The Best Mentor in history

by Clint
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Here's something that will make a great topic.

Out of all of the gurus on the Internet, which one has or has the potential to make the biggest difference in your, and possibly others financial situation?

If you have a personal story related to a mentor fill free to share.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

      Since these guys are deceased, they can hardly be very flexible in their ability to add to your revenue.
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      • Profile picture of the author Clint
        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        Since these guys are deceased, they can hardly be very flexible in their ability to add to your revenue.
        I must agree with you on this one, but you must also agree that you can obtain some great nuggets/fundamentals to financial success from the past.
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        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        Since these guys are deceased, they can hardly be very flexible in their ability to add to your revenue.
        Not sure what your mean? You obviously have never studied the Masters.

        Claude Hopkins, David Ogilvy, Gary Halbert, Dick Benson, John Caples, Robert Collier...

        All deceased and some of the best Marketing people in History, period.

        Learn from the best.

        There is no such thing as Internet Marketing, it's ALL marketing.

        This is why most IMers fail, bigtime.

        They are clueless at marketing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Clint
          Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post


          Learn from the best.

          ........
          This is why most IMers fail, bigtime.

          They are clueless at marketing.
          I absolutely agree with you Mac.
          Do you also agree that you must be first be clueless about marketing in order to get your first clue?
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        • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
          Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

          Not sure what your mean? You obviously have never studied the Masters.

          Claude Hopkins, David Ogilvy, Gary Halbert, Dick Benson, John Caples, Robert Collier...

          All deceased and some of the best Marketing people in History, period.

          Learn from the best.

          There is no such thing as Internet Marketing, it's ALL marketing.

          This is why most IMers fail, bigtime.

          They are clueless at marketing.

          And when you assume you make and ass out of u and me.

          I happen to have books from ALL of those people (and a lot more) next to me right now.

          I read EVERYTHING I can get my hands on, and I always go back to the source for information.

          The question wasn't what names have produced good information - or I'd have listed some of those same people.

          Apart from you mistaken comment directed at me - I agree with you about marketing and IM.

          Andy
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          • Profile picture of the author Clint
            Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

            And when you assume you make and ass out of u and me.

            I happen to have books from ALL of those people (and a lot more) next to me right now.

            I read EVERYTHING I can get my hands on, and I always go back to the source for information.

            The question wasn't what names have produced good information - or I'd have listed some of those same people.

            Apart from you mistaken comment directed at me - I agree with you about marketing and IM.

            Andy
            Hi Andy
            Thank you for your clarification. I known that only one that appreciates people straining out some confusion.
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          • Profile picture of the author MacFreddie
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            Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

            And when you assume you make and ass out of u and me.

            I happen to have books from ALL of those people (and a lot more) next to me right now.

            I read EVERYTHING I can get my hands on, and I always go back to the source for information.

            The question wasn't what names have produced good information - or I'd have listed some of those same people.

            Apart from you mistaken comment directed at me - I agree with you about marketing and IM.

            Andy

            "Rich people have small TVs and big libraries, and poor people have small libraries and big TVs."
            -- Zig Ziglar
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            • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
              Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

              "Rich people have small TVs and big libraries, and poor people have small libraries and big TVs."
              -- Zig Ziglar
              And there was me wanting a bigger TV aswell as more book cases
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              • Profile picture of the author Stu Eaves
                Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

                And there was me wanting a bigger TV aswell as more book cases
                Just a bigger TV? Why not go for a full home cinema?
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                • Profile picture of the author Clint
                  Originally Posted by Stu Eaves View Post

                  Just a bigger TV? Why not go for a full home cinema?
                  Hi stu beginning to drift away from the main topic. So if you do not mind, may I ask you who it is you look up to?
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              • Profile picture of the author Clint
                Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

                And there was me wanting a bigger TV aswell as more book cases
                I must agree with you Andy why not have everything that you can have in desire, but the key that I lack some of the time is balance.
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            • Profile picture of the author Clint
              Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

              "Rich people have small TVs and big libraries, and poor people have small libraries and big TVs."
              -- Zig Ziglar
              Zig Ziglar is okay and all, but he teaches a lot of common sense, would Kerry have. So although he might be your "idol" I must say it is not appeal to my taste.
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            • Profile picture of the author Brad Spencer
              Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

              "Rich people have small TVs and big libraries, and poor people have small libraries and big TVs."
              -- Zig Ziglar
              Haha,

              This is seriously one of the best/funniest/totally true comments I've read in a long time. I guess if this is true then I'm rich...

              I'm pretty proud of my library. Suffice it to say I've killed a few forests

              Cheers,

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      • Profile picture of the author VegasVince
        Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

        Since these guys are deceased, they can hardly be very flexible in their ability to add to your revenue.

        I've learned more from the late, great, legendary Gary Halbert.....then any ten living gurus put together.

        Greatness has a way of trumping space and time.....and reaching out beyond the grave.

        In the case of Gary Halbert and the body of work he left behind...I can assure you'se.....my revenue has increased dramatically......even though he left us too soon.


        xxx Vegas Vince
        Legend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bud Fox
    Pay attention to the guys that have been dead long before the internet came around. Earl Nightingale, Dale Carnegie, Napolean Hill.

    Read and take action. Seriously. Don't just read.

    Trust yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint
      Originally Posted by Bud Fox View Post

      Pay attention to the guys that have been dead long before the internet came around. Earl Nightingale, Dale Carnegie, Napolean Hill.

      Read and take action. Seriously. Don't just read.

      Trust yourself.
      I have read each of these guys books, and I must agree with you that they know their stuff. you have struck my curiosity, and I am wondering, what in these guys teaching did you find to make the most difference in your life?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    None of the Gurus on the Internet are able to impact me any better than my own family - my sister is a life-coach and my brother is a psychotherapist. The money is just a reflection of successful implementations of revenue-based actions but they're driven by your psychology.

    Many 'Gurus' are not qualified to do any more than just tell others what they did - they're not qualified to tell anyone else what's best for them (despite what some of them think).

    My brother and sister have both been the most amazing inspirations to be, and I've met a LOT of people over the years and been a student of success.

    I literally do consider my brother as my mentor - he's a great businessman, a fantastic guy and has surpassed my own revenue creating abilities, so I'm always looking up to him.

    Andy
    p.s. Sorry if you wanted us to reply with some IM Guru who we don't really know. I've met a lot of the well-known IM Gurus and there are some nice people in that category, but I couldn't call any a mentor as such.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      None of the Gurus on the Internet are able to impact me any better than my own family - my sister is a life-coach and my brother is a psychotherapist. The money is just a reflection of successful implementations of revenue-based actions but they're driven by your psychology.

      Many 'Gurus' are not qualified to do any more than just tell others what they did - they're not qualified to tell anyone else what's best for them (despite what some of them think).

      My brother and sister have both been the most amazing inspirations to be, and I've met a LOT of people over the years and been a student of success.

      I literally do consider my brother as my mentor - he's a great businessman, a fantastic guy and has surpassed my own revenue creating abilities, so I'm always looking up to him.

      Andy
      p.s. Sorry if you wanted us to reply with some IM Guru who we don't really know. I've met a lot of the well-known IM Gurus and there are some nice people in that category, but I couldn't call any a mentor as such.
      Hi Andy
      Don't need to apologize, although this is an Internet marketing discussion forum . Not everyone gets their inspiration and leadership from other Internet marketers.

      I must agree with you as for his family. They are my biggest supporters, and without them would not be where I am today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Razvan Rovinaru
    Yes, I am right here, what do you want to know?




    Kidding of course. I've always looked up to John Reese, Willie Crawford, The Rich Jerk and Stone Evans, whose guides started me on the right path to IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint
      Originally Posted by Razvan Rovinaru View Post

      Yes, I am right here, what do you want to know?




      Kidding of course. I've always looked up to John Reese, Willie Crawford, The Rich Jerk and Stone Evans, whose guides started me on the right path to IM.
      Hi Razvan
      I must say that there is a lot of people I look up to a lot of leaders and mentors merely because of their achievements.

      Do you look up to these people because of their achievements or there teaching?
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  • Profile picture of the author Raghav Mishra
    Someone who can have a positive impact on your life.

    For me, its myself. I'm the one who knows myself in and out, where I lag behind, where I'm good and hence, I'm the best mentor in history for me!
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    • Profile picture of the author Clint
      Originally Posted by maxpayne View Post

      Someone who can have a positive impact on your life.

      For me, its myself. I'm the one who knows myself in and out, where I lag behind, where I'm good and hence, I'm the best mentor in history for me!
      Hi max
      Only if we could all feel the same, would we all have such great self-images. but unfortunately not everyone has such great self-esteem. Just curious what your key to a positive self-image is.
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      Originally Posted by internetmarketingiq View Post

      Obama. Because it is during his administration that we are likely going to have to deal with Internet Sales Taxes again. And that is going to make or break it for a lot of folks.
      Wow thanks
      I did not think of that. Lets hope not
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    Napolean Hill was great...
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      • Profile picture of the author Clint
        Originally Posted by JoyPackard View Post

        I really like Chris Farrell and Bobby Walker. They are down to earth and real people. They share so much and are easy to understand.
        Thanks for sharing Joy
        I must agree with you, some of the greatest people that sync up with my beliefs tend to be the most down-to-earth people that I have ever met. Not everyone is for everyone, You must find someone that works for you.
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      Originally Posted by Jon Steel View Post

      Napolean Hill was great...
      I do not believe we can speak about Napolean as past tense, for he affects so many people's lives Still today
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  • Profile picture of the author j hogan
    in terms of making the biggest impact on my financial situation and putting real money in the bank: Tiffany Dow & Courtney Ramirez. Reading their products & blogs gave me the confidence to try freelance and its been a big money spinner for me. And yes, Gary Halbert!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Anderson
    all of us can look to, and list 20 people in our lives.
    that is the easy part. a teacher, a trainer in the army hell your first girlfriend counts, but i really think that i have now become the sum of my mentors.
    hopefully all those teachers and priests, hookers and enemies have made me into someone i can admire, or if you like be proud to be.
    (now would one of you please phone my mother and tell her to stop worring)
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  • Profile picture of the author ultraeternity
    Gary Halbert definitely, no one comes even close! Reading the Boron Letters has probably been the best thing i've done in my life (i'm quite young though). I highly recommend it because it teaches more than just good marketing, it teaches a lot of things about how to live life properly as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtaylor336
    then again, Avery does have his website that goes from noob to millionaire and can make a complete beginner alot of money
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  • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
    Out of all of the gurus on the Internet, which one has or has the potential to make the biggest difference in your, and possibly others financial situation?
    I can definitely say that reading the Gary Halbert Letters was a turning point in my life a few years ago. They are possibly the biggest influence in me pursuing IM and writing as a career.

    Apart from that and all the other mentality and marketing books which I read and treasure, and apart from my parents and teachers and family and all that, nowadays there is only one active IMer I know of whose writing and advice is so valuable to me that I consider him a "mentor" even though he probably has no idea who I am.

    I don't want to say the name here because I know he is active in the forums and I don't want to embarrass the guy but I'll PM you with the name and see if you agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    The best mentor in history was arguably Aristotle. He mentored Alexander the Great, who proceeded to rule the world.

    As for the Internet, are there any that REALLY offer mentoring? You need to have a relationship with them to get that. I think rather than pull stuff out of our ass, you should have some criteria, such as who has made the most money for his associates?

    I know Filsaime is responsible for taking a lot of guys from zero to rich. But he didn't do it with a "mentoring" program. He did it because of their relationship and work ethic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
      Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

      The best mentor in history was arguably Aristotle. He mentored Alexander the Great, who proceeded to rule the world.
      LOL

      I know it's not the main part of the point you were making, but...

      To say Alexander the Great ruled the world is okay, so long as you're not counting any of North or South America, Australia and Antartica, or most of Asia, Europe and Africa.



      All the best,
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  • Profile picture of the author willz605
    so far for me.....free advice from the Gary Halbert.....he is legend!
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  • Profile picture of the author SullyUI
    In my opinion the best mentors are those who share life changing psychological techniques that are the foundations of business and life success.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
    The best mentor?

    Time
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  • Profile picture of the author Shakul
    It is really hard to find the "best" mentor .... For me the thing which works as mentor is my family..

    Shakul
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  • Profile picture of the author cool
    In doe's not matter where we are in life we will always need someone outside of ourselves to take us to the next level
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  • Profile picture of the author Igor Kheifets
    I don't have one. Too many mentors influenced my
    life to pick one. But I sure wouldn't mind listing some of them:

    Tony Robbins, Abraham Hicks, John Assaraf, Jonathan Budd, Jodie Thompson,
    Mike Filsaime, Anik Singla, Mike Dillard, Eben Pegan.

    Igor
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  • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
    Leonardo Da Vinci.

    He created the internet in 1506, but was the only one online.

    He could only send emails to himself so soon got bored.

    So he wrote up his notes on the back of a cigarette packet and moved on to his next project, which I believe was the first helicopter.

    Sam ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author jasoncercone
    This is a great topic and ties together with a solid business-building tip I picked up along the way.

    "The Best Mentor in History" is a very relative term.

    Every person is going to be touched in different ways by different people, so to say that the people I choose to follow and treat as mentors may not be the same for the person reading this forum post.

    Personally, as mentors, I pay close attention to Mike Dillard, Perry Belcher, Jay Kubassek, Andrew Cass, John Jackson, Napolean Hill, Anthony Busciglio, and Justin Woolf.

    When you're building your business, you want your "Board of Directors," or mentors, to be those who provide value, have something you want, and provide a means for which to get it. You want to surround yourself with people who think the right way, because ultimately, you mirror the thoughts and actions of those you most closely associate with. So choose your mentors wisely, and take action to mirror their acts and deeds so one day, you can share in the same success.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlsdron
    This thread really got me thinking about what I look for in a mentor.

    I realize that is includes not just resulting material success but a fit with values that I strive to uphold. (Hmm, I think I may be hearing snorting out there!).

    Thus, I mostly don't look to IM experts by whatever description as a mentor for myself. I am finding that in the offline world through family, friends and associates where I find a broader nature of success.

    Thanks for the thread,
    CD
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    • Profile picture of the author MaskedMarketer
      Originally Posted by MacFreddie View Post

      can't go wrong with Gary halbert!

      from the legend himself:

      7,300,000 Different People!
      All from a simple, one-page letter. Isn't that something? By the way, it took more than 40 people just to make the bank deposits because, often, we'd receive more than 20,000 checks in a single day.

      The Gary Halbert Letter, Exact Name Mailing List
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