Building A List Around Cannabis Or Video Games?

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Hello guys!

I don't know, I'm just going through a spiral right now. Here is the thing, When I ask for business Ideas, People always (rightfully) ask "What do you like to do?", and the thing is, The things that I like to do, I don't think I could profit off of. In my spare time, I like to play video games and study Cannabis. I freakin' love Cannabis; Even though I've never consumed it (yet) I love the science behind it, It's benefits, etc. I could probably tell you what type of Cannabis it is just by looking at the leaves, the length of the leaves so on and so forth.

I would love to build my list around Cannabis (since it is a natural herb) but I just don't see how I could profit off of it seeing that it's still illegal in most states (mainly in the south where I live). I don't think there are affiliate products i could sell about Cannabis.

I mean, I'm sure I could profit off of video games. I'm also pretty good a video editing with Sony Vegas, but if there is anyway I could build a list around around Cannabis That would be awesome

Any ideas? Thank you in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author malcsimm
    Interesting thought LOL. I hear is just been made legal to buy cannabis in Colorado. I'm not sure it's a great idea to be honest.

    Although, on second thoughts, I think it is because it drives the black market away.

    However, you are asking for trouble focusing on building a list of dope smokers. I hope you're not thinking of selling Internet marketing products to dope smokers – it's hard enough for straight Internet marketers to make money, let alone stoned Internet marketers.

    To be honest, I think it might be wise to avoid the marijuana niche. But that's just my idea. If you go for it anyway I wish you all the best!

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    • Profile picture of the author benjamenjuan
      you can still buy pipes, papers, bongs, 420 clothes etc online. Market those products as an affiliate. make a blog about whats going on in the industry and network with activists all over the web. most people into 420 are also into ecigs, vapor and video games.
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      • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
        Originally Posted by benjamenjuan View Post

        you can still buy pipes, papers, bongs, 420 clothes etc online. Market those products as an affiliate. make a blog about whats going on in the industry and network with activists all over the web. most people into 420 are also into ecigs, vapor and video games.
        This is very true, Thank you for the Idea. PharmaPunk is just a email list now, I think It's time to turn it into a blog
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    • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
      Originally Posted by malcsimm View Post

      Interesting thought LOL. I hear is just been made legal to buy cannabis in Colorado. I'm not sure it's a great idea to be honest.

      Although, on second thoughts, I think it is because it drives the black market away.

      However, you are asking for trouble focusing on building a list of dope smokers. I hope you're not thinking of selling Internet marketing products to dope smokers - it's hard enough for straight Internet marketers to make money, let alone stoned Internet marketers.

      To be honest, I think it might be wise to avoid the marijuana niche. But that's just my idea. If you go for it anyway. I wish you all the best!

      Malc
      Thank you for the advice . I think i'm going to try it and see what happens. I'll keep everyone updated on my Cannabis blogging journey. If it works out, I might could show everyone what I did and someone else might be able to profit from it.
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      • Profile picture of the author bwizard
        im making money with it and with a basic site and getting lots hits but i live in colorado check it out Colorado Weed Prices
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        • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
          Originally Posted by bwizard View Post

          im making money with it and with a basic site and getting lots hits but i live in colorado check it out Colorado Weed Prices
          Very interesting! I love how it's very basic and straight forward. I shall study your site. Subscribed by the way. Big congrats to you guys also for legalizing it!
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          • Profile picture of the author bwizard
            Thanks i think its great for the economy here my web hosting business has picked up hosting sites for a bunch of these guys and there are alot of affiliate programs and what not for parifinilya and things of the like
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
    Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.

    Here's Why:

    1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested

    2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.

    3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?

    4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?

    5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law - Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?

    6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
      Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

      Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.

      Here's Why:

      1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested

      2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.

      3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?

      4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?

      5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law - Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?

      6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

      Alex
      I'm not sure how that could have been any more stereotypical :rolleyes:
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      Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

      6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

      Alex
      99.9% - dope smokers, right? LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
      Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

      Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.

      Here's Why:

      1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested

      2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.

      3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?

      4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?

      5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law - Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?

      6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

      Alex
      1. That's true, Maybe it could be something cool to test

      2. I see people on Youtube making profit off of it being activist. Magazines like High Times Magazine are really making a profit off of it. That is what gave me the idea

      3. Oh yes, I could be proud of promoting something that's been proven to help cancer, seizures etc, Is safer then alcohol, and helps various other sickness and I could be proud of letting people know that it does not cause suicide, homicidal thoughts and Jungle Fever like it was portrayed in the 40s and if there is money to be made, I'm all for it.

      4. Me and 50% of the country and that's true. That is why that stereotype needs to be broken which is another reason why I would like to be a part of the many blogs and youtubers so I could help enlighten people on a plant that's been around for thousands of years

      5. If the Feds shut me down just for talking about Cannabis, That would be infringing on my Freedom Of Speech right?

      6 . Awwh C,mon lol.


      Thank you for the advice sir. It's something to think about, I take everything under consideration
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    • Profile picture of the author OfficerIM
      i would go for it
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
        Originally Posted by OfficerIM View Post

        You really have no idea what you are talking about. You should learn to keep your mouth closed when it comes to topics your uneducated in.
        Last time I checked, this was the Warrior Forum where marketers congregated to throw marketing ideas back and fourth and to learn from the community. No where did I see stated that this was the OfficerIM forum where you were in control of the flow of all thread conversation and we needed to report to you before we posted.

        Since 'your' so educated in cannabis and marijuana laws, rules and regulations, perhaps you can educate me in exactly what I said that was incorrect instead of just jumping into a conversation and throwing rocks when you yourself haven't added anything other that the already noted 'your not educated'.

        Great. Explain to me what I should know, and which parts of my argument about why building an email list of pot heads might be a bad idea.

        Just know that half of the post was in jest, and half were serious questions to the OP, who was the one who asked for opinions on the topic.

        He himself said I gave him some things to think about.
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        • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
          Lots of great ideas and a great discussion on top of that!

          I shall keep on the look out for those cook books because it seems like they are in high demand judging by what I've read.


          Thank you to everyone who helped me and thank you for the great debates also haha. Nothing like a good, heated debate
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          • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
            Originally Posted by OfficerIM View Post

            Aww little baby did i hurt your feelings?
            Thing is, you're brand new here and don't seem to understand basic WF etiquette (or basic social interaction etiquette for that matter).

            Your posts, brilliant as they are, still leave a lot to be desired. You don't come into a thread and tell me to 'shut my mouth'. You don't do that to me, and you don't do that to anyone. It's rude and obnoxious. That is the only thing I take issue with.

            I gave you an opportunity to back up your big mouth with some facts or data or something, but instead of doing that, all you could muster was another childish one-liner.

            Until you have something interesting or useful to add to this thread, it's probably a good idea to go troll somewhere else.

            Might be a good idea to brush up on the rules here as well before you start posting nonsense.
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    • Profile picture of the author DroppedPR
      Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

      Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.

      Here's Why:

      1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested

      2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.

      3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?

      4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?

      5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law - Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?

      6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:

      Alex
      I don't think you could have any less of a clue what you are talking about regarding this market. The guy telling you to shut your mouth was pushing limits,but the point he was making was completely on point. You really haven't got a clue what you're talking about, it's obvious you have a complete disconnect from the target demographic. It's like everything you know about marijuana has been regurgitated from the 6 o'clock news and bad college comedy flicks. There is a huge market for it, people spend tons of money on accessories, books, glass, and other related products. $600 vaporizers and $300-500 glass bongs fly off the shelves like hotcakes. Not every stoner lives off stale pizza and works part time at 7-11 to feed his pot habit. Each and every segment of your bulletpointed list is completely and utterly wrong. No questions, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
      Originally Posted by AlexCN View Post

      Don't build a list in the Cannabis or Medical Marijuana niche right now.
      Why, don't want competition?

      Here's Why:

      1. The niche (as a whole) is completely unproven and untested
      Wrong. There have been active marijuana communities on the net since the early-mid 90's. Further, there is a cat pushing a $37 info product, and it is a full on professional IM sales page, etc. He is probably making bank right now.

      Internet is a big place - just because you don't hang out in every corner doesn't mean there isn't money there.

      2. Is there any money to be made? Most pot heads don't have much of a disposable income (besides what they spend to get high) and/or are living off the state. Most probably also aren't spending a lot of time online 'buying' Cannabis related info products and physical products.
      Umm ... you'd be surprised at the disposable income and professions of some stoners - I know a lot of them. I know PhDs, MSs, lawyers, business owners and yes, a medical doctor, etc., that smoke weed. Again, you are talking about stereotypes and your incorrect perceptions, not facts ...

      3. Is this something mainstream and that you could really be 'proud' of promoting?
      Quite frankly, I don't know how some IMers in the Health/MMO niches sleep at night, let alone 'be proud'. Thanks dad, but considering I actually owned a marijuana dispensary in Colorado for a period of time, pride isn't a problem, on this issue.

      I do, however, question those too scared to make money on something absolutely as ethical, if not more ethical than peddling alcohol (certainly more, because there ARE medicinal benefits to weed, unlike the nasty, physically addictive drug alcohol, that makes people kick their dogs and beat their children, murder, kill people in cars, etc. when they are hopped up on it, unlike weed), because they are afraid of what people might think.

      Grab a spine and a pair and go make some legal and ethical money.

      The hypocracy is laughable. Go ahead and work for a liquor company, and you have a good wholesome job, eh? Work with weed, a less harmful drug, by far, than alcohol, and one must hide their head in shame?

      Perhaps if one is a hypocrite or spineless - but I'm neither.

      4. You may think of Cannabis as something cool and unique and something that makes exceedingly killer clothes and rope, but for the majority of people, when they think of Cannabis as a business, they automatically think of dope dealers selling dime bags on the street corner. Is that what you want for your business?
      So what? They are wrong, in large part. Who the hell cares? Thanks, dad. Again.

      5. It's illegal. No matter what the states say, it's still against Federal Law
      Read the Constitution and realize that the Federal government is in violation of said Constituiton, as they use article 10 - interstate commerce to regulate drugs. Medical marijuana originates and stays in state and is not subject to interstate commerce laws.

      Further, you obviously aren't keeping up with the news and what the Obama Admin and Eric Holder have said about the issue - Follow your states laws and we leave you alone. Those are for the people growing and selling marijuana, not an info product, accessories, etc.

      No, I do not suggest getting involved in selling seeds or advertising for seed banks as they are breaking the law as those seed banks, largely, are in places like the UK, Spain, Amsterdam, etc., where it is legal to sell cannabis seeds. DEA gets pissed when seeds come onto the US, so tread lightly with seeds.

      Making money online in the weed niche is not the scary proposition you are painting it to be.

      Who knows how, when or why the feds could come in and shut you down? What if they decided to do worse to you than shut you down, simply because you were promoting something that is illegal?
      For what? Ya know, I'm going to trust the lawyers at places like Barnes & Nobles, over you, as you don't seem to really know what the hell you are talking about here. Walk into any one of their stores in Colorado, and you can choose from half a dozen books about how to grow weed.

      You really don't know what you are talking about here. There is nothing illegal about selling an info product on how to grow weed. It is protected by the first amendment and multibillion dollar organizations, like Amazon, know this and sell those info products. Go ahead, look on Amazon for books on how to grow weed and then come back here with your Chicken Little routine again.

      6. No matter how much much time and effort you spend trying to build a relationship with them, 99% won't even remember who you are the next time they see your email in their inbox :rolleyes:
      Well, Alex, I am a retired ski bum. I also need 3 surgeries on my spine and have some pretty serious nerve damage in my lower legs, losing feeling and some muscle use. I am in 24 hour/day pain and could eat handfuls, legally, of opiate based (heroin) narcotics that are physically addictive.

      But I don't. because I do not want to become a junkie. So I smoke weed, instead. And quite frankly, your insults about people like me, being idiots, lazy, etc., stems from your ignorance about the subject and the stereotypes you were force fed and believed.

      There is money to be made in this niche. And the niche will continue to grow.

      Someone like me, with 20 years experience cultivating cannabis, well, I'm still deciding whether or not to throw my 150,000+ words onto an authority site and be patient, or to sell those words for at least $5,000 to a real IMer that understands the potential profits in this niche.

      How 'bout the rest of ya that really don't know the first thing about the subjects, weed in general or the very active weed communities on the net, do a little research first, before you shoot from the hip insulting me, and the many other users of cannabis, both medical and recreational, that visit this site, with some hypocritical (ya'll won't touch the much harder drug, alcohol, in your criticisms), incorrect socially conservstive nonsense that came straight out of the religious propaganda film, Reefer Madness, in the 1930's.

      I can give you the contact info of some people. A person, say, with cancer, using weed to help keep them alive, and you can shoot them of an email saying all of the insulting things about us 'dope heads' that you just did here. Up for that? Rnadomly insulting people dying of cancer because they smoke weed and, according to you, are too stupid to remember anything, lazy, poor and ought to be socially ostracized and 'banished from the herd' for using weed?
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      • Profile picture of the author AlexCN
        Hey Christopher-

        You are bringing up arguments in defense of why it's a good idea to build a list of Pot smokers. That is what debates are about - point/counter-point.

        I commend you for taking the time to 'defend' something that you obviously really believe in. I think that is great. The only thing is, with me, you have nothing to defend. I was simply stating why I think it might not be a good idea to build a list of pot smokers - nothing more and nothing less.

        You are trying to turn this into an argument on the 'ethics' of marijuana use - something of which I have never confirmed nor denied - I simply stated fact - which is that pot use is still against Federal Law.

        Now, to the points you bring up, here are my counter-points. After this, I think I am pretty much done in this thread. Some people have made decent arguments as to why they think pot is a booming market, and maybe it is.

        I'm not going to change my mind, however, in thinking that there are better markets to go after and it might be a bad idea to build the foundations of your business around something that is still against the law.

        Here you go:

        1. I don't really care about the competition in this niche. I was simply stating why I don't think it's a good idea to build a list of weed smokers. If you think it's a good idea, by all means, go for it.

        2. I'd be surprised at how many PHD's smoke weed? No, actually, I would not be surprised at all.

        I'm sure plenty do, but are the majority of the guys with money who are pot smokers actively out in the communtiy buying subscriptions to High Times and purchasing Bongs online and getting cookbooks on pot brownies on kindle?

        I'd argue that the guys with the most to lose (like lots of disposable income and a high profile career) are also the ones that would be most likely to hide the fact that they are weed smokers. Additionally, I would say they would be the ones who would be least likely to let everyone in the world know that they were part of the 'Green Party' by buying drug paraphernalia online and signing up to lists that regularly emailed them promoting cannabis.

        In addition, here is a little study (again, not my opinion, but actual fact) that seems to disprove what you seem to be telling me, that weed smokers have a lot of disposable income (again besides the amount that they are spending on the actual product itself).

        There was a study done on "Demographic and Health Characteristics of Heavy Marijuana Smokers in Los Angeles County"

        Here were the findings:

        "The demographic, life-style, and self-reported health characteristics of a convenience sample of 207 male and 70 female non-Hispanic White, heavy marijuana users in Los Angeles County were compared with those of more representative county and national samples. Consistent with other researchers' findings, heavy marijuana users were found to differ significantly in living arrangements, job stability, and income."

        So then, for me to say that most regular pot smokers probably don't have significant disposable incomes besides the ones they are already smoking, I really don't think is that far off base.

        Basically, what I was saying is there are probably better markets to enter that have people willing and able to spend more.

        If you are disagreeing with me, fine. I can accept that. But to call my argument baseless is complete absurdity. Show me your study that says the majority of pot smokers have a median income greater than the norm - or something that backs up your statments that is more than just your opinion.

        If you can do that, I will concede a 'draw' on the point.

        3. I'm not your 'dad' and I was merely asking a question. If his answer is that question was 'YES' he can be proud of actively promoting pot in public, then great, he is entering a market that he can be proud of. That is one of the factors that is liekly to make for a good niche to go into.

        4. 'They are wrong'. Again, just your opinion. I was simply bringing up the perception of a large part of the country. You can argue with it, or call me too 'strict' or whatever you want, but that doesn't change the fact that when you tell people that you are running a cannabis business, the majority will think you are a drug dealer - right or wrong.

        Again, if that is fine with you, go for it.

        5. Whatever makes you sleep better at night.

        6. This was a joke, obviously. Lighten up!




        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        Why, don't want competition?

        Wrong. There have been active marijuana communities on the net since the early-mid 90's. Further, there is a cat pushing a $37 info product, and it is a full on professional IM sales page, etc. He is probably making bank right now.

        Internet is a big place - just because you don't hang out in every corner doesn't mean there isn't money there.

        Umm ... you'd be surprised at the disposable income and professions of some stoners - I know a lot of them. I know PhDs, MSs, lawyers, business owners and yes, a medical doctor, etc., that smoke weed. Again, you are talking about stereotypes and your incorrect perceptions, not facts ...

        Quite frankly, I don't know how some IMers in the Health/MMO niches sleep at night, let alone 'be proud'. Thanks dad, but considering I actually owned a marijuana dispensary in Colorado for a period of time, pride isn't a problem, on this issue.

        I do, however, question those too scared to make money on something absolutely as ethical, if not more ethical than peddling alcohol (certainly more, because there ARE medicinal benefits to weed, unlike the nasty, physically addictive drug alcohol, that makes people kick their dogs and beat their children, murder, kill people in cars, etc. when they are hopped up on it, unlike weed), because they are afraid of what people might think.

        Grab a spine and a pair and go make some legal and ethical money.

        The hypocracy is laughable. Go ahead and work for a liquor company, and you have a good wholesome job, eh? Work with weed, a less harmful drug, by far, than alcohol, and one must hide their head in shame?

        Perhaps if one is a hypocrite or spineless - but I'm neither.

        So what? They are wrong, in large part. Who the hell cares? Thanks, dad. Again.

        Read the Constitution and realize that the Federal government is in violation of said Constituiton, as they use article 10 - interstate commerce to regulate drugs. Medical marijuana originates and stays in state and is not subject to interstate commerce laws.
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      • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
        Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

        Why, don't want competition?

        Wrong. There have been active marijuana communities on the net since the early-mid 90's. Further, there is a cat pushing a $37 info product, and it is a full on professional IM sales page, etc. He is probably making bank right now.

        Internet is a big place - just because you don't hang out in every corner doesn't mean there isn't money there.

        Umm ... you'd be surprised at the disposable income and professions of some stoners - I know a lot of them. I know PhDs, MSs, lawyers, business owners and yes, a medical doctor, etc., that smoke weed. Again, you are talking about stereotypes and your incorrect perceptions, not facts ...

        Quite frankly, I don't know how some IMers in the Health/MMO niches sleep at night, let alone 'be proud'. Thanks dad, but considering I actually owned a marijuana dispensary in Colorado for a period of time, pride isn't a problem, on this issue.

        I do, however, question those too scared to make money on something absolutely as ethical, if not more ethical than peddling alcohol (certainly more, because there ARE medicinal benefits to weed, unlike the nasty, physically addictive drug alcohol, that makes people kick their dogs and beat their children, murder, kill people in cars, etc. when they are hopped up on it, unlike weed), because they are afraid of what people might think.

        Grab a spine and a pair and go make some legal and ethical money.

        The hypocracy is laughable. Go ahead and work for a liquor company, and you have a good wholesome job, eh? Work with weed, a less harmful drug, by far, than alcohol, and one must hide their head in shame?

        Perhaps if one is a hypocrite or spineless - but I'm neither.

        So what? They are wrong, in large part. Who the hell cares? Thanks, dad. Again.

        Read the Constitution and realize that the Federal government is in violation of said Constituiton, as they use article 10 - interstate commerce to regulate drugs. Medical marijuana originates and stays in state and is not subject to interstate commerce laws.

        Further, you obviously aren't keeping up with the news and what the Obama Admin and Eric Holder have said about the issue - Follow your states laws and we leave you alone. Those are for the people growing and selling marijuana, not an info product, accessories, etc.

        No, I do not suggest getting involved in selling seeds or advertising for seed banks as they are breaking the law as those seed banks, largely, are in places like the UK, Spain, Amsterdam, etc., where it is legal to sell cannabis seeds. DEA gets pissed when seeds come onto the US, so tread lightly with seeds.

        Making money online in the weed niche is not the scary proposition you are painting it to be.

        For what? Ya know, I'm going to trust the lawyers at places like Barnes & Nobles, over you, as you don't seem to really know what the hell you are talking about here. Walk into any one of their stores in Colorado, and you can choose from half a dozen books about how to grow weed.

        You really don't know what you are talking about here. There is nothing illegal about selling an info product on how to grow weed. It is protected by the first amendment and multibillion dollar organizations, like Amazon, know this and sell those info products. Go ahead, look on Amazon for books on how to grow weed and then come back here with your Chicken Little routine again.

        Well, Alex, I am a retired ski bum. I also need 3 surgeries on my spine and have some pretty serious nerve damage in my lower legs, losing feeling and some muscle use. I am in 24 hour/day pain and could eat handfuls, legally, of opiate based (heroin) narcotics that are physically addictive.

        But I don't. because I do not want to become a junkie. So I smoke weed, instead. And quite frankly, your insults about people like me, being idiots, lazy, etc., stems from your ignorance about the subject and the stereotypes you were force fed and believed.

        There is money to be made in this niche. And the niche will continue to grow.

        Someone like me, with 20 years experience cultivating cannabis, well, I'm still deciding whether or not to throw my 150,000+ words onto an authority site and be patient, or to sell those words for at least $5,000 to a real IMer that understands the potential profits in this niche.

        How 'bout the rest of ya that really don't know the first thing about the subjects, weed in general or the very active weed communities on the net, do a little research first, before you shoot from the hip insulting me, and the many other users of cannabis, both medical and recreational, that visit this site, with some hypocritical (ya'll won't touch the much harder drug, alcohol, in your criticisms), incorrect socially conservstive nonsense that came straight out of the religious propaganda film, Reefer Madness, in the 1930's.

        I can give you the contact info of some people. A person, say, with cancer, using weed to help keep them alive, and you can shoot them of an email saying all of the insulting things about us 'dope heads' that you just did here. Up for that? Rnadomly insulting people dying of cancer because they smoke weed and, according to you, are too stupid to remember anything, lazy, poor and ought to be socially ostracized and 'banished from the herd' for using weed?
        Oh wow, You've owned a Medical Marijuana dispenser? That's amazing. It would be a dream come true to even do volunteer work in one of those
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  • Profile picture of the author lilc800
    Yup, Only a couple hundreds of millions are spent on Weed each year .. (legal and illegal) I bet there is no market there what so ever. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendon Zahrndt
    I'm so high right now I can't figure out if this thread is the best one I've read in ten years or so full of misinformation that it's really making my head spin.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Don't listen to most of the nonsense in this thread. Spoken by the truly ignorant.

    This is a booming market and has been for a long time. Building a website and talking about Marijuana (NOT the same as Hemp) is not illegal. Major news sites have all kinds of Marijuana related content.

    There are actually many affiliate products but I would recommend one completely legal everywhere: hydroponics equipment and related growing supplies. Half the market for hydro supplies are retired people.

    More and more people will grow their own, just like vegetables or chickens in the back yard. AS more and more states legalize (it's coming faster than you think!) the grow industry will skyrocket.

    The absolute industry giant is: Discount Hydroponics in Riverside Ca. I think their affiliate program is through CJ or Linkshare.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
    I just popped up a quick wp theme on PotGuy.com which I have for sale. The repeat clicks I'm getting is very high - no pun intended. (My stats program reports ip addresses, city stat and country and more) I think it has to do with the 2 videos on the bottom of the page. People are fascinated with Marijuana brownies.

    Think about finding a book or books related to cooking/baking with weed and see if there is an affiliate program for them.
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      Originally Posted by Mo Goulet View Post


      Think about finding a book or books related to cooking/baking with weed and see if there is an affiliate program for them.
      No doubt a cookbook would do great and could be easily outsourced and sold for a few bucks. Sounds like a project for Brad Gosse and Ron Duckett!

      As far as the rest of this thread... some good ideas and a lot of ignorance..."it's illegal! blah blah blah! my d!ck is little!"

      If you have an interest, follow that interest, learn more about it, become an authority on it and monetize it. There are seed banks that have affiliate programs... a ton of stuff.

      The world doesn't need another lame affiliate site on forex from someone that has no idea or interest in the subject. The world needs information from thinking individuals like you OP... friggin go for it
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      • Profile picture of the author Mo Goulet
        If anyone has an idea for a cookbook, let me know and I'll JV and host it with my book wp theme

        See an example of this theme at VegiGarden.com

        Originally Posted by bretski View Post

        No doubt a cookbook would do great and could be easily outsourced and sold for a few bucks.

        The world needs information from thinking individuals like you OP... friggin go for it
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      • Profile picture of the author Coby
        Originally Posted by Brendon Zahrndt View Post

        I'm so high right now I can't figure out if this thread is the best one I've read in ten years or so full of misinformation that it's really making my head spin.
        Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

        Don't listen to most of the nonsense in this thread. Spoken by the truly ignorant.

        This is a booming market and has been for a long time. Building a website and talking about Marijuana (NOT the same as Hemp) is not illegal. Major news sites have all kinds of Marijuana related content.

        There are actually many affiliate products but I would recommend one completely legal everywhere: hydroponics equipment and related growing supplies. Half the market for hydro supplies are retired people.

        More and more people will grow their own, just like vegetables or chickens in the back yard. AS more and more states legalize (it's coming faster than you think!) the grow industry will skyrocket.

        The absolute industry giant is: Discount Hydroponics in Riverside Ca. I think their affiliate program is through CJ or Linkshare.
        Originally Posted by bretski View Post

        No doubt a cookbook would do great and could be easily outsourced and sold for a few bucks. Sounds like a project for Brad Gosse and Ron Duckett!

        As far as the rest of this thread... some good ideas and a lot of ignorance..."it's illegal! blah blah blah! my d!ck is little!"

        If you have an interest, follow that interest, learn more about it, become an authority on it and monetize it. There are seed banks that have affiliate programs... a ton of stuff.

        The world doesn't need another lame affiliate site on forex from someone that has no idea or interest in the subject. The world needs information from thinking individuals like you OP... friggin go for it
        These folks get it!

        Go with what you know and what you are comfortable with. Don't let anyone fill you up with mis-information of make your think your idea is a bad one because they don't agree with it.

        Not all pot smokers are lazy bums. Many celebrities, scientists, politicians, athletes and even gold medal Olympians both use and advocate marijuana.

        There is plenty of room for growth and profit to be made in this niche and you don't have to do anything illegal.

        Good luck.

        Cheers,
        Coby

        P.S. For those throwing around stereotypes - take a step back at look at yourself and take look at the world today... try to see the bigger picture...
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    People are fascinated with Marijuana brownies.
    Food products are so popular that the "legal states" are having to create legislation for testing and certifying food items.

    There are already businesses in the testing area popping up.

    There will be plenty more income potential ongoing for quite some time. A lot of it in areas that are only indirectly connected to the consumption of the plant by individuals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikaedi
    Apart from being illegal in most countries..why on earth would one want to market a product that is self-destructive to young people, especially if they're still at School.
    Each to their own, but utterly crazy! and Colorado will feel the effects of this insidious drug for years to come.

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    • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
      Originally Posted by Mikaedi View Post

      Apart from being illegal in most countries..why on earth would one want to market a product that is self-destructive to young people, especially if they're still at School.
      Each to their own, but utterly crazy! and Colorado will feel the effects of this insidious drug for years to come.

      Mikaedi
      With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. In 20 years it will be legal (at least for medicinal use) in all 50 states.

      Ignorant people said the same thing about penicillin. What an insidious "drug" that is.
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      • Profile picture of the author bretski
        Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

        With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. In 20 years it will be legal (at least for medicinal use) in all 50 states.

        Ignorant people said the same thing about penicillin. What an insidious "drug" that is.
        It's all but been decriminalized in most states and anything less than an oz will get you a slap on the wrist. And for you all that don't know how much an ounce of weed is, you wouldn't be able to walk around with it in your pocket without someone asking you if you're happy to see them.

        Honestly, I see a lot of affiliate marketing potential in the form of books, cookbooks, handbooks, seed sales, bong, pipes, information on the medicinal benefits, etc...

        As far as "OMG! It would be a disgrace to your business!"... there are people out there who have made large sums of money in the internet porn business. While most guys would think "wow, that sounds awesome!"... after a while it all becomes work.

        The point is, the guy has an interest that he's passionate about. Whether it be gaming, porn or weed... he is passionate. Pour that passion into something while it's still there instead of promoting crap that he isn't knowledgeable about. Chances are he will fail if you were to tell him "here... go promote yeast infection cures"... just sayin' I think he's on to something
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    • Profile picture of the author bretski
      Originally Posted by Mikaedi View Post

      ..why on earth would one want to market a product that is self-destructive to young people, especially if they're still at School.


      Mikaedi
      I think you're talking about alcohol
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    • Profile picture of the author bwizard
      Originally Posted by Mikaedi View Post

      Apart from being illegal in most countries..why on earth would one want to market a product that is self-destructive to young people, especially if they're still at School.
      Each to their own, but utterly crazy! and Colorado will feel the effects of this insidious drug for years to come.

      Mikaedi
      do you have any real proof it has ever killed anyone like alcohol or tobacco? how about prescription drugs they kill more people a year than all of the above three. Do some research before you just comment as another sheep in the heard . You have been brainwashed by the news and mainstream media for too many years. There are kids here with their cancer in remission because of it. For example search " hope for Landon".
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikaedi
    @Brent, with all due respect I do know what I am talking about thank you as I work wit young people and have seen the effects of young developing minds whos's Schooling has been effected by this drug..it's all fine with us adults but with young Kids/teens it's n o good at all, and I am apposed to any forms of legalization..even in our own Country the green party platform is the legalization of cannabis.

    @bretsky..Alcohol is just as damaging if not more so..

    That's all I wish to state on this issue as I don't wish to get in a slanging match with anyone as it's against the OPs original thread.

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  • Profile picture of the author xpesos
    I think you should go for Gaming niche, there is really a big potential in this
    First i would suggest have a quick guidebook of cheats or walkthroughs you can also outsource it, use it for list building or some kind of gaming magazine

    Secondly of you make videos of famous gaming series like COD, battlefield, NFS and upload them to youtube, dailymotion, you can get massive exposure doing this

    Especially if you find some glitch in newly released games or some tricky thing

    I remember that someone found an easter egg secret thing in COD black ops and it just went viral like fire

    So if you can make a lot of videos of these games also walkthroughs it can help you a lot
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffery Moss
    In the United States, there is a big push toward legalizing marijuana in many states, even the South. So you would be in a prime position to monetize your niche if you already had a blog/forum or email list about this subject. And, just to show you how popular this is, check out your niche's keywords online in Google search. Lots of people already happily writing about the subject. If this is something you are interested in, then go in that direction. And, don't let negativity or backlash stop you. Now I wouldn't suggest monetizing with Adsense but for sure you could write an ebook and sell it on the site or create other informational products on the subject which would help you make money from the niche. As time goes on, your options for monetizing should open up as more states start the legalization process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Adams
    Originally Posted by PharmaPunk View Post

    I would love to build my list around Cannabis (since it is a natural herb) but I just don't see how I could profit off of it seeing that it's still illegal in most states (mainly in the south where I live). I don't think there are affiliate products i could sell about Cannabis.

    I mean, I'm sure I could profit off of video games. I'm also pretty good a video editing with Sony Vegas, but if there is anyway I could build a list around around Cannabis That would be awesome

    Any ideas? Thank you in advance!
    Just work on the content creation aspect of your list or site for now, especially if you are using the cannabis theme. . And, later after you have established a brisk traffic, sell advertising space directly to sites in a similar niche.Many webmasters in the natural or herbal niche find it difficult to find reliable places to advertise. You'll find many people who want to advertise with you, once your site is considered an authority on Google search.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Marijuana is money.

    Anyone that thinks otherwise needs to reflect.

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  • Profile picture of the author Shaf5280
    Originally Posted by PharmaPunk View Post

    Hello guys!

    I don't know, I'm just going through a spiral right now. Here is the thing, When I ask for business Ideas, People always (rightfully) ask "What do you like to do?", and the thing is, The things that I like to do, I don't think I could profit off of. In my spare time, I like to play video games and study Cannabis. I freakin' love Cannabis; Even though I've never consumed it (yet) I love the science behind it, It's benefits, etc. I could probably tell you what type of Cannabis it is just by looking at the leaves, the length of the leaves so on and so forth.

    I would love to build my list around Cannabis (since it is a natural herb) but I just don't see how I could profit off of it seeing that it's still illegal in most states (mainly in the south where I live). I don't think there are affiliate products i could sell about Cannabis.

    I mean, I'm sure I could profit off of video games. I'm also pretty good a video editing with Sony Vegas, but if there is anyway I could build a list around around Cannabis That would be awesome

    Any ideas? Thank you in advance!
    A lot of good comments here!

    If you are into gaming and 420 and have video editing software you can do a video blog with tips and pointers for that demographic and post up on Youtube. You could start with "The Best MJ for First Person Shooters". Talk a little about the MJ strains that help in the genre and stream some gaming content then talk about gaming strategies for your favorite titles. Drive traffic to sign-up to your list and then promote products they would be interested in on the back-end.
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickX
    I just checkout click bank and you won't believe what I found.

    There are offers on how to pass drug tests

    Detox Your Body, Get Clean and Pass Any Drug Test

    This is no affiliate link of course, but it is seriously an offer that is listed on clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author bwizard
    my site above is a social book marking site like digg any one here wants to submit a link to it back to their sites feel more than welcome
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    • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
      Originally Posted by bwizard View Post

      my site above is a social book marking site like digg any one here wants to submit a link to it back to their sites feel more than welcome
      Oh wow, I did not even realize that . A nice related backlink too. I shall definitely add my blog to your site when it's complete. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author dani0157
    A few things you can sell

    - Various accessories for using cannabis (including some things that will enhance the experience like... projectors, those tiny little laser things that project shapes on the walls with a laser

    - Cannabis seeds and everything else you need to grow weed including lights, soil, timers and ventilation systems

    - Cannabis art in frames and posters (Did you know that there is a Hash Marihuana & Hemp Museum in Amsterdam)

    - Puke bags.... Just joking

    - Clothing
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    • Profile picture of the author PharmaPunk
      Originally Posted by dani0157 View Post

      A few things you can sell

      - Various accessories for using cannabis (including some things that will enhance the experience like... projectors, those tiny little laser things that project shapes on the walls with a laser

      - Cannabis seeds and everything else you need to grow weed including lights, soil, timers and ventilation systems

      - Cannabis art in frames and posters (Did you know that there is a Hash Marihuana & Hemp Museum in Amsterdam)

      - Puke bags.... Just joking

      - Clothing
      Puke Bags lmao! D. Thank you very much. Looking for affiliate programs for each of these now.

      P.S: On my bucket list: Go visit that Hash Museum
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      • Profile picture of the author Shadowflux
        So I'm thinking I shouldn't even bother commenting in a thread so full of arguments but here I go:

        I think cannabis will be an evolving niche which, if fully legalized, will become a truly major market. I think the growth potential is huge. If it gets legalized it will eventually be more commonly accepted by society. That only opens up the market to more people.

        As a niche, cannabis is about more than just smoking weed. It's a very general macro-niche that is made up of several micro-niches. There's people who want to grow, people who want to know the science, people who want medical applications, people who want paraphernalia, and many more.

        Judging completely from a business and marketing standpoint, I think cannabis is a great thing to keep your eyes on. If it becomes fully legal, even just in the US, we will see this market explode to many times its current size and revenue.

        The way it is right now is similar to the way ecigs were a few years ago. It was new, people weren't sure about it, and there was no established trend or market leader. Now we see ecig advertisements everywhere. I personally know more than a few people that use them.

        Getting in now can be a great way to establish yourself before the market takes off. The OP is not even a cannabis user, rather he/she is interested in the more technical, scientific, and medical aspects of marijuana. I think this is a great way to go because the majority of all cannabis related marketing efforts will be focused on consumption in one way or another.

        If you start working now, you'll be able to establish yourself as a an authority in a non-consumption focused cannabis sub-niche. Branded and promoted correctly, this can be a real money maker.

        I'm not affiliated with them in anyway, I hardly know what it is, but I came across THIS which seems to be a cannabis related ad network.

        Personal Note:

        On a personal note, I can't help but laugh at people suddenly adopting a moral superiority about marketing to a cannabis niche. I'm not advocating marijuana us, I'm also not speaking out against it. I just think it's funny that people have no problem promoting the things they do but they suddenly have a problem with cannabis.

        This is the type of social stigmatization that will be eliminated with legalization and will free the cannabis macro-niche to expand to the monster it could potentially become.

        If it becomes legal, I guarantee we will see people changing their tune in regards to marketing cannabis related products, services, and information.

        When the money appears, people's moral stances tend to soften.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZNICK
    I'd build a Facebook page about pot... then monetize it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Marco Moeschter
    Hey PharmaPunk,

    I know one marketer who is already for a long time in this niche. He buil a lot of niche sites for all different kind of cannabis products like bongs. Maybe you going to check him out and get some inspiration out of his site and how he markets this stuff (have a look at the case studies. You can find his blog here:lazyassstoner.com

    Hope this helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author JJPerkins
      Don't know about list building but out of our 2 dozen amazon affiliate sites guess which one niche makes the most profit from a tiny bit of traffic?

      It is a booming and affluent niche, go for it I say
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfe655
        You said it yourself you know all about it so write an ebook!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    As a political/legal issue, MJ looks like it's ready to take off. The majority of the US is now for legalizing MJ and it looks like this trend will continue. If it continues, it will be almost a political death sentence to those opposing legalizing MJ in many states.

    To make a few points that I don't think were made above:

    The Denver Post, one of the most respected newspapers in the USA has launched a blog dedicated to the MJ culture and even have a "pot critic". It really doesn't get any more legit than this:
    http://www.thecannabist.co/

    Soon, Denver will have more legal recreational MJ stores than liquor stores. There's already more medical MJ dispensaries in Denver than Starbucks.

    IMO, more states will soon follow Washington and Colorado with recreational MJ, once they see the revenue created, not to mention the revenue saved in the legal system. In addition, more states (including southern states) are considering medical MJ now that would have never considered legalizing medical MJ just a few short years ago.

    But MJ isn't the only new market. Hemp was also legalized in Colorado. Once a few hurdles are overcome, this will become another growing (no pun intended) industry. There are many benefits that hemp offers, from hemp seeds as a health food, to environmentally friendly building materials and clothes.

    Another related niche market with serious profit potential that I don't think was brought up above is hydroponics. Hydroponics not only appeals to people that want to grow their own MJ, but also to health conscious people that want to grow their own food and control the way the food is grown, and even the prepper/survivalist niche that wants to be self-dependent and off the grid.

    This is a growing niche that will continue to grow and is gaining legitimacy daily.
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  • Profile picture of the author bookerx3
    I am kinda in the same boat as you. I originally started a gaming blog a few years back that got me started in online marketing.

    I just started a marijuana themed site a few weeks ago (specifically targeting vaporizers). I only received about 240 visitors so far from organic sources and have a 10% conversion rate in converting them into subscribers to my list.

    I'm using a free pass to Cannabis Cup Denver as my opt-in bait which has been working pretty well.

    I still have not gotten any sales yet but I did get one click for .06. I also was contacted by KandyPens in regards to doing a review of their product. So although I haven't gotten any sales yet I do get a free vape pen valued at $129.


    When I figure out how to actually extract some sales from my list I will let you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author MoneyKattz
    It's possible I guess.
    I don't know how much you can sell stuff in the cannabis niche.
    (Online anyways)
    But you could probably find some things.

    I would recommend sticking to one or the other and in this case video games.
    However if you put a lot of personality into your copy and get really passionate about it, I'm sure it could work still, but generally in brand positioning it is better to go deeper not wider.

    I know with the video game niche there are a few clickbank products that you can sell. Like one that was very popular was a product that taught you how to get a job as a video game tester.

    There are occasionally some video games you that you can sell as an affiliate and make residual commissions on.

    Also you can probably sneak in a Netflicks affiliate promo and some of Clickbanks other entertainment affiliate products.

    But I'm leaving the best part for last you could also join CPA affiliate networks like Peerfly, Maxbounty and many others and make money off of just telling people about new video games and get them to sign up for them, you don't even need to get them to pull out their wallets.

    But with CPA networks it can be a little tough applying for them, you would almost want to treat it like a job interview, make sure they would know that you'll be using paid traffic methods directed at your landing page and that you don't EVER spam, for starters.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
    so does atone have a cannabis list then?

    this tee could use some traffic: Let Cannabis Be Thy Medicine : Mullaway | Teespring



    the profits are going to help a healer in Australia stay out of jail...
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  • Profile picture of the author WayneYork
    Brad Gosse has a bestselling book called the Chronic Marketer Chronic Marketer he got that bestseller by targeting weed smokers on Facebook. Brad smokes weed, is very successful and proves that there are successful marketers that use weed.
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      Originally Posted by WayneYork View Post

      Brad Gosse has a bestselling book called the Chronic Marketer Chronic Marketer he got that bestseller by targeting weed smokers on Facebook. Brad smokes weed, is very successful and proves that there are successful marketers that use weed.
      that's a sweet sales page... might have to buy his product after checking that out... slick

      just to continue on your tangent, you might like this list of people then: Famous Trippers « Reset.me Reset.me

      (i'm sure there's more... although a good place to start)
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