Staring Down the Barrel of Bankruptcy

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Hi guys,

Like most people out there today, my financial situation is pretty dire. I am seriously VERY close to bankruptcy and am looking for direction, motivation, inspiration, whatever it takes to get me out of this very dark hole.
I've been researching IM & MMO for at least 12 months now and have what I guess would be considered a lot of knowledge on these topics, but unfortunately, no practical experience.
I have 3 wonderful daughters aged 4, 2 and my youngest turned 1 today, so needless to say, I am very busy with them and running a household. This is one of the main reasons my learning has been very disjointed as some days I have no chance of getting online. Now that my youngest is a little older, I hope to be able to dedicate around 15 hrs a week (at night) to MMO, but I am feeling completely lost.
I need some sage advice from you wise Warriors, what would you recommend to start making some serious cash with the time I have available?
I'm a highly skilled writer with a background in print publishing and editing (book, magazine & newspaper), I also have a very keen eye for design, both print and digital. I'm also a published children's book author.
I have LOADS of ideas and am an entrepreneur at heart and see the internet as a vast opportunity for me, I just need to know what you believe is the best way to jump into making some money without having to spend much to get started - Adsense? Article Marketing? Web design and content writing? CPA?
I know I need to take action and that I have quite a bit of fear holding me back, but with the limited time and funds I have available, I need to focus on what really WORKS.
Any advice you can pass on would be greatly appreciated.
This is my first post here and I'm feeling a little fragile, so please, be gentle!

Cheers,
Sissy76
#bankruptcy #barrel #make money online #staring
  • Profile picture of the author Harry Behrens
    Sissy76, welcome to the warrior forum I can appreciate your situation and have the greatest sympathy having been in similar myself.

    Having said that... my suggestion to you is this: You need to start trying stuff out. You need to get out of that mindset of "I can only focus on what is going to work." No. Listen to me: You have what it takes. With your credentials that you list on your post you can EASILY start making something online.

    But you NEED to start trying stuff. Just trying it. Try anything. See it through to the end, then try something else. And yes, sometimes, in the beginning sometimes, some of the stuff you try is going to fail. That's how it is. You just prepare yourself for that and you keep on going. You just have to let go of that mindset that you have to avoid failure. Embrace failure.

    Don't think "I need to focus on what works"... no. That is the road to paralysis. Think "I need to TRY some stuff, SEE what works out of all that stuff that I try, and then focus on what I HAVE SEEN works."

    You're a writer. So look at this other thread. http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-research.html Forget about everything else. Do exactly what it says and bring your writer skills to bear. If the first one does nothing? Do another one. Until one of them works. Then come back and give Frank a Thanks

    Again. You have what it takes. If you put the experience you mention in your post together with some massive, unabashed, so-what-if-I-fail-I'm-gonna-try-it-anyway good ol' fashioned action, you WILL have results. Only after you have those results can you THEN focus on what has worked. That is the path. Guaranteed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Susan Hope
    Hi Sissy (is that your first name? if not, apologies)

    Sounds like you have a lot of skills you can use there. I know what it's like to be in your position (I was in the same a few years ago and did end up losing my home, marriage, you name it, I lost it, but enough of that).

    Let's get some positive action going.

    How about article writing and how about writing articles for others, I will be in need of some articles writing for me soon (I do have a another writer I will be using but I could also try you out too).

    So if you were to do me an article (which gives you some practice) then I will install a blog for you, free and host it for you, free, at least say for the first year (if this doesn't work out for you then you can simply walk away) but then at least you will know you have tried.

    Then on the blog you can start building yourself a website so that you can advertise your services. If your article is good, I will give you a testimonial as well to go on the site.

    You could also offer to do some free articles for other warriors to get some more experience and hopefully testimonials (I would say no more than 5) and then you start charging.

    What you will be putting in is the work of course, I will put in the installation and hosting of WP for one year to try and give you a start.

    I am not a writer so I outsource, but other warriors can give you tons of advise for that.

    So leave a message here if you want me to pm you (don't think you can use PM yet, not enough posts). If that's not the way you want to go then fair enough, not a problem.

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam101
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    If you need immediate cash income and you are good at writing, why not try freelance article writing (side by side with your research)? It will not yield much ( I think about $2-5 per article), but at least it will make your cash register jingle and you can make some new contacts. Besides if you can really churn out unique content fast, this should make you at least $20-$30 per day (I know it may seem peanuts, but you can get started immediately).
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    • Profile picture of the author scattermouse
      Freelance article writing is a fantastic way to make some cash, especially if you're a skilled writer - and the quality of your original post already sets you above a lot of so-called "quality" article writers.

      Writing the articles is the easy part - the hard part is getting the work, but you've come to the right place for that. There are absolutely truckloads of warriors who outsource all of their article writing, and are prepared to pay for it.

      There's no way you should charge $2-$5 per article. Seriously, that's just ridiculous. If you write quality articles you should get an absolute minimum of $10 an article, and that really is an absolute minimum.

      Anyway, to get off my hobby horse...

      A lot of us here have been in a similar situation to you, so you should know that you can do it - you have the abilities to be successful and to look after your family. I know that it can be very stressful having to care for young children, especially with financial worries on top of that, but the best advice I can give you is to try to stay positive.

      Whichever IM path you take, and there are so many it's easy to get overwhelmed, you can succeed as long as you keep trying things and keep working. Try to stay focused on one thing, and see it through to the end.

      Good luck,
      scattermouse
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam101
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    Oops, Susan, you beat me to it! I was writing the same thing (about article writing etc) and when I posted and refreshed my page I found that you had written about the same thing......
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    • Profile picture of the author Susan Hope
      Originally Posted by Sam101 View Post

      Oops, Susan, you beat me to it! I was writing the same thing (about article writing etc) and when I posted and refreshed my page I found that you had written about the same thing......
      Was just about to say the same thing Sam, great minds think alike eh.

      Two votes for freelance article writer Sissy (Sam, your terminology was better than mine LOL).

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author hangtimenino
        Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

        Thanks so much Sue & Sam for your advice.

        As a writer, I've been leaning towards article writing, but never thought of offering my services here. I was looking more at elance, but their fees are a little prohibitive for me at the moment.

        Sue, I'd love for you to PM me and talk to you more about your offer.

        Thanks to you both for being so generous with your time.

        Sissy
        Try odesk.com, no fees needed, but competition is a bit steep, since its flooded with providers. but you can try,i saw a lot of openings that suit your credentials.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
          Hi guys,

          Wow! I'm completely overwhelmed and humbled by the respone I've received on this forum about my situation.
          Honestly, my heart is singing with joy from the plethora of positive and encouraging replies I've had.
          The generosity of you all is so inspiring.
          This really is a great community to be a part of, I'm so glad I took the plunge and reached out for help.
          I have a sick toddler at the moment, so have limited time to respond to everyone, but bear with me as I'll get back to everyone in a few hours time.
          Seriously guys, you're the antidote to the analysis paralysis I've been suffering from.
          Much success to you all.

          Sissy
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          • Profile picture of the author happygeekgirl
            Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

            Hi guys,
            Seriously guys, you're the antidote to the analysis paralysis I've been suffering from.
            Sissy
            Well there's a million dollar idea if ever I heard one! Invent an analysis paralysis antidote with a motovational, confidence booster side effect!

            I know someone who can ship it by Semi - as Ill be buying it by the truck load load!

            Love Lau Lau xx
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          • Profile picture of the author happygeekgirl
            Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

            Hi guys,

            Seriously guys, you're the antidote to the analysis paralysis I've been suffering from.

            Sissy
            Well there's a million dollar idea if ever I heard one!

            Invent an analysis paralysis antidote with a motivational, confidence booster side effect!

            I know a great bloke (names Reg) who can ship it by Semi - Ill be buying it by the truckload load!

            Love Lau Lau xx
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            • Profile picture of the author mrmatt
              There is probably a relatively large market out there wanting to know how to get their childrens book published.

              You can create an audio all about the steps they need to take to get it published, how to work the system, how to hire a publicist, etc.

              Build a simple sales page site, get set up with click bank, start contacting webmasters of different writers sites and just promote the heck out of it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
            Mike,

            Thanks so much for your posts. You've been so very helpful and I must say, made me smile in your first post with the comparison to those now bankrupt corporations -my husband said exactly the same thing yesterday morning. I guess I should consider myself in good company in one way!

            I too, am a stickler for correct spelling, grammar and punctuation. Don't get me started on anacronymns and their decimation of the English language!! Our passion doesn't make us nerds, we're just right! I also regularly say a prayer over the death of the possesive apostrophe for the letter 's'. Jesus's instead of Jesus' will never meet my approval .

            So I really should take your advice and look into a proofreading service. I admit I've often wondered how some of these 'gurus' can consider themselves such elite professionals with the amount of errors I encounter in their sales copy every day. Then again, they're out there making money and I'm writing about anacronymns and possesive apostrophes in the Warrior Forum!

            Thanks for your quotes, they're very inspirational. You'll be hearing me roar soon!!

            Cheers,
            Sissy
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          • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
            Hi Sissy and all,

            this has got to be the most uplifting thread I've come across in quite a while! Wow!

            As I was reading the posts, I was meaning to recommend Jenn Dize's ghostwriting
            program (which I bought and which is fantastic), and then I saw Jenn's post saying
            she'd sent a PM. So that's great!

            Sissy, definitely take her up on that. This program teaches you how to write for cash
            and get clients fast.

            Though with all the offers of work, you may already have more work than you can
            handle ;-)

            A note about your creditors:

            If there has ever been a good time to be facing financial challenges, this is it. Never
            has the credit industry been as willing to work with their customers as right now.

            Make sure to talk with them. Call them one after the other, explain your situation, and
            ask that they work with you by lowering the payments and if at all possible their rates.
            You will be very pleasantly surprised!

            They need YOU now -- and they're willing to help and work with you.

            Good luck!

            Elisabeth

            P.S.: There's also a fantastic Law of Attraction book with a really easy step-by-step
            how-to guide: Law of Attraction by Michael Losier. And it's only 10 bucks or so. It's
            terrific and will help you keep your focus on what you do want, which will help you
            achieve it too.

            P.S.: If you have books and other media stuff you no longer need, PM me and I'll send
            you a copy of my ebook on how to turn them into $$$ ;-)
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            • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
              About that plan above about setting up that copywriting/proofreading website with the
              50 articles...

              I would suggest a slight modification, which would allow you to get started TODAY!

              Set up a WordPress blog as your website, and then add those articles one or two a day,
              and follow some of the linking strategies wtih EZA and Squidoo above, and you'll find
              your site scoring very nicely on Google if you pick a good domain name and make sure
              you keyword optimize it!

              That way, you don't have to write all the articles first, and can build the site. Blogs are
              supposed to have content added all the time. And Google loves them. And with the
              ezinearticles links...

              Elisabeth
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              • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
                Along the lines of Elizabeth's (wordwizard) suggestion, check out Amy Bass's Niche Blogger program. She offers a free trial. I think it's only for 1 week though. Maybe it's for one month, not sure. If you want to go the blogging route, I'd suggest her stuff.

                Good luck!

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                • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
                  Another thought just struck me:

                  Have you seen the "30K in 30 Days" DVD? I have it and although the title (and the sales letter) borders on the absurd, it's an AWESOME, AWESOME DVD. I HIGHLY recommend it.

                  In that DVD, several top Internet Marketers got together and outlined a plan for making some big money fast. It definitely requires work, but only a computer, an Internet connection and a telephone. (The method involves teleseminars.)

                  You might not make 30K, but even if it was only 1K, it would be well worth it.

                  Search for "30K in 30 Days DVD". You might find it for free. If not, let me know if you're interested. I have it and can rip it and send it to you (I think).

                  I'm thinking of ways you can make some big money fast. (REALISTIC ways!) My Top 3 list for making big money fast would be:

                  1. Willie Crawford's "How to make $1000 in 24 hours, Even if You're a Complete Nobody." Check out my sig file for his Blog Talk Radio segment on how to do that.

                  2. The offline cash cow method. This has been beaten to death here on the WF. Do a search.

                  3. Look for the "30K in 30 Days" DVD. The title and sales letter for it borders on the absurd, bu it IS realistic -- very doable. You might not make 30K, but what if you only made $1K? 1K is still better than $0.

                  In the meantime, article writing mght be a quick way to bring in grocery/gas money.

                  Hope this helps!

                  Michelle
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                  • Profile picture of the author DeePower
                    Sissy:

                    It's been almost 24 hours since your original post. What action have you taken to start earning money online?
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                  • Profile picture of the author oregongal
                    HI Sissy,

                    You sure have gotten lots of great advice! And that really is a motivator to see so many people willing to help. I wanted to encourage you to just keep on plugging even when you are pressed for time - I have 10 kids, 8 of them still at home. So I KNOW exactly how hard it can be to get any uninterrupted time online. My husband tries to help him as much as he can, which is great!

                    Even though you are facing bankruptcy, don't get in over your head. Take on what you can manage or you will become overloaded and discouraged. We have also had great financial burdens which have placed great strain upon our family. I wish that I too could have helped out more, but I have seen some success with my internet efforts and look forward to more. The best of luck to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
        Thanks Loren for your reply. I know I just need to get out there.

        I have an idea for what I think would be a great (IMO) website for WAHM's, I have the domain and hosting account, just have been out of the loop for a while, so to speak, with my little ones needing their mum a lot more than usual recently.

        It's just really knocked my confidence and I've just felt overwhelmed with what I should do, but the response I've had here so far has really lifted my spirits!

        I'm in Australia though & it's now 1am, so I really need to head off and get some much needed sleep!!

        Cheers everyone for your support, this forum is so helpful.

        Sissy
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
        Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

        Thanks so much Sue & Sam for your advice.

        As a writer, I've been leaning towards article writing, but never thought of offering my services here. I was looking more at elance, but their fees are a little prohibitive for me at the moment.

        Sue, I'd love for you to PM me and talk to you more about your offer.

        Thanks to you both for being so generous with your time.

        Sissy
        Sissy

        elance fees are $20 to sign up and 8.9% off the top.

        Just add this to your bids...everyone else does.

        Expect to win only about 5% of bids when you start off...so if you need ultra fast cash, you might need $40 in "bidding tokens." Often, jobs are awarded weeks later on freelancing sites...so the rate at which you win jobs creeps up. Your profile is important here when you start, so make it killer.

        Free sites are good too. Also, have you thought about approaching webmasters/warriors/directly? They will often try you out for a few articles.

        You should be charging at least $15 per 500 word article. You WILL have to make multiple approaches to get a job...but with your skills, you will likely get ongoing work.

        Select a few niches you can write about quickly and just get out there and ask people for work.

        Start a thread here and offer your services too if money is really tight.

        Also, contact a few PLR providers and ask if you can write for them...no cash upfront. they're always after great writers...and EDITORS.

        You don't seem to lack the skills to write, just the knowledge of how to get work...and likely how to maximize your earn rate. If you want to PM me, I will give you some time on skype and expand on what I've said here.

        All the best

        Barry
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        • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
          Originally Posted by bigjock View Post

          Sissy

          elance fees are $20 to sign up and 8.9% off the top.

          Just add this to your bids...everyone else does.

          Expect to win only about 5% of bids when you start off...so if you need ultra fast cash, you might need $40 in "bidding tokens." Often, jobs are awarded weeks later on freelancing sites...so the rate at which you win jobs creeps up. Your profile is important here when you start, so make it killer.

          Free sites are good too. Also, have you thought about approaching webmasters/warriors/directly? They will often try you out for a few articles.

          You should be charging at least $15 per 500 word article. You WILL have to make multiple approaches to get a job...but with your skills, you will likely get ongoing work.

          Select a few niches you can write about quickly and just get out there and ask people for work.

          Start a thread here and offer your services too if money is really tight.

          Also, contact a few PLR providers and ask if you can write for them...no cash upfront. they're always after great writers...and EDITORS.

          You don't seem to lack the skills to write, just the knowledge of how to get work...and likely how to maximize your earn rate. If you want to PM me, I will give you some time on skype and expand on what I've said here.

          All the best

          Barry
          Cheers Barry,

          I just have to get the old sales hat on and start talking to people, but you've hit the nail on the head when you say I lack the skills to maximise my earn rate. I think my skills are worth far more than the average rates I've seen on elance and did get discouraged by this. It's good to know that there are people out there who appreciate quality, which I know I can provide.
          Not set up for Skype, but am interested in chatting further about this when I do.

          Cheers,

          Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Try freelancing with sites like Elance.com - it can be bumpy
    though because you'll be competing for jobs with non-native
    English writers who can work for $2 an hour and be very happy.
    Despite this lowball competition factor there is a real market
    for lucid communicators, you just need to get out there.

    You SHOULD have a blog. Wordpress is good - and write in it
    everyday. I recommend having your own domain name and
    hosting you control, but if you are flat-busted you can get
    a free WP blog on Wordpress.org - be warned that if you
    violate their terms of service they will shut you down.

    The reason to have the blog is to make people feel empathy
    for you. Every day write about your situation and things
    you are trying to do to change it. You'll fairly quickly (I'll bet)
    get a readership on mom's in the same situation. Then
    you promote affiliate "make money from home" offers to
    them, you can review them or something - because broke
    moms who want to make some money from home are looking
    for A) something they believe the can do B) a recommendation
    from someone they trust. Provide both and you will make
    sales. Weight loss products could be good sellers for you
    with this type of blog readership is well.

    If this strikes you as mercenary - well, welcome to the world
    of marketing! People are gonna buy the stuff anyway, but
    they would prefer to buy from somebody they like, trust, or
    feel they are helping out in a special way in buying from.

    It's called "affinity marketing"

    I wrote a ebook called "Recessionary Income" with a lot of other
    things that will work for people who have zero marketing skills.
    They all require work, but most methods are not "tricky" --
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  • Profile picture of the author cmbwealth
    The key becomes movement, if you have spent 12 months researching then you do have background knowledge, but like a lot of people in your situation - I am one as well - you get scared of failure.

    Don't fear it embrace it, you have great motivation around you - your kids - so do it for and because of them. Harry made some excellent points and I agree with him.

    With your talents, there is no reason you can't achieve success, if you start to take action.

    Don't let the fear stop you Sissy.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Thanks everyone for your support and kind, motivating replies.

      I've only just figured out how to post thanks, so sorry I didn't do this to you all before .

      Scattermouse, thanks for your reply. It's really easy to lose your confidence when you've been busy with other things, but you've really given me the boost I need to put myself out there and see what happens with other Warriors.

      I've looked at elance, but really didn't see it as viable to compete against non-native english writers who can charge so low for their work. Good luck to them, but it really doesn't work for me, as I know my work is worth far more than $2 an article - thanks for saying so .

      Would a WSO be the best way to proceed with freelance article writing?? Do I need a minimum number of posts to list one??
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    • Profile picture of the author virtuallywork
      You can post your writing skills to write articles for a lot more people than Sue also. That was very kind of you to offer her some help Sue. I think that rocks!
      But, there are many more people who could use your talents. You can post your talents to people who you do not compete for for only $2. You can take part in the trial for only $1 and when you sign up, go to your WA Job Board. Post your credentials and it would not hurt to mention how little time you have to make some money and people help each other there just like Sue's offer. But, you can do it for more than one person and get some money rolling in. I hope your decision changes your terrible ordeal. I know how it feels very much and I sympathize with you deeply. But, yeah--I was desperate and took action out of sheer desperation and that is all I have to testify that really changed anything for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author steve39
    If you're looking for some immediate income try this:

    1. Get a free Clickbank account.

    2. Choose some offers in popular niches like, get your ex back - acne - weight loss - 6-pack abs.

    3. Register a domain for each niche and redirect the domain (with your unique clickbank ID intact) directly to the Clickbank vendor's sales page.

    4. Get an Ezinearticles account

    5. Write short, factual, keyword rich, interesting articles and test resource boxes until you're at 20 % CTR or more. Link directly to your domain. EZA will allow top level redirects to vendor. Don't forget to also spend time creating attention grabbing headlines for each article.

    If you do this, you will see almost immediate sales. Keep in mind that this is not going to build your business. The only advantage you will have is that you can build a website with that domain after the financial crisis is over. The beauty is that you will already have many inbound links to it.

    This is a stop-gap measure I've used in the past to create some emergency cash.

    As soon as you can, start writing articles for your own sites and start building a list to take full advantage of each visitor you get.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jillian Slack
      Hi Sissy, and welcome to the WF!

      My advice is don't wait.

      Get busy on something.

      I tend to over-analyze things before I make a move. For example, with the offline business that I started about six years ago, I did my research but then I kept agonizing over whether I should get started or not. I could have been busy and making money, but I kept piddling around.

      Just about anything you consider doing will require a reasonable amount of time to learn and do some research, but then it's time to fly.

      Good luck!

      Jill
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    • Profile picture of the author virtuallywork
      Steve, I think your post was the most helpful post here! I like it ! Way to Go~
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by steve39 View Post

      If you're looking for some immediate income try this:

      1. Get a free Clickbank account.

      2. Choose some offers in popular niches like, get your ex back - acne - weight loss - 6-pack abs.

      3. Register a domain for each niche and redirect the domain (with your unique clickbank ID intact) directly to the Clickbank vendor's sales page.

      4. Get an Ezinearticles account

      5. Write short, factual, keyword rich, interesting articles and test resource boxes until you're at 20 % CTR or more. Link directly to your domain. EZA will allow top level redirects to vendor. Don't forget to also spend time creating attention grabbing headlines for each article.

      If you do this, you will see almost immediate sales. Keep in mind that this is not going to build your business. The only advantage you will have is that you can build a website with that domain after the financial crisis is over. The beauty is that you will already have many inbound links to it.

      This is a stop-gap measure I've used in the past to create some emergency cash.

      As soon as you can, start writing articles for your own sites and start building a list to take full advantage of each visitor you get.
      Thanks for your advice Steve. This is certainly one of the paths I've been thinking of taking. I know there are many variables which determine an individual's success, but what kind of time frame can I expect to see this technique start bringing in some money. I'm just a little confused, as some people say it's a no-brainer, almost instant cash machine. Others say it's a waste of time, especially with the big niches you've suggested? Surely there has to be enough room for everyone??
      I think I'm just going to have to just get in there and give it a go, try a few of these amazing suggestions and "suck it and see" as the saying goes!

      Thanks again for your time.

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Given your skills set I would consider setting up a proofreading and copywriting website or blog and start providing helpful tips, advice and information for those wanting to get into the copywriting or proofreading sector. You could includes links to leading training organisations and businesses that would employ such individuals. You could also provide advice about professional copywriting methods or the proofreading symbols used.

    Practically this is what I would do;

    1. Either buy a domain and create a basic site initially. Focus on excellent content not on stunning graphics. Or alternatively go to blogger.com and get a free blog at first. This has less flexibility but it does mean that you could get started with little technical experience.

    2. Create at least 50 high quality articles or at least 1,000 words in length linked to ythe copywriting and proofreading industires. Think up some titles for articles by having a brainstorming session or go to the Google Keyword checker tool here:https://adwords.google.co.uk/select/KeywordToolExternal

    I typed in the word copywriting and it returned hundreds of keywords linked to the copywriting niche. Look for keywords with a minimum of 1,000 visits a day on the Global Search Volume Heading.

    examples include;

    copywriting jobs - 6,600 searches
    seo copywriting - 9,900
    advertising copy - 6,600 etc....

    You can either start posting one article at a time or wait until you have all 50. The reason that 50 is key is because Google likes bigger sites and 50 is a nice number to start getting recognised in search engines.

    3. Site Promotion.

    You then need to start promoting your site through article submission, do follow blogging and do follow forums and start getting it noticed by other online users.

    4. Target a niche. The key is to target your niche and stick with it. Don't pad it out with a variety of articles, just make it really concentrated around copywriting and proofreading and you'll start to get recognised. Once you site is up and running then apply for an Adsense Account and starting making a little extra money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by Paid Surveys View Post

      Given your skills set I would consider setting up a proofreading and copywriting website or blog and start providing helpful tips, advice and information for those wanting to get into the copywriting or proofreading sector. You could includes links to leading training organisations and businesses that would employ such individuals. You could also provide advice about professional copywriting methods or the proofreading symbols used.

      Practically this is what I would do;

      1. Either buy a domain and create a basic site initially. Focus on excellent content not on stunning graphics. Or alternatively go to blogger.com and get a free blog at first. This has less flexibility but it does mean that you could get started with little technical experience.

      2. Create at least 50 high quality articles or at least 1,000 words in length linked to ythe copywriting and proofreading industires. Think up some titles for articles by having a brainstorming session or go to the Google Keyword checker tool here:

      I typed in the word copywriting and it returned hundreds of keywords linked to the copywriting niche. Look for keywords with a minimum of 1,000 visits a day on the Global Search Volume Heading.

      examples include;

      copywriting jobs - 6,600 searches
      seo copywriting - 9,900
      advertising copy - 6,600 etc....

      You can either start posting one article at a time or wait until you have all 50. The reason that 50 is key is because Google likes bigger sites and 50 is a nice number to start getting recognised in search engines.

      3. Site Promotion.

      You then need to start promoting your site through article submission, do follow blogging and do follow forums and start getting it noticed by other online users.

      4. Target a niche. The key is to target your niche and stick with it. Don't pad it out with a variety of articles, just make it really concentrated around copywriting and proofreading and you'll start to get recognised. Once you site is up and running then apply for an Adsense Account and starting making a little extra money.
      Wow! Thanks for your support and detailed reply. I appreciate the effort you've gone to to help me out. It's really warmed my heart that you've taken the time out of your day to do this for me, you're a gem!

      Copywriting is certainly something I'm going to look at and you've just provided the best head start for me.

      Many, many, many thanks my friend!

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author runfast
    Here's how I started in IM that generated some quick small cash.

    1.Went to Clickbank and pick a product.
    2.Submitted the product to Need-An-Article.com
    3.Created a domain name
    4.Took the Article and put it into a Wordpress
    5.Ran a campaign using Google Adwords.

    One way in 100.
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      Sissy have sent you a pm, if you don't get it, leave a message here for me.

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      • Profile picture of the author ragstworiches
        Hi Sissy,

        With the level of skills and experience you have I would advise you not to start off at the bottom. It is important that you do not sell your self short and realise what you are capable of. If you have a background in editing and have been an author you need to really use that to your advantage.

        I would focus on what you enjoy doing you are obviously very family orientated so if you could do something regarding Childrens books/authorship that would probably be wonderful for you.

        Think of something unique that hasn't been done in this area online, contact your previous associates, publishers, newspapers etc and see if they can help with promotion/marketing and I am sure you will do fine.

        Regards, Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Alright girl, first thing we need to talk about is your financial situation. Don't take it as a personal thing. Look, if companies such as Bear Stearns, Goldman Sachs, Chrysler, General Motors, Lehman Brothers, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Merrill Lynch, and AIG can't keep their heads above water--it is understandable how individuals, no matter how intelligent, motivated, or clever they may be--can be in troubled waters as well. It's tough out there!

    I want to give you two quotes and a possibly course of action. First, here is a quote I used in one of my books (with permission from Lifetime Books). It comes from OgMandino's The Greatest Salesman In The World. For a few bucks you can pick up the paperback in any bookstore--highly recommended. Look yourself in the mirror every morning and read the following quote to yourself until you have it down to memory.



    "I will persist until I succeed.
    I was not delivered unto this world in defeat, nor does failure course my veins. I am not a sheep waiting to be prodded by my shepherd. I am a lion and I refuse to talk, to walk, to sleep with the sheep. I will hear not those who weep and complain, for their disease is contagious. Let them join the sheep. The slaughterhouse of failure is not my destiny."

    Next, it seems to me you have tools and skills of great value. Here is a simple thought. It's not a revelation, but maybe you could go with something like this.

    Pick any niche and start Googling around for sales pages for various products in that niche. Read through the sales pages and take notes. I don't care what niche or page you look at, you can likely find mistakes--some major, some not so. But use your skills and experience and to find those dangling participles, comma faults, problems with subject-verb agreement and parallel constructions--even punctuation and word usage.

    Send an email to the product vendor explaining the errors and that you would be interested in editing future sales pages or ebooks to make them top notch. I'll bet you would get some replies. If a contact email is not on their sales page, opt in for their newsletter or mini-course. It is likely contact info will be at the bottom of the emails they send you. You could, I believe, build a business around this concept.

    And don't forget the Warrior Forum here. There are lot's of people asking for critiques of their sales pages or e-books. Help them out. Get some testimonials. Build, build, build.

    A lot of people here disagree with me about the value of using proper grammar, punctuation, etc in their materials. To me it is vital. Just a thought.

    Finally, here's my last quote. It's from Amy Lee (Evanescence) singing Bring Me To Life.

    "Now that I know what I'm without . . .
    You can't just leave.
    Breathe into me, make me real. Breathe. Breathe.
    Bring me to life."

    Listen to your ideas Sissy; they will talk to you; they will share their secrets with you; they will call your name and ask you to bring them to life.

    Breathe into your ideas and those of others and bring them to life. You can do this babe. Get serious. Be a lion--not a sheep. I will add this: To be ultra successful in any endeavor, you must step out of your comfort zone. You must do what your competitors are unwilling or unable to do. You must walk from the "safe" to the edge of chaos, to the wobbling fluxes that separate what has been done to what could be done. That's where the excitement, the potential, and yes--the money lies.

    The Danish existentialist philosopher Soren Kierkegaard once wrote, "I stuck my finger into existence--It smelled of nothing!" Unfortunately, for many people that is true. But honey, that's not good enough for you. When you stick your finger into existence and pull it out, it needs to smell of excitement, of yearning to accomplish, of the thrill of doing.

    Breathe into your ideas. Make them real. Bring them to life!
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    You have a lot of skills to offer. You need to stop reading ebooks and start implementing. Get some sites up ... even if they're crap to start out with. You'll improve. You need practical experience. In addition to launching your own blog or site, the very skills you say you have are valuable skills and can be offered on elance.com. Sign up for the categories that will allow you to sell children's books and your writing services. Bid on projects. Until you get feedback, bid lower than you would normally. You will need to get some feedback going, but once you do, you can bid higher. There are a lot of other freelance sites, but Elance is the biggest of them and has the most projects.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Hi Sissy,

      Welcome to the Warrior Forum! My heart aches to hear of your situation.

      However, you are very articulate and an excellent writer. With a background in publishing, I'm sure there must be something valuable you can offer.

      Check out the link in my signature. It's a Blog Talk Radio segment that Willie Crawford did on how to raise $1,000 in 24 hours, even if you're a complete nobody. Willie's not selling anything at all, just giving solid information. Maybe it will spark an idea.

      I have no affiliation with Willie at all (and like I said, he's not selling anything in the segment), but I put that link in my signature months ago because of people coming here, posting stories like yours.

      I know IM can seem so overwhelming and like you, I've overanalyzed everthing to DEATH! It sounds like writing articles for others might be a way to some quick cash, but it may or may not be as much as you need. I'd look at what you can do for some quick cash (i.e. writing articles) but also look to see what you can do/want to do to build a long-term business. Would that be affiliate marketing or producing/marketing your own products or services? Or something else?

      If you've been hanging around IM for 12 months, you might seriously consider the offline cash cow method. You should know enough by now to be able to do it.

      I know this post is a little general, but I hope it gives you some direction.

      Michelle
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Hi, Sissy...

        I've been where you are, almost. (No kids involved.)

        The first priority is making sure the roof stays overhead and the fridge stocked.

        With your qualifications and demonstrated skill, I'm going to suggest skipping elance and such, and go straight to Craig's list. There are always people looking for talented, professional writers, editors and such.

        The pay is much better because you aren't usually competing with low-priced third-world competitors. Many of the listings for writing and editing projects allow for telecommuting. These are your target.

        Even though you are in Australia, there's nothing preventing you from inquiring about projects in New York, Los Angeles or anywhere else in the USA, is there?

        Once your financial situation is stable, you can go back to investigating more entrepreneurial pursuits.

        If you decide to investigate this road, you might want to do some limited low-budget work just to put some marks in the win column and some jingle in your jeans...

        Best of luck to you...
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      • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
        Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

        Hi Sissy,

        Welcome to the Warrior Forum! My heart aches to hear of your situation.

        However, you are very articulate and an excellent writer. With a background in publishing, I'm sure there must be something valuable you can offer.

        Check out the link in my signature. It's a Blog Talk Radio segment that Willie Crawford did on how to raise $1,000 in 24 hours, even if you're a complete nobody. Willie's not selling anything at all, just giving solid information. Maybe it will spark an idea.

        I have no affiliation with Willie at all (and like I said, he's not selling anything in the segment), but I put that link in my signature months ago because of people coming here, posting stories like yours.

        I know IM can seem so overwhelming and like you, I've overanalyzed everthing to DEATH! It sounds like writing articles for others might be a way to some quick cash, but it may or may not be as much as you need. I'd look at what you can do for some quick cash (i.e. writing articles) but also look to see what you can do/want to do to build a long-term business. Would that be affiliate marketing or producing/marketing your own products or services? Or something else?

        If you've been hanging around IM for 12 months, you might seriously consider the offline cash cow method. You should know enough by now to be able to do it.

        I know this post is a little general, but I hope it gives you some direction.

        Michelle
        Thanks Michelle,

        Producing and marketing my own products is something I want to build up to, sooner rather than later. Have you gone down this path yourself?
        I've read about the offline cash cow as well, have you had any success with this??

        Cheers for your kind words.

        Sissy
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        • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
          Hi Sissy,

          Actually, I'm doing a variation of the cash cow method: I'm not doing it locally, but virtually. Instead of targeting my local business community, I'm targeting a couple of specific industries on a national basis and reaching them via IM.

          I have a couple of very specific reasons for this:

          1. I have a full-time job which doesn't allow me to do any marketing, meetings, etc. during working hours. Makes it kind of hard to explain why you can't meet clients @ 10 AM or 2 PM or whatever.

          I also happen to work for one of the largest, most well-known companies in the area and I'm a bit paranoid about how it would look if my employer got wind of it. My immediate supervisor knows I have a site and do freelance copywriting on the side but there's a big difference between freelancing (i.e. "dabbling") and launching a business and working at it on a large, full-time scale.

          2. I also have some physical problems which affect my appearance. Like it or not, perception IS reality, especially in marketing and so often people are focusing more on my appearance rather than me and what I'm saying. I HATE that and just want to avoid it altogether.

          So I decided to handle all of my business online and over the phone. That really is me in the photo to your left and I have that photo plastered all over my site. Between my photo, audio and phone calls, it should make it personal enough that prospects and customers feel like they know me a little bit and feel comfortable doing business with me.

          In my case, I'm a copywriter and was able to get copywriting clients online. I love copywriting but don't epecially like writing for all different types of clients. I do better with some industries than others. And I didn't especially like slaving away for hours. Trading hours for dollars really limits your income.

          So I decided to create my own IM product and market that to my chosen industries. Producing a product instead of providing a service really allows me to leverage my time and efforts. As has been mentioned here numerous times, businesses are in dire need of help with marketing in this economy. And online marketing is the way to go.

          Besides, writing my copy for my own site, product, sales letter, e-mails, etc. is waaaay more fun than writing copy for other people! ;-)

          So I made a decision to create/operate an entirely virtual business. If I tried to go out in person locally, I wouldn't be consistent with it and would get very frustrated with it.

          If you're a writer, you might check out copywiting. Writing a sales letter pays MUCH better than article writing. Based on what I've seen so far, you'd be good at it since your grammar and spelling are up to par. (And as a fellow writer, I'm also appalled by the state of grammar and spelling online. It's atrocious! Bev is right about the general state of grammar/spelling skills online.)

          Personally, I found offering copywriting services to be very limiting. I decided to use those skills and create my own product. Article writing, AdSense, affiliate marketing, etc. have all been mentioned several times. I've never been crazy about affiliate marketing either. Article writing, AdSense, etc. hav also struck me as a very low-paying, short-term business models. They might be good for some quick cash, but aren't good long-term businesses in my opinion.

          I don't know exactly where you are financially. I don't know how much you need and how soon you need it, but I imagine that if things are that dire for you, article writing might be like bailing water out of the Titanic. $7-$10 here are there just doesn't seem like it would be much help (if ANY help) and doesn't strike me as worth it AT ALL. (Although if you need grocery or gas money, it might be a good thing.)

          I imagine you probably need something in the range of $1,000 at least (probably much more), which is why I suggested the cash cow method. That's MUCH more likely to get you a decent amount of money fairly quickly. Or try Willie Crawford's method in the Blog Talk Radio segment in my signature.

          I hope that answers your questions. Please keep us updated on how it's going for you.

          Sincerely,
          Michelle



          Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

          Thanks Michelle,

          Producing and marketing my own products is something I want to build up to, sooner rather than later. Have you gone down this path yourself?
          I've read about the offline cash cow as well, have you had any success with this??

          Cheers for your kind words.

          Sissy
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          • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
            Originally Posted by Nightengale View Post

            Hi Sissy,

            Actually, I'm doing a variation of the cash cow method: I'm not doing it locally, but virtually. Instead of targeting my local business community, I'm targeting a couple of specific industries on a national basis and reaching them via IM.

            I have a couple of very specific reasons for this:

            1. I have a full-time job which doesn't allow me to do any marketing, meetings, etc. during working hours. Makes it kind of hard to explain why you can't meet clients @ 10 AM or 2 PM or whatever.

            I also happen to work for one of the largest, most well-known companies in the area and I'm a bit paranoid about how it would look if my employer got wind of it. My immediate supervisor knows I have a site and do freelance copywriting on the side but there's a big difference between freelancing (i.e. "dabbling") and launching a business and working at it on a large, full-time scale.

            2. I also have some physical problems which affect my appearance. Like it or not, perception IS reality, especially in marketing and so often people are focusing more on my appearance rather than me and what I'm saying. I HATE that and just want to avoid it altogether.

            So I decided to handle all of my business online and over the phone. That really is me in the photo to your left and I have that photo plastered all over my site. Between my photo, audio and phone calls, it should make it personal enough that prospects and customers feel like they know me a little bit and feel comfortable doing business with me.

            In my case, I'm a copywriter and was able to get copywriting clients online. I love copywriting but don't epecially like writing for all different types of clients. I do better with some industries than others. And I didn't especially like slaving away for hours. Trading hours for dollars really limits your income.

            So I decided to create my own IM product and market that to my chosen industries. Producing a product instead of providing a service really allows me to leverage my time and efforts. As has been mentioned here numerous times, businesses are in dire need of help with marketing in this economy. And online marketing is the way to go.

            Besides, writing my copy for my own site, product, sales letter, e-mails, etc. is waaaay more fun than writing copy for other people! ;-)

            So I made a decision to create/operate an entirely virtual business. If I tried to go out in person locally, I wouldn't be consistent with it and would get very frustrated with it.

            If you're a writer, you might check out copywiting. Writing a sales letter pays MUCH better than article writing. Based on what I've seen so far, you'd be good at it since your grammar and spelling are up to par. (And as a fellow writer, I'm also appalled by the state of grammar and spelling online. It's atrocious! Bev is right about the general state of grammar/spelling skills online.)

            Personally, I found offering copywriting services to be very limiting. I decided to use those skills and create my own product. Article writing, AdSense, affiliate marketing, etc. have all been mentioned several times. I've never been crazy about affiliate marketing either. Article writing, AdSense, etc. hav also struck me as a very low-paying, short-term business models. They might be good for some quick cash, but aren't good long-term businesses in my opinion.

            I don't know exactly where you are financially. I don't know how much you need and how soon you need it, but I imagine that if things are that dire for you, article writing might be like bailing water out of the Titanic. $7-$10 here are there just doesn't seem like it would be much help (if ANY help) and doesn't strike me as worth it AT ALL. (Although if you need grocery or gas money, it might be a good thing.)

            I imagine you probably need something in the range of $1,000 at least (probably much more), which is why I suggested the cash cow method. That's MUCH more likely to get you a decent amount of money fairly quickly. Or try Willie Crawford's method in the Blog Talk Radio segment in my signature.

            I hope that answers your questions. Please keep us updated on how it's going for you.

            Sincerely,
            Michelle
            Hi Michelle,

            The offline cash cow sounds great, especially the way you've approached it as a virtual business. This would suit me as my daytime hours are filled with my gorgeous girls . Copywriting sounds great and I know that it pays better than freelancing, just wondering if you could elaborate on what the standard rates are with copywriting if any? Is it based on a percentage of sales? If so, do you know what the common rate is in the industry?
            I'm working on my own products as well at the moment, and have thought myself that affiliate marketing etc can be a lot of effort for very little. But then again, there are those folks who are successful with those business models.
            Obviously I can't do everything at once when I'm starting out, but I do want to create multiple streams of passive income eventually. I think it will be easier for me to do this if I focus on what I'm interested in to begin with.
            Thanks for your help.
            Oh, I tried to listen to the Willie Crawford segment, but couldn't get the audio to work, have you encountered this problem before?

            Cheers,

            Sissy
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    • Profile picture of the author DonnaLeona
      Originally Posted by Jenn Dize View Post

      Sissy, I've sent you a pm
      I'm taking Jenn's writing course and it's great! You will get started on a writing career with her help and she offers 2 months coaching and helps you find clients.

      Warmly,
      Donna
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by IM Magazine View Post

      Hi Sissy,

      Please visit my site..we have a lot in common and I'm searching for help. I expect to have 1000s of subscribers to "The Internet Marketing Magazine" very quickly. Perhaps this is an opportunity for both of us. Let me know what you think of the planet's only multi-media magazine dedicated to teaching others how to become successful on the net.
      Hi Jerome,

      Have just had a quick look at your sales page, your magazine looks interesting, I'll have a more detailed look soon, but I'm sure I'll be able to help you in some way. I'll PM you after I take a better look.

      Cheers,

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author bobsedge
    Sissy,

    As someone who has spent the past twenty years working with tens of thousands of people specifically with resolving debt I have some advice.

    If you qualify for Bankruptcy go ahead and file. It is not the end of the world and always keep in mind that your family comes first. Not the banks. Not the collectors.

    It is very difficult to build a business or make sound decisions from the standpoint of desperation. In many many cases, people that file for bankruptcy have great success immediately after filing. And there is a good reason. They feel like a huge weight has been lifted and they are finally able to have clear thoughts.

    I am not an advocate of bankruptcy, but I am an advocate of doing right for you and your family. Take care of your needs first putting aside guilt, worry, and fear.

    If I can be of any assistance to you by providing no cost, unbiased advice, please PM me and I will gladly talk you through this.

    Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author DrupalShark
      Originally Posted by bobsedge View Post

      Sissy,

      As someone who has spent the past twenty years working with tens of thousands of people specifically with resolving debt I have some advice.

      If you qualify for Bankruptcy go ahead and file. It is not the end of the world and always keep in mind that your family comes first. Not the banks. Not the collectors.

      It is very difficult to build a business or make sound decisions from the standpoint of desperation. In many many cases, people that file for bankruptcy have great success immediately after filing. And there is a good reason. They feel like a huge weight has been lifted and they are finally able to have clear thoughts.

      I am not an advocate of bankruptcy, but I am an advocate of doing right for you and your family. Take care of your needs first putting aside guilt, worry, and fear.

      If I can be of any assistance to you by providing no cost, unbiased advice, please PM me and I will gladly talk you through this.

      Good luck.
      Speaking as someone who filed for bankruptcy in 2006 - I can confirm that it's not the worst thing that's ever happened to me and was damned near a blessing in disguise. I've been more successful since and the future looks brighter to me than it has in years - even though at the time of the bankruptcy I was in utter despair. But you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, get through it and start all over again stronger than before.
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      • Profile picture of the author DeePower
        1. Find a niche that you know something about and is hot

        2. Find an affiliate product

        3. Come up with 20 long tail keyword phrases. Use the link upstream to find hot niches and the article titles as your guide for the keyword phrase. Change a word or two so it's not an exact duplicate.

        4. Write an article for each of the 20 phrases.

        5. Take 10 of the articles and make 10 squidoo lenses include your affiliate link.

        6.Onlywire each lens

        7.Take those same articles and place them on associatedcontent.com you'll get paid, not much but you will get paid.

        8. set up a blogger blog. In the sidebar link directly to the affiliate product using your affiliate id of course.

        9.Add AdSense to the blog

        10. Use the 10 articles as blog posts. Each post having a link to the affiliate product.

        11. Onlywire and ping each post

        12. Submit the articles to ezinearticles one every day for 10 days.

        13. Take the other 10 articles and offer them as PLR package as a WSO. Don't price them too cheap. Sweeten your WSO by offering a 300 word ghostwritten article on the same subject as the plr to anyone who purchases.

        14. Take the PLR articles and put up 10 more squidoo lenses.

        15. Decide on a different niche and repeat.

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        • Profile picture of the author SarahMcHarry
          Hi Sissy,

          Reading all your posts I can see that you have a major advantage over many people in the IM marketplace in that you are literate. I am not being flippant or condescending here - it is a fact that most of the websites and blogs online are written by people who do not know how to spell (or use a spell-checker), punctuate or use correct grammar.

          In your situation you need to earn money in the short term. So, offer your services as a proof reader/copy editor. This will pay you better than $2 an article and will be easier for you to do. Get some work, earn some money and use the time to get experience in the online marketing environment. You could do worse than reading over the sales pages of some of the big gurus. When you see something with big mistakes (not difficult!) email them and offer your services. If their sales page is crappy you can be sure that their ebook and other literature contains multiple errors. You can correct this too. If one or two big gurus will employ you then you can earn good money by selling your time as a reliable freelancer.

          But the real road to riches is not selling your time by the hour but in establishing yourself as an Internet marketer. This requires some additional skills and there is no shortcut to this. You need to know some technicalities and some sales and marketing skills but there are plenty of courses out there that can help you learn. There's masses of stuff on this forum going for free.

          Listen, girl. I started out in this game when one of my major clients went bankrupt leaving me with large bad debts. I had people to pay and an overdraft to service. It's been five long years and I've only just become debt-free (yay!!!) but I'm smarter and stronger for the experience.

          You can do it. Just get started.

          Sarah
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          • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
            Originally Posted by SarahMcHarry View Post

            Hi Sissy,

            Reading all your posts I can see that you have a major advantage over many people in the IM marketplace in that you are literate. I am not being flippant or condescending here - it is a fact that most of the websites and blogs online are written by people who do not know how to spell (or use a spell-checker), punctuate or use correct grammar.

            In your situation you need to earn money in the short term. So, offer your services as a proof reader/copy editor. This will pay you better than $2 an article and will be easier for you to do. Get some work, earn some money and use the time to get experience in the online marketing environment. You could do worse than reading over the sales pages of some of the big gurus. When you see something with big mistakes (not difficult!) email them and offer your services. If their sales page is crappy you can be sure that their ebook and other literature contains multiple errors. You can correct this too. If one or two big gurus will employ you then you can earn good money by selling your time as a reliable freelancer.

            But the real road to riches is not selling your time by the hour but in establishing yourself as an Internet marketer. This requires some additional skills and there is no shortcut to this. You need to know some technicalities and some sales and marketing skills but there are plenty of courses out there that can help you learn. There's masses of stuff on this forum going for free.

            Listen, girl. I started out in this game when one of my major clients went bankrupt leaving me with large bad debts. I had people to pay and an overdraft to service. It's been five long years and I've only just become debt-free (yay!!!) but I'm smarter and stronger for the experience.

            You can do it. Just get started.

            Sarah
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            Thanks Sarah!

            Mike suggested this tactic earlier and I reckon it will suit me down to the ground.

            You're right though, establishing myself as an internet marketer is the way to go eventually.

            Glad to hear you made it through to being debt free - good on you!! That's a huge accomplishment, hope you celebrated accordingly!!

            Thanks for your kind words about my writing skills, you've really given me a boost!! :p

            Sissy
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by bobsedge View Post

      Sissy,

      As someone who has spent the past twenty years working with tens of thousands of people specifically with resolving debt I have some advice.

      If you qualify for Bankruptcy go ahead and file. It is not the end of the world and always keep in mind that your family comes first. Not the banks. Not the collectors.

      It is very difficult to build a business or make sound decisions from the standpoint of desperation. In many many cases, people that file for bankruptcy have great success immediately after filing. And there is a good reason. They feel like a huge weight has been lifted and they are finally able to have clear thoughts.

      I am not an advocate of bankruptcy, but I am an advocate of doing right for you and your family. Take care of your needs first putting aside guilt, worry, and fear.

      If I can be of any assistance to you by providing no cost, unbiased advice, please PM me and I will gladly talk you through this.

      Good luck.
      bobsedge, this has been such great advice. It's good to hear that folks can be better off after bankruptcy, this pressure isn't healthy for me or my family, but I really don't want to quit just yet. You've helped me to see that the effect this can have on my family is far greater than the banks or credit ratings.
      I will PM you to talk about this further as I really need to know more, thanks for your offer, it's very generous of you.

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author j hogan
    Hi sissy, being an Ausse makes no difference (me too) so don't be put off registering at elance because of the cheap writers, there are lots of people that are happy to pay good money for articles there.
    It's one of the quickest ways to make fast cash if you need money in a hurry. but you have the skills to take it much further than that, just use it to get started.

    I did some writing at elance once when I needed some quick cash,(charged $8-$10 an article) and then got offered more jobs pretty quickly from that work, I do other things now but it is a great way to make fast money to meet an urgent deadline.
    all the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author debra
    Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

    Hi guys,

    Like most people out there today, my financial situation is pretty dire. I am seriously VERY close to bankruptcy and am looking for direction, motivation, inspiration, whatever it takes to get me out of this very dark hole.
    I've been researching IM & MMO for at least 12 months now and have what I guess would be considered a lot of knowledge on these topics, but unfortunately, no practical experience.
    I have 3 wonderful daughters aged 4, 2 and my youngest turned 1 today, so needless to say, I am very busy with them and running a household. This is one of the main reasons my learning has been very disjointed as some days I have no chance of getting online. Now that my youngest is a little older, I hope to be able to dedicate around 15 hrs a week (at night) to MMO, but I am feeling completely lost.
    I need some sage advice from you wise Warriors, what would you recommend to start making some serious cash with the time I have available?
    I'm a highly skilled writer with a background in print publishing and editing (book, magazine & newspaper), I also have a very keen eye for design, both print and digital. I'm also a published children's book author.
    I have LOADS of ideas and am an entrepreneur at heart and see the internet as a vast opportunity for me, I just need to know what you believe is the best way to jump into making some money without having to spend much to get started - Adsense? Article Marketing? Web design and content writing? CPA?
    I know I need to take action and that I have quite a bit of fear holding me back, but with the limited time and funds I have available, I need to focus on what really WORKS.
    Any advice you can pass on would be greatly appreciated.
    This is my first post here and I'm feeling a little fragile, so please, be gentle!

    Cheers,
    Sissy76
    My Suggestion....

    Go with your Strenghs!

    There is a market are childrens books and you've already been down this road. So you are familiar with the crowd.

    How about turning your children books/stories into ipod format. Or...even an audio ebook as well. It may require that you hire a voice, if your not comfortable with doing it yourself.

    But, you would have quick access to sell your product(s) on itunes and through Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author SummitBloggers
    A lot of us have been in that spiral, including me. It seems like everything is closing in and decisions become very difficult to make. In my case, I was afraid that one more mistake would be the final straw and cause a lot of harm for my family.

    You have to start trying something. Once you get moving, it's amazing how fast things start to change. Begin by leveraging your current very impressive skill set. Offer to write articles for an existing web site (or blog) owner for a fee. Create a portfolio a well written articles on topics you know about and offer the package for sale here in the forum. Try technical writing. Company IT staffs (programmers) hate writing documentation and will only do it under force. I know because I used to work in corporate data processing departments. Most will gladly hire you to write the docs for them.

    Get determined and get moving. Look at it this way - what do you have to lose? Best of luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by SummitBloggers View Post

      A lot of us have been in that spiral, including me. It seems like everything is closing in and decisions become very difficult to make. In my case, I was afraid that one more mistake would be the final straw and cause a lot of harm for my family.

      You have to start trying something. Once you get moving, it's amazing how fast things start to change. Begin by leveraging your current very impressive skill set. Offer to write articles for an existing web site (or blog) owner for a fee. Create a portfolio a well written articles on topics you know about and offer the package for sale here in the forum. Try technical writing. Company IT staffs (programmers) hate writing documentation and will only do it under force. I know because I used to work in corporate data processing departments. Most will gladly hire you to write the docs for them.

      Get determined and get moving. Look at it this way - what do you have to lose? Best of luck!
      I really don't have that much more to lose, you're right!

      Never thought about technical writing, have always left it alone because I thought there'd be a certain level of required knowledge needed to do a good job - I'm not much of a techie!! If they hate writing that much though, it's worth approaching some companies, for sure.

      Cheers,
      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author bgmacaw
    Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

    I've been researching IM & MMO for at least 12 months now
    Well, I hate to say it but there's one mistake. Even on a limited schedule you could have gotten things started a year ago.

    Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

    I just need to know what you believe is the best way to jump into making some money without having to spend much to get started - Adsense? Article Marketing? Web design and content writing? CPA?
    Everyone has a different formula but here's mine laid out for you: Earn Online Cash with a Niche Adsense Blog. I'm a big proponent of the niche content blog/site SEO model because it's very low cost and the time investment is whatever speed you want to go. The downside is that results are slower.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by bgmacaw View Post

      Well, I hate to say it but there's one mistake. Even on a limited schedule you could have gotten things started a year ago.



      Everyone has a different formula but here's mine laid out for you: Earn Online Cash with a Niche Adsense Blog. I'm a big proponent of the niche content blog/site SEO model because it's very low cost and the time investment is whatever speed you want to go. The downside is that results are slower.
      I've been quite attracted to the niche adsense blog model, thanks for posting your link, this article has been so helpful.

      You're totally right about my first mistake, I wish I had taken action earlier, but I'm here now and am giving it a go. I'll let you know how it goes.

      Thanks for your help.

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    Sissy, I just sent you a PM.

    Jeremy
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  • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
    Sissy, there are many opportunties to get started as a writer online.

    The biggest problem you will face is that the majority of advice in this thread has come from non-writers and is totally false.

    They are saying what happens in their niche, and not all niches are equal.

    You could jump into writing articles for at least $15 an article, but to get those rates, you have to put certain things in place.

    I know people who have completed writing programs here, and they still haven't made a dime, because the information given has been inaccurate.

    Giving free articles isn't the way to start, because if you put a thread here offering them, then you will get freebie seekers who will have no interest in giving you a testimonial or buying from you as well.

    Also, some of the people who give testimonials say, "Great article" and they have no idea that the article is full of errors. That doesn't help anyone.

    Just be very careful who you accept advice from.

    If you want to get into writing online, then take advice from writers only.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

      Sissy, there are many opportunties to get started as a writer online.

      The biggest problem you will face is that the majority of advice in this thread has come from non-writers and is totally false.

      They are saying what happens in their niche, and not all niches are equal.

      You could jump into writing articles for at least $15 an article, but to get those rates, you have to put certain things in place.

      I know people who have completed writing programs here, and they still haven't made a dime, because the information given has been inaccurate.

      Giving free articles isn't the way to start, because if you put a thread here offering them, then you will get freebie seekers who will have no interest in giving you a testimonial or buying from you as well.

      Also, some of the people who give testimonials say, "Great article" and they have no idea that the article is full of errors. That doesn't help anyone.

      Just be very careful who you accept advice from.

      If you want to get into writing online, then take advice from writers only.
      Thanks Bev. You're right, it is important to make sure I keep my eyes open with any advice. Honestly though, I'm just blown away by the generosity that fellow Warriors have shown me.
      I'm interested in both writing online and internet marketing, as I'd like to sell my own products in the near future, but you're right, I do need to get organised.
      Thanks for your PM, I'll get back to you asap.

      Cheers,

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Bartlett
    Sissy, I have PM'd you.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author jacktackett
    Sissy,

    Others have been in your shoes as well, including me. I would suggest you look up the story of Amy Bass - she was drowning in debt as well and through hard work and determination she's become a success - and you can too!

    here's a link on the forum that talks about her:
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    and here's a link that provides some information on her story.
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    If there's anything I can do to help please let me know.

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    • Profile picture of the author jonb
      Sissy -- I've PM'd you with an idea....
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  • Profile picture of the author cscarpero
    You could post on Odesk as a writer. I don't believe they charge unless you win a bid. There are a lot of foreigners on there, but in the writing category, it's a lot easier for Americans to compete.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabe77
    You can still give the freelancing sites a try. You don't have to price yourself as low as those who can work for $2 per article.

    Anyway, I'm sure you have a portfolio. Put it up on your blog as well as samples of your work. Clients will recognize talent. And not all clients go for cheap article writers.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikemcmillan
    Bev, I am most certain you are a dear, dear person. However, I have to take exception with your post above. It seems a bit rude, condescending, and intolerant of the views of others who are only trying to help the OP out! You are ripping forum members who you judge to be "non-writers". We are all human and all subject to the foibles to which flesh is heir.

    We are all trying to help each other out. That is the purpose of this forum and the above posters are performing that function in fine fashion. Your own post contains more grammatical/writing errors than those of most other posters in this thread. I was tempted to point all of them out, but opted to take the high road on that one.
    Now, I'm not attacking you Bev, but when you make blanket statements about no one in this thread being a writer, and all of the advice being totally false--I do take exception to that. Good people have made valuable posts here. They are trying to help Sissy out of a serious situation. They have taken valuable time away from other projects to do this. You have tried to make every poster in this thread feel like sh*t and inferior to you; they are not!

    Sissy, all of the posters have made generous and valuable comments trying to help you (I am including Bev). There are many, many very sharp, clever, and capable people here who know a lot about making money online. They all do it in different ways. Read their advice. Pick a path and give it your best shot. Good luck!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Bev Clement
      Mike, talk about condescending, and your post is certainly that.

      I didn't assume anyone to be a non-writer. I said the majority of bad advice comes from non-writers that is a huge difference. Take a read through the thread again, some people have said they are not writers and then gave advice. Where did I judge them to be non-writers when they said that themselves?

      I expect affiliate marketers to give advice about affiliate marketing, and they have done exactly that, but when they assume the principles of affiliate marketing work in the writing niche they are giving false information.

      You don't like me trying to tell the OP that is she listens to non-writers about going down the $2 an article route then I'm sorry. But that is bad advice.

      I haven't ripped a single member here, just given general advice. You want to rip me apart feel free.

      Helping out by giving bad advice isn't really helping someone.

      Dee gave excellent advice, but did you notice, Dee is a writer, and she took the OP down the route of affiliate marketing.

      Feel free to point out all my errors, if that makes you feel happy, because that has nothing to do with it.

      You are attacking, because as soon as you try to justify yourself, you know it is because you are attacking.

      Where did I say ALL, do you not know the difference between ALL and majority from non-writers?

      Yes, I appreciate people are trying to help Sissy out, and if she choses to go down the route of a service provider then taking some of the advice will mean she will have to work long hard hours for very little reward.

      I'm really glad you know how every other poster here feels, did you take time out to ask them all how they feel? Or are you now the spokesperson for all the warriors?

      Never once said they are inferior that is how you decided to read the post, and decided to make comments on it.

      Don't bother to include me to try and feel better, you think my advice was crap, say so.

      Bev
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      • Profile picture of the author Susan Hope
        Originally Posted by Bev Clement View Post

        Take a read through the thread again, some people have said they are not writers and then gave advice. Where did I judge them to be non-writers when they said that themselves?

        Bev
        I have tons of respect for Bev and also a soft spot for her, I am sure she was one of the first people to welcome me to the WF over a year ago now.

        When I read the above bolded part of her second post in this thread I immediately worried that I might have done exactly what Bev was trying to point out, somehow given bad advise on a subject I am not an expert in, and I would hate to do that and usually I am very careful not to. But it is easy for anyone to slip up from time to time. However, I was not offended by Bev's post at all in fact glad she bought that up.

        So I just went and checked my original post and offer to Sissy and am relieved to see that yes I said I am not a writer but that I also then said there were many warriors here who could advise on that subject, phewww! LOL

        It's important to me to get things like that as right as I can for lots of reasons. I also want to help where I see that I can help because of all the help I have received here (by Bev and countless others) and when I was in the same position as Sissy, I was helped by someone offline and all they wanted in return from me was to "some day, pay it forward" and in my own small ways at the moment, that is what I am doing.

        So rambled again, a failing of mine LOL but to clarify, was not offended, glad Bev bought it up because Sissy needs good, positive and accurate direction in her life right now.

        Cheers all
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    • Profile picture of the author Ken Preuss
      Originally Posted by mikemcmillan View Post

      Bev, I am most certain you are a dear, dear person. However, I have to take exception with your post above. It seems a bit rude, condescending, and intolerant of the views of others who are only trying to help the OP out! You are ripping forum members who you judge to be "non-writers". We are all human and all subject to the foibles to which flesh is heir.

      You have tried to make every poster in this thread feel like sh*t and inferior to you; they are not!
      Mike,

      I've never met Bev in my life so this post is not to score points. While I respect that you perceived her post the way you did, I perceived it completely the opposite. She ripped no one and was not condescending to a single person on this thread.

      As someone who has been *exactly* where Sissy is with my back totally against a wall financially, I can tell you Bev supplied precisely what someone in that situation needs: accurate thinking.

      It's one thing to think about which path will actually bear fruit. It's entirely another to think accurately about it.

      Bev pointed out something incredibly valuable, which is that well-meaning advice from folks without Sissy's specific skill set is just that: well-meaning advice. She provided a valuable filter to help Sissy 1) discern which information on this thread is most valuable to someone with her specific skills, and 2) find the shortest path to actual financial results.

      I would encourage you to re-read her post within this context. There's much to gain from it.

      Best regards,
      Ken
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  • Profile picture of the author jgrink
    Sissy, I want to thank you for your candid post. I too have become a victim of the economic downturn and find myself in financial straits and looking for a new career at the tender age of 58. And like you I have been spending WAY TOO MUCH time learning and not enough time doing. Your predicament has prompted many valuable responses that compel me (and I suspect a bunch of other readers) to start falling on my face and making mistakes. It's going to happen and I (we) might as well get it over with. Best of luck to all of us; Sissy, I'll be following your posts and your progress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by jgrink View Post

      Sissy, I want to thank you for your candid post. I too have become a victim of the economic downturn and find myself in financial straits and looking for a new career at the tender age of 58. And like you I have been spending WAY TOO MUCH time learning and not enough time doing. Your predicament has prompted many valuable responses that compel me (and I suspect a bunch of other readers) to start falling on my face and making mistakes. It's going to happen and I (we) might as well get it over with. Best of luck to all of us; Sissy, I'll be following your posts and your progress.
      Glad my predicament is spurring others on to also take action. I honestly didn't think that I would have anywhere near the response I've had with my original post. I'd been a bit of a voyeur on this forum for a few weeks and it was really on a whim that I made my original post. It was late at night and I'd been thinking far too much, I don't really know what prompted me to post, but I'm so glad I did.

      Best of luck to you, I'm sure we're all going to be great successes!

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author barbdear
    What an incredibly great thread. There are a lot of days when I'm a little embarrassed to be called an Internet Marketer ... today isn't one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author theinfomaven
    Sissy,





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    ignore everything else.

    YOU NEED TO FOCUS AND DO THIS DAILY.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    Stablize yourself first. Being an entrepreneur is anything but stability. Desperation will drive you to poor business decisions.

    Despite what creditors will try to tell you to sway you emotionally, don't be afraid to file bankruptcy. It's simply a management tool for business, as well as it should be for individuals.

    But if you file, use it as the opportunity to get back on track the right way.... with safety nets, frugal all cash budgets... etc...
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  • Profile picture of the author Canee
    Wow great help here. I am also very close to bankruptcy, and posted here looking for help, got some tips and pointers, and then the thread was suddenly locked, no idea why.

    We've had a website up selling jewelry and designer handbags for 6 months now and no matter what we do, nobody is buying anything. It's really depressing to logon every day and see no sales again and again and again. /sigh

    Everyone keeps saying to persist, but very soon we will be offline, as we are out of money, with zero income and no prospects at this point in time.
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    • Profile picture of the author deanmoney
      A lot of good tips here. I am in a little bit of credit card debt at the moment. I hope everything works out for you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by Canee View Post

      Wow great help here. I am also very close to bankruptcy, and posted here looking for help, got some tips and pointers, and then the thread was suddenly locked, no idea why.

      We've had a website up selling jewelry and designer handbags for 6 months now and no matter what we do, nobody is buying anything. It's really depressing to logon every day and see no sales again and again and again. /sigh

      Everyone keeps saying to persist, but very soon we will be offline, as we are out of money, with zero income and no prospects at this point in time.
      Sorry to hear of your situation. What have you been doing to promote your site? There's a some great advice in this thread, I'm sure you'll be able to find something to work on here.


      Best of luck,

      Sissy
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Originally Posted by Sissy76 View Post

    Hi guys,

    Like most people out there today, my financial situation is pretty dire.
    Ummm, MOST people's financial situation is not pretty dire. It may help you feel better to think so, but it's not true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sissy76
      Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

      Ummm, MOST people's financial situation is not pretty dire. It may help you feel better to think so, but it's not true.
      I take it that your financial situation isn't dire, unlike the thousands of people in Detroit who've recently lost their jobs with the closure of General Motors? If that's the case, I'm happy for you.

      Using the word 'most' was a generalisation on my part, not to make myself feel better, but to let those reading this thread understand that I know I'm not the only person in the world under financial pressure at the moment, or that I'm looking for a handout or an easy way out of my situation.
      On a global scale though, I think it's safe to assume that there are a lot of people living in horrible financial situations - think of places like India, Africa, South East Asia.
      'Most' people in the world do not have the standards of living I am privileged to experience in a Western country like Australia. Even though I'm almost bankrupt financially, I have a hell of a lot to be grateful for and still consider myself to be incredibly lucky.
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    • Profile picture of the author bobsedge
      Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

      Ummm, MOST people's financial situation is not pretty dire. It may help you feel better to think so, but it's not true.
      Of course her statement was a generalization but the point is, she is not alone. But why was it necessary for you to point this out?

      It is natural for someone to feel in comfort in the fact that others are sharing her pain. And her statement is less an exaggeration than ever before.
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      • Profile picture of the author Barry Walls
        I think Sissys issue is that she needs to stop thinking and start doing.

        Shes a writer.

        People pay writers.

        IM hasn't worked for her to date and is responsible for her position. It will almost certainly NOT (I'd bet a huge amount of money on this) produce what she needs in the time frame she has.

        Shes running out of time...She needs money fast.

        What is the fastest way to make money with her proven skills set?

        She should write.

        Why isn't this screamingly obvious?

        Once the ship has been stabailsed, she can look at other avenues.

        Sissy, theres an uncomfortable truth you must look at to get you through this.

        If you aren't making $100 a day by tomorrow, then its not your skill set, its your temperament, work ethic or decision making processes, or a combination thereof which are the real problem here.

        All the best

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  • Profile picture of the author Cheryl Hines
    Hi Sissy,

    I want to thank you for being humble enough to share with us your plight as it has brought out so many great responses!!

    I might suggest that since you are a writer and you have stated your interest in Steve's plan, check out this thread started by Tim Gorman here in the forum: here

    It's like a mini crash course in article marketing at ezinearticles.com TONS of practical advice that most guys would charge for.

    I can relate to the sick toddler situation (I've had 9 even though my youngest is now 6). It is tough to be a full time mom and full time earner. But you can do it!

    Another idea: Tiffany Dow is another full time mom and full time marketer. Check out her site: Tiffany Dow’s Internet Marketing Blog because she is doing some affiliate marketing but is being totally transparent with how she is doing it.
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    There are a lot of people here looking for a writer. Create a sample pack and post it to show others what you can do. Many do something like this to 'increase interest' in their product or service.

    Many Warriors look for writers here and do not expect to pay 'bottom dollar' for quality work. Your sample pack will show your work quality and increase offers.

    Article writing or small report writing fits in the 'up and down' time schedule of a Mom and still brings in money. Also I've seen blog comment writing as a possible project, even shorter and faster to do.

    But get started with something.
    One way --
    1. Create a blog with samples of your writing and testimonials. (Build a list of those who ask for your samples). In my opinion blogs are easier to understand and to without having to learn website creation and design. Lots of great blog templates, called themes, to start with.
    2. Post at Warriors for work. Lots of info exist on WSO's. Two places to list your writing service.)
    3. (optional) Look here and at ClickBank, etc. for products you can recommend in a niche you concentrate in for a few extra bucks coming in passively.

    I've pm'd an idea to you.

    Good luck
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