hard, created an icon or valuable 'real estate', still makes money.

    What they've done is devolve their time from their income. That is to say, they are separate. They've worked harder ( and possibly smarter), than some would, so they could live like most can't (paraphrasing a popular quote there).

    Also, as an educated guess, money was not the driving for force.

    Gotta love this forum

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnTheJock
      You should write an ebook about making money doing nothing!

      How contradictory would that be?

      Just kidding, I get your point, you just put it over the wrong way

      No harm done, I imagine in your enthusiasm to contribute you lost your way a little. We ALL make mistakes
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      • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
        Originally Posted by JohnTheJock View Post

        You should write an ebook about making money doing nothing!

        How contradictory would that be?

        Just kidding, I get your point, you just put it over the wrong way

        No harm done, I imagine in your enthusiasm to contribute you lost your way a little. We ALL make mistakes
        Hahaha! I would write that book if the effort was worthwhile. The amount of time I spend writing that could easily boost my existing business. It's like a weird catch 22 where anybody that's made any real money can't be bothered to sell his knowledge because he could be using time/knowledge himself to make even more money.

        Which makes me wonder about all those guys selling their methods to making money online. If those methods really worked as well as they promised, why aren't they using them for other and more profitable businesses? I mean...if targeting IM is your best known way to make money, how good are you? (Haha, oh man, here comes the backlash.)

        But it's a fun thought, nonetheless...
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  • Profile picture of the author sprice
    This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

    "Do what others won't, so later you can do what others can't."

    Making money online is hard, but you know what's harder? Having a regular job your entire life.

    Getting to the point of making money by doing nothing requires work to get there. But the beauty of online income is that once you put in the work, money continues to roll in.

    One of my sites that I started 4 years ago and haven't touched in 3 years still brings in random affiliate sales even though I've done nothing to it in 3 years.

    So making money doing nothing is possible, if you do something to create the income stream first.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by sprice View Post

      This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes:

      "Do what others won't, so later you can do what others can't."

      Making money online is hard, but you know what's harder? Having a regular job your entire life.

      Getting to the point of making money by doing nothing requires work to get there. But the beauty of online income is that once you put in the work, money continues to roll in.

      One of my sites that I started 4 years ago and haven't touched in 3 years still brings in random affiliate sales even though I've done nothing to it in 3 years.

      So making money doing nothing is possible, if you do something to create the income stream first.
      I completely agree. And besides, if you approached IM with the same professionalism you have with a 9-5 job, it shouldn't take you too long. 40 hours a week for several weeks can teach you many useful (profitable) IM skills.
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    • Profile picture of the author cuie
      Originally Posted by sprice View Post


      Making money online is hard, but you know what's harder? Having a regular job your entire life.
      I think this sentence summarize the problem with IM/MMO (not you . This niche attracts crowds who are too lazy to even get a real 9-to-5 job. They don't want to work for a decent education, they don't want to do the work to get a job and when they finally get it, they are too lazy to do it.

      There are so many unsuccessful MMO'ers who mix "I want to be free to do what I want" with "I'm too damn lazy to do what I want". It is so much nicer to just sit on a computer than actually DO something to achieve your goals.

      If you want to be successful in MMO, you need to have an entrepreneurial spirit. You'd be ready to work your ass off to get where you want to be. You'd be ready to work on a shitty 9-to-5 job so you can save enough money to be invested in your IM activities. Success would really be inevitable. You wouldn't have any other option.

      I personally get a ton of emails everyday saying that "Help me, I have no education, no job, no nothing. I want to earn my living online, so I can live the lifestyle I want". Well, where would you start? Doing "Some gigs on Fiverr" maybe? Or maybe just trying to get to that "shitty 9-to-5 lifestyle" first, before you can get away from it.

      ...my 2 cent rant
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  • Profile picture of the author aurettemag
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    The answer is YES!

    Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

    It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

    I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.

    Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

    Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.


    *** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

    - WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
    Your post is good and you should feel good. Yes ofcourse 6 figure passive income is easy to do if you invest your time into it
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  • Profile picture of the author dewayneboyd
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    The answer is YES!

    Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

    It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

    I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.

    Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

    Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.


    *** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

    - WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
    Did you forget your meds today?
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  • Profile picture of the author adrianmanyathelo
    Yes, it's possible but you have to build towards that. The first thing you need to do is invest enough to let you make money without being there physically. A lot of people get put away by the word investment because they think it involves lots of money.

    That is not true.

    Look at the online businesses around some of which you can invest in for as small amount as $25! Think about that...
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Schuman
      My wife makes money doing nothing now that the kids are raised. I think she has actually created a residual income where she was a great wife and mother and now the kids are grown (and so am I) so she lives off of her past achievements and lets me pay the bills.

      I am not complaining. She is still a great wife!
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      • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
        Originally Posted by Jeff Schuman View Post

        My wife makes money doing nothing now that the kids are raised. I think she has actually created a residual income where she was a great wife and mother and now the kids are grown (and so am I) so she lives off of her past achievements and lets me pay the bills.

        I am not complaining. She is still a great wife!
        That's great, Jeff. You've got an awesome wife.
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    • Profile picture of the author S McKinley
      Originally Posted by adrianmanyathelo View Post

      Yes, it's possible but you have to build towards that. The first thing you need to do is invest enough to let you make money without being there physically. A lot of people get put away by the word investment because they think it involves lots of money.

      That is not true.

      Look at the online businesses around some of which you can invest in for as small amount as $25! Think about that...
      Good point and I'd have to agree with this for sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by TheUser View Post

      To the OP : Have you read the millionaire fastlane?
      No, I haven't. Is that a book I can find on Amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author asuran
    Originally Posted by blackli0n View Post

    The answer is YES!

    Oh man...at first I thought it was impossible. Like making money online was some secret only others figured out. I started scheming and trying to come up with magical ideas, which were all a total waste of time.

    It wasn't until I understood making money online (or doing anything, really) AS A PROCESS, that I started making progress. Think of it as a process. You learn and learn and grow and grow until one day, you're making the kind of money you want.

    I did it without help, without ever buying a WSO or guide, or any of that crap. I simply learned many MANY skills (some useful, some not-so-useful) and kept at it. 6 years after I started, I was making passive income without having to work everyday. It's totally possible and you will get there if you start working. You can totally pull 6 figures doing nothing. It's possible, TRUST ME.

    Working your ass off to build a residual money-making business is totally possible. It's the other option of NOT working your ass off and making money that is totally impossible. Thinking the second option actually exists will only distract you from the path to success.

    Everything is work! Even sex is work. (Getting sex is work. HAVING sex is work.) Try to look at it that way. If you're looking at any methods or trying to do anything that is sold to you as being "LESS work", that might not be the right way to go.


    *** Due to everyone not understanding my flawed writing logic...let me correct myself by saying the title should have been, "Is it REALLY possible to make passive income?"

    - WHEW! This writing stuff is hard when you don't pay attention.
    It is funny I was puzzled until I read your disclaimer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    After all is said and done the OP hasn't shown that you
    can make money doing nothing. He's possibly shown (no proof
    offered) that you can work your ass off for 6 years and if you
    do the right things during that time you might be able to relax
    and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

    But you most certainly did not, and do not, make money for doing
    nothing. You did plenty... for many years... my bet is that several
    of those years were spent doing plenty and making little or nothing
    as you figured it out.

    And that's where most newbies fail... they don't have the balls to
    work through the lean years to get to where you might possibly be
    now.
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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by Tsnyder View Post

      After all is said and done the OP hasn't shown that you
      can make money doing nothing. He's possibly shown (no proof
      offered) that you can work your ass off for 6 years and if you
      do the right things during that time you might be able to relax
      and enjoy the fruits of your labor.

      But you most certainly did not, and do not, make money for doing
      nothing. You did plenty... for many years... my bet is that several
      of those years were spent doing plenty and making little or nothing
      as you figured it out.

      And that's where most newbies fail... they don't have the balls to
      work through the lean years to get to where you might possibly be
      now.
      Yeaup, I meant the post as motivation. Letting them know there is a light at the end of the tunnel, and that it takes work to get there. And if you put in the effort, they can eventually make passive income.

      I might make another post someday with actual execution advice but I'll keep this one purely inspirational for now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
    I read the first 5 arguments replies only...I don't understand what's confusing.

    You work your ass off TODAY doing lots of work.

    Then, in the FUTURE (after you have successfully created the money making system), you can sit back and make money by doing nothing.

    I'm sure everyone understood that that was the point of the OP, but I think people just like to argue sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author SuperDJ
    Yes, OP agreed - you reap what you sow.

    I wish more "newbies", understood that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
    So anyway, if you wouldn't mind sharing...

    What were the major lessons that you learned as you began to start seeing success after trying for so long?

    What skills have you learned that you find to be crucial towards your success?

    Did you pick just one niche and stick with it for the entire 6 years, or did you drop some idea and try new ones after realizing that some were duds?

    Very awesome story brotha!
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    • Profile picture of the author blackli0n
      Originally Posted by Bkelly301 View Post

      So anyway, if you wouldn't mind sharing...

      What were the major lessons that you learned as you began to start seeing success after trying for so long?

      What skills have you learned that you find to be crucial towards your success?

      Did you pick just one niche and stick with it for the entire 6 years, or did you drop some idea and try new ones after realizing that some were duds?

      Very awesome story brotha!
      I'll do a nice big write-up and stick here on the WarriorForum one day. There are so many great stories and memories I could share.
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  • Profile picture of the author DaleRay
    In internet marketing it's ok to work hard for the first year or two but you don't want to do it forever. Because that would be like working a regular job. You shouldn't have to work to maintain what you already have. Only to increase it. Instead of doing nothing it would be better to try to work 2 hours a day. 80% marketing and 20% personal developement is a good mix.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Skinner
    NO! It is not.....
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  • Profile picture of the author rmolina88
    So, the moral of the story is... you have to work hard to be lazy?
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRealWriterMan
    So the truest answer is no. Even if you are currently making money doing nothing, you had to do something at some point. And that more than likely meant working very hard to get where you are now. So you are doing work that continually pays off, even in the future. It's not the same as doing nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author KohPhiPhi
    This thread is absolutely pointless as there is nothing specific discussed here.
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    • Profile picture of the author cuie
      Originally Posted by KohPhiPhi View Post

      This thread is absolutely pointless as there is nothing specific discussed here.
      Thanks for your great insight. You on the other hand really brought value to this thread.

      Ryan, you are absolutely right. You just said it with too few words
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  • Profile picture of the author troymarkz
    I agree to make money doing nothing first you have to work really hard this im stuff only works if you put your 100% focus on the business build a big list them you only send a few emails and them BOOM instant cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author Walter Cyclid
    I would say you can get to were you don't have to work for each and every sale you make, and a lot of the money you earn can be passive, but to say you can make money by doing nothing is not accurate.

    Even the passive earnings will eventually stop if you don't continue to work whatever marketing system you have developed.

    Even if you get to the point to where you can hire people for everything that needs to be done, the marketing system is still being worked even if you are not the one who is personally working it.

    Even at that point, you are still not totally free to just say I can make money by doing nothing. You are still responsible for everything, no matter who is working the system. That alone can provide it's own headaches.

    The title of your thread is:

    Is it REALLY possible to make money doing nothing?

    The answer is clearly, it is not possible to make money by doing nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pedro Lopes
    So you paid the price upfront. It requires great ambition and faith which most people have very limited amounts of.
    The problem is we live in a microwave society.. and $10k/month isn't microwavable, its slow cooked..
    Congrats!
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    'Do the work once, get paid forever'

    ...is my motto
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  • Profile picture of the author ElainePete
    You can get some pretty sums just playing games, such as MG or GT, if you heard of them. This is pretty much like being paid for doing nothing. And you can have a lot of fun, too.
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