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Submitting articles to article directories 2014-> (No SEO)

by Nattsurfaren
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Is all work and time spent on writing articles worth for promoting my business through article directories? I'm not using this for any SEO strategy.
#2014> #article #articles #directories #seo #submitting
  • Profile picture of the author samkadya
    Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

    Is all work and time spent on writing articles worth for promoting my business through article directories? I'm not using this for any SEO strategy.
    It depends on the traffic to those article directories. If they have high traffic it is worth it.
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    • Profile picture of the author VinnyBock
      Submitting well written articles that are 100% relevant to what you're offering/promoting is a good way to drive targeted direct traffic, yes.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nattsurfaren
        Thanks for the responses.
        I know there are lists of article directories I can just pick one by one and submit to them. I also prepared the article as hand spinned to get more success for the article to get accepted.
        I know already now that the gain from this will be just lame but still I'm sure it will beat search engine traffic.
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

          Thanks for the responses.
          I know there are lists of article directories I can just pick one by one and submit to them. I also prepared the article as hand spinned to get more success for the article to get accepted.
          I know already now that the gain from this will be just lame but still I'm sure it will beat search engine traffic.
          They say that it isn't what you don't know that bites you in the butt. It's the stuff you know that just isn't correct.

          Counting on article directories for direct traffic is crazy talk.

          Yes, some directories still get a fair amount of traffic, but two million visits spread across one million pages is only two visitors per page if everything were spread evenly, which it never is.

          I still drop articles in EzineArticles, but it isn't for traffic. It's to attract new publishers who still use EZA to find content for websites, blogs and ezines/newsletters. When one of my articles gets picked up, I check out the site. If it's acceptable (well done, on point, relevant), I invite that publisher to join my syndicate and get my articles before I post them to the directory. Syndicate partners also get articles that don't go on the directory.

          If you want to make the most from writing and distributing articles, read the various threads on article marketing and syndication.
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          • Profile picture of the author Nattsurfaren
            Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

            When one of my articles gets picked up, I check out the site. If it's acceptable (well done, on point, relevant), I invite that publisher to join my syndicate and get my articles before I post them to the directory. Syndicate partners also get articles that don't go on the directory.

            If you want to make the most from writing and distributing articles, read the various threads on article marketing and syndication.
            That sound interesting. So you get the referrer information from where the article were published and then contact the website owner through e-mail?
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  • Profile picture of the author jvjoe
    Read this postWho Still Uses EzineArticles?

    and How do Article Directories work?

    These post should give you heads up how
    to go about using Article Directories.
    Hope this helps?
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  • Profile picture of the author JRJWrites
    Read EVERYTHING Alexa Smith has on this topic.

    That will clear up any doubts you have on it fo' sho'!
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    • Profile picture of the author Nattsurfaren
      Originally Posted by JRJWrites View Post

      Read EVERYTHING Alexa Smith has on this topic.

      That will clear up any doubts you have on it fo' sho'!
      I read what she had to say about this 'How do Article Directories work' the second post she did was all built pretty much on search engine strategy. 2014 and forward will no longer be much about search engines. All signals point in that direction so I need to find an alternative method.
      I have done many tests with Google and the last one I'm currently doing is a tier network of web2.0 blogs backed up with a second tier done with GSA SER. Number of indexed keywords are just dropping from when I started over a month ago.
      There are no magic 'if you do that then it will work' because it all leads to Google crap traffic.
      So I'm exploring something that doesn't involve Search Engines and I was hoping article directories would do something to help me.

      When I read Alexas advice I got the sense that she is performing the article syndication based on that Google will pick up links from websites that used the published article fond on a article directory. Trust me on this Googles role in this will be almost nothing in the future in the way they are plugging all of what they seam to think is machine made promotions. I don't want to put any eggs in the Google basket any more.

      I hope you see where I'm coming from.
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      • Profile picture of the author JRJWrites
        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        I read what she had to say about this 'How do Article Directories work' the second post she did was all built pretty much on search engine strategy.
        Um, what search engine strategy? If there's one thing I know about Alexa, it's that she is NOT reliant on Google for her traffic.

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        2014 and forward will no longer be much about search engines. All signals point in that direction
        In 2014 search engines MAY have a lower impact on an online business, but that still doesn't mean that you should ignore them completely.

        After all - 40% of traffic on the Internet starts with big G.

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        so I need to find an alternative method.
        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        I have done many tests with Google and the last one I'm currently doing is a tier network of web2.0 blogs backed up with a second tier done with GSA SER. Number of indexed keywords are just dropping from when I started over a month ago.
        Maybe that's not Google's fault and could be (gasp ) your fault?


        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        There are no magic 'if you do that then it will work'
        "If you do what, what will work?"

        I've never said anything of the sort (and, to my knowledge, neither has Alexa).

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        because it all leads to Google crap traffic.
        Article marketing + content syndication does NOT lead to Google traffic. It leads to referral traffic.

        And Google traffic isn't crap. Yet.


        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        So I'm exploring something that doesn't involve Search Engines and I was hoping article directories would do something to help me.
        Sigh. That's exactly why I pointed you to Alexa's posts.

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        When I read Alexas advice I got the sense that she is performing the article syndication based on that Google will pick up links from websites that used the published article fond on a article directory.
        Read it again, then. That's not her stance at all.

        Article syndication is all about WEBSITES picking up your content and re-using it on their own blog or in an Ezine. No search engine is used in the process (quoting Alexa).

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        Trust me
        Sorry, sir. But I really don't think that trusting you would be all too good for my Internet business. :rolleyes:

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        Googles role in this will be almost nothing in the future in the way they are plugging all of what they seam to think is machine made promotions.
        I have no idea what you're talking about when you say machine made promotions, but if that's the crap you believe in, I'm not gonna stop you.

        Your problem, not mine.

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        I don't want to put any eggs in the Google basket any more.
        I'm putting ONE egg in my Google basket. A small 'un, too. Already seeing results, actually.

        Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

        I hope you see where I'm coming from.
        I hoped I would too, but...I don't.

        You've obviously misunderstood what article syndication is all about. PM Alexa (she's one helpful gal) - she'll set you straight soon enough.
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        • Profile picture of the author Nattsurfaren
          Um, what search engine strategy? If there's one thing I know about Alexa, it's that she is NOT reliant on Google for her traffic.
          Sorry it is easy to misunderstand when I pickup information like 'article directories have PR 0' so I assumed she meant that the republished pages have all the PR juice.



          In 2014 search engines MAY have a lower impact on an online business, but that still doesn't mean that you should ignore them completely.

          After all - 40% of traffic on the Internet starts with big G.
          I trust you base your experience on old and established domains.
          My point of view is from people just starting up.




          Maybe that's not Google's fault and could be (gasp ) your fault?
          Well from all hundreds of test I have done it tends to be less likely? But again you probably have things established so you don't know what it is for someone starting out fresh?


          "If you do what, what will work?"
          I've never said anything of the sort (and, to my knowledge, neither has Alexa).
          That is totally not what I meant.
          For people like me that are trying out different marketing methods it is always a chain of doing things in certain way for that specific method. You would think the successful formula would be that if you do things exactly as it is in the chain then suddenly things clicks. Because of the nature of not being able to describe things exactly in the forum you start to improvise and it tends to be bits a pieces that is replaced in the chain.
          With you comment "If you do what, what will work?" I was refering to maybe I did somthing wrong. Ok I try to make it a bit different. Swap another piece in the chain so to say. It doesn't really work.


          Article marketing + content syndication does NOT lead to Google traffic. It leads to referral traffic.

          And Google traffic isn't crap. Yet.
          Then that is good then? I don't want google traffic I want visitors from the re published articles?




          Sigh. That's exactly why I pointed you to Alexa's posts.
          Great thanks for that.


          Read it again, then. That's not her stance at all.

          Article syndication is all about WEBSITES picking up your content and re-using it on their own blog or in an Ezine. No search engine is used in the process (quoting Alexa).
          Another great news. I don't want Google. Google sucks!


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          Sorry, sir. But I really don't think that trusting you would be all too good for my Internet business. :rolleyes:
          You don't have to. I'm just giving my point of view from my many years of experience.


          I have no idea what you're talking about when you say machine made promotions, but if that's the crap you believe in, I'm not gonna stop you.

          Your problem, not mine.
          Not everyone notice the same as I do. But if you read a bit about people that mention panda and penguin you probably also notice that people are frustrated.



          I'm putting ONE egg in my Google basket. A small 'un, too. Already seeing results, actually.
          That is a great idea. You shouldn't put in any effort on that egg but placing it there is great.

          I hoped I would too, but...I don't.

          You've obviously misunderstood what article syndication is all about. PM Alexa (she's one helpful gal) - she'll set you straight soon enough.
          I have already communicate with her through PM and as you say she is really helpful. I thought she first were using google but now I know better.

          Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
          Originally Posted by Nattsurfaren View Post

          That sound interesting. So you get the referrer information from where the article were published and then contact the website owner through e-mail?
          Google tells me when someone publishes one of my articles.

          When I submit an article, I set up a Google Alert for a bit of text in the article. Then I get email notices when the article goes live (along with the note EZA sends) and whenever that bit of text shows up in the index.

          Then I do indeed contact the website through email.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nattsurfaren
    Based on information I found from Alexa she said article marketing wasn't about SEO which is great. Maybe this can work. I don't know. Reading some more about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author edgeyy66
    These threads are full of great information for a rookie like me but it's tough to navigate these detailed exchanges when I don't understand most to the references.

    I'm just starting I've been working on creating content, automated list system, lead magnet and a couple of eBooks for sale. Now, I'm ready to move on to build traffic and look for affiliates to promote.

    I come from a writing background so this article marketing seems like a natural for me but I am thoroughly confused as to how where and why I should do this.

    I was all ready to blast ezinearticles.com with my ten articles until I read all the negative stuff about them being dead. So a couple of questions.

    1. Is there a resource where I can read the about how and why article marketing works - like "Article Marketing for Idiots"

    2. For 2014 what are the best sites - and, I guess, what should I look for in a site?

    Regards,
    Sam Edge - Notes from the Edge

    PS I re-read this thread and can see some links referenced to ALexa Smith. I will try that.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Originally Posted by edgeyy66 View Post


      1. Is there a resource where I can read the about how and why article marketing works - like "Article Marketing for Idiots"

      2. For 2014 what are the best sites - and, I guess, what should I look for in a site?

      Regards,
      Sam Edge - Notes from the Edge

      PS I re-read this thread and can see some links referenced to ALexa Smith. I will try that.
      For #1, the idea in your PS is a good start.

      For #2, the answer is going to be different for just about everybody, depending on their target markets. The best sites are the ones that a) use outside material, be it syndicated articles or guest posts or even just attributed quotes and b) whose audience reaches the people you want to reach.

      When looking for places to publish your articles, don't get hung up on traffic numbers or Alexa rankings or that kind of stuff. Some of my best placements aren't even on the web. Getting into ezines, autoresponder sequences, even print can give you all the targeted traffic you can handle.

      When considering print, smaller is often better. Or at least easier.

      While it might be nice to land an article in USA Today, that's not something to aim for. But being picked up by a service that in turn syndicates to a few dozen small town papers isn't bad.

      I'm getting off topic here, so I'll shut up...
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  • Profile picture of the author edgeyy66
    I've been reading Article Marketing threads all day. As a newbie what a fantastic resource this board is. My hats off to you all especially Alexa.

    A small return is this article. It is the best one I found about the best current Article Directories with a ton of information.

    Merry Christmas.

    Top Article Directories with High PageRank and Traffic for 2013-2014
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  • Profile picture of the author H.Miller
    No matter what you do just focus on putting out quality content. That's really what it all boils down to. If you have a blog you can post your articles on your blog and link to them from your social media sites. That will help drive direct traffic to your blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnsmith
    Article marketing or the content marketing is a new trend in the field of online marketing. While writing an article you should be careful and must be sure to provide relevant and useful information regarding your business. And now Google's update also gives the preference to the websites that have unique, effective as well as relevant content.
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