My observation about this board

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I realized frequently here that people ask questions, these questions get answered quickly, which is good.

But if there are follow-ups to clarify, questions regarding the answers, in most cases the authors don't reply. If on the other hand a new topic is being created, those people who didn't reply to the follow-up questions are again the first to answer, so they are on this board and choose to be the first to reply with not always clear replies.

Finally PMs with follow-up questions are usually not being replied to.

Why is that so?
#main internet marketing discussion forum #board #observation
  • To clarify

    Please provide links to some examples of what you mean, then maybe a answer can be provided

    al
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  • This is a very active forum, people don't have the time to stay here all day long and answer every thread. It is difficult to follow up on every post.

    You can watch a new thread put up on the main forum, and in a few hours it is on page two or three. If you are waiting for clarification to your question the person may not even know it. I'm not speaking for everyone here, but some people abuse the private messages so they get ignored.
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    • DWolfe, so what is your suggestion to get useful replies to follow up questions then?
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  • I know some other forum software has Facebook-like notifications. I think that would be extremely helpful for improving ongoing conversations!
  • There is a tremendous amount of automation, outsource created, and bot content on these forums. That is why. This is why a LOT of users on these forums have pictures that are stolen from Facebook, online dating websites, etc.
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    • One of the issues may be (in addition to the above mentioned reason) that they don't know that you have responded and are awaiting a response. As an example of this, I have never received an email from this forum indicating that someone has responded to my question. Most other forums, if I created a thread or responded to a thread, I am automatically subscribed to that thread and receive notifications of updates to subscribed threads by email. On the Warrior, this never seems to happen. Maybe its just me thats not getting notified. Maybe I don't have a setting set correctly, although i have looked pretty close at all my settings and if it is this hard to get notified that a thread has been replied to for me, then I would bet there are others out there that are not getting notified that a thread has been responded to. When I want to see if a thread has been responded to, I have to go search for the thread using the search feature (if I remember to) and then drill down into the thread to see. Like I said, maybe its just me, I'm certainly not the sharpest tack in the box, but if I can't get notified I would bet there are others not getting notified also.
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  • To the questions on the board that you know an answer to, how many times have you answered it?

    These board are a 2 way street. If you browse through here and can answer some questions yourself, that would also help.

    When I come on here I am often seeing people critical of the board as a whole, but most people are trying to answer the best they can.

    It's much easier to point out the flaws, but harder to be a part of the solution.

    Kate
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    • You may want to pay a little bit of money and find a private mentor to give you the personal attention you are looking for. This could be an individual or even a private members only forum in a program you join.

      I have always found members in the Warrior Forum to be very helpful, but I understand they are busy with full time jobs, online businesses, family etc. and the free time they generously donate can only go so far.
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  • My observations about this board are:

    1. Those that do their best to add value build better relationships, establish a better reputation, and get better answers.

    2. Just about everyone can add value if they are willing. For example a CPA knows a lot about business that would help a lot of people whether their business was mainly online or brick and mortar. A student may be able to add encouragement to someone having a hard day. A stay at home mom may can add her two cents about whether a website is attractive to her and what she would do to improve it. Even if she isn't an expert on web design she's probably seen enough "good" websites to help someone out a little.

    3. A lot of advice given on here is baseless and worthless. That's one reason to get involved so we can get to know who knows what and who can help with what.

    4. For the most part, laziness isn't rewarded. For example, searching through the forum search function or through Google would be a good first step before asking any question.

    5. Those with very few posts and very little contribution are the ones that scream the loudest about the unhelpful nature of the rest of us.

    6. Those of us with a few years under our belt may get unwound too and raise our voices every now and again but we normally quickly control ourselves because we know the value offered here and don't want to lose it.

    7. Idiocy normally isn't tolerated very well. Having a signature file touting big bucks with the push of a button doesn't go very well with a post asking how to get traffic or complaining about not having any money.

    Mark
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  • The better question to ask yourself the next time this comes up is:

    How can I help more people?

    Instead of:

    Why don't more people help me?

    You will probably get a much better response.

    Kate
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    • I need to be qualified to do this. And the very reason I am asking here is that I am not. I will not give another of those low quality replies that I despise myself in this thread just to come across as "trying to help".
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  • There needs to be more subforums on here.

    Every time I post a thread, I get 2 responses before the thread drops to the bottom like a rock because there are dozens of threads created after those initial responses.

    If you break this site up into more sub forums, you can get rid of this problem.
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  • John nailed it. Some posters do drive-by postings and may not follow the thread.

    Some posters, like myself, will post where I think I can contribute, but I don't always monitor the threads I particpate in as many of my answers are one-shot postings (they don't require any follow up). That doesn't mean people won't more detail or have questions.

    I have businesses to run and a staff to oversee, and an operations manager that I work closely with. So sometimes it's a matter of priorities and time management.

    There are 3 types of PMs that I receive on a weekly basis:

    * Spam
    * People asking for help
    * People asking for a JV

    If I replied to every single PM from a person asking for help, I would never get my work done. That's just the reality; I have to prioritize whom I am going to respond to. If I receive a PM from a friend here or someone I've known for years or done business with in the past, their PM gets priority.

    If a customer from one of my offerings contacts me that way, they get priority.

    But if someone I don't know asks me for help or has a question, I will only respond if:

    a. They were respectful
    b. I have the time.

    I know of some Warriors who NEVER respond to any of their PMs. Many of them have disabled the Private Messaging feature because of the dearth of messages they would get.

    Sometimes it could be your approach, but sometimes it's not.

    RoD
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  • Banned
    I would imagine that people responding to your posts feel like they're talking to a wall too. You got some excellent answers to your questions in the posts you listed, but you either didn't like or understand the answers.

    I suspect you're missing the point of what this forum is all about - it's a "Discussion" forum, with voluntary participation by it's members. No one has an obligation to respond at all.

    You seem to think that if you post a question, the answers you want will be forthcoming and members should drop what they're doing to respond and help you privately.

    Great sense of entitlement there :rolleyes:

    I turned off PM's for that very reason - if I'm going to answer a question, I'll do it in the forum where others can benefit, not just one person. And I'll only do it if I feel like it and have the time...not because someone is demanding I reply to them.

    This isn't a "take me by the hand and build my business for me" forum. You post something, members discuss it, share their insights and experience and if you're smart, you can glean the information you're after from it.

    You don't stomp your feet and say, "I need more replies to this".

    Questions that don't have a clear, black and white answer aren't going to get one. What they're going to get are opinions, examples from personal experience and suggestions for you to try various methods.

    In one post, John Taylor gave you a terrific answer to your question and you literally asked him to provide you with a bad answer using made up, "Ballpark" data that I guess you thought he should just pull out of his ass.

    While individuals can and do benefit from participation here, this forum is intended to help the community as whole in a more general sense. You post a question, get answers and then others benefit from the discussion.

    If you want a clear answer, then post questions with simple yes or no answers.
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  • Another thing is, aside asking questions and expecting getting replies to other questions popping up as a result of the first been asked, a good number of people might see it as going too far than what they are willing to give for FREE. Don't expect to be spoon fed.

    Also, you must learn to search through the tons of threads already existing. There is a likelihood that your questions have been rehearsed over and over again.
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    • Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

      I didn't get a teaching how to fish. And I wasn't pointed to a school for fishing. What I am getting is on the level of "To fish, you just go out to the sea".

      Nobody is in the place to claim that this was good advice - if you still do, you are trolling and not worth my time.

      If you feel oh so entitled because your little company consumes so much of your time, why don't you give me information about books and courses that deal with my problem and have a genuine interest in helping?

      Even if information is free I do not put up with everything. And neither do you, so don't be a hypocrite.
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  • Tobi,

    You would be better off going to Kindle or to the WSO section and paying for a good training/instructional product. Unless you have the time and determination to search through past threads you will not learn everything you seem to need by asking questions here.

    You don't learn to fish by asking questions one at a time at a forum of fishermen. You might learn some unique and specialized pointers but that is about it.
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  • So Tobi, in essence, what you want is a group of people at your beck & call who will answer questions about your online business, provide advice, and help you make money online - all for free? And then you start criticizing THE most popular and helpful Internet marketing forum out there because you are too lazy to do actual research for your business yourself (research = 2-3 searches on Google and a couple clicks) - you'd rather have someone "point you in the right direction".

    Not gonna happen.

    Jeez, we're not gonna change your diapers and hold your hand throughout your IM journey.

    Sheesh. Some people want the world handed to them on a silver platter without giving so much as a "thanks".
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  • The truth is that every single post on this thread thus far has been correct. You are correct Tobi that it seems many people are just posting away without giving any 'real' value. However it is also true that many are genuinely on here giving of their time and effort for free without anyone putting any money in their hands to do so.

    There are tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of posts and threads coming thru here on a regular basis. Because of that no one person will be able to spend too much time with any one individual as time would not allow. Also because of this great amount of threads and posts many questions have already been answered over and over again. And many people seeking answers just don't take enough time to give it a good searching through.

    It has been recommended that you might want to find a personal mentor or coach to help you out with your specific needs. There must be plenty of them that are fluent in German. It's always best if one can enjoy what they do online. That becomes impossible when too much stress and frustration gets involved. Even if you don't realize it at first.

    Maybe reconsidering spending a few dollars and a little time finding a German or bilingual (German/English) mentor might be the way to go after all.
  • This has not been my experience at all! I have asked questions 2 and 3 times and have always gotten responses. I love the Warrior Forum!
  • I'm guessing when you call someone's advice "useless," despite them giving it to you freely on a forum to help you, not many people are going to line up and hold your hand. This is what you wrote in response to one member's reply:

    "Pure, Simple and useless advice."

    Why would I waste my time helping you when this is your attitude?
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  • There are lots of different "levels" of forum. There's here. More focused Facebook groups. Paid forums. Hybrids. Etc. I personally don't expect one place to do everything. I just try to fit in wherever I am. Add value. I think you're trying to force a round peg into a square hole.
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    • here's how to get the help you want, Tobi:

      treat others the way you want to be treated.
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  • So tobi, how's that self entitlement treating you?
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    Honestly, why would anyone want to answer you at all? They are not obligated to and when someone does and they receive an answer from you like this why would anyone bother?

    You received a lot of good advice in that thread, but just kept saying, I need more replies.

    Then another thread, you kept insisting on "numbers" instead of the detailed and thoughtful replies you were getting:

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    I realized frequently here that people ask questions, these questions get answered quickly, which is good. But if there are follow-ups to clarify, questions regarding the answers, in most cases the authors don't reply. If on the other hand a new topic is being created, those people who didn't reply to the follow-up questions are again the first to answer, so they are on this board and choose to be the first to reply with not always clear replies.