I dont quite understand the whole "i wish i built my list first" regret

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I understand the importance of building a list. Often i hear other I.M'rs say that they wish they would have started building a list sooner but what i dont understand is at what stage did they wish they have started.

In your experience, was it at the stage after you have developed some niche sites or was it at the get go before even understanding authority or niche sites.

Many times all i see is landing pages with a catchy headline and often a redirect to a product, a majority of the time these landing pages say they will give an incentive but don't. Is this the initial idea of building a list, literally just advertising to a niche and collecting emails and then just promoting products or is it best expected from you that you have a niche site or a blog and an opt in form integrated so that you can keep an audience.



What is it first that you should do
- build a landing page, get in auto responder, market the landing page to a niche and just collect emails
or
- throw up a quick niche site or blog with some article and integrate an opt in form to capture the audience.

Which is best? what are these 6 figure earners referring too when they say they wish they would have started building a list sooner?




PS About me, im not new to this forum i have been browsing it for about a year now and studying international marketing, affiliate marketing, web development and internet marketing for 3 years. Im ready to start making money with this knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I think most of them would be saying that they wish they had an option for people to subscribe to their email list on their website / blog from the beginning.

    Many people run websites for months or years and get tons of visitors and do quite well but don't build an email list and realize later their business would have grown much faster and been much more profitable had they built a list.

    A list means more return visitors and return visitors are more likely to buy from you because of the relationship you've built.
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    • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
      Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

      I think most of them would be saying that they wish they had an option for people to subscribe to their email list on their website / blog from the beginning.

      Many people run websites for months or years and get tons of visitors and do quite well but don't build an email list and realize later their business would have grown much faster and been much more profitable had they built a list.

      A list means more return visitors and return visitors are more likely to buy from you because of the relationship you've built.
      Thank i cant tell you how much that clears up all the confusion. What are your thoughts on just marketing a landing page with no real authority backing it up i.e no resource to send a user to.
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      • Profile picture of the author sal64
        Originally Posted by OfficerIM View Post

        Thank i cant tell you how much that clears up all the confusion. What are your thoughts on just marketing a landing page with no real authority backing it up i.e no resource to send a user to.
        It depends on what your goal is. Are you a churn and burn or are you looking to develop a long term income?

        You can start with building your list with a valuable free item... BUT...

        You can try multiple products and segment that list, so you can then test their responsiveness further.

        Most important is that you should consider developing a relationship with your list. Let them get to know and trust you... the money takes care of itself.

        It's ok to have a product as well, but understand that a visitor may not purchase right away for many reasons... not the least being that they simply don't want your product.

        That's where the relationship building pays off... via affiliate products or eventually they trust you enough to buy your product.

        Hope this helps

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        • Profile picture of the author Networking_now
          Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

          It depends on what your goal is. Are you a churn and burn or are you looking to develop a long term income?

          You can start with building your list with a valuable free item... BUT...

          You can try multiple products and segment that list, so you can then test their responsiveness further.

          Most important is that you should consider developing a relationship with your list. Let them get to know and trust you... the money takes care of itself.

          It's ok to have a product as well, but understand that a visitor may not purchase right away for many reasons... not the least being that they simply don't want your product.

          That's where the relationship building pays off... via affiliate products or eventually they trust you enough to buy your product.

          Hope this helps

          Sal
          Sal, is your method to

          1- build a list, on a topic/niche (say 3000)

          then segment this into smaller lists, of their interest (by sending them to other additional squeeze pages) of other interests, so you know who is interested in what interest.

          so 3000, get promoted 4 squeeze pages (in sub niches)

          Squeeze page 1 , generates 150 subscribers (from the original 3000)
          Squeeze page 2 , generates 800 subscribers (from the original 3000)
          Squeeze page 3 , generates 480 subscribers (from the original 3000)

          so you are segmenting the list of 3000, into further segments of interest?
          is that what you are suggesting and do ?
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    • Profile picture of the author gluckspilz
      Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

      I think most of them would be saying that they wish they had an option for people to subscribe to their email list on their website / blog from the beginning.

      Many people run websites for months or years and get tons of visitors and do quite well but don't build an email list and realize later their business would have grown much faster and been much more profitable had they built a list.

      A list means more return visitors and return visitors are more likely to buy from you because of the relationship you've built.
      This post pretty much summarises the thread
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    • Profile picture of the author IanM723
      Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

      A list means more return visitors and return visitors are more likely to buy from you because of the relationship you've built.
      I think the above is probably one of the biggest benefits of having your own list. You are marketing to people that you have already built a solid relationship with. I forget the exact number, but I think that you are something like 9 times more likely to make a sale to an existing customer (or list subscriber) than you are to a new customer. I think this is the true value of the list - it is a pool of instantly available traffic that are much more likely to buy from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author Malcolm Thomas
      Originally Posted by Stuart Walker View Post

      I think most of them would be saying that they wish they had an option for people to subscribe to their email list on their website / blog from the beginning.

      Many people run websites for months or years and get tons of visitors and do quite well but don't build an email list and realize later their business would have grown much faster and been much more profitable had they built a list.

      A list means more return visitors and return visitors are more likely to buy from you because of the relationship you've built.
      THIS. A list is where the money is at.
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  • Profile picture of the author dndoseller
    As soon as you are getting ANY traffic you need to put up a sign up form to build a list.

    I just use the free version of Mail Chimp and it works great.

    I built my site as kind of a hybrid landing page / blog with tons of free music content.

    You have to offer people something free that has real value.

    I get lots of people signing up because I offer to send them my latest free royalty free songs.
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    • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
      Originally Posted by dndoseller View Post

      As soon as you are getting ANY traffic you need to put up a sign up form to build a list.

      I just use the free version of Mail Chimp and it works great.

      I built my site as kind of a hybrid landing page / blog with tons of free music content.

      You have to offer people something free that has real value.

      I get lots of people signing up because I offer to send them my latest free royalty free songs.
      The problem with offering something for 'free' is that you can end up attracting a lot of freebie seekers who don't go on to become buyers. The freebie mindset can really be a disadvantage to list building. Many IM'ers recommend that you give valuable information before asking for an email address. Like a reverse funnel. Or, give a sneak peak in to a high value product you are selling and promise more details after signup.
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      • Profile picture of the author yakim1
        Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post

        The problem with offering something for 'free' is that you can end up attracting a lot of freebie seekers who don't go on to become buyers. The freebie mindset can really be a disadvantage to list building. Many IM'ers recommend that you give valuable information before asking for an email address. Like a reverse funnel. Or, give a sneak peak in to a high value product you are selling and promise more details after signup.
        How do you know who is going to be a freebie seeker or a buyer? I've made a lot of money giving things away. If you are not starting your sales funnel out with a low cost or better free product, you will be leaving a lot of income on the table for others to snatch up.

        The problems happen when all you have to offer is free and low cost products. If you into product creation, start by creating your high ticket product and then brake that down into other smaller products based on getting the customer to the High ticket purchase.

        Example...

        If your high ticket product is coaching, You could give away free course that has an upgrade that gives access to a one on one half hour conseltation and the ability to listen to one group coaching a week.

        This allows the person to get a little example of what your coaching style is and the content you cover in more advanced coaching.

        So, you break your coaching down into different levels of coaching and each level you charge a little more for.

        You would probably never get these people to even take a look at what you offer if they did not get on your list with the free course.

        I don't coach any more, but my partner makes a good living coaching.

        I'm not saying your high ticket product should be coachng because that business model is not for me. I have opted for a more passive business model. One of my best products starts out with a free membership. This free membership is bringing in people who can promote my high ticket product.

        In other words FREE sells.

        I hope this has been helpful,
        Steve Yakim
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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    I think people don't build a list because they don't have anything to offer or think that they don't. When you start you probably don't have any product or report that you have written and so don't have anything offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author 4DayWeekend
      What's not to understand?

      Many people who first try to make money Online will...
      • Offer services such as article writing...
      • Create videos to promote affiliate offers...
      • Do PPC advertising to affiliate offers...
      • Write blogs to review or promote products...
      None of which involve building a list in any capacity...

      When these guys finally built a list, they realised that they could've made money far faster by building a list from Day 1, rather than trading their time for money writing articles or reviews...

      Its your decision if you choose to throw up a squeeze page with a giveaway or a blog with an opt-in, there's no right or wrong answer.

      If you do choose to blog, you should definitely be using your blog to build your list too. But you'd be surprised how many people forget that part.
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      • Profile picture of the author stephenwebb
        Originally Posted by 4DayWeekend View Post

        What's not to understand?

        Many people who first try to make money Online will...
        • Offer services such as article writing...
        • Create videos to promote affiliate offers...
        • Do PPC advertising to affiliate offers...
        • Write blogs to review or promote products...
        None of which involve building a list in any capacity...

        When these guys finally built a list, they realised that they could've made money far faster by building a list from Day 1, rather than trading their time for money writing articles or reviews...

        Its your decision if you choose to throw up a squeeze page with a giveaway or a blog with an opt-in, there's no right or wrong answer.

        If you do choose to blog, you should definitely be using your blog to build your list too. But you'd be surprised how many people forget that part.
        That's really interesting. I never thought of building a list. I'll try that now.
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  • Profile picture of the author muffty
    I think the first step is to create quality content on your site - whichever niche you are in, this doesn't take long to do and as soon as you have some great content, you then needto get your Free Offer created and your Autoresponder set up!

    This then enables you to mail your list when you create a new post, (getting traffic to your site) of course offering quality content, and also to recommend products which you feel offer good value and deliver 'what it says on the tin' - also make sure the products you're recommending fit your list's interests.

    If you don't have some quality content on your site before you begin building a list then I doubt visitors will be very impressed - as for squeeze pages, this is good for paid advertising - but again deliver what you promise and offer quality at all times.

    As you state the, "wish I'd started building my list sooner" marketers, didn't see the benefit of this when they started - I very much doubt there are many marketers starting out now who will overlook this very important step!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Hi,

    Don't over think this for another 12 months is my first opinion.

    Secondly it's not just about building a list and that's all there is to it.

    You have to take time and build a solid front end offer and back end
    email sequence that converts browsers into buyers and buyers into
    long time raving fans of yours.

    So for the people who do say that they wish they'd built a list years ago
    or whatever time length that may be for them are the ones who have built
    solid funnels and made them work.

    Have a solid days work pay for you my friend
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  • Profile picture of the author yakim1
    You don't start building a list just for the sake of having a list or because someone says you need to build a list.

    You have to plan your list building strategies so that it will automate your business. People forget that you should consider your autoresponder an employee that works 24/7 to help subscribers and promote products that will help your subscriber fix a problem they are having.

    Much of your business can be automated this way so all you need to do is get people onto your list and let your followup sequences do most of your work for you.

    I consider list building the foundation of my business. People can copy my products and everything I do but the one thing they don't have access to is my list. If something were to happen to my websites, I could rebuild much faster because I still have my list.

    So plan your follow up messages that the subscribers will see to build that know you, like you and trust you feeling with you but also add in product recommendations that will also help them solve problems.

    One thing I like to do is send the subscriber to other squeeze pages when I get toward the end of one follow up series to automatically get them on another list and another automated series of follow up messages.

    Again the idea is to automate my business as much as I can and keep contact with my subscribers.

    I only send out broadcast messages when I have something to say that is not in a follow up series. So I don't have a need to send that many broadcast messages.

    I change up the frequency of my follow up messages so they don't receive to many at one time.

    I hope this has been helpful,
    Steve Yakim
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
    If you want to make real money, forget about creating lists...leave that to the newbies. Try to create a valuable product, which will sell, instead of spamming newbies with "How to make money online" scam offers.
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    • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
      There is no real right or wrong answer (building a website vs. concentrating on building your list first). The important thing is to get started on something.

      Having said that, all of the answers in this thread suggesting that the best way to get started is to integrate an auto-responder form on to your site and simply hope people opt in are suggesting you start with blogging.

      There are plenty of successful bloggers, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's the fastest, -OR- surest path to success online.

      If you start with blogging, be prepared in advance to spend a year or more building up an audience, then another year or 2 building up your list. After year 2 or 3 you might be able to start making some money with that list, just make sure you plan in advance what it is you want to offer.

      No worries though, you will have plenty of time to decide going that route.

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    • Profile picture of the author yakim1
      Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

      If you want to make real money, forget about creating lists...leave that to the newbies. Try to create a valuable product, which will sell, instead of spamming newbies with "How to make money online" scam offers.
      What you have stated to do is exactly opposite of what a person should do. You see, people worry to much about the product when products are a dime a dozen.

      There are all kinds of products available to sell.

      But if creating your own product, list building should be a very big part of the product creation.

      this is essential if you plan on having other marketers promote your product with an affiliate link. Early on in my list building I quickly discovered that the best place to find new subscribers is to contact them where they hang out.

      They hung out on other people's lists. Some of the best ways to get people who are on other people's lists was to have an affiliate program, do joint ventures and partnerships.

      Using Joint Ventures, and affiliates is the fastest way to take your business to the next level. You need to segment your lists. one of my most valuable lists is my Joint Venture Partner list, which has over 8,000 members.

      These are all people who I have done a joint venture with of some kind in the past. So I have a list of people who may want to work again on a project with me. So all I have to do is send out an email or two to this list and I can have a whole army of people that want to get involved in my next project.

      I hope this has been helpful,
      Steve Yakim
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      • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
        I do not want to be rude, but if you don't build your own list of subscribers, you are doomed to fail in this business or suffer a lot of frustration and regret over the medium term.
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        • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
          Originally Posted by RobertoM View Post

          I do not want to be rude, but if you don't build your own list of subscribers, you are doomed to fail in this business or suffer a lot of frustration and regret over the medium term.
          Fail in what kind of business? If you sell "How to make money online" schemes, then yes, you need a list of newbies buying those. Other than that...

          The IM niche is specific, its mostly people who have no idea how to make money online, sell tips on how to make money online to other people who struggle to make money online. Its a neverending circle and none of them will ever make money online. lol
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          • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
            Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

            Fail in what kind of business? If you sell "How to make money online" schemes, then yes, you need a list of newbies buying those. Other than that...

            The IM niche is specific, its mostly people who have no idea how to make money online, sell tips on how to make money online to other people who struggle to make money online. Its a neverending circle and none of them will ever make money online. lol
            I doubt there's a single successful business anywhere online or offline that doesn't have a customer / client list.

            Whether that be the end customer, distributors / suppliers, retailers or whoever that particular businesses 'customers' are.

            You need to be able to contact the people you do business with and market to.
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          • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
            Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

            Fail in what kind of business? If you sell "How to make money online" schemes, then yes, you need a list of newbies buying those. Other than that...

            The IM niche is specific, its mostly people who have no idea how to make money online, sell tips on how to make money online to other people who struggle to make money online. Its a neverending circle and none of them will ever make money online. lol
            Fail in what kind of business? In any kind of online business whichever your niche be.
            If you want to succeed, you need to have your OWN growing list of clients and work hard with them to gain their trust.
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        • Profile picture of the author Adam Humphreys
          Originally Posted by RobertoM View Post

          I do not want to be rude, but if you don't build your own list of subscribers, you are doomed to fail in this business or suffer a lot of frustration and regret over the medium term.
          Yes my success came once I started list building..
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      • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
        Originally Posted by yakim1 View Post

        What you have stated to do is exactly opposite of what a person should do. You see, people worry to much about the product when products are a dime a dozen.
        I didn't say a product, I said a valuable product. Something new, unique, fresh...something that isn't out there yet. Thats how people get rich online. Not by selling the same other 10000 are selling, too.
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        • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
          Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

          Something new, unique, fresh...something that isn't out there yet. Thats how people get rich online.
          That is horrible advice. But a common misconception.

          People often think they have to come up with something completely new and revolutionary in order to succeed. Nothing could be further from the truth.

          There are lots of ways to add value (real or perceived) to an already existing product and market it effectively.

          Telling someone new to the online world that they need to be 'revolutionary' in order to succeed is just plain wrong.

          Not only that, but most of the largest online fortunes and most successful online businesses were not built on anything revolutionary.

          It's actually exactly the opposite.
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        • Profile picture of the author yakim1
          Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

          I didn't say a product, I said a valuable product. Something new, unique, fresh...something that isn't out there yet. Thats how people get rich online. Not by selling the same other 10000 are selling, too.
          The part I was objecting to was were you said not to build a list. The point I was trying to make is you don't have to worry about what product to promote as long as your building a list while you do it.

          The sales funnel starts with a free product and then the product recommendation start to be more valuable and cost more as the person goes through your funnel. It's really hard to create a sales funnel if you don't build your list.

          Best regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
    The list is a huge asset! Build a good list in the right niches, and you basically have a money machine.
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  • Profile picture of the author onlineleben
    Originally Posted by OfficerIM View Post

    What is it first that you should do
    - build a landing page, get in auto responder, market the landing page to a niche and just collect emails
    or
    - throw up a quick niche site or blog with some article and integrate an opt in form to capture the audience.

    Which is best? what are these 6 figure earners referring too when they say they wish they would have started building a list sooner?
    Check out this series of post:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...000-month.html

    Although it is about affiliate income, it turns out that the main Driver to good earnings is the list.
    It is quit Long but in the end you recognize what value a well cared for list has.
    I copied all the Posts from LindyUk in a word doc and started rebuilding my webstrategy.
    Takes time and effort, but probably worth it.
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  • Because after realizing how much traffic has come to a particular blog throughout time without capturing their info you realize how much profit was missed from those who couldve been put into a converting funnel bringing in multiple sales down the line from that same one subscriber!

    (So just multiply that times 100 subs or even a 1000)


    The so called secret to this funnel is in those email followups. Without this once a person leaves your blog their gone possibly forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    I think most folks are scared of list building. They don't know what they will send to their subscribers or what they will promote or even what to give them for signing up.

    I know that in my case it was really just a lack of focus. After I got tired of seeing other people succeed I made a commitment to list building. I decided to dedicate 6 months to list building only to see if it actually worked...

    Luckily I made that commitment to myself and stuck it out because at the end of that 6 months I quit my job and have been full time online ever since.

    So if you are in the "scared" mode when it comes to list building. Now it the time to "face your fears" and start building a list. I don't know where I would be today with out it!

    Good luck.

    Cheers,
    Coby
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
    Online selling is based on a trust factor. With big names like Amazon and eBay, you already have that trust factor established. But, with an unknown company, it would take time to establish trust with a potential buyer. People are not just going to buy from a random website, no matter how good the deals. They want to shop around and see which site offers the best values/information. That's true whether you're selling a tangible or digital product or just offering advice on a niche (and linking to affiliate products). By getting people to sign up to your email list, you have the chance to talk to them even after they leave your site and give them reasons to return. Building the trust factor is easy when you have that person on an email list.
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  • Profile picture of the author gzeus
    If you rely on razor margin traffic or se traffic, then having an insurance policy against the possible drying up of that traffic is intelligent - hence "friends" and emails lists.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    I would do both. Test both at the same time.

    Start a blog and collect emails. Start squeeze pages and collect emails. Do both.

    List building is nothing more than an additional potential revenue source - it doesn't have to be the only portion of an internet marketing business. Just like building niche sites is one aspect, flipping websites, etc, etc.

    I would have to agree with Coby in that list building wasn't a focus of mine when I got started in internet marketing. Now that it is a focus, and simply an additional source of revenue, I enjoy it and do well with it. I only started after building sites and earning money online in other ways.

    I could have built lists sooner, and I regret not doing it sooner only because I would have earned the additional income sooner, but that's the only reason and most will feel the same way.

    But to reiterate my answer to your question, do both blog creation and squeeze page creation at the same time if you have the ability.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    I agree with Brendon try to do both at the same time and then start sorting out which is the best way for you.Hope this helps
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  • Profile picture of the author clever7
    An email list is a list of people who may care about buying what you are offering, and also people who may care about clicking on your links and visiting your pages whenever you send them an email message. Having a list is very good for many reasons.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbsmitty
    When I started out I had heard a story from a friend who was a business consultant about a woman who had created a recipe website that she monetized with Adsense. After about three years she had reached the point where she was working about two hours a day and making upwards of 100k per year.

    I tried to copy that same model. I had no idea what I was doing and it didn't work all that well. But back in those days I had never heard of list building. Do I wish now that I had known about it then? Maybe. But, I have to say, as much as people may realize that they should have learned sooner about list building and the idea that "the money is in the list" I don't think it's the best thing for people to jump right off into list building necessarily.

    Why? Because in this business your reputation is your most important asset. And if you start building a list without first learning how to relate to your list it could hurt your reputation.

    Fortunately for many it doesn't get hurt too badly before they start learning some of these things by trial and error; after all, there are lots of potential customers out there.

    But I can tell you that there are lists I've been on that I'll never be on again and if I ever am I will quickly unsubscribe. Marketers who left a bad taste in my mouth for one reason or another and are now on my "no fly" list.

    Just a thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author CpvTrafficPro
    Having a list is always important ... look at every company they always try to capture information about their customer for future contact.

    In your case asking which you should do first and well ... I would suggest finding the path that you want to use and find out how you can make your first $1 after that its all scaling. If you have a list or not, it won't stop you from making money. Everyone has their own way.
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