What is a article spinner ?

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I keep on hearing about article spinners , so I wanted to know how does it work ?
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  • Profile picture of the author emorrow23
    Well to my best understanding, Article Spinners are software that will rewrite an article and change words/structure and theoretically make unique copies of 1 original article. And still maintain the message the article is trying to convey.

    I would assume this is beneficial if you want multiple versions of an article to submit to article directories, or submit a few different versions to article directories and keep one for your blog/website and still maintain unique articles each time you rewrite.
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    • Profile picture of the author Shakul
      Originally Posted by emorrow23 View Post

      Well to my best understanding, Article Spinners are software that will rewrite an article and change words/structure and theoretically make unique copies of 1 original article. And still maintain the message the article is trying to convey.

      I would assume this is beneficial if you want multiple versions of an article to submit to article directories, or submit a few different versions to article directories and keep one for your blog/website and still maintain unique articles each time you rewrite.
      Very well said!

      Shakul
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    correct. best used to get maximum return from your own articles, PLR stuff, out-of-copyright material and so on.
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  • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
    Article spinners are also useful when you buy something that's called "PLR articles" which is pre-written articles that you have a right to publish on your websites, but other people have the chance to buy them as well.

    By 'spinning' your PLR articles, which is to say putting them into a program that changes the text around, you make them unique from the other copies of the same article, which is important to keep up the perceived value of the content to search engines like Google or Yahoo.
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    • Profile picture of the author vistad
      I'm new and visted a site that hosted a software called wordflood. So far I have been writing my own stuff admittedly after looking at about four articles. This could be of great help as I have been told that a few of my articles are well written. Sob Sob not all of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author usualcliche
    Very informative information....I had questions regarding Article Spinners and Rewriters etc....Thanks for the clarification on this!
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  • Profile picture of the author toughguy
    Well actually article spinner is usually used in finding similar words on a particular words/paragraph in you article

    Article Spinner also used in MyUniqueArticle which most of the article youre going to publish must be spinnable
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Using the search function of this forum would help keep from someone asking this same question over and over...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post832115

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post831718

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...tml#post824924

    Spinning articles have many uses and NO you do not need PLR, you can perfectly use your own articles. Matter fact I suggest you do use your own as many junk PLR (I said junk plr, not all is junk) has incorrect information with no research.

    Using the right tools the right way can produce you great results and save many many hours of your time.

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  • Profile picture of the author zulu24
    This is the first time I've heard about the article spinner and would like to know how I get a hold of this. This really works?
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  • Profile picture of the author spilksch
    So what's a good article spinner to use? Have been thinking of writing some articles to get on EZA so as to start generating more traffic for my site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shakul
    You can try my article re-writer - Check signatures...

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  • Profile picture of the author vishyboy
    Example syntax of Article Spinners...

    { word1 | words combo2 | a few words now }
    you can also go with nesting ...
    { word1 | words combo2 | {a few words now| some more} | EDUmobile.ORG }

    - thats how the syntax works usually. Apply to words, sentences and paragraphs. Some spinners have built in thesaurus that will help you create unique spins. Make sure you check your spin uniqueness with dupecop.com and keep it above 30% to avoid getting caught by filters on google and other engines.
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    • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
      Originally Posted by vishyboy View Post

      Example syntax of Article Spinners...

      { word1 | words combo2 | a few words now }
      you can also go with nesting ...
      { word1 | words combo2 | {a few words now| some more} | EDUmobile.ORG }

      - thats how the syntax works usually. Apply to words, sentences and paragraphs. Some spinners have built in thesaurus that will help you create unique spins.

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      The curly braces method of wrapping text is soooooo out of date. Not
      only are they easy to get in the wrong place if you're not careful, but it
      can be incredibly difficult to debug when you deal with a lot of text and
      their alternatives. This method tends to slow users down, as they have
      to constantly re-read everything they write to maintain quality.

      HTH

      Glenn
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      • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

        The curly braces method of wrapping text is soooooo out of date. snip
        nevertheless, jet spinner syntax is the market standard right now. The new generation of products coming up that output it automatically all (as far as I can tell) use it too. Maybe they should have a facility to specify the curly brace character if '{' gives you such a problem...
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      • Profile picture of the author milan
        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

        The curly braces method of wrapping text is soooooo out of date.
        Not true. That is a very powerful method. And is there a method that is better? Apart from writing your article again, of course.

        Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

        Not only are they easy to get in the wrong place if you're not careful, but it can be incredibly difficult to debug when you deal with a lot of text and their alternatives. This method tends to slow users down, as they have to constantly re-read everything they write to maintain quality.
        That's not a big problem. A spinner can help in a number of ways. For example, it can change the text coloring so it's very obvious if your brackets are not at the right places.
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        • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
          Originally Posted by milan View Post

          Not true. That is a very powerful method. And is there a method that is better? Apart from writing your article again, of course.


          8< snipped
          Yes, there are faster more efficient methods of marking your
          text. Simple colour coding with no delimiters is one method.

          HTH

          Glenn
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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by milan View Post

          Not true. That is a very powerful method. And is there a method that is better? Apart from writing your article again, of course.
          There are much better ways ... {word1|word2|word3} <--- That is so out of date and old technology, color coded or not. When Steven W. (no this is not a downplay on Steven, actually Steven is one of the most intelligent persons I know) can access my site with no instructions at all and work my spinner then I know I have done exactly what I wanted to do.. Create a human controlled spinner that was easy to run, even for a newbie or someone that has never run a spinner before.

          James
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          • Profile picture of the author Marty S
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            {word1|word2|word3} <--- That is so out of date and old technology, color coded or not.
            Funny thing you should mention this because since I have tried all of the human controlled spinners mentioned in this thread, the SLOW and OLD ones (at least to me) were the products that did NOT have the syntax coding and/or synonym replacement features.

            I understand that you and Glenn have competitive products too, but by no means either are what I would call "feature rich" compared to at least 3 others I know of.

            I encourage all users to try out yours AND

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            and then go from there, because the talk about the syntax characters is really a non-issue from my experience. It is likely, simply a personal preference.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

              Funny thing you should mention this because since I have tried all of the human controlled spinners mentioned in this thread, the SLOW and OLD ones (at least to me) were the products that did NOT have the syntax coding and/or synonym replacement features.

              I understand that you and Glenn have competitive products too, but by no means either are what I would call "feature rich" compared to at least 3 others I know of.

              I encourage all users to try out yours AND

              Power Article Rewriter
              Magic Article Rewriter
              Automatic Article Submitter

              and then go from there, because the talk about the syntax characters is really a non-issue from my experience. It is likely, simply a personal preference.
              Keep in mind Marty my website is way more than just a spinner, that is only one tool.. So when you want to talk about "featured rich" none of those tools mention can even come close to what my site offers. They are built for one purpose, to spin an article. My site is built to help you build your business.

              James
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            • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
              Originally Posted by Marty S View Post

              8< snipped

              I understand that you and Glenn have competitive products too, but by no means either are what I would call "feature rich" compared to at least 3 others I know of.

              8< snipped
              Some of the features of my system are not quite so obvious.

              For example, you can instruct my system to IGNORE the original article (or parts of it) if you wanted to, ensuring that there's a much lower chance of your spun articles being caught in the same traps as all the others who are using the same root article and spinning it. Your articles can be completely unique from the original.

              My system also uses Pseudo Artificial Intelligence when it works. It remembers what alternates you've used in the past. And when faced with them again in the future, it offers them back to you. The more you use my system, the more efficient it becomes. At a later date I hope to include a prepopulated database and offer an intelligent set of alternates... not like the automated crap we hear so much about.

              I can also ask my system to read a keyword list, and spin a fresh article for each one. My users can target keywords that nobody else pays any attention to because it's not worth their effort... But if you add the search volumes of these keywords up, it can lead to thousands that nobody else is interested in. Users can ignore common wisdom about ensuring several thousands of searches for a specific keyword now, and target ones that only have a few hundred searches, or even a few dozen in addition to the higher trafficked ones. Get 20 or 30 of these keywords, and you have a serious volume of searches and NO competition. There are several keywords that I own on Google in some very esoteric niches.

              Not to mention an interface a caveman can use.

              HTH

              Glenn
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post


                My system also uses Pseudo Artificial Intelligence when it works. It remembers what alternates you've used in the past. And when faced with them again in the future, it offers them back to you.
                My system also does this as it saves your spinpoint keys in the database for later use. You can keep them, reuse them, edit them or remove them...

                Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post


                Not to mention an interface a caveman can use.

                Glenn
                I love this, so easy a caveman can use it ...

                James
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          • Profile picture of the author milan
            Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

            There are much better ways ... {word1|word2|word3} <--- That is so out of date and old technology, color coded or not. When Steven W. (no this is not a downplay on Steven, actually Steven is one of the most intelligent persons I know) can access my site with no instructions at all and work my spinner then I know I have done exactly what I wanted to do.. Create a human controlled spinner that was easy to run, even for a newbie or someone that has never run a spinner before.

            James
            James, are your being serious?

            What's old and out of date there? What's to go out of date in a syntax?

            What you have in your program is definitely not any better. It's worse because it's much less readable and it's actually not too easy to use either. It takes more than one page to read an article with variations, that's bad. It's definitely not more efficient: switching between screens to write an article is not efficient.. Marking a place where the text variations are with a number... hm... okay, everybody likes what they do, but I please don't call that worth being a selling point.
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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by milan View Post

              James, are your being serious?

              What's old and out of date there? What's to go out of date in a syntax?

              What you have in your program is definitely not any better. It's worse because it's much less readable and it's actually not too easy to use either. It takes more than one page to read an article with variations, that's bad. It's definitely not more efficient: switching between screens to write an article is not efficient.. Marking a place where the text variations are with a number... hm... okay, everybody likes what they do, but I please don't call that worth being a selling point.
              I have no idea what you are talking about... Switch between screens ??? More than one Page ??? Marking with a number ???

              No idea what tool you are looking at but it sure is not mine.. The spinner is only the tip of the iceberg and only a small part of the power my site has...

              James
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              • Profile picture of the author milan
                Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                ...
                No idea what tool you are looking at but it sure is not mine..
                Here is a reference:
                James' Video
                The text variations are numbered {date1}, {date2} in your example, which doesn't have any meaning to the user. Even if the user does give a name,you still don't see the whole article at once as the text variations are hidden. This makes the article harder to read, and breaks your flow of thoughts while you're writing. Many people usually want to see the whole article at once while they're writing. The standard syntax with braces shows the whole article at once.
                To manage the "spin points" there you need to go to different screens, that's what I had in mind.

                I'm not bashing your software, it's just that I feel you're reinventing the wheel with what is supposedly "new", "modern" way. There are just no advantages to the 'new' system that you suggest. There is nothing modern about it.

                And how do you define variations within variations in your suggested way of spinning? Let's say I want to write different paragraphs, and then some different sentences within them. And perhaps replace a couple of words in the sentences. The standard syntax allows for unlimited number of nesting levels.


                Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                The spinner is only the tip of the iceberg and only a small part of the power my site has...
                What's that to do with this discussion? That's fine with me though. I have to ask you one more time: why do you report when somebody posts a related answer as spam, complain about that, and then post on the main forum like this? I'm not saying how you should behave, I'm just saying behave like you ask others to behave.
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                • Profile picture of the author SMS
                  Hey Guys,

                  How has a simple question about what a spinner is, turned into a 'my dad is bigger than yours' debate?

                  Drop it! It's unbecoming of you guys.

                  The market is big enuf for ya'all to survive without taking snap shots at each other.
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                  • Profile picture of the author milan
                    Originally Posted by SMS View Post

                    Hey Guys,

                    How has a simple question about what a spinner is, turned into a 'my dad is bigger than yours' debate?

                    Drop it! It's unbecoming of you guys.

                    The market is big enuf for ya'all to survive without taking snap shots at each other.
                    You're completely right, from the beginning this the debate is looking like advertising. That's what I didn't like in the first place. I normally let this go, but I got a bit tired of seeing some funny claims over and over... My opinion has nothing to do with marketing. I'm looking to see the available solutions, because that's what I'm into. I'm leaving this thread now...
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  • Profile picture of the author vishyboy
    was referencing syntax used with SENuk... and if you use that software its pretty easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyBlackSEO
    My article creator doesn't use the curly braces. It depends what your preference is. Some people like them and others don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Steel
    I've tried a couple of spinners before and I was not impressed. Ensure you understand what you are getting, and try to go for one with a trial period so you can see how good and is. This way you can figure out what's best for you and yours...

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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by Glenn Leader

    James We should really stop meeting like this James, people will talk.
    LOL .... Ok Glenn you just gave me a good laugh, thanks...

    Don't talk to much people might get to know about that new super human controlled spinner we are working on together in the background while nobody is looking.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Bogart
    I spin the articles I write for Free Traffic System (PM me for a link) with no problems at all. The backlinks are showing up at the Yahoo Backlink Checker as a matter of course. Not all of them immediately but some within 24 hours.

    I use no software to spin, and find that doing it manually only ads about 10 minutes to my writing process. Free Traffic System uses this syntax:

    [spin]word1|word2|word3[/spin]

    If you spin 2 words per paragraph you get plenty of different versions and no duplicate content problems. The backlinks (even the PR0 backlinks) have proven useful SEO results-wise. FTS gets me 30 postings per article and I pick the niche of the WP blogs it posts to.

    I get less results from SENuke but enough that it is useful. There are several other of these kind of programs, but I use these two mostly and am happy with the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeGriffith
    An article spinner is software that rearranges and rewrites your article. I have tried a couple and they seem to work out ok. The only problem I've had is that in many cases the new article is somewhat jumbled and hard to read. And I end up rewriting the "rewrite" in my own words.

    In other words, the "spun" article doesn't always reflect the way I write, especially if I'm using PLR articles. If you're going to use spinners, I think it might be better to start with your own articles.

    Have a great day.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by MikeGriffith View Post

      An article spinner is software that rearranges and rewrites your article. I have tried a couple and they seem to work out ok. The only problem I've had is that in many cases the new article is somewhat jumbled and hard to read. And I end up rewriting the "rewrite" in my own words.

      In other words, the "spun" article doesn't always reflect the way I write, especially if I'm using PLR articles. If you're going to use spinners, I think it might be better to start with your own articles.

      Have a great day.
      Exactly Mike ... 100% correct ... Use your own articles and your own writting, not some pre-set dabase, not some junk plr that was giving away to millions on a jv giveaway, not some replacement words.

      Use the proper tool and use your "own" writting, this will always produce 100% high quality unique rewritten articles. Only way you could mess it up is if you the writer made a mistake on the writting.

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Originally Posted by makemoneygirl View Post

    I really don't think article spinners softwares could offer relevant help in you wanted to generate quality results for the articles that you want to spin. I have tried it once, even the latest article spinners on the market right now, and was not really satisfied with the results. I usually do outsource all my write up projects these days.
    Did you know using the proper tool you could triple the value of that outsourced work ?

    He is something many miss also.. Ok let's say you have your original article and you hire someone to rewrite it for you. What you would ask is for them to take 3 paragraphs from that article and supply you with 3 completely 100% rewritten paragraphs.

    Now once they do that and give it to you then you go to a proper spinner and put the original article in with the 100% rewritten paragraphs as alternatives. Then you spin the article and you will be safe to do it 20 times. Make sure you add about 5 different titles also.

    Now you should easily have 20 articles that are atleast 60% in unigueness and fully readable because everything was written by hand. You only paid around $12 for those 20 articles though.

    So $12, 20 minutes of your time and you have 20 unique articles that was fully human controlled. You see there is nobody that is going to write you 20 articles for $12 and there is no writer that could write 20 articles in 20 minutes.

    That is the power of a properly used tool, even if you do want to outsource the writing.

    James
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  • Profile picture of the author spilksch
    As of now I've been using Power Article Rewriter. It's a great tool, and different from what I've found online. Basically you are the one inputting new sentences/words into the article, which the program then spins to create new articles, and hopefully you wrote well enough to retain the original meaning of the article.
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  • Profile picture of the author webhosting134
    I've been using Magic Article Rewriterfor quite a while, not much problem at all !
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