Does a niche site need to sell something to make money?

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Hey guys,
Just a quick "noob" question about niche sites, do they have to sell something to make a decent amount of money? Like I know there is adsense and stuff but could people really make a living of that? There was a post on here yesterday about a guy who sold the website What Do Tadpoles Eat and claimed it was making money from it before he sold it for over £1,000 (GBP) and i'm kinda thinking....really? how? there is no advertising as far as i can see or anything!
I'm sorry if this is really silly sounding post but I'm confused! haha
I was thinking of starting a dreadlock niche site but didn't really plan on selling any products, would there be any other kind of way to monetize this?

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By "dreadlock site" i mean one talking about how to care for dreadlocks, how to get them etc, it's got quite a high search volume and low competition plus I have them so......good idea? haha

Thanks a LOT for any responses!
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  • Profile picture of the author sanhal
    There is advertising on that site now. Can't see how you could make money with a site otherwise unless it was selling something.

    People who make a living from adsense or other ads have a number of niche sites not just one.

    If you got enough traffic to your dreadlock site you could sell banner advertising.
    Why not sell affiliate products or build a list by giving away a free report and then monetize the list?

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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    Controversial sites that this one can always fetch handsome amount when sold. There are people who have money to pay and turn that site into a hobby and earn later on.
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  • Profile picture of the author mizambar
    Yeah I also see advertising on the site now.

    For your dreadlock site, do you plan on using Adsense or any other sort of advertising? Regardless of "what" you decide to do, I STRONGLY recommend starting with an email list. You might find a good income-generator down the road, and it'll be nice to have that group of subscribers that you've built from the beginning.

    Perhaps, find the *problem* that people with dreadlocks have...write a short report on it. Make it step-by-step, add in some videos. Then anyone who comes to your site can get all the information in a single, condensed format.
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    • Profile picture of the author Danny McConnell
      Well, ya gotta sell something!

      Adsense spots, banners, affiliate products (physical or electronic), or your own stuff.

      Or all of the above. You just have to choose which.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Originally Posted by Danny McConnell View Post

        Well, ya gotta sell something!

        Adsense spots, banners, affiliate products (physical or electronic), or your own stuff.

        Or all of the above. You just have to choose which.

        Yeah even with Adsense there is a type of Selling.

        You have to get people to click on your Ads to make money.

        So there has to be some persuading i.e. where you put your Ads , also providing Laser targeted and specific content on your Site that will persuade (sell to) Google to put highly relative Ads on yout Site that readers will want to click on.
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    • Profile picture of the author efil4renots
      Originally Posted by mizambar View Post

      Yeah I also see advertising on the site now.

      For your dreadlock site, do you plan on using Adsense or any other sort of advertising? Regardless of "what" you decide to do, I STRONGLY recommend starting with an email list. You might find a good income-generator down the road, and it'll be nice to have that group of subscribers that you've built from the beginning.

      Perhaps, find the *problem* that people with dreadlocks have...write a short report on it. Make it step-by-step, add in some videos. Then anyone who comes to your site can get all the information in a single, condensed format.
      I never thought of the kind of eBook/video thing to get emails for the dreadlock site, just my IM site really but there are a few common problems, thanks for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Tandan
    To answer your primary question, no - not necessarily. A site doesn't actually have to sell anything to make decent money, provided it's getting solid quality traffic. Adsense is one way to go for sure.
    One of the best ways to monetize is with affiliate products, but in that case the visitor has to buy before the site earns.
    The compromise is having CPA (cost per action) offers on the site. In these situations the visitor doesn't necessarily have to purchase anything, rather perform some action such as enter an email address or fill out an info form. Huge amount of info on CPA in this forum and elsewhere.

    Great question, and hope this has helped you out!
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    • Profile picture of the author efil4renots
      Originally Posted by Mark Tandan View Post

      To answer your primary question, no - not necessarily. A site doesn't actually have to sell anything to make decent money, provided it's getting solid quality traffic. Adsense is one way to go for sure.
      One of the best ways to monetize is with affiliate products, but in that case the visitor has to buy before the site earns.
      The compromise is having CPA (cost per action) offers on the site. In these situations the visitor doesn't necessarily have to purchase anything, rather perform some action such as enter an email address or fill out an info form. Huge amount of info on CPA in this forum and elsewhere.

      Great question, and hope this has helped you out!

      Thanks a lot for your input, I'm just not too sure about dreadlock related CPA offers, well not on Max Bounty anyway! haha
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    • Profile picture of the author efil4renots
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      if he is not selling anything, maybe there are free offers people sign up for and he gets money. cpa offers
      I haven't tried anything as of yet, I am still just looking into it as an option! Having dreadlocks for 8 years has taught me a few things so wondered if it could be a possible money earner!
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      • Profile picture of the author Steve B
        Originally Posted by efil4renots View Post

        I haven't tried anything as of yet, I am still just looking into it as an option! Having dreadlocks for 8 years has taught me a few things so wondered if it could be a possible money earner!

        Stoner,

        There are literally millions of quirky, weird, little niche sites scattered all over the Internet that make money for their owners. What separates these sites from all the quirky, weird, niche sites that don't make money is that they get traffic and they sell something. "Selling" can take on many, many forms which includes referring others to offers that are not yours (affiliate sales, banner ads, CPA, and all the rest). Selling could also be for products (like on Amazon) or your own product. Usually with small niches most marketers would turn to creating their own products because of the high profit margin (which you typically don't get with affiliate sales).

        I would suggest you create your own information product about dreadlocks and sell it to your subscribers. There are all kinds of helps here at the Warrior Forum to guide you through the process of product creation, setting up a simple sales web site, developing a sales funnel, and driving traffic to your site (offer).

        You said the competition in the niche isn't too great. Wonderful! Sometimes you have to think outside the box a little to come up with info product ideas. As others have mentioned, one way to do that is to think of all the tricks, tips, and knowledge you have about dreadlocks. What has your experience in the niche taught you after all these years? What can you offer to other dreadlocks fans that will help them? Save them time and money? Guide them in avoiding mistakes? You are the expert - put yourself out there and boldly offer your experience in the field.

        Affiliate sales can make you a little money, but if you want to turn this "hobby" (if that's what it's called) into a full time income, you've got to be bold and set yourself up as "the only logical choice" for someone that wants dreadlocks. It sounds like the space is wide open . . . but you'll never be the 800 lb. gorilla in the niche if you don't mark your territory (with an "authority" web site) and start sharing everything you know about the niche.

        You can do it if you focus, are persistent, and aren't afraid of a little work!

        The very best to you,

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author efil4renots
          Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

          Stoner,

          There are literally millions of quirky, weird, little niche sites scattered all over the Internet that make money for their owners. What separates these sites from all the quirky, weird, niche sites that don't make money is that they get traffic and they sell something. "Selling" can take on many, many forms which includes referring others to offers that are not yours (affiliate sales, banner ads, CPA, and all the rest). Selling could also be for products (like on Amazon) or your own product. Usually with small niches most marketers would turn to creating their own products because of the high profit margin (which you typically don't get with affiliate sales).

          I would suggest you create your own information product about dreadlocks and sell it to your subscribers. There are all kinds of helps here at the Warrior Forum to guide you through the process of product creation, setting up a simple sales web site, developing a sales funnel, and driving traffic to your site (offer).

          You said the competition in the niche isn't too great. Wonderful! Sometimes you have to think outside the box a little to come up with info product ideas. As others have mentioned, one way to do that is to think of all the tricks, tips, and knowledge you have about dreadlocks. What has your experience in the niche taught you after all these years? What can you offer to other dreadlocks fans that will help them? Save them time and money? Guide them in avoiding mistakes? You are the expert - put yourself out there and boldly offer your experience in the field.

          Affiliate sales can make you a little money, but if you want to turn this "hobby" (if that's what it's called) into a full time income, you've got to be bold and set yourself up as "the only logical choice" for someone that wants dreadlocks. It sounds like the space is wide open . . . but you'll never be the 800 lb. gorilla in the niche if you don't mark your territory (with an "authority" web site) and start sharing everything you know about the niche.

          You can do it if you focus, are persistent, and aren't afraid of a little work!

          The very best to you,

          Steve
          Thank-You VERY MUCH i'm definitly gonna into doing this! it still surprises me how helpful people here are on the Warrior Forum and also well spotted on the name, I'm sure people often think it's foreign! haha
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by tristatemedia View Post

      if he is not selling anything, maybe there are free offers people sign up for and he gets money. cpa offers

      It can still be argued he is selling and persuading them to click on free offers telling them they might earn this amount of money, if they for instance sign up for a free survey site.
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  • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
    Originally Posted by efil4renots View Post

    Hey guys,
    Just a quick "noob" question about niche sites, do they have to sell something to make a decent amount of money? Like I know there is adsense and stuff but could people really make a living of that? There was a post on here yesterday about a guy who sold the website What Do Tadpoles Eat and claimed it was making money from it before he sold it for over £1,000 (GBP) and i'm kinda thinking....really? how? there is no advertising as far as i can see or anything!
    I'm sorry if this is really silly sounding post but I'm confused! haha
    I was thinking of starting a dreadlock niche site but didn't really plan on selling any products, would there be any other kind of way to monetize this?

    Note

    By "dreadlock site" i mean one talking about how to care for dreadlocks, how to get them etc, it's got quite a high search volume and low competition plus I have them so......good idea? haha

    Thanks a LOT for any responses!
    That was my website I sold it in august last year. I got the site generating over 1,000 unique visitors for a while and the buyer is still very pleased with it and apparently it's a strong earning site.

    You can take a look at the stats on flippa where I sold it - https://flippa.com/2959554-autopilot...-making-173-mo
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  • Profile picture of the author Trent Pill
    You can also make good money with free sites. You can put advertising on the site and make money or you can just build a list with free memberships. You can then market to that last later as you go with simlar interest products.
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    • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
      Originally Posted by Trent Pill View Post

      You can also make good money with free sites. You can put advertising on the site and make money or you can just build a list with free memberships. You can then market to that last later as you go with simlar interest products.
      Your better getting your own domains and hosting.
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  • Profile picture of the author karlmay1980
    As someone who has been mentoring and working with Larry who set up and sold "WhatDoTadpolesEat.com" for about 15 months, I know all his claims are true.

    He does make a healthy profit monthly from his sites and also reinvests a lot back into his new projects to build his portfolio.

    He also works very hard himself and shows great attitude to building sites the right way for longevity and not for quick profits.

    He shows great patience and attention to detail in the development process to make sure a site is optimised to reach its best potential.

    He has a model and system he uses on each project to build sites to minimise the risk of a Google update that will suddenly wipe out the rankings, and subsequently earnings.

    His goal is to build a number of these sites to gain a reliable residual income that will allow him to employ a small team to maintain and develop new sites using his system allowing him time and freedom to work and live how he pleases, while still earning a great income from his businesses.

    While one site might give you a nice little extra income every week, its not going to give you a lifestyle of freedom and so to have that you will need to develop a number first.

    Larrys sites have earned income from AdSense, Amazon referrals, CPA offers plus possibilities of other affiliate offers.

    He tends to test each option when sites first rank to see what works best, or which combination is better.

    I hope this has helped a few people get an idea of what it takes to build a business online to gain an income and lifestyle that will be returned many times on the initial investment, but it does take time and it does take work.

    Larry might not be well known in the online business world at the moment, but I am sure you will see him up with the top names in the market over the next few years because of his determination, character and understanding of how he is going to achieve the overall goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author larryboy03
      Originally Posted by karlmay1980 View Post

      As someone who has been mentoring and working with Larry who set up and sold "WhatDoTadpolesEat.com" for about 15 months, I know all his claims are true.

      He does make a healthy profit monthly from his sites and also reinvests a lot back into his new projects to build his portfolio.

      He also works very hard himself and shows great attitude to building sites the right way for longevity and not for quick profits.

      He shows great patience and attention to detail in the development process to make sure a site is optimised to reach its best potential.

      He has a model and system he uses on each project to build sites to minimise the risk of a Google update that will suddenly wipe out the rankings, and subsequently earnings.

      His goal is to build a number of these sites to gain a reliable residual income that will allow him to employ a small team to maintain and develop new sites using his system allowing him time and freedom to work and live how he pleases, while still earning a great income from his businesses.

      While one site might give you a nice little extra income every week, its not going to give you a lifestyle of freedom and so to have that you will need to develop a number first.

      Larrys sites have earned income from AdSense, Amazon referrals, CPA offers plus possibilities of other affiliate offers.

      He tends to test each option when sites first rank to see what works best, or which combination is better.

      I hope this has helped a few people get an idea of what it takes to build a business online to gain an income and lifestyle that will be returned many times on the initial investment, but it does take time and it does take work.

      Larry might not be well known in the online business world at the moment, but I am sure you will see him up with the top names in the market over the next few years because of his determination, character and understanding of how he is going to achieve the overall goal.
      Thanks Karl, you have been a great help to me and my success so far.
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    People with the right character, attitude and determination deserve all the success they can get Larry and its been a pleasure helping you generate your!
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  • Profile picture of the author In the know
    By "dreadlock site" i mean one talking about how to care for dreadlocks, how to get them etc, it's got quite a high search volume and low competition plus I have them so......good idea? haha

    Thanks a LOT for any responses! [/QUOTE]

    There are so many products for dreadlocks, seems like a terrific niche

    - Combs
    -Shampoos
    -extensions
    -How to Info products

    Dreadlock extensions has 317,000 results on google UK, so might be easy to rank...

    Bargain !
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  • Profile picture of the author Soccerwidow
    Selling (own) products is certainly one way of monetising a website. However, if there is NO competition for similar niche products this would ring my bells as this may mean that there may be no demand.

    The higher the demand the more people are travelling on the train. Just think of car dealers and how many of them are around, each making a good living from their business.

    I must admit that I don't know anything about dreadlocks, but if you want to make money with this particular niche then you need to find something with existing demand and people's willingness to pay for it. If this something is cheap then thousands of visitors may be necessary to make some decent money. The normal conversion rates of websites are around 1-2% and if a product pays only little then many sales are necessary. However, if it is something expensive then, of course, just a few interested people are probably more than enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    To answer your question, "no" it doesn't.

    But would be nice though. Selling things from your site isn't so bad. Especially if you're getting alot of traffic to it.

    You could build up a great site in a niche, super hot content, alot of followers... then sell on Flippa for crazy dough. Or... just suggest products. You'd make money either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
    A dredlock site would be excellent, because it's a subject that's trending up, up, up in popularity. With both men and women. You're even starting to see other races besides African, Jamaican and African Americans wearing them.
    "Who woulda thought?"

    This is definitely what I would call a starving market. The myth more people are finding out is it takes a lot of care to look good. And people are starving for quicker, better and longer lasting ways to care for their dreads.

    If you can provide a service or product that makes somethng easier, faster, better or longer lasting, etc. for dredlock wearers, you're golden.

    You don't have to sell (par se) but you can review, recommend or refer.
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